China Fires 1st Warning Shot at President-Elect Trump

by Arjun Kharpal | CNBC.com  |  published on November 14, 2016

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Apple iPhones and other U.S. goods could suffer sales hits in China if President-elect Donald Trump goes through with his “naive” plan of slapping a large import tariff on Chinese products, a state-backed newspaper warned on Sunday.

During his election campaign this year, Trump spoke of a 45 percent import tariff on all Chinese goods while failing to outline how it would work. Should any such policy come into effect, China will take a “tit-for-tat approach”, according to an opinion piece in the Global Times, a newspaper backed by the Communist party.

“A batch of Boeing orders will be replaced by Airbus. U.S. auto and iPhone sales in China will suffer a setback, and U.S. soybean and maize imports will be halted. China can also limit the number of Chinese students studying in the U.S.,” the Global Times article read.

Apple has not responded to CNBC’s request for comment.

But the Chinese newspaper was not convinced Trump would go through with his suggestion, calling it “merely campaign rhetoric” and questioning its legal validity. U.S. law dictates that presidents can only impose tariffs of no more than 15 percent for a maximum of 150 days on all imports.

  • JOHN STEEL

    CHINA .. is not dealing with BHO. D.T is much tougher . CHINA, had better stop flexing its muscle. they could not afford any kind of conflict .

  • Richard Nicoletti

    Fool, it’s China who would suffer, not America. Quit putting your opinion into a new story. Do a little research before you start slamming the man’s ideas before they are initiated.

  • Grim Reaper

    Let the trade wars begin. For way too long we have allowed China to suck the life out of our nation by dumping all their production here. I believe in free trade, but when one side manipulates its currency and limits our ability to access its markets, and likewise does not operate under the same constraints and rules companies here have to. Then we have unfair trade, and Trump is right to impose tariffs and nix doing business with the Chinese or any nation that likewise practices such policies.

  • nokabosh

    We lose over $400 B every year to China. Time to even that up.

  • Walter Flatt

    I DO NOT THINK CHINA CAN BLUFF TRUMP.

    FROM A KOREAN WAR VET, 1951/53, A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, BUT MOST OF ALL A CHRISTIAN. I VOTED FOR TRUMP.

    PRAY FOR PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMP EVERY DAY. HE WILL NEED US TO OVERCOME THE EVELS OF THIS WORLD.

    WE NEED TO MAKE JESUS CHRIST FIRST FOR THIS COUNTRY AND DO NOT BELEIVE EVERYTHING YOUR HEAR. KNOW THE FACTS.

    NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL TAX EXAMPT ENTIES, SUCH AS THE MASONIC LODGE, KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS AND ALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES TO GET OUT IN THE OPEN, FIND OUT ABOUT PEOPLE AND ADVISE THEIR PEOPLE THE TRUE STORY SO THAT THEY CAN VOTE FOR THE BEST.

    THIS IS WHAT 20 MILLION AMISH PEOPLE DID. 30 LEADERS MEET IN OHIO WITH 3 MILLION AND VOTED THAT ALL WOULD VOTE FOR TRUMP.

    THIS IS WHAT GAVE HIM OH, PA, MICH, FLA, HELPED IN IND AND NEARLY GAVE HIM VA.

    FOLKS IF YOU DO NOT THINK GOD WAS INVOLVED IN THIS ELECTION, I SUGGEST YOU THINK AGAIN.

    TRUMP HAS PROMISED THAT HE WILL REPEAL THE JOHNSON DEAL THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY YOUR TAX EXAMPTION IF YOU TALKED POLITICS.

    IF WE HAVE NOT BEEN SET UP AT A TRY OF A MUSLIM TAKE, WHY ARE THERE AND MINIMUM O 37 MUSLIMS CAMPS IN THE USA, (5 IN N. VA. CLOSE TO DC) AND A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, TRY AND BUY UP ALL AMMO, TAKE OUR GUNS, BRING IN THOUSANDS OF YOU MUSLIMSE. GET READY FOLK. PUT PIG GREASE ON YOUR BULLETS.

    A LOT OF CHRISTIANS VOTED FOR THIS, GOOGLE, THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES 2015 AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN.

  • Gale

    Has that worthless son of a bitch in the white house spoken out against the criminals in the streets??? Didn’t think so.

  • mustang6984

    China and other countries need to level the playing field…or suffer accordingly.

  • David Islay

    I wish President Elect Donald Trump would be clearer in his statements about what “HE” is going to do. He’s sounding like that other guy with the phone and pen. He needs to involve Congress in his plans. He has majority in both houses, but if he actually gives the opportunity for debate perhaps a better plan, or better details and specifics can be constructed.

    • Mike Thomas

      Or Mr. Trump could do like Your past President told Congress. I have a pen and a phone and I do not need Congress, I will by pass them.
      Over 2400 executive orders in 8 years, and Congress did nothing to stop him!!!

      • David Islay

        Exactly Mike Thomas — that’s what I am hoping to hear Donald Trump say he’s not going to do. He does have to do executive orders to eliminate most of obama’s, I realize that, but I’m more concerned with the “I’m going to build a wall” “I’m going to re-negotiate treaties” — I would rather hear him say he’s going to work with both Democrats and Republicans to accomplish these needed changes. (although with Harry Reid, there will be few times any of the Democrats will work with the Republicans). Will be interesting to see how things work out. I am relatively optimistic.

