$100 MILLION to Destroy The Tea Party

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October 2, 2015

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce will literally double down in its efforts to crush the Tea Party to get legislation–like a comprehensive amnesty bill and the reauthorization of the Export-Import Bank–that it covets.

After budgeting $50 million to elect establishment-friendly candidates in the 2014 election cycle, the chamber will reportedly spend as much as $100 million in the 2016 election cycle to crush conservatives. According to a Roll Call report, some of the group’s “top targets in 2016 will be right-wing, tea party candidates” who have opposed amnesty for illegal immigrants, Obamatrade, and reauthorizing the Export-Import Bank.

The Chamber of Commerce’s ultimate goal is to reportedly win back “the soul of the Republican Party” by electing more establishment Republicans “in contested primaries to strengthen their hand during policy debates on the Hill.”

  • Robert Wilson

    Go buy a GLOCK, use on head, this will put your policies out of misery.

  • soljerblue

    If the Tea Party knows anything, it knows its worst enemy isn’t the Gimmiecrats, but the elitist Republicans who think the party is all about them and original principles-be-damned. Until these people are shown their money cannot shut us up or close us down, there will be no peace.

  • Jacquelyn Aspito

    Chamber should not be able to make any contributions dur to conflict of interests n same for the legal system. This should not be allowedat all

  • The Redhawk

    What Obama’s IRS was Unable to DO, this Moron from the USCOC is willing to do for him .and SPECIAL INTEREST FREAKS….How about the GOP taking a few Million Dollars to Eradicate the Progressive fascist Liberal Brown Shirts???? BTW Trump has the CASH to DO IT … But will he????

  • ThreeQuarterTon

    Oh I almost forgot. Go to the democratic website and read the party “planks”
    Then go to the communist party website (cpusa) and compare !
    Nearly word for word the last time I visited .

  • ThreeQuarterTon

    Ignore the ignorant…. Liberals/ democrats/ communists cannot THINK. They can only repeat the PARTY LINE!

  • albertbryson

    Well, we need to exposed the United States Chamber of Commerce as anti American people. We need to put out of business all businesses that are members of this Anti-American people group and the people’s freedom.

  • Dennis B Anderson

    I beleive a march on Washington with an ordinary dull kitchen knife would do wonders for this country. TURN THEM ALL INTO UNIKS. They can make bandages out of the new rainbow flags. Its time because nothing is going to change but dialogue.

  • Pam

    Any candidate who is supported by the Chamber of Commerce or the “Business Round Table” will not get our votes.
    Buzz words like “Free Trade”, “Equal Opportunity”, “Immigration Reform”, “H1-B”, etc. are nothing but “newspeak” for denying jobs to citizens.
    When you hear the big shots complaining that they NEED to import people for tech jobs because our people don’t have the talent, what they are actually saying is “I don’t want to pay a qualified citizen $50k or more a year when I can bring in ANYONE FROM A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY and only have to pay them $25k”.

  • reagangs

    WOW!!!! First the IRS and now the CC (all unelected bureaucrats), all of the demowits in congress and the WH and most of the RINOs. For a second rate organization, they are drawing a lot of ire from the libertards. I would wager that old Georgie Soros and his minions, drones and sheeple from the UN and EU elites are behind this with threats, bribes and money. Obummers “legacy” is cratering as time goes buy and the wheels are coming off: ObummerCare has failed in a dozen states and many more are on the way to failure, his policies are facing massive opposition and Putin is not cooperating. Fate is a bitch when one is a commie. From a Tea Party member, Fort Worth, TX.

    • podunk1

      God bless & hang in there for the cause.

  • Rx7pj

    So what the Koch brother are spending 900 million to win the election. Or as you ;put it to “destroy the democrats”

    • jyrine

      Prove it TROLL

  • jyrine

    How can they “destroy” a concept?

    • Rx7pj

      Thats just right winged lies, get used to it you’ll see a LOT of them in the coming months.

      • jyrine

        TROLL

      • john jones

        I now Hillary and Obama has never lied. his highness is the one that invented lies. you can keep your insurance. what a laugh this president you have voted for has become.

        • bobnstuff

          I am so tired of you folks using the same lie, cant you come up with one from this year?

  • teaman

    From someone who has been around for a long time, allow me to clue you in. The Chamber of Commerce, any Chamber of Commerce, is not to be trusted for they now and always have only one interest at heart……THEMSELVES. If you don’t believe, then you had best get off you psychobabble drugs before it is to late!

  • mark

    BIG MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Gnowark

    R.Paul, D.Trump, T. Cruz, R. Santorum, et al., ALL say they believe in Tea Party Principles (Const. Limited Gov’t, (Gov’t out of forced-Health)), Sovereignty (Free Trade or Equal, Even Trade policies under OUR government, not the UN) and Fiscal Responsibility. We couldn’t go wrong with any of them.

  • Debbie

    What is it with people acting like mad dogs, The government has been given so much power, This is what the Founding Fathers were afraid would happen and it has.

    • jyrine

      It was always there for the taking, but our system counted on HONORABLE people keeping it on the up and up.

      • Pam

        Exactly, that is why the lib/progs (commies) are so determined to take religion out of our lives. Judeo-Christian beliefs give people a moral compass and teach right from wrong. They prefer the psychologist tripe “If it feels good, do it”, and we are all “victims” not responsible for our own actions. BS

        I think it was Franklin who said, gentlemen, I give you your republic, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT. And another of our founding fathers (or maybe it was Tocqueville) warned that once the people realized they could vote themselves “goodies” from the public treasury our system would be doomed.

        It all goes back to HONOR.

        • MeWynne

          Pam : “psychologist tripe” – that doesn’t sound like an American phrase?? No, that’s not a criticism; I’m wondering where you got that phrase from.

          • Pam

            It came straight off the top of my head. My great-grandpaw always said that if anybody asks what we are, we should tell them that we are about as American as you can get. My daughter is the “genealogist” of the family. She claims that she can track my side of the family back to the Brewster that came off the Mayflower. I don’t know for sure that is correct, I only know that no one in my family can remember any of our ancestors talking about coming from anywhere other than Virginia, Tennessee and Kentucky.

          • podunk1

            God bless – A real American lives… very refreshing in an upside-down land of liars and connivers doing everything they can to sink America. Thanks!

        • Bingolady

          When we allowed dishonorable congressmen to enact lavish benefits for themselves and we kept re-electing them, we have to take some responsibility for the mess that’s going on. Obama just took advantage even further. As voters, we must encourage and educate the public with correct messaging about what’s good for our country.

  • JoeGoldner

    This is what the Washington cartel is all about. Cronyism , always having their hand out , when exposed they fight to get rid of all those that want to expose them and this their method . We have a fighter already fighting against the Washington cartel, his name is Ted Cruz. We need this fighter as the next President of the United States. Fight the establishment, fight the Washington Cartel, support Ted Cruz for president. http://www.tedcruz.org

    • podunk1

      All needs saying is AMEN & pray God will make it happen.

