Cruz tops Trump in new national GOP poll

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February 18, 2016

Donald Trump has been knocked from his perch atop the GOP presidential primary field by Sen. Ted Cruz, according to a new national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Wednesday evening.

The poll showed Sen. Cruz of Texas leading the New York businessman by two percentage points, 28-26, among Republican primary voters. Cruz’ lead is within the poll’s 4.9 percent margin of error.

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio came in third, garnering 17 percent, followed by Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Dr. Ben Carson and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.

The survey was conducted following Saturday’s debate in South Carolina.

The NBC/Wall Street Journal poll’s results contradict a Qunnipiac survey released earlier Wednesday that showed Trump lapping the rest of the Republican field with 39 percent compared to second-place candidate Marco Rubio’s 19 percent.

  • The Redhawk

    OOPS….I expect another THREAT of another FRIVOLOUS LAW suit from T-RUMP ( aka Horse’s a-s) over the fact that NBC and the WSJ got hIm Demoted to NUMBER TWO…Anything just to avoid acting presidential and giving REAL solutions about the Country problems in detail besides DUMBASSED Loud statemnets for Hedalines

    • Frankdidit

      I see you are a Cruz fan. I guess what he did to Carson in Iowa does not matter. Get your head out of your?

      • The Redhawk

        Better get NEW GLASSES……I Still am waiting to SEE the FULL Story by and about Donald the CLOWN who so far has never given any Specific answers to all of his ( apparent BS) promises of :” I’ll do this and that..” and never said ” HOW”…..and after seeing T-RUMP go purple and barking like a thin Skinned Seal last night it NOW makes me wonder how badly a THICK SKINNED SHILLERRY will have him CHOKE at any DEBATE now try to get some FRESH air for your Impacted head…..CRUZ ?? May be… RUBIO?? may be??/ KASICH…Best???

        • Frankdidit

          Thank you for the bull shit reply. It is always nice to hear from a moron. By the way GETOFF THE TRACKS, THE TRUMP TRAIN IS COMING.

          • The Redhawk

            OH yeah TOOT TOOT the CLOWN train of T-RUMP/Christie the NEW YOURK/NEW JERSEY circus is Coming to Town to LOSE to that Other NEW YORK SOW SHIL-LIAR-RY in the National Election….TOOOT TOOT…..
            W hiskey
            T ango
            F oxtrot
            HAPPY??? …

  • BOC

    Sen. Cruz of Canada is leading himself right to court in the POTUS backyard:

    The Constitution requires presidents be “natural-born citizens”.

    I have said this from the onset he’s not eligible. I made the argument that if Canadian born Ted Cruz is eligible, than my associate and former colleague Gov. emeritus, Jennifer Granholm could have continued on with her political career by running for the highest office in the land, the United States of America.

    Republicans are arrogant, fickle and think they are above the law (constitution). They can change the rules as they see fit to benefit their objectives, as well as, their agendas. They don’t care who they run over alone the way, to reach their objectives and goals.

    The definition of “natural-born citizen” is quite clear, born in the USA by natural-born citizen parents. Republicans cried foul when the rumor mill started about the possibility of Granholm testing the waters. She’s Canadian born cried the ‘peanut gallery’.

    Then they tried similar tactics on POTUS 44 with the “birther mantra” and wouldn’t let it go. They persistently kept at it in their attempt(s), trying to turn a lie into truth. They twisted it, messaged it and continually uttered it. Now it has come back to bite them. Cruz’s problem facing him ‘Natural Vs Made,’ this foolishness about what’s required is equivalent to just ignore the law we’ll change it in court. Clearly, there is no middle ground interpretation or debate. The U.S. constitution is clear, not fuzzy like some conveniently like to say. There is no vague language present in it.

    I don’t think we should be attempting to rewriting the law to favor the so-called living constitution, this is no minor matter to amend. Because of a handful of ‘PAC’ of supporters with personal motives to succeed, they find themselves at a cross-road.

    As for the majority of constitutional law scholars who’ve written about the meaning of “natural-born citizen,” agreeing that if a court were to rule on this question, it ought to rule in favor of Cruz? I’d like to see that list of scholars? Heck! Let’s do this. Have the POTUS 44 write an opinion on the “natural-born citizen” clause in the constitution, because he’s also a constitutional law scholar/professor.

    These conservatives, which include their tea party surrogates, keep harkening back to the 1700 and 1800’s to justify and/or support their “sense of the Congress” resolutions which has no force in effect and ‘weak’ suggestions and positions, which are moot points, indeed. This is the 21st century, why don’t they ‘come-to-terms’ with it and join us.

    Ironic, isn’t it, how the Presidents own State and County is challenging the ‘Carnival Barkers’ natural-born citizenship status. “…. for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap [Gal. 6:7 KJV]. Ted Cruz is his own tormentor, no one else.

  • Joanne

    Too bad Trump never gives any specifics on all his bs, it’s all one big vague mystery!

  • BOC

    What? Really does it matter, considering this:

    The Constitution requires presidents be “natural-born citizens”.

    I have said this from the onset he’s not eligible. I made the argument that if Canadian born Ted Cruz is eligible, than my associate and former colleague Gov. emeritus, Jennifer Granholm could have continued on with her political career by running for the highest office in the land, the United States of America.