  • Worried Vet

    Screw them, don’t send students and don’t import one item to us. We can take care of ourselves, grow what we need and make anything else we need. We did it during WWII and supplies most every country that helped defeat Nazi’s, Italy and Japan. Don’t China get it we don’t need them, they need us. Trading with China has cost us jobs. If our debt wasn’t out of control Trump could tell China to bug off. Since we owe them over a trillion dollars we have to play nice. The people of this country need to wake up, and start demanding these idiot elites were freaking broke, and we can’t keep adding to the debt like Obama has. Obama has doubled our debt and added more debt that all 43 presidents before him combined. Now isn’t that a record the freaking liberals should be proud of. For all you snowflakes out there causing damage, you should be glad now there might be hope in saving this country. With our debt like it is free college and lots of other freebies are over. They may have to cancel Pell grants. And many other programs we don’t freaking need. How rough do you think your life will be then, and you can thank Obama and all his liberal minions. Life is tough and believe it or not everyone don’t get a trophy. There are winners and losers, so freaking grow up, cause it sure looks like all that college money went to waste.

  • itsfun

    I doubt if President Trump will draw any red lines and then back down like Obama.

  • USMC and America proud

    OK, Let’s examine the losses! First thing to note about China as a whole! They have a rather large population, with one of the worst “per capita” incomes on the planet! If you don’t know what that means, it’s simple! The average income of the single individual is very low….maybe a $1 an hour if that! Now this isn’t reflected in the movies, news pictures and such you see, because being a Communist government, they control what you are allowed to see, or hear about their country! So you see a very well dressed population, great looking buildings, and a projection of wealth! BUT because of the government, they don’t show you the dying parts of the country! They don’t show you the poorest of the people! They don’t show you the unsanitary conditions, the diseased kids, and in short….the real truth!
    The FIRST thing we would ‘lose’ by Trump and our congress taking back our money and trade, IS POISON! I give you ‘forgotten facts’ about our dealing with this country!
    Are you old enough to remember the ‘stink’ about several American companies that were found to be getting their pet foods from Chinese companies? We had families that lost their pets from eating pet foods that had been laced with melamine, which is what some of our cheap PLASTIC dinnerware is made from! It is poisonous, of course, and made its way into our large corporations’ dog and cat foods! Hundreds of pets died from this stuff destroying their kidneys! Another tragic occurrence was the TOY problem that happened one Christmas! A craft artwork that was advertised to kids, which was supposed to give the children the way to make stunning art creations from these beads that stuck to the art paper, hit the streets, but before the week of Christmas got here, kids that had been given the products ended up in the ER! The beads had been coated with the same type of drug called the ‘date rape’ drug! Kids went into comas!
    And THAT brings me to my point!
    Things shipped to our own industries from China CAN’T BE TRUSTED!!! Not to feed our pets, not to eat off of, drink from, wear on our bodies, NOT AT ALL!! in the first case of us catching the melamine laced pet food? China’s answer was to take their equivalent of our FDA director, stand him up against a wall and shoot him! “There! Problem solved!” said the Chinese government!
    But as recently as last year, products made in, or made from ingredients from China were independently tested from Walmart, Dollar General, Dollar Tree, and other such store chains, and were shown that up to nearly 20% to be made from dangerous toxic ingredients NOT ALLOWED AT ALL in goods manufactured in the USA! That means that China could care less about it, but WORSE than that, these American companies KNOW that these products are unsafe, AND ARE STILL SELLING THEM! The people buying these poisoned products are those on fixed incomes or not able to buy “made in USA” products, like college students and people working at low paying jobs! The cheap plastic sandwich box that you get from these companies to put your child’s lunch in, contains poisonous ingredients to make the plastic that leach into your kids lunch! Can these products be made safer? YES! But of course, not as cheap! So we go “Hey, that looks good, and it only costs a dollar at dollar tree” and then ask why the level of autism in our kids is so high!
    But the other real tragedy is that when these American companies lost so much business from the deaths of pets, did they STOP using things from China? NO!! They found a way of hiding this fact from the consumers! They convinced the public they’re NEW, IMPROVED products were now made in America! They even adopted the label!
    What they hide from us when we go to the local Walmart (or Target, or local grocer, it doesn’t matter) is that the product IS made in America, BUT still made from ingredients from China!! So NOW you believe that you have been protected from the poisons! Sorry, they’re lying to you! If the packaging doesn’t specifically SAY “Made in America, FROM INGREDIENTS Made in America (or other country of origin OTHER than China, Bangladesh, Mexico or other countries that don’t have strict controls on ingredients and processes used in manufacturing), the product may still be hazardous to your health!
    Clothing made in China or made from cloth from China, may be dyed with poisonous dyes that leach into our bodies!
    Tyson and others, have now gotten permission from the feds to ship chickens to China for processing! Really want to eat a chicken that was washed in the water there? The Chinese plumbing has a lot of lead in it! The streams have been contaminated by landfills that have been filled with MOTHERBOARDS out of dead and abandoned computer products, even all the way from the US!

    So what would we gain from discontinuing trade with China? Our health back!

  • kajohns55

    He will get Congress to raise the rate to 45.

  • Tom Sepe

    Any body see the connection christie, atlantic city casinos, sicilian mafia, trump?

    • Karll

      Just you, apparently.

  • Loyd Patterson

    China is just trying to see what they can get away with. You can expect the different countries try and bluff, it is a game. But hopefully Mr. Trump and his cabinet will call their bluffs.

  • Albert L Biele

    China is for China, having no regard for the American economy. We must do what ever is necessary to bring American companies back to America, China can make their profits on Chinese companies, who do not infringe on US patients; We must inform all American companies who manufacture their product in other countries, that they will pay a high tariff (US tax), when shipping their products back into our country. American interest must come first!!!

  • Mister Vice

    What have we got to lose? All I see on the shelves anymore is “Made in China” and if you checck out the goods on eBay, most of THAT comes from China as well. I say “sock it to ’em” Mr. President. THEY need what we have more than the other way round! And who the hell cares if they recall their students from our universities???