    • bobnstuff

      Ted has never had a job out side of the government and is married to Wall St. How much more establishment can you get?

  • Elizabeth

    This is exactly what Trump is running against, and what the U.S. People are so furious about. Chambers of Commerce should stick to making our local communities strong ! Stay out of international affairs. Vote for Trump, he will Make America Great Again.

    • Gnowark

      “Making our local communities strong” means abiding our Constitution, NOT Chamber of Commerce trying to destroy the biggest group that supports, instead of abuses, the Constitution. ‘Tis a pity they don’t listen to their constituents/members better, instead of trying to tell their constituents/members how they should think. [they (CofC) don’t feel NAFTA caused any job losses in US, according to their website https://www.uschamber.com/above-the-fold/nafta-myths-and-realities%5D.
      Why is it only Trump who can start a conversation about what we, the people, actually want, instead of being force-fed government BS?

      • bobnstuff

        Instead we are feed Trump BS. If you believe what is good for business and the economy is good for the country then you should support the C of C. The republican party was the party of business not the party of the Christian right. You don’t need to worry though the Koch Brothers plan to buy the election and they are spending 10 times as much. We have the best government money can buy.

        • podunk1

          The “Chamber” is actively engaged in “RICO” conspiracies of fraud, bribery; violations of endless immigration, tax, regulation, and employment laws; as well as Constitutional contempt and pillage of US strategic infrastructure! Beholders can’t prosecute without being prosecuted… but citizens and patriots can!

          August’s $18+ trillion debt with 38,064,000 “fulltime 40/hr. joblessness” isn’t generating $2.6 trillion productive citizen BLS average wages with employer taxes annually, because RINOS and US government moved US “strategic” productive infrastructure (wealth, assets, technology and rights) to communist China to use unrestricted tax free slave labor, while simultaneously flooding the US workforce with perhaps 40 million aliens, of which perhaps 11 (to 20) million are government subsidized lawless criminal tax/regulation free invaders sucking at least $402 billion welfare and infrastructure costs, throwing citizens into comparable jobless welfare costing another $402, plus another $300+ billion tax revenue lost to criminal tax/regulation evading employment… another $1 trillion treasury loss per 10 million “illegals!!

          Our lawless corrupted government coordinates monopolist RINO/Maoist democrat objectives to control supply, demand, resources, and freedom… all at the will of global monopolists who finance US ELECTIONS! Ironically, tangible wealth and productive capability spoils are in sovereign Communist China, leaving RINOS, democrats, and globalists who sacked America facing US capital treason charges or China’s mortal wrath for capitalists and betrayers. The USA can either rebuild and produce more than consumption or writhe in Chinese captivity.

          NOTE,,, BLS Reconciliation: (BLS-A1) 8,029,000 BLS collecting unemployment comp and (BLS-A16) 5,932,000 “wanting” jobs plus 20,120,000 part-time jobless (149,036,000 employed * (1-34.6hr./40hr.) gets the numbers to 34,081,000 (20.4%!), and the 3,983,000 remainder of the 38,064,000 (22.80%) total is easily reconciled to workforce manipulation vs. 12yr. 1997to2008 workforce averages where more are reaching retirement age… to find ZERO percent interest on secure funds, lost savings, runaway inflation, Walmart employment, and a work till death or starve legacy!

          • bobnstuff

            You really need to start reading things other then the far right stuff you believe. Most of what you just said is not fact based. Try adding up the numbers you listed and see if they total. Then do some reading on why our illegal population has gone down. After you are done with that look and see what the facts are on welfare spending and who gets it. Now look and see what is going on with trade with China and how the new trade agreement will change things. Now that being said, The two points I made are Trump is feeding you BS and that the republican party was the party of business and that the C of C is the leading business group in the country.

          • john jones

            bob: are you on welfare? usually when some one mentions this subject they are trying to protect their territory. right now your biggest problem is staying out of a war with Russia your man is about to start.

          • bobnstuff

            I’m a retired Business man, I understand how business work. I built four companies myself and helped a number of others get started. Russia is not the problem, they can’t afford a war. Their economy is dependent on oil exports which is hurting them. They are using the US as an excuse to their people for the fact that the country is broke. The real war going on right now is an economic one and believe it or not we are winning. China just sold off it’s Gold. Both Russia a China are pushing the Iran deal because Iran owes them money and they need it.

          • john jones

            I retired after 53 years of working. I think that any person that works that long can’t be too smart. but I did own my catering business for 25 of those years and that is tough business. as far as china and Russia is concerned i’m not too concerned but I would rather focus on what this nation is spending and the amount of debt we are piling up. this is a big reason I refuse to support democrats their main platform for being elected is to offer every thing free for a vote. republicans have their faults to as they seem to favor the rich but in the last 7 years of this president he has made more millionaires than any president in modern history. I just see by no interest rate return for low income investors where he is helping the elderly and poor.

          • john jones

            I retired after 53 years of working. I think that any person that works that long can’t be too smart. but I did own my catering business for 25 of those years and that is tough business. as far as china and Russia is concerned i’m not too concerned but I would rather focus on what this nation is spending and the amount of debt we are piling up. this is a big reason I refuse to support democrats their main platform for being elected is to offer every thing free for a vote. republicans have their faults to as they seem to favor the rich but in the last 7 years of this president he has made more millionaires than any president in modern history. I just see by no interest rate return for low income investors where he is helping the elderly and poor.

          • bobnstuff

            If you want to cut sending in any meaningful way it has to come out of defense spending. That’s the biggest part of the controllable expenses. That the food cost in catering terms. Welfare is the cost of the napkins. Cut welfare out 100% and you don’t get the savings a 10% cut in the defense budget gets you. You don’t have to tell me about the catering business being tough, 15 years in food service myself my wife had 35 years in it. keeping the Prime low is tricky at best, It’s the head of the Fed that controls it. If you keep it low you control inflation but hurt savers but help business’s. If you raise it interest on savings go up but so does inflation which make that interest mean nothing. No mater how you do it lose.

          • john jones

            bob: I loved jimmy carter and that 17% return and guess what when I made that money I saved it instead of buying new cars and taking vacations.

          • john jones

            bob: I loved jimmy carter and that 17% return and guess what when I made that money I saved it instead of buying new cars and taking vacations.

          • bobnstuff

            Inflation was our friend. 5% and 6% inflation then vs. 2% now. Prime interest of 7% to 8% made getting money for my business expensive. Back then I was adding a new store every two years or so.