  • Luke

    We voted for Trump because we’re tired of being robbed by these globalist and their wealth re-distribution theft of the American worker.. f**k china and their crappy products

  • Tiger

    Personally I am tired of China and it’s cheap goods that flooded our shelves and seems to be the Giant that Jack the Giant killer Trump needs to cut down to size. He is right make good deals and quit sucking hind tit to the world.

  • cae973

    limit the amount of chinese studying here ha ha…good riddance

  • snowyriver

    products from China would cost as much as products from America.. Patriots would then not worry about their pocketbooks and buy American.

    • kbfallon

      Some of do buy “made in the usa” …I spend the extra money $ in my business and feel good doing it as it pays off with not having to keep purchasing the same tools over and over again. Buy American — the job you save may be your own!

  • Cadfael

    If China loses access to the U.S. market they are much worse of than if we lose access to the Chinese market. Their gold reserves came out of the pockets of U.S. consumers – time to reverse this re-distribution of wealth. Bill Clinton gave them access to U.S. patents without them having to spend one dime – that was the basis for their not previously existent space program and aviation industry. China’s golden days of self-serve to our wealth and jobs are over, Americans have caught on and enough is enough!

  • Frank

    Stephen Howe, you took the words right out of my mouth I lived the same way, went to college for special classes and made a very decent wage thru my working years and am very proud of it, we need to have our youngsters get a good education and the jobs be there for them to make out country Great again, with pride and great joy and satisfaction. GO TRUMP GO GO GO..

  • David Stewart

    Dumb idea; would put Walmart out of business (no inventory) and if I owed that much money to some one, I’d be very careful NOT to offend them!

    • Karll

      So, we remain beholden to the Chinese for our manufactured goods forever?

      • David Stewart

        It began long before you and I had any idea this country wanted communism(socialism, the Dims call it)!

  • Jimmy Dean

    So where is the down side , nothing but positive feedback thus far

  • Rock

    So what….. DO IT, PLEASE !!!
    The U.S. takes in TONS more of their Chinese JUNK ! They get HIGH quality U.S. goods while dumping their sub standard GARBAGE here. Time to pull the plug on the Chinese.

  • Rick D.

    I think they’re just blowing smoke. They need our products much more than we need theirs. This is one of the 1st steps we need to take in order to restore our dignity and gain respect from other countries. Under BHO, we were weak!

  • Ray62

    First, if any country including China sends their best and brights here to study, they should be the ones paying for OUR kids education, PERIOD, even Burnie would go along with that concept. If our folks start making widgets again the price of the product will go up for sure; but their will be more money left in our economy which brings in taxes which pays for infrastructure improvements, more jobs, more taxes. Mr. TRUMP has it right. America FIRST

  • rwendling70

    Halt Chinese students coming here to study? The only people hurt by this would be the vastly overpaid, taxpayer supported education business, a great place to start cutting Federal spending! I can hear the cries of oh, your hurting the children. These are not children and education is not for the Feds to be doing!

  • David Tierney

    Why the hell do we need soy. It’s killing people. Why do we need Chinese students studying here? China has far more to lose. They might even have to close some of their sweat shops that employ children who make 2 dollars per week working 6 or 7, 12 hour days per week.

    • USMC and America proud

      Most of the Soy we get, is grown right here in the US. The problem with it however, is the genetic tampering that we call GMO! THIS makes the product worse for human consumption. Hopefully Trump can see it our way, and start to get rid of the stuff, or at least make sure that the products are labeled as such so we don’t have to buy them.

  • Stephen Howe

    Cut China off at the knees. We MUST bring back manufacturing jobs to the USA, no matter what. I’m a 100% Apple addict, and I’m willing to $uffer a bit at first. The USA cannot continue to be an economy based on rabid consumerism and “service-sector, burger-flipping, minimum wage jobs.” My parents based every decision in their lives around sending my sister & me to quality schools. They saved to send us to the best colleges, and yet I quickly realized that money was going to be in short supply if I relied solely on tuition checks from my parents. I wouldn’t make any real money waiting tables or being a cashier…but back in the 70s their were many factory jobs in my college town. One big employer, DuPont, even had a 16hrs/wk weekend employment plan just for college students. I worked for them throughout grad school, also…for seven years…which fed the bulldog, so to speak. Today, there are exactly ZERO factory jobs here anymore. Now students must rely on onerous student loans, which were unnecessary & illegal when I was in college (unless underwritten by parental cosigners). Not everyone is suited for college. We cannot have a nation full of doctors & lawyers. There is no shame in blue collar work and decent, blue collar wages. We need to reclaim our role as manufacturing juggernaut to survive. We can & will. WITH TRUMP, then with Pence for another 8 years!

    • Jerry

      Most jobs in this country are service and government jobs. Manufacturing is long gone. We need it back.

  • Philip Allen

    Screw China…we don’t need their crappy products anyway.

  • wiseone2

    That’s fine….. We’ll just team up with Russia, & the rest of the countries of the world, since China, Syria, Isis & whoever else, are THREATING global domination. China OWNS HOLLYWOOD!

    • joanne

      If we were the OLD USA both sides would be crying to be on our side! We had BETTER Wake UP. It may be. Ciber world but ethics, morality, and common sense is where IT IS!!

  • Tyronne Shoelaces

    Let them do a tit for tat tax……… they’ll still be the losers. As far as stopping their students from studying here, that’s fine. You’ll miss out on the best education….. well, used to be best education.

    • cutterguy

      Hopefully education will now be better for OUR students with recent developments.

    • reggie

      Wonder if they return to China as Chinese snowflakes.

  • Jerry

    So much bull. China’s export to the US is far greater than US export to China. China would be a big time loser if they tried to pull that off. Everything China is today is because of their cheap exports from child labor.
    Either we want the jobs back or we don’t. The companies who would suffer due to the tariff are the ones that are manufacturing in other countries.
    It is all scare tactic and its coming out at this time is probably to incite the riots that are going on.

    • John

      prisoner labor and child labor

    • David Tierney

      I agree but the riits are being perpetrated by George Soros and probably Hillary who hasn’tvsaid a word against the rioting. This is the crap we would have been stuck with had she won. These protestors (rioters) are mostly young college anf aged who have been brain washed by the liberal teachers and instructors.
      If they truly cared about the U.S. they would understand how devious Clinton has been. She runsca criminal organisation that wraps around the world.

      • Jerry

        Clinton was but a talking head for the globalist. one world government, open border, free trade crowd. She and Bill were paid millions to push that propaganda. Bill is a member of the Sharia Law School Board of Directors and he has made millions lecturing at the school.
        This alone tell us where we would be should Clinton have won. I do not believe the college students who are protesting and rioting really understand the situation. Let’s hope Trump will impress them in time.
        Part of the protesters are the illegals. I would hope we would pass a reciprocal law that would allow us to treat illegals the same way an American would be treated should he enter their country illegally.

        • David Tierney

          George Soros is hated the world over but loved by the Socialist Party, aka the Democratic Party. The Clinton Criminal Cartrel would have started WWlll and eventually flood this Country with more illegals than citizens, leading to a 3rd world country. Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals fall into play in Hillary’s agenda. Followed by 8 levels to a Socialist State. There would no longer be a socalled middle class. We would be doomed if Hillary was elected. The rioters are upset because Trump SPOKE, a few times, about touching, fondling and using women. While Bill Clinton actually raped at least 2 dozen women. While Hillary helped to cover it up and treated those women to more abuse. She and her Husband are unfit to return ro the White House. And I hope that Trump never takes advise from either of them.

          • truthseeker

            George Soros had his name changed from his Jewish name by his Father during the Nazi Era and then his Father named , names of several Jewish people and how much money they had. George Soros is a Felon from France and was deported out of England . He came to America cause Germany, France and England do not want him back. At present we cannot Deport him, but hopefully that will change and we charge him 24 Billion dollars, keeping his Wealth in our Country. That could Build the Wall.

          • AKLady2015

            Oh, yes, the French insider trading.
            He paid the $2.3 million fine.

            His father did what was necessary to keep his family alive — you think that is some form of crime? Soros was all of 12 years old when the Nazi invaded Hungary.

            Deport Soros? Are you nuts? He is an American citizen.

            He makes a good target. However, he did not build refineries for the Nazis. Koch refineries that fueled the army that destroyed Europe. Fueled the Army that killed Americans. He did not found the Facist John Birch Society.

          • truthseeker

            You got half the Truth. George Soros Father changed his last name, cause they were Jews, but it did not end there. His Father helped the Nazis track down a lot of Wealthy Jews and Identify them . George learned at a very young age about what measures to take as an Advantage for himself. Most of our Protest in our Country are paid for by Mr. George Soros. Look and you will discover he is wanted in a lot of Countries for his underhanded dealings . He has committed so many Felonies in France and other Countries. Not a nice guy. We do not need this Evil man in our Country.

          • AKLady2015

            Well, you have some of the story correct.
            Soros’ father died in a Nazi consentration camp.

            To escape persecution from Hitler, Tivadar had fake identity papers made for his two children, both of whom were placed in the care of Christian families.

            George was placed in the care of a Christian man responsible for confiscating Jew’s property. A child cannot be held reponsible for what they have been forved to witness.

            Investigation by the France’s stock market regulator failed to find wrongdoing by Soros.

          • truthseeker

            It is good to always find out more than I knew. How about the story that Soros is funding these Protesters ? Thank you for your full story of facts I must of overlooked that part.

          • AKLady2015

            The Koch Brothers donate largely to both the Clinton and Trump campaigns. The Koch brothers speak with their words, which can’t be trusted, but they also speak with their money. Immediately after one of their owned Senators campaigned for Trump, they cut off his main monetary lifeline by pulling more than $2 million in ad time in Wisconsin.

          • AKLady2015

            Total garbage. Soros’ international philanthropy is legendary. He has built universities, schools and hospitals all over the world. His Open Society Foundations have supported paralegals and lawyers to represent thousands of individuals who were unlawfully being held, sometimes for years and without any legal representation. The Foundations have provided school and university fees for thousands of promising students, including young Roma, refugees from armed conflicts, and young people from other marginalized groups

        • AKLady2015

          What Sharia Law School are you talking about?

          All of America’s top law schools offer international law classes. To anyone with an ounce of sense, it is considered essential education.

          So far the only thing impressive about Trump is his unfitness to hold the highest office. His ignorance is immense.

          • Jerry

            Wow! You must have blinders on. Trump won the election against impossible odds. The entire political machine and the press were against him and he beat them by sheer genius.
            Replacing Constitutional Law in this country with Sharia Law would set women back 200 years.

          • AKLady2015

            Where did you ever get the idea that anyone wanted ro replace the Constitution with Sharia? What nut-case pagws have you been visiting? Maybe you should actually look up Sharia, much of it was the foundarion which led to Roman Law, whichn led to British Law, on which American Law is based.

          • Jerry

            Maybe Roman Law, British Law, and American Law left out the part sex with children and wife beating.

          • AKLady2015

            Actually, child sex was very much a part of Roman culture, as well as Greek. The wife beating fit quite well into the strict Protestant child slavery culture. Children are not longer taught about the sweat shops of America and England.

          • Jerry

            So, why would you want to go back to those times. Sharia Law has a strong foothold in Europe and would have developed rapidly here if Hillary had been elected.

          • AKLady2015

            Those with eyes who cannot see.

            The Conservative Crusade For Christian Sharia Law

            It’s not just the fringe anymore. Mainstream conservatives are trying to bring America’s laws into agreement with ‘God’s law.’