          • john jones

            primarily this is the problem we have had for the last 7 years under this president. he talks wage unequality and rightfully should do so since I would like to see the wage law raised to 20.00 dollars per hour. this money comes from the rich that owns big business and a smaller wage for smaller business owner so he can stay competitive say like 9.50 per hour. as it is structured now with low rates and no return for small investors that are older and seek about a 5% interest rate so they can survive on their investments. meanwhile the rich borrow money for practically nothing and so you have the rich getting richer and the poor which Obama preaches about gets poorer.

          • john jones

            primarily this is the problem we have had for the last 7 years under this president. he talks wage unequality and rightfully should do so since I would like to see the wage law raised to 20.00 dollars per hour. this money comes from the rich that owns big business and a smaller wage for smaller business owner so he can stay competitive say like 9.50 per hour. as it is structured now with low rates and no return for small investors that are older and seek about a 5% interest rate so they can survive on their investments. meanwhile the rich borrow money for practically nothing and so you have the rich getting richer and the poor which Obama preaches about gets poorer.

          • john jones

            primarily this is the problem we have had for the last 7 years under this president. he talks wage unequality and rightfully should do so since I would like to see the wage law raised to 20.00 dollars per hour. this money comes from the rich that owns big business and a smaller wage for smaller business owner so he can stay competitive say like 9.50 per hour. as it is structured now with low rates and no return for small investors that are older and seek about a 5% interest rate so they can survive on their investments. meanwhile the rich borrow money for practically nothing and so you have the rich getting richer and the poor which Obama preaches about gets poorer.

          • john jones

            primarily this is the problem we have had for the last 7 years under this president. he talks wage unequality and rightfully should do so since I would like to see the wage law raised to 20.00 dollars per hour. this money comes from the rich that owns big business and a smaller wage for smaller business owner so he can stay competitive say like 9.50 per hour. as it is structured now with low rates and no return for small investors that are older and seek about a 5% interest rate so they can survive on their investments. meanwhile the rich borrow money for practically nothing and so you have the rich getting richer and the poor which Obama preaches about gets poorer.

          • bobnstuff

            The Fed likes a 2% inflation rate but if wages don’t go up and we don’t get return on our savings even that will put us in a worse hole then we are in now. Raising minimum wage to even $15 per hour would be a improvement. The lie that is told about this is based on the idea that if you raise wages by 30% prices will go up 30%. In retail labor should run around 10% of the gross a 30% wage increase is only a 3% cost increase. In food service it would go up 8% so your big Mac meal will go up 40 cents. The real problem is the 0% prime and the banks not getting it to the business’s that it was meant to go to, instead the use the Fed’s money to buy government bonds. This makes the banks rich but does nothing for the economy.

          • john jones

            not to mention the 0.05 return on savings the bank gives you. the way to solve this countries problems and equalize the playing field is a flat tax on every dollar made by every working American. i’m not to opposed to having some sort of tax on big business churches that I feel like doesn’t take the money and do what it was intended to. also to help solve social security I see nothing wrong with unlimited tax base on all money earned to support that program that is sorely needed to help the unprivileged and poor. this is a better plan than arguing about blacks,gays and illegals trying to secure a vote and stay in office where politicians get richer.

          • john jones

            not to mention the 0.05 return on savings the bank gives you. the way to solve this countries problems and equalize the playing field is a flat tax on every dollar made by every working American. i’m not to opposed to having some sort of tax on big business churches that I feel like doesn’t take the money and do what it was intended to. also to help solve social security I see nothing wrong with unlimited tax base on all money earned to support that program that is sorely needed to help the unprivileged and poor. this is a better plan than arguing about blacks,gays and illegals trying to secure a vote and stay in office where politicians get richer.

          • podunk1

            bobble should be more worried about what happens when engaged in insurrection, rebellion, looting, and selling the country out to Communist China

          • bobnstuff

            Have you ever want to know why we have trade agreements? Do you have a least bit of interest in just what is being agreed to. Try reading the bills for yourself instead of taking peoples word for things. Trade is a good thing, these agreements open up markets for our goods. Our companies sell things to these countries. The reason GM kept Buick was because it sells well in China. We export a lot from our country and these agreement help increase those sales.

          • podunk1

            You obviously can’t read the made in labels on everything you and I buy, or the fact that the 75% imported content of GM cars is what makes it work. Without Chinese steel and components there would be no car to drive customers to your wife’s restaurant!

            If workers had full-time jobs they could eat a decent meal at your restaurant instead macaroni & cheese with water!

          • bobnstuff

            Have you ever checked the BLS for the number of full time to part time jobs, it hasn’t changed much in years. .http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

          • podunk1

            I gave you the Aug., 2015 numbers 34.6 vs 40!!

            I don’t believe them because they are easily manipulated and further don’t reconcile to widespread claims of shorter work weeks due to Obamacare, etc, If it was 2 hours less (5% of 40) joblessness would be almost 7,5 million more. Don’t even need to play with their data… their numbers are mindboggling enough!

            Dig in this stuff & understand it… you might be able to help save our country!!!

          • bobnstuff

            I work for one of the largest retailers in the world, I started working for them after my last management job and wanted something fun with out being a manager. I was to young to just retire. After seven years I decided it was time to take it easier and wanted to go part time. It took four months of going to HR every week to get them to cut my hours and they still aren’t happy. When I started most people were hired as part timers and you could wait for years to get full time. Now they are hiring more full timers then part timers and keeping as many of the seasonal hires as will stay. Our HR is having a hard time filling the openings and have raised the starting wage twice. Go look at the BLS numbers again and you will see that the part time not by choice numbers are going down. Before the ACA most heath insurance was through companies, as it has been since WW II. Most people had some kind of health care coverage. The ACA was passed in part to cover those that had no coverage but the big gain was in improving the coverage of those that had insurance and to slow the rising costs. Since the government is the largest customer for health care the saving more the offset the cost. If the ACA is repealed the national debt goes up not down.

          • podunk1

            A Maoist mole in Walmart… selling hammers & sickles!!! Check the fish freezer & see if you can find any salmon that isn’t caught in US waters and processed in China. China recently bought some pork processors that will appear as “Chinese made American pig sausage”. Ask the C/C what happened to the people who owned and worked in the endless vacant and useless individually owned businesses in everywhere USA.
            Goodnews is… RINOS and Maoist democrats are on the run & they have no place left to hide.

          • bobnstuff

            I read labels and never by food from China, not even dog food. Walmart has said they will increase the American made product by 10% this year. I have American made sox that I bought in Walmart, it turns out that there are 14 companies make sox in the US.. At Home Depot over 50% of what they sell is made in the US. Almost everything made by Rubbermaid is US. All the sheds they sell are American made and all their riding mowers are also. The number of US products are rising. The national Chambers can be a little flaky but I have worked with my local Chamber a number of times. As far as salmon goes the stuff in my kitchen is from Seattle.