            The question isn’t: Will conservatives push to enact laws based on the Bible? We are way beyond that. The real questions are: 1. How many more of these laws do they want to impose? And, 2. What will our nation look like if their crusade is successful to bring America’s laws into agreement with “God’s law”?

            To some on the right, America is a “Christian nation”—like Saudi Arabia is a Muslim nation—meaning that our nation’s laws should be based on their religious text. These forces aren’t moved by Thomas Jefferson’s famous letter in which he spoke of the need to create, “a wall of separation between church and state.” Nor will they be swayed by citing Ronald Reagan’s words, “Church and state are, and must remain, separate.”

            Just a few weeks ago we saw another example of creeping Christian Sharia Law with a bill passed by Kansas’ House of Representatives that would allow people and businesses to deny services to same sex couples if it violated their “religious beliefs.” This proposed law would in essence legally sanction discrimination against gay Americans because same sex marriage is not approved by the Bible. Similar bills are pending in other State’s including Mississippi, Idaho, and Arizona.

            And in the past few years, we have seen pro-life Christian groups successfully lobby State legislatures to restrict access to abortions. They have also raised religious, not public policy, objections to the government funding birth control.

            But here’s the alarming thing: These views are no longer the fringe of American politics. They are increasingly become mainstream conservative fare.

            We saw that in 2012 when Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum declared his belief that the laws in our country must “comport” with God’s law. Santorum also argued in opposition to marriage equality, that our nation’s values “are based on Biblical truth… And, those truths don’t change just because people’s attitudes may change.”

            And former Governor Mike Huckabee, who is considering running for president in 2016, proclaimed during his 2008 presidential race that our laws should be in accordance with God’s.

            (Source: Dean Obeidallah, The Daily Beast, 02/18/2014)

          • Jerry

            God’s Law… There is no such thing as God Law. Religion has nothing to do with God. Religion is just another form of government mixed in.
            If the Constitution and the Bill of Rights was the law of the land the world would be such a better place.

          • AKLady2015

            They are the Law of the Land.
            It is the Constitution and the Bill of Rights that requires equal rights and equal justice.

          • Jerry

            Women and Blacks have been fighting for a level playing field for years. They have arrived or at least close to it, but they cannot see it. They cannot accept equality. They keep pushing for more and more. Eventually, we will have the same problems in reverse.

          • AKLady2015

            Jerry, $0.60 to a man’s $1.00 — qualifications not just equal, but often higher, is not a level playing field. That $0.40 is really not that hard to see. It requires just simple elementary arithmetic.

            Europe, Asia, Israel, Britain, Australia … have all had women elected to their highest office – decades before America. Even our neighbor Canada respects their women.

            American men cannot allow equality. They are weak and afraid … little boys. American men look at women as mothers, wives and prostitutes. They see women as servants, second class citizens.

            Your post echos that by clearly stating you believe women to be ignorant and selfish. You clearly make the point that women should settle for the little they have gained.

          • Jerry

            AKLady2015 you contradict yourself when you describe men. A level playing means that Women and Blacks can and should now fend for themselves and no longer as a movement. If men in the US were as you describe we would favor Sharia Law. This way we would be superior by law. Men are the ones who have made rulings to bring about equality for Women and Blacks. It is time to stop the name calling. It is now up to the individual Woman or Black to work to excel. Not to continue to make progress through insults and intimidation. It is the time to be and not a wannabe.
            The key to happiness is to be happy with yourself and not live in a ‘If only I had world; I would be happy.
            Please do not take this wrong. See the logic in it.
            When I watch television I see Women and Blacks in all types of position. Women or Black Governors, police chiefs, judges, politicians, business men/women. What more could make it a level field for Women and Blacks?. All Women and Blacks only in TV shows or in life. Get rid of all others.
            You say men are weak. You say Men fear equality. Not true. Men in the case of Women and Whites in the case of Blacks appear weak and seem to fear equality. In reality what they are doing is not fighting equality for both. They are accepting it to develop at its own pace with little or no resistance. If you see that as weak or a fear of equality then there lies the problem.
            We should all be Americans and equal in every way.

          • AKLady2015

            You are a prime example.
            Your posts document the bigotry very clearly.
            Thank you..

          • Jerry

            Maybe you are right. We should just keep the battle going. Why find a workable solution.
            Let’s please end this conversation. I do not see where we will ever agree and I do not wish to argue.

          • Harry J Schaubel

            And yours document your idiocy
            Thank you.

          • Harry J Schaubel

            Yup. Hard-Left Leaning Libtard. Did you know your Darling Hillary paid her staff women less than the men when she was Sec State? Do you totally discount all her lies, deceit, and plain robbery (Haiti)? Are you so enamored by that ragged dried-up thing between her legs that you don’t care anymore about America just because it’s “Time for a woman in the White House”?
            I think that anyone who runs for President should have the welfare and safety of the UNITED STATED OF AMERICA foremost. Not be so concerned with the World. Not so determined to end any resemblance of Nation by erasing our borders. You are so Anti-Trump it’s pathetic. But that’s ok. You’re a Left-tard so it’s understandable. Just like the rest of your Ilk you’d rather believe MSM and blame him for everything that you’ve perceived he might do and lambast him for doing it.

          • AKLady2015

            I stoped at the first childish name calling.

          • Harry J Schaubel

            Except that the WORLD has, for the most part, moved past that. They realized it was wrong and stopped it.
            I say “for the most part”, because Islam is still living in the 9th Century and not only refuse to move into the modern world but want to bring us back to their world.
            Maybe you haven’t heard that Islam’s openly stated intention is to bring down the West “From Within”.

          • AKLady2015

            You have been well-brainwashed.
            Many countries in which Isla, us practived have backward socities and veery poor public education. Those countries are backward because they were not permitted to progress — WHILE UNDER FRENCH AND BRITISH RULE.

          • Harry J Schaubel

            And I’m not exactly sure what that has with America??
            Maybe you feel their “Culture” should be allowed to spread over here. That all of our laws and values and morals be put aside because the Muslim Brotherhood has the best idea for us. And b4 you call ME brainwashed, you’d better read up a bit more on Islamic ideals and purposes. They have been saying this for a LONG time.
            USA is the Great Satan to them, Russia being the Lesser Satan.
            Or maybe we are all looking at this wrong and you really DO prefer Sharia law and think the Christian Faith should be wiped out. You seem to think Child rape is ok, you ignore the literal Havoc they create in EVERY country they’ve invaded, and yes I say Invaded, not Emigrated, or Fled to but Invaded. 1st they invade, then they start acting just like back home and EVERYONE is supposed to back off and say nothing because that’s the Muslim way and we are Islamophobic if we object.
            Why is it the Left-Wing cannot READ what is happening in EVERY nation these “People” have invaded? WHY are we supposed to be PC and hush it up instead of prosecuting this filth as it is deserved?

          • AKLady2015

            Our nation is a country of immigrants.
            Our culture is a composite of many.

            Islam has been part of America since long before it became a nation.
            The frist casualty of our Revolution was a Muslim, escaped slave.

            If you took the time to explore fact, you would find that there are “Christian” preachers who consider America to be the “Great Satan” They just do not use those same words.

          • AKLady2015

            I have some ver bad news for you: Trump has not been elcted President. The Electoral College elects the Presidenr. They will not vote until Dec. 18.

          • Congratulations! You’ve just won the Nobel Putz Prize for uttering the most ludicrous, ridiculous, insane, stupid, idiotic, bogus and fallacious comment online.

            Anyone of the other 16 candidates would have trounced Hillary WAY BEFORE the late-breaking WikiLeaks and FBI revelations broke and doomed Clinton’s campaign.

            Sheer genius? Trump ran the WORST campaign in history! Never had a ground game. He had to use the RNC’s ground game to save his a** going into the final month.

            He constantly whined about delegates being “Stolen” from caucus states (like Colorado) because he was too damned stupid and lazy to understand the differences between them and primary states AND never had anyone set foot in those states to speak to the delegates (which is what you need to do in caucus states).

            The Media MADE Trump the GOP candidate by giving him $2 billion in free TV air time and from 60% to 80% of the coverage during the political cycle (effectively drowning out all of the other, more qualified candidates).

            Without the media, Trump’s campaign in 2016 would have ended just like his 2012 campaign with him dropping out and looking like an idiot.

            In short, he won because Hillary was the worst Democratic candidate in history and because a lot of gullible people bought into his bulls**t.

            If he surrounds himself with very capable people and lets them make the decisions, we may survive his Presidency after all.

          • Jerry

            But Trump WON!!!
            You sound like any other Monday morning quarterback. No matter how he did it he won. He won because he woke up this country. He is/was not a politician. He didn’t have all the answers. He spoke from the heart and it touched us. It touched those of us who want to drain the swamp. It touch those of us who want to protect the sovereignty of this country. It touch those of us who do not want globalism, one world government, open borders, and free trade.

          • Harry J Schaubel

            You’re absolutely right!!!!! We should have elected another MSM RINO Establishment President. How dare we think there’s a chance to rebuild our country and get rid of the corruption. How dare we think that maybe a NON-Politician might do better. And which RINO did you think would have beaten Hillary????????
            Better yet, Which do you think wouldn’t already be on the Clinton Payroll?
            Yes. We should be ashamed because we think a Business Man has a better chance of negotiating our nations trade deals. And to think he actually wants to drain the DC Swamp!! Put all those Lifer Politocrats out to pasture and start over again.

            Then again, maybe all you Whining Libs should STFU, accept you lost the election and get on with your life. And Heaven forbid you might actually find life better.

          • AKLady2015

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

        • Harry J Schaubel

          Never happen. And you can see they’re already clamoring for a Clinton Pardon, so she’ll have a clean slate to start with. We need Mr. Trump to eliminate the PC BS that has contaminated this country, and give the Globalist’s a 1-way ticket out, starting with George Soros.

      • Jean Langford M.

        “COMMON CORE” DUMB DOWN WILL BE HISTORY VERY SOON…THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL BE OUT OF OUR KIDS SCHOOL SYSTEM SOONER THAN ANY ONE DARES TO THINK…COLLEGES ARE GOING TO BE FUN TO WATCH…YOUR RIGHT “DAVID….” THE BRAIN WASHING IS GOING TO STOP…..”HAS TO STOP…”

        • David Tierney

          What needs to be done is rid this Country of George Soros. The sooner the better. There is plenty of brainwashing going on but Soros is buying the riots. These aren’t protests, these are riots and he is the great instigator. Obama and Hillary are merely the puppets. Soros is Gepetto to Hillary and Obama’s Pinochio.

          • Jerry

            Why is it the rich can get away with so much. The riots he financed to disrupt the Trump rallies was illegal. Nothing is done about it. I’m so happy that Trump got elected. At least this country has a chance at recovery with him.

          • Harry J Schaubel

            Nothing WILL be done about it either because Soros WANTS it to continue. If he can’t do it tamely thru a Liberal President, then he will do it thru violence and destruction, and these stupid CHILDREN are helping him. We’ve already heard a number of protesters saying they were hired by Soros or the MoveOn.org which is Soros. These spoiled brats are the blind for the paid thugs who are causing so much damage and destruction.