          • podunk1

            You’re not the idiot you pretend to be… you’re a traitor, undermining the USA! You know BLS is the Bureau of Labor statistics, under direct RINO/Maoist progressive control; but forget a few honest people still work for government! Based on your writing skill, we minimally know you have enough middle school math skills to understand the BLS reconciliation provided, including the fact that the BLS $25.01 with 52 weeks @ 40 hours including a rounded 30% employer paid fringe/taxes is an average annual employer/employee $67,627 productivity cost, which by definition applied to 38,064,000 jobs needed to full-time employ less than 2/3 of the workforce is $2.574 TRILLION lost annually! Triple that, as in treble damages, is $7.7 trillion annually… more than enough to put these monopolists and communists in jail with Bernie Madoff and recover of all their US assets!
            Likewise the 11 million $402 illegal alien cost number source was a 2012 amnesty profitability tout of $35 billion savings based on labor “cost savings” of $437 billion vs. the $402 billion welfare, infrastructure, education, incarceration, etc. Like all things progressive, they didn’t disclose citizens thrown out of jobs, or the fact that underground criminal employee/employers don’t pay taxes, fringes, or regulatory expenses, which averages 55% of reported wages (25% employee-30% employer)! Those who criminally report minimum wages under false SSI numbers further qualify “illegals” for “more” government tax refund/subsistence benefits.

          • bobnstuff

            It’s 12.5% fringe/taxes, Most of your numbers are wrong or taken out of context. Right now there are jobs going unfilled, talk to any HR person and they will tell you that good help is hard to find. You blame the President for all the problems with employment as well as the Democrats, Where is the Republicans in all this. Where are the great jobs bills and other legislation to save the country. The laws that are on the books in almost all cases have been there for a long time. Have the republicans put forward bills to close the borders. If you want to blame things on this present government, you have to blame the whole government including the congress, since they are the ones passing law and sending the money.not just the democrats. The President can’t spend a dime with out congress. Congress can’t pass a single bill with out the republicans letting them. It’s been that way since 2010.

          • podunk1

            Bobsnuff really will say anything to deceive and rip off America! If you looked up tax/fringes you know the composite average is right at 30%, & if you ever ran a real company you know it! It’s zero if you’re the Chicago Mafia employing illegal aliens & criminals. You’re not just a treasonous troll, you’re regurgitating the C&C smoke screen, praying you’ll destroy America!
            The issue is a progressive president, SCOTUS, and RINO/Maoist progressive congressional majority criminally colluding to spend anything they want without a true budget or any checks, balances, or restraint. People routinely go to jail for far less offenses in the private, local and state sectors where laws are enforced! That includes lawless free reign to desecrate and destroy anything representing US history, values, or wealth!
            PS… the BLS numbers are correct and the illustrated calculations are easily verified, including productive wealth being OBSTRUCTED, destroyed, and caused by the problem” noted.

            end of conversation

          • bobnstuff

            I have owned a number of companies and know that the big companies costs end up at 12%. The game that is played with the insurance is the rip off. Most large companies are self insured. They set it up so the employees pay 100% of the medical. They play games with Workman’s Comp to. All they really pay is the SS and FICA. If you trust the BLS then you must trust the government. As far as your math try doing it yourself instead of copying it. All moneys spent are approved by the congress. Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t change that fact. As far as checks and balances go find a 8th grade US government book and read it. As far as welt being obstructed explain al the new millionaire. Get a clue. We have a do nothing government which means little has changed over the last few years.

          • podunk1

            You are an incredible accident waiting for it to happen. You have no real clue regarding accounting, criminal & personal liability, and legal aspects of employment, especially wage tax & fringes. Whether you buy insurance or self-insure, the cost remains and criminal plus personal liability is a reality if you don’t have the cash to pay when any “accident” happens. When government agents solve problems with padlocks and seized bank accounts and property when people violate laws real bad things happen.
            You obviously have no clue how to verify my math; or the BLS data; nor the sources of the BLS data, nor how easy it is to data mine and audit financial and other data with today’s average computer. Don’t condemn my programs and process unless you wade through it with knowledge and find an error, which would be constructively appreciated.

            Bottom line the issue is sacking and endangering the USA by moving the “strategic” manufacturing and productive infrastructure to Communist China over the past 25 years… historically a highest possible act of treason against the USA. Similarly, sacking the treasury to overwhelm the national workforce supply with aliens to artificially depress US wages destroys free market supply and demand, citizen wealth, and tax revenue by definition… another act to destroy the USA. Combined they are the most serious capital treason crimes in our history. If turned around it will be by patriots who will prosecute. If not, the US will be subservient to China, where the communist rule requires executing monopolists, followed by starving non-followers in the next winter… history repeats!

          • bobnstuff

            I’m sorry I guess 35 years of running business and teaching business class’s on a collage level hasn’t given me any background. My math skills are fine and I use the BLS site very well. I guess you haven’t been watching the news out of China and what is happening to their economy. I don’t think you have seen the effect the dock workers strike on the west coast had on China and what business’s are doing as a result of it. Made in the USA is become the new goal for buyers. At least made in North America. Go take a walk in any major retailer and start looking for where things are made, you might be surprised. I’m not sure you understand what free trade is.

        • MeWynne

          Excuse me, but if the Koch Brothers have the ability to buy the election, how come they didn’t buy the last one and get rid of Obama – America’s worst enemy!

          • bobnstuff

            In that case why is the C of C’s money anything to worry about. The Koch Bro. tried in 2012 but even all their money couldn’t get Romney elected.

          • MeWynne

            Then your initial comment about them buying the 2016 election doesn’t make sense. If “all their money” couldn’t get Romney elected, then how so they “plan to buy the election” ? And BTW: it’s the Dems who bought the election as there wasn’t anything done to stop people voting twice. It’s the Dems who don’t want checks that people who are voting are actually Citizens. – “Racist”? Discrimination? It’s so sad that Americans fall for that crap. Of course one should be an American Citizen to vote. As an immigrant who became a Citizen in order to be able to vote, the only conclusion I, and others in the same situation, can come to is that those who are against proving Citizenship don’t want an honest, or honorable, system. And the only reason for that can be that you, and others like you, know that the system isn’t honest and is an advantage to dishonest people.

          • bobnstuff

            First your statement about voter fraud proves you know nothing about who runs elections or how they are run. It’s not the Democrats or Republicans job but the local election board that runs thing with members of both parties standing over them. In person voter fraud is very rare. If you don’t believe me become a poll watcher. These stories of bus loads of illegal immigrants voting are just stories with no facts. In Pa you must sign your name to vote and it must match the one on your card. A republican, a democrat and the poll worker check each one. Next time you vote pay attention. Buying an election isn’t like buying a car and last time they made a mistake in Ohio, they though they had bought it but missed t by a few points.

          • john jones

            bob: explain how they discovered dead people names on voting cards in the last election for muslim of the year.