      • wellilltellya

        I heard soros is paying 35 dollars an hour for people to protest ? is that not what is starting civil war so barry can INVOKE MARSHAL LAW

        • Harry J Schaubel

          No. According to the Craigslist ads he’s offering $18/hour or $1500/week, with OT and Drivers incentives.
          Do a search for Protesters/Activists for hire. You’ll see a list of ads on Craigslist, and the cities named where you’ll protest. Those cities are where all the riots are going on, now. FBI needs to make Craigslist cough up the names of those taking out these ads and arrest them for Inciting to Riot which I “Think” is a Federal Crime. Then offer some of those famous immunity deals to get them to swear, UNDER OATH, who is actually paying them. THEN arrest them.

      • William R. Sullens

        George Soros should be prosecuted if it is proven that he is the person perpetuating these riots and financing those who are inciting the rioting. Additionally, he should be shamed for taking advantage of these young people’s inability to cope with adversity.

        • Harry J Schaubel

          Shame from someone who sold out his own people during WWII and had absolutely no qualms or even any feeling of guilt?? Someone who thinks he’s GOD?? Listen to the 60 minutes interview and he’ll tell you right up front.

          • William R. Sullens

            Thanks Harry. I have listened to the “60 Minutes” interview with Soros, plus several other things. I wish others would listen to that and more things about Soros, as he is one bad apple. Your perspective on him is right on.

      • truthseeker

        Yah! and Donald Trump asked President Obama to speak out about these Paid Protestors. Didn’t happen, but Trump as asked by Sixty Minutes to speak out and he did immediately in regards to the push back .

      • Triple J Jackson

        Exactly! More proof that Clinton only cares for herself. Her and Obama should be speaking against the Riots every day. But they are not. All you heard was is Trump going to accept the results and tell his people to act right. Well now it’s the other way around and Everyone can clearly See how they act. Liberal democraps the most Racist, hateful and bigoted group of people in this world. Yet they are the first to call everyone else exactly what they truly are inside.

        • David Tierney

          Yes and yesterday I saw a journalist ask, “When is Trump going to ask the protesters to settle down and come together as a Country?”
          To that I say, CBS has him asking people to refrain from protesting and to come together, but they held that tape for 2 or more days. But I feel it is not Trump’s responsibility anyway but Obama’s and Clinton’s responsibility to tell the knuckleheads to knock it off and stop the bs. This is Obama’s way of continuing to divide the Country as he’s been doing for the past 7 years and 10 months. Why would these idiots listen to Trump when Obama, Clinton and Soros have been telling the rioters to ignore President elect Trump?

      • AKLady2015

        Here we go again, Soros, Soros, Soros ..

        Why don’t you take a long look at the Koch Brothers.
        Start with the refineries Fred Koch built for the Nazi using concentration camp poisoners. Koch also built the Europaeische Tanklager und Transport A.G. refinery, also known as EuroTank, which was an important piece of Hitler’s war machine. Don’t leave out the work he did for the Soviet Union. Oh, lets not forget that Fred Koch was a founder of the John Birch Society.

      • Harry J Schaubel

        Actually she DID say something. She told them to “don’t stop fighting”!

    • Well said – but is the anti-Trump bunch smart enough to understand? And, are the ones who have sufficient intelligence to understand going to accept it or refuse just to hassle Trump in his efforts to help America? These are the questions that are bothersome – are these opponents more interested in winning against Trump and damaging America, rather than helping, understanding and working together in an honest way to help America succeed? America is being attacked from within by those against what America stands for; these people are dangerous to our country.

      • David Tierney

        I strongly believe many in the GOP in Congress with try to derail Trump’s plans for their own benefit. It wouldn’t surprise me if some members will be paid off by Soros to ruin Trump, thus securing a Demorat in the White House in 2020. And God forbid they are planning on putting Michelle Obama in the campaign. This country has gone to shit in the past 28 years. The proof is the Bush’s all voting for or supporting Hillary. They should be kicked out of the GOP. Shame on all Republican members who don’t support Trump for the next 4 years. Man up, support your candidate or get the hell out of Congress. Hopefully we can vote out the dead wood in the next elections.

    • Jean Langford M.

      YOUR RIGHT JERRY….IF THEY PULL THAT TITTY FOR TACKY CRAP >>>TRUMP WILL SMACK U.S. COMPANIES WITH SO MUCH RED TAPE THEY WILL HAVE TO MOVE THEIR BUSINESSES BACK TO THE U.S. AND PROVIDE THE JOBS TO U.S. CITIZENS THEY TOOK AWAY WHEN THEY MOVED TO CHINA….THAT WOULD BE FOR STARTERS…SO MUCH FOR CHINESE JOBS AT HOME…THEY FAIL TO REMEMBER WHY U.S. BUSINESSES WERE ALLOWED TO GO TO CHINA IN THE FIRST PLACE….TO GIVE THEIR CITIZENS A CHANCE AT DEMOCRACY…WEEEEELLLLL…THE COMMUNIST ELITE STOPPED ANY ADVANCEMENT IN THAT AREA…..REMEMBER THE TANKS IN BEJING??? REMEMBER THE SLAUGHTER OF THEIR OWN CITIZENS???…WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN IF THE U.S. COMPANIES PULLED OUT IN TOTAL….YEAH….JUST THINK WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ALL THOSE FOLKS WITH NO JOBS…..JUST WHAT WOULD THEY CONSIDER DOING….THE CHINESE COMMUNIST SHOULD LINGER OVER THAT QUESTION FOR AWHILE….YEAH…

      • David Tierney

        They would reinstitute the 1 child per family rule for starters. I just hope, if we go to war with China, that Russia will be on our side. Or else, we are totally screwed. But these fools rioting, need to be dealt with. We are still the laughing stock but countries are not laughing as hard now that Trump has been elected.

      • truthseeker

        Better yet ! Open our Markets to Fresh Entrepreneur’s who could build a better Kind of Car ( Like the Saturn) . We always have grown with new interventions.