          • bobnstuff

            The border of elections are not sent death notices. Here’s question for you, what proof was given that it happened? Cases of voter fraud in person is very rare.

          • john jones

            easy to answer: what proof do you have that Obama has never lied.

          • john jones

            easy to answer: what proof do you have that Obama has never lied.

          • bobnstuff

            Have I ever said he hasn’t lied? The difference is I know how much and when he has lied unlike many uninformed folks here. http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/

          • john jones

            it’s easy to know when Obama lies it is when his lips start moving.

          • bobnstuff

            Nice joke but there are some facts here. Much of what he says is the truth or mostly true but what good is the truth when the government is locked in grid lock.

          • john jones

            no argument on that statement. both parties are guilty. the big question is why would a brain surgeon with his millions want the headache of being president of a divided nation and hiilary with her millions and approaching 70 years old seeking the once admired post in this country but no more.

          • john jones

            no argument on that statement. both parties are guilty. the big question is why would a brain surgeon with his millions want the headache of being president of a divided nation and hiilary with her millions and approaching 70 years old seeking the once admired post in this country but no more.

          • bobnstuff

            What person in their right mind would want that the job? There are only two running that seem sane, Malloy and Kasick. and neither one stands a chance.

          • john jones

            we finally found common ground and total agreement. buzz you tomorrow have to get ready for work at part time job. remember I said if any person had to work 56 years as I have they can’t be too smart.

          • john jones

            we finally found common ground and total agreement. buzz you tomorrow have to get ready for work at part time job. remember I said if any person had to work 56 years as I have they can’t be too smart.

          • bobnstuff

            Work is a reward not a punishment. I don’t have to work anymore but I do because I enjoy it. Have a great day.

          • john jones

            work is a blessing too bad we don’t have more people in this country that feels that way. instead of sending welfare checks out to a lot of people that don’t deserve it why not take that money and build high rises for them to live in and monitor them daily.

          • bobnstuff

            They built the high rises in Pittsburgh and now they just finished tearing them down, thank goodness. Bad idea. Most people that get welfare have jobs or are mothers with young children. In the 90’s the rules were changed and an able bodied person is limited on how long they can collect. The lack of work ethic is partly our fault. We went away and worked out of our kids sight. We tried to make things easy for them and they never learned that work was good. I say we but my kids came and worked with me as soon as they were old enough. I don’t think any of them will be rich but they enjoy life and are working jobs that they love. Now I have my oldest grandson to teach, I don’t own a business anymore but I’m teaching him how to build things, he’s ten right now but by the time he’s out of high school he will be able to build a house.

          • john jones

            bob: you hit on a part of the problem. we are spending unlimited hours trying to solve gun problems when in essence very little is being done to control women that continue to have babies and don’t know who the daddy is. in time I think you will see a woman that has a baby out of wedlock and can’t or won’t identify the father will be fixed to have only that one child. we need a penalty for people that have a total disregard for any common sense.

          • john jones

            bob: you hit on a part of the problem. we are spending unlimited hours trying to solve gun problems when in essence very little is being done to control women that continue to have babies and don’t know who the daddy is. in time I think you will see a woman that has a baby out of wedlock and can’t or won’t identify the father will be fixed to have only that one child. we need a penalty for people that have a total disregard for any common sense.

          • bobnstuff

            Sex and common sense. Not something that links together very well. It doesn’t make any difference if they know who the father is if the fathers don’t do the stand up thing. You will never get women fixed, the Christian right would have a bird. They don’t even want the pill to be paid for by the government. The answer is sex education and birth control made easy to get. One of the things Planned Parenthood is very good at is birth control education. Planning you family is their goal. Where good sex education is present unwanted pregnancy rate drops as does abortions. Humans are hardwired for sex, it in the DNA. Birth control is the only way to stop abortions and unwanted children.

          • john jones

            bob: the problem with that scenario is the general consensus of I might say low class and uneducated person that don’t want education is mostly the ones that fall in the category of having children with the thinking of receiving something for free. the problem in this nation is not the ability to go to school but the failure of just not wanting to go and be an educated responsible citizen. education breeds responsibility and that is just something some people don’t or will not accept. creating jobs for the hard core illetrates is one option but there again they had rather not work and most of this failure falls on the political party of the giveaways and we both know who that party is. free college for every American by Bernie sanders is the best example you can find. sure wish I had that option maybe I wouldn’t have had to work for 56 years but then again this country would be in bankruptcy.

          • john jones

            bob: the problem with that scenario is the general consensus of I might say low class and uneducated person that don’t want education is mostly the ones that fall in the category of having children with the thinking of receiving something for free. the problem in this nation is not the ability to go to school but the failure of just not wanting to go and be an educated responsible citizen. education breeds responsibility and that is just something some people don’t or will not accept. creating jobs for the hard core illetrates is one option but there again they had rather not work and most of this failure falls on the political party of the giveaways and we both know who that party is. free college for every American by Bernie sanders is the best example you can find. sure wish I had that option maybe I wouldn’t have had to work for 56 years but then again this country would be in bankruptcy.

          • bobnstuff

            Women have babies because they had sex. Once pregnant they must decide to keep it or get rid of it. Babies are cut and some women believe that it’s a way to be loved. Most don’t even think of the money till they are in trouble and need help. They think the baby daddy will step up and do the right thing, They are in love. Sometimes it works out but to often if doesn’t and baby daddy is off getting some other girl pregnant. After one or two kids the girls start to figure out that they don’t want any more kids and go looking for help. Planned parenthood is there. I areas with good sex ed in the schools and easily available birth control you can reduce the number of un planed pregnancies. The did a program in Denver I think that did just that and reduced the number of teen and unplanned pregnancies. The funding ran out and the local government didn’t step up so things are going back to what is was. Bernie’s plan for free education would cost each tax payer $56 per year. I’m lucky I grow up in a time when you could make enough money working part time to pay for college. In 1971 I was making $100 a week and my school cost $618 per year plus books room and board. My oldest daughters bill for her first year was $27,000

          • john jones

            your answer is the right answer. the problem we have now in this country is too many people looking for help and with 18 trillion dollars of debt the govt. just can’t accommodate all of them not to mention people that think they are entitled to a free ride on taxpayers back. college tuition is another issue we have priced education so high that the general population has a hard time paying for it and to be honest we have people in college that in a lot of cases go just to have a good time and party on their parents money. I worked 3 jobs to educate my 2 boys but I also kept a close eye on their grades and what they were doing since they went to a local college where I could monitor their where abouts. if possible I recommend every parent sending their child to a local school and know what they are doing instead of this dormitory life style where we have drinking parties and where young girls wind up raped by a bunch of drunks.

          • john jones

            your answer is the right answer. the problem we have now in this country is too many people looking for help and with 18 trillion dollars of debt the govt. just can’t accommodate all of them not to mention people that think they are entitled to a free ride on taxpayers back. college tuition is another issue we have priced education so high that the general population has a hard time paying for it and to be honest we have people in college that in a lot of cases go just to have a good time and party on their parents money. I worked 3 jobs to educate my 2 boys but I also kept a close eye on their grades and what they were doing since they went to a local college where I could monitor their where abouts. if possible I recommend every parent sending their child to a local school and know what they are doing instead of this dormitory life style where we have drinking parties and where young girls wind up raped by a bunch of drunks.

          • john jones

            work is a blessing too bad we don’t have more people in this country that feels that way. instead of sending welfare checks out to a lot of people that don’t deserve it why not take that money and build high rises for them to live in and monitor them daily.

          • john jones

            it’s easy to know when Obama lies it is when his lips start moving.

          • podunk1

            Your post is RIGHT! bobsnuff is a treasonous troll.

          • MeWynne

            I wondered what kind of response you’d give – I rest my case. Your initial comment about the Koch Bros buying the next election is a bunch of crap – read your response above!!!!!!

          • john jones

            bob: you talk about sheep then you must look at your self the way you follow this ungodly idiot you voted for. when is the last time you seen your leader exit a church or is this the doctrine you are comfortable with.

          • bobnstuff

            I was given a choice to vote for the man who destroyed the company I worked for or Obama. If you think Obama is ungodly look at Trump, he can’t tell you how many times he went to church, he had to work on Sundays. I’ve owned four companies and never missed Church. If giving one hour a week to God is a problem then God isn’t important in your life. I will not judge Obama on his present church going habits only because having the President in your church disrupts everything.

          • john jones

            I understand your feelings on Romney but a new day is looming and trump is not going to get the republican nomination. I don’t condemn no man for what he does because in the day of reckoning every man and woman will only answer to what they have done on this earth. in early years I kind of leaned to either party and mostly what the man stood for but in 2012 when democrats wanted to take god out of their platform and discard that name I in good conscious could not support them again. one thing for sure this world will not last forever as we know it now.

          • bobnstuff

            Of all the people running for president on either side I like John Kasich. Since I lie in Pa I will be surprised if he is still in the race by the time get to vote. As far as the Democrats taking God out of their platform I didn’t mind. With the politics today I am just as happy not having them lie in the name of God.

          • john jones

            bob: removing the word god is an athesist theme. I don’t believe in nothing.

          • john jones

            bob: removing the word god is an athesist theme. I don’t believe in nothing.

          • bobnstuff

            It takes more faith to be an atheist then to believe in God. If you believe in God and are wrong you have lost nothing but if you reject God and there is one you go to hell. That being said our founding fathers wanted to keep the Church and the State apart. I don’t want the government in my church and I don’t want my church in my government.

          • john jones

            under liberalism you may be in for a shock as we go forward. every nationality that comes to this country brings their religion. they have already cancelled yours out of schools and prayer at council meetings. in mine and your life time I firmly believe your church and mine will be shut down because of some one else’s views. if you own a gun the govt. would love to take it the problem being is high officials don’t want guns taken away from people that guard them. the pope is a good example guarded by an armory of guns. seems like he would welcome being shot that would speed his journey to heaven.

          • bobnstuff

            Here I believe you are wrong, no one wants your gun or mine. They want the guns that are doing the killing. the problem is how do you get them without infringing on rights of people who are responsible. Last year they picked up 6800 illegal guns in Chicago The problem with public prayer is who’s prayer do you use. I was in school when we still prayed and I can remember being confused because it wasn’t the same as the one I prayed in church and I was a Lutheran. I can’t even imagine what a Hindi child would think. I want my religion respected so I must respect the religion of other.

          • john jones

            people are being killed by not guns but irresponsible humans like drunk drivers are killing women children and men every day. the sad part about Chicago they didn’t get all the guns on the 4th. of july this year there was 32 black on black killings. shuld we propose that all blacks be off the streets by sun down. the major problem we have in religion is the minirioty is controlling the majority. did you read about a young girl in kansas last week wore her cross on a chain around her neck and some one complained it was offensive. liberalism never sleeps.

          • john jones

            people are being killed by not guns but irresponsible humans like drunk drivers are killing women children and men every day. the sad part about Chicago they didn’t get all the guns on the 4th. of july this year there was 32 black on black killings. shuld we propose that all blacks be off the streets by sun down. the major problem we have in religion is the minirioty is controlling the majority. did you read about a young girl in kansas last week wore her cross on a chain around her neck and some one complained it was offensive. liberalism never sleeps.

          • bobnstuff

            It all boils down to respect, respect for others beliefs and for life in general. Many people don’t feel that their life has value and don’t value the lives of others. It makes killing easier for them. First one must respect themselves and value their own life

          • john jones

            home raising in America is our biggest ills. men traveling the country and popping babies in women so they can go to social services. no cure for this disease. no home life no value.

          • john jones

            home raising in America is our biggest ills. men traveling the country and popping babies in women so they can go to social services. no cure for this disease. no home life no value.

          • john jones

            under liberalism you may be in for a shock as we go forward. every nationality that comes to this country brings their religion. they have already cancelled yours out of schools and prayer at council meetings. in mine and your life time I firmly believe your church and mine will be shut down because of some one else’s views. if you own a gun the govt. would love to take it the problem being is high officials don’t want guns taken away from people that guard them. the pope is a good example guarded by an armory of guns. seems like he would welcome being shot that would speed his journey to heaven.

          • john jones

            I understand your feelings on Romney but a new day is looming and trump is not going to get the republican nomination. I don’t condemn no man for what he does because in the day of reckoning every man and woman will only answer to what they have done on this earth. in early years I kind of leaned to either party and mostly what the man stood for but in 2012 when democrats wanted to take god out of their platform and discard that name I in good conscious could not support them again. one thing for sure this world will not last forever as we know it now.

        • Bingolady

          You must be referring to the baby butchering atheists in the Democrat Party. No wonder the Pope cancelled having lunch with Pelosi.

          • bobnstuff

            Once there was a party that people who cared about the business of the nation and it’s economic health joined. All religions were welcome and the name of God wasn’t important but the growth of the country was. Then some good Christian people joined because the other party wasn’t racist enough for them anymore. Now that party can’t win national elections and have forgotten how to even run the country. This is now a party that keeps making the tent smaller and smaller. They have become a party of sheep that will follow any goat to their own demise. The bigger the lie they are told the happier they are. They love to complain about what they are told the government is doing even when in fact the government has done nothing. I miss the old party that got things done and left God to the churches.

          • john jones

            bobnstuff: I have my doubts you have ever entered a church. just examine what your party supports and then examine your own life and what you stand for. no law and order no financial responsibility and the most immoral party in American history. if you believe there is no god then you have joined the right party for you.