    • PatriotGal

      Jerry, you bet and they are the ones who are scared because they know President-Elect Trump is a shrewdly keen businessman who knows what he’s doing – not something to which they are accustomed when dealing with the USA. Their gravy train is running dry and they desperately need the USA to buy their products or their economy goes south.

      • truthseeker

        China has built an Island for Military purposes, so before we negotiate terms in regards to the Market . We must first do a Blockade. Pull our Soldiers from South Korea and use them on our Borders. For over Fifty Years we have protected South Korea and for what ?

    • William R. Sullens

      I have to agree. China is not a U.S. ally and their manufacturing would suffer greatly if we or they turned off the faucet. It may be true about the tariff, however, if it is, the 150 days can be extended or re-activated once the time has expired. As the old saying goes, the Chinese may be “cutting of their nose to spite their face” in this regard. We need these manufacturing jobs in the good old U.S.A., so we will see who comes to the bargaining table first.

      • mrpoohead

        $20/hour over $20/week. That is what talks and that is what will be heard. Bye, bye manufacturing.

        • William R. Sullens

          That is why Ford is keeping their assembly plant in Kentucky and not moving it to Mexico and Apple is moving their I-phone manufacturing back to the U.S..

          • mrpoohead

            Drivel. No substance – just speculation by the lunatic alt-right media. Specifically produced for “RetardsRuS”. Ford wasn’t even moving. Apple gone and not coming back. Trump can claim all sorts, but reality is another world.

            Credit were it’s due – his PR and BS is priceless! Might even make the US sound better than W Europe et al – well they’ve always tried to do that, reality is, it ain’t even close – was in the 50’s and 60’s, if white, but since then. Forget it!

    • truthseeker

      We can just stop all trade, altogether with China and send their ships back., as far as their Students, well we are overcrowded as it is. A lot of their stuff is Junk and they could care less about us as Customers.

      • Jerry

        We have a fifty billion deficit with China every year. That fifty billion would be better spent here. If I were Trump instead of a Tariff I would prohibit all goods manufactured by American Companies overseas from being sold in the US. To sell it here they would have to build it here.

        • photoguy1951

          I like how you think

        • truthseeker

          You always want to start with a warning shot. First it is a Tariff and then as we all know they will not bow to the United States, cause they are a very proud people, so you then take the next step. Place an embargo on all goods.

          • Jerry

            I do not know much about international trade, but maybe what we should consider and Trump should push is: Buy American made in the USA products.

          • AKLady2015

            Huge problem — the number od items still manufactured in America is very small. You can buy imports or go without.

          • truthseeker

            Trump is off to a good start. Ford is keeping their Company in Kentucky and Mr. Trump is not even sworn in yet. I would love to of known what Mr. Trump spoke about with the Japanize leader that meet with him. We need to deport George Soros and take his money, like Mr. Soros’s father did to his own people during the Nazi occupation . Evil Man. We could really build a nice wall with Mr. Soros $ 24 Billion dollars.

          • Jerry

            At the very least Soros along with Hillary should be charged with inciting riots. I see the direction Trump is heading and I like it.

      • Harry J Schaubel

        We’re supposed to be concerned because they’re going to take back the students that are studying here?????? Why can’t they study at home? And how many have been given time off from school to join the protests?

    • AKLady2015

      Oh, you are so wrong. I can’t begun to count the ways … Pharmaceuticals, medical equipment, food, electrical machinery, clothing, footwear, furniture, appliances, cars …

      • Jerry

        I’m not sure what you mean by so wrong. We have a trade deficit with China of over fifty billions. A pill that cost $100.00 in the US probably cost $0.50 in China.

        • AKLady2015

          Well, you see it is this way: You can buy foreign nade good or yu can do without.

          Very few things are still made in America.

          • Jerry

            And there lies the problem. We need to start manufacturing again. Make America Great Again.

          • AKLady2015

            You are 100% correct, however, weaning America away from cheap Asian goods has proved impossible for the last three Administrations. NAFTA did not work. The TTP will not work. America is a throw-away society. No one wants to pay for things that will last.

          • Jerry

            I’m an optimist. The main reason we elected Trump is because he said he could. Everyone else were defeatist. We knew he wasn’t giving much specifics, but we knew he would try. We knew he meant it.

          • AKLady2015

            Trump has not been elected.
            We the People do not elect a Presdent.

            The Eletoral College meets Dec. 18.

            These Presidents did not have the “popular” vote:
            John Quincy Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison and George W. Bush

          • Jerry

            You are right again…

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you.
            Now, get out there and convince people to start buying only American made goods.

          • Harry J Schaubel

            He actually gave more specifics than Clinton did. She spent the bulk of her campaign trying to prove he was wrong for the office instead of proving she was right!
            And manufactured victims, from the one who CRUSHED her husbands victims. OH oh oh… Trump says he touchs and kisses women without permission. Oh Oh, I am so offended. Let’s put the Clintons back in office. I’m sure there are a LOT of new Interns that Bill has to meet.

  • cutterguy

    More room for our students. Also stop the Chinese women giving birth in the U.S.A. to dual citizenship babies as future anchor babies.

    • American Me

      I have said for many years that Birthright Citizenship should be stopped.Pregnant women come here just for that purpose,to have their baby on America.Then they are entitled to all kinds of benefits.We must end this stupid policy.It is a policy that has out lived its original purpose and now is just a burden on our country.

      • cutterguy

        The original amendment was not intended for this purpose. It has been perverted by idiots to stack the deck in elections.

  • Martin Randall Higley

    some things to consider a little bit but as for the students well absolutely fine with me fewer there are the less our technology leaks out.

    • bobnstuff

      Colleges like Chinese students, they pay full tuition. These aren’t our poor high debt loaded American students. These people have money to spend.

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