          • podunk1

            more pertinent info posted at bob

          • Ace Dragon

            KEEP RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS!1 THATS WHAT HE IS SAYING. YOU TROLL, JUST WAITING LIKE A VULUTUER TO INSULT SOMEONE!

          • john jones

            keep Sharpton out of the white house.

          • john jones

            keep Sharpton out of the white house.

          • bobnstuff

            My party is the one the Tea Party is stealing, thank you.
            I will stand before my maker with no fear But I believe that church and state should be separated just like our founding fathers did.

          • john jones

            bob: I agree with you that is why I want Obama to move al Sharpton out of the white house.

          • bobnstuff

            But Sharpton is a minister of God, I though Obama was a Muslim so why is minister a bad thing. I have no real use for the Rev. Sharpton and I’m sure he will be gone when the next president moves in.

          • john jones

            bob: your answer is debatable al Sharpton is a minister of stealing from poor blacks and encourages them to break the law. what man of god do you know that has a muti-million dollar mansion in Beverly hills California that is supported by taking money from the needy and giving it to the greedy. al Sharpton.

          • john jones

            bob: your answer is debatable al Sharpton is a minister of stealing from poor blacks and encourages them to break the law. what man of god do you know that has a muti-million dollar mansion in Beverly hills California that is supported by taking money from the needy and giving it to the greedy. al Sharpton.

          • john jones

            bob: I agree with you that is why I want Obama to move al Sharpton out of the white house.

          • podunk1

            Tax/regulation evading alien employment “rips-off” the USA & citizens! Criminal alien invaders @ $6 cash/hr (no tax/fringes) costs criminal employers $12,480/yr. Criminal employees take home $12,480 cash + $36,545 government subsidies totals $49,025 tax free! $49,025 net @25% wage tax is a $65,367 taxable wage! Lawful employer cost @30% tax/fringes would be $84,977/yr. ($40.85/hr.)!

            The BLS average employer pays $67,627 noted above, which is a $52,021 employee wage, and $44,998 @ August 34.6 hours worked That less 25% employee tax is $33,749 take home pay which is $15,277 less than the full time criminal invader, which explains why illegals cash $100 bills at Walmart while citizens run up credit card bills!

            The $67,627 patriotic lawful employer can’t compete with the criminal who pays $12,480 for the same output to a criminal alien whose government subsidized compensation would require an $84,977 taxable wage. That $55,147 per employee criminal enterprise cost advantage puts all competitors out of business. That’s $501,470 per 10 employees annually – TAX FREE. The same essentially applies to “outsourcing” beyond the reach of US law.

            Think about IRS losing 55% of $84,977 (46,737) on the criminal alien wage plus the $55,147 pocketed by the criminal alien ($30,331)… combined $77,068 EACH & $848 Billion @11 million MORE $$$$ in mostly IRS tax/fringe flushed down the criminal crapper directly under the eyes of OBAMA and his RINO/Maoist thieves!

            I hope every prosecutor in the USA reads and begins to understand this. Article 6 empowers every 2nd oath bound official and judge to defend Constitution, country, and laws thereunder… which includes the Chambers of Commerce! PROSECUTE!!! Pass it on to the unions! WAKE THEM UP!!!!

          • Elizabeth

            Thank you, Podunk1 Numbers Person ! Don’t forget that they live multi family in one rental, so not even contributing to home owner or utilities correctly.

          • podunk1

            Many live like they did in “grapes of wrath” in any old building with many beds, straw, or leaves.

            Unilke “grapes of wrath” 1930’s depression poverty, low end criminal aliens get $6/hr. ($12,480/yr.) tax/regulation free cash plus 1/11 millionth of the $402 billion ($36,545) free welfare and US infrastructure benefits… taking home $49,025/yr tax free, which would require a $65,367/yr 25% taxable wage that would cost his employer $84,977/yr. with 35% employer paid tax/fringes. Because “UNDOCUMENTED” aliens have no documentation or verifiable legal ID, They can be anybody they want to be as many times as they want to collect every form of welfare and tax subsidy known WITH THE HELP OF PROGRESSIVES WITHIN GOVERNMENT!!! Every bit of it is felony crimes by the alien, the employer, and Countless oath betrayers from Obama on down the line!! The criminal alien reward for it is worth living in a barn or culvert if necessary. The loot is sent home securely outside of the USA!
            The average full-time August $52,208 individual wage costs employers $67,870/yr. Unfortunately, 34.5 average worker’s 34.5/hr. 45,029 wage only nets $33,772! Unfortunately, the law-abiding US employer paid $67,870/yr. full time while the RINO supported criminal employer paid $12,480 with zero administrative & tax/regulation costs and pocketed the $55,390 difference EACH, AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE. That replaced the US supply/demand free economy with absolute lawless tyranny! The $17,107 difference in the $84,999 criminal alien incentive and $67,870 legal productive cost slithered out of sight within very profitable unknown bonus productive wealth generation.
            Think about it and we might understand why RINO/Maoist democrat monopolists and their planted saboteurs within government are in a frenzy trying protect and expand outsourcing jobs and in-sourcing criminal workers. They’re very afraid of the capital justice related to the high crimes committed!

        • john jones

          bobnstuff: it’s is always easy to mention the Koch brothers if you are a democrat but they always fail to mention the 2 billionaires George soros and steyer that support the most immoral party in American history and that is liberal progressive democrats that march in step with law breakers and immoral Hollywood movie stars that are corrupting this nation with their movies.

          • bobnstuff

            The Koch Bro. could buy or sell Soros and Steyer out of petty cash. I would be careful with statements about the moral level of the Democrats, Take a look at the Republicans. The front runner is hardly the poster boy for morals. People have been complaining about the movies morality since the silent years.

          • john jones

            bob: I think you need more research on soros and steyer since both of those guy are billionaires. I use to love movies when the actors were republican but as you know they are now immoral democrats that corrupt the minds of young people and are supported in part by people on welfare that spend grocery money to go see them just act.

          • podunk1

            bobsnuff must be trolling for porn! He doesn’t know anyone on welfare because welfare folks can’t afford to eat in his wife’s restaurant. Spending a lot of time in the attic limits time to know real people, especially walmartians with no money..

          • john jones

            bob: I think you need more research on soros and steyer since both of those guy are billionaires. I use to love movies when the actors were republican but as you know they are now immoral democrats that corrupt the minds of young people and are supported in part by people on welfare that spend grocery money to go see them just act.

          • bobnstuff

            Koch Bro, net worth $100 billion
            Soros net worth $25 billion
            Steyer net worth $1.3 billion
            Do you know anyone on welfare?
            Movies have always been immoral.

          • john jones

            bob: I don’t care who spends what as long as we get immoral democrats out of the white house. lighting up the white house for gay marriage is the last straw. why not spend that money on something worth while. sick children with cancer.

          • bobnstuff

            What money, They light up the White House every nights ad the jells are used at Christmas. You may not like it but Gay Marriage is a big deal to a lot of people.

          • john jones

            tell me what isn’t a big deal since democrats were elected to the white house locking to many black gangsters up in prison,letting illegals jump the fences,mass shottings in colleges,19 trillion dollars we are in debt,govt. officals stealing and lying,villifying police officers for doing their jobs gay people have always been in this country but 2 men can’t get married because married people produce children. I don’t do any thing to hurt gay people but will not march with these misfits and if nancy Pelosi is normal then a mule is a cow. these things are a bigger deal to me.

          • bobnstuff

            I wish the President had the power to control everything in our world but their power is limited. As far as Gays getting married I have no problem, I have had Gay friends all my life and have seen their relationships. They deserve the same rights under the law as anyone. The government only gives legal rights not the blessing of God. When I meet God I will ask him but until then I will respect their relationship..

          • john jones

            no disagreement on gays I have had really good friends and have never seen or heard of one on the welfare system they are responsible people. just opposed to marriage when civil unions should give them their rights. as I oppose a transgender boy that wants to be a girl wanting to use a bathroom while my daughter is in there. some things just don’t add up in our society.

          • john jones

            no disagreement on gays I have had really good friends and have never seen or heard of one on the welfare system they are responsible people. just opposed to marriage when civil unions should give them their rights. as I oppose a transgender boy that wants to be a girl wanting to use a bathroom while my daughter is in there. some things just don’t add up in our society.

          • bobnstuff

            All marriage licenses should be civil unions only. The state hasn’t the power to join to people other then under the law, not under God. ch as I have tried I still haven’t come to terms with transgender and how too deal with them.

          • john jones

            tell me what isn’t a big deal since democrats were elected to the white house locking to many black gangsters up in prison,letting illegals jump the fences,mass shottings in colleges,19 trillion dollars we are in debt,govt. officals stealing and lying,villifying police officers for doing their jobs gay people have always been in this country but 2 men can’t get married because married people produce children. I don’t do any thing to hurt gay people but will not march with these misfits and if nancy Pelosi is normal then a mule is a cow. these things are a bigger deal to me.

          • john jones

            bob: I don’t care who spends what as long as we get immoral democrats out of the white house. lighting up the white house for gay marriage is the last straw. why not spend that money on something worth while. sick children with cancer.

          • podunk1

            Betcha bobsnuff owns a real Mexican restraint where the wife runs it, pays the meaningful bills, & makes sure the food is good while booby is up stairs reading Obama’s books & watching reruns of his speeches.

          • bobnstuff

            Wrong Italian, and my wife is a four star chef. I sold the restraint a while back. I do read a lot of books on a wide range of subjects because I like to know what the real facts are and like a wide range of sources. I really like reading Biographies of people so I have facts to go on instead of trusting the media.

          • podunk1

            GOTCHA! and it’s a WAP… wonderful food and people!. grew up with a few almost right off the boat.

            If true, we need to get you out of the Chicago Mafia, away from the cuffs, and into saving this great country. Most of my career was saving sinking ships. Biggest lesson is truth can cut but it removes the cancer and pain.

          • bobnstuff

            I owned an Italian restraint in Pittsburgh but I’m mostly British. My family came over in the late 1600’s for the most part. We have lived in Eastern Ohio and Western Pa. since 1790. I have held office in the Republican party, My grandfather, one of my Uncles, one of my Aunts and my Cousin all have held office as Republicans. I’m one of five children and only one of us hasn’t owned at least one business. I have owned four companies and written checks to the government for over a million dollars over the years. Besides my own companies I have been involved with a number of start-up. I think that makes me a capitalist. I’m also a Christian so helping the needy is also my job. Christ has given clear orders to his followers on how we should treat our fellow man and I try to follow them. I don’t speak out because I hate America but because I love it and I hate what people are trying to do to her. I hate the hypocrisy of the Christian right and many of the leaders of the Tea Party. As far as I can see it the most damage done to our country is being done not by the presidents actions but by the people who are trying to destroy him. You destroy any president and you do damage to the office that he holds. Using lies to create fear in the people does real damage to our country and there have been some very large lies told for that purpose. Just around the ACA the numbers of lies has been amazing. Death panels, the government getting between you and your Doctor, it will destroy the economy, All these things are lies. Could the ACA been better? Yes. Are there things that need fixed, Oh yes but the idea of cost controls of health care is sound and good for the country. People in countries with good universal heath care are healthier and happier and spend less money. Good heath care is good for business. Healthy people are more productive. If the republican party is the party of business which it was when I joined it then the ACA should have been created by the republicans, it was their idea in the first place. I think that the thing that upsets me the most is when people use progressive as a bad thing. It was the republican party that was the progressive party. forward moving, reaching out to build a better future for everyone. There is no going back even if we wanted to. The republican party needs to be the party that build the future of our country not undermine the present.

      • podunk1

        Trump and a good dose of RICO can “trump” the C/C conspiracy

      • Robert Wilson

        I am surprised an entity has not attempt to destroy these anti American organizations.

    • jyrine

      Elizabeth, the Chamber of Commerce was co-opted by the Communist Party years ago.

      • Rx7pj

        Garbage

      • MeWynne

        Oh for crying out loud – Get a Grip!

    • podunk1

      The Chamber of Commerce is a lethal threat to the USA. RICO offers a solution! Insurrection and rebellion as in Amendment 14-3&4 applies to “bribed” officials as well as other betrayal of oath and fidelity laws.

    • The Redhawk

      ONLY his THIN skin gets in his way along with his BIG MOUTH…. The Self Impressed DONALD needs to Stop atatcking GOP candidates and go after OBAMA, Clinton/Biden/Kerry Incompetence and the Progressive fascists in Congress with Facts and Plans….then I may give him Credibility….

      • Elizabeth

        You’re correct … he is his own worst enemy. But, he is a leader (and with all his quirks) he WILL get something done.

        • The Redhawk

          He can Start by reversing His LOSING position to Hillery Dickery DOO…while Fiorina BEATS her in Iowa and NH Polls.. and DA Donald is Sinking in polls of Registered VOTERS…But even if I have to Hold my nose.. “ANYONE BUT SHILLERY” is my Motto

    • Elizabeth

      So many want to tell us who to vote for, what we have to think, how we should live, who we need to pay our hard earned money to, how-when-where we should speak … at least Trump is honest. He is brazen, but look at how other productive people and leaders were like down through history. He is a leader of the people, with American values at heart. He is not in this ONLY for himself. I hope he does make out as a businessman as a result of his leadership, but he won’t be the only one … we will all be U.S. winners ! Phooey to all the special interest groups who DO NOT have The U.S. at heart !

    • Robert Wilson

      Like the ACLU, the CC is not following it’s charter.

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