    Republicans are arrogant, fickle and think they are above the law (constitution). They can change the rules as they see fit to benefit their objectives, as well as, their agendas. They don’t care who they run over alone the way, to reach their objectives and goals.

    The definition of “natural-born citizen” is quite clear, born in the USA by natural-born citizen parents. Republicans cried foul when the rumor mill started about the possibility of Granholm testing the waters. She’s Canadian born cried the ‘peanut gallery’.

    Then they tried similar tactics on POTUS 44 with the “birther mantra” and wouldn’t let it go. They persistently kept at it in their attempt(s), trying to turn a lie into truth. They twisted it, messaged it and continually uttered it. Now it has come back to bite them. Cruz’s problem facing him ‘Natural Vs Made,’ this foolishness about what’s required is equivalent to just ignore the law we’ll change it in court. Clearly, there is no middle ground interpretation or debate. The U.S. constitution is clear, not fuzzy like some conveniently like to say. There is no vague language present in it.

    I don’t think we should be attempting to rewriting the law to favor the so-called living constitution, this is no minor matter to amend. Because of a handful of ‘PAC’ of supporters with personal motives to succeed, they find themselves at a cross-road.

    As for the majority of constitutional law scholars who’ve written about the meaning of “natural-born citizen,” agreeing that if a court were to rule on this question, it ought to rule in favor of Cruz? I’d like to see that list of scholars? Heck! Let’s do this. Have the POTUS 44 write an opinion on the “natural-born citizen” clause in the constitution, because he’s also a constitutional law scholar/professor.

    These conservatives, which include their tea party surrogates, keep harkening back to the 1700 and 1800’s to justify and/or support their “sense of the Congress” resolutions which has no force in effect and ‘weak’ suggestions and positions, which are moot points, indeed. This is the 21st century, why don’t they ‘come-to-terms’ with it and join us.

    Ironic, isn’t it, how the Presidents own State and County is challenging the ‘Carnival Barkers’ natural-born citizenship status. “…. for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap [Gal. 6:7 KJV]. Ted Cruz is his own tormentor, no one else.

  • pete G

    And i say to the lying liberal media——- BULL- SHIP.

  • Mark Davison

    Assuming we even HAVE elections…it’s gotta be Cruz…or the Constitution Party candidate

    • Frankdidit

      And you really believe a poll conducted by WHAT NBC, Please tell me you are smarter than what you posted!!!!!!!!!!

    • BOC

      Al Gore was the closest we ever wanted to get to anybody from Tennessee and that was too *#^close.

    • BOC

      Ted will not survive the trial. You better start making adjustments.

  • cowboy

    I believe Trump will still be nominated, regardless of what the polls say. We need someone to stand up against the establishment in Washington, and I believe he will do just that.

    • BOC

      Correction!
      You mean you need someone to stand up against Hillary.

      I know, you were getting ahead of yourself.

  • TAM44

    The RNC or as I call them ROTTEN NASTY COWARDS hates Mr. Trump because he’s not a obama butt kisser like they are. mr. trump is his own man and will not be a puppet for these rino’s or should I say closet democrats. No more bushes, clinton’s obama’s or insiders like cruz, rubio, kasich, bush, Mr. Carson is dead in the water without any oars or cell phone to call for help. I’ll be backing Mr. Trump all the way to the white house.

  • CBUJAN

    The Republican party has been self destructed for years that’s why Trump is so popular he has given hope for the American people. Now whether you believe him or not that is for you to decide. Haven knows we do need a change of the guard. I hate career politicians.

    • BOC

      You mean hope for some conservative people. You forget, President Obama won re-election by 5 million votes.

  • kbfallon

    This is similar to what Cruddy Cruz pulled on Carson in Iowa–to try to get Trumps supporters over to his side before the SC results…and then after say it wasn’t my fault–he’s a snake in the grass and speaks with forked tongue—NO Cuban Canadian for president in this country if we can help it–he knows all the dirty tricks and is using them.

  • rayhause

    Whether the poll is accurate or not, what we can say with certainty, people are starting to realize that all Trump can sell is liberal snake oil and they are starting to stop buying it. Trump is a flimflam liberal that will destroy our party.

    • Frankdidit

      I suppose you support Cruz, the one who gave Dr. Carson the shaft. He is starting to you Hillary’s tactic’s. Lie, cheat and throw more BS.

      • rayhause

        I’m a TP conservative and will not compromise my principles for someone who is as Liberal as Hillary.

        • Frankdidit

          Nor will I

          • rayhause

            What are you, one of Trumps cross over Democrats, they have principles, Support Planned Parenthood, Partial birth abortion, on and on.

          • Frankdidit

            Oh, I see you are one of those who wants to keep supporting children out of wed lock. I am and always will be a republican. I also believe the abortion issue is not something that should be a subject in politics.

            I believe no one should tell a women what she has to do with her body, especially the government.

            And as far as principles, if you think Hillary has principles you must have been asleep for the last 20 years.
            Just remember ” Voting for Hillary (aka Hildebeast) is like eating a turd because it looks like a toosie Roll”

          • rayhause

            You are a liberal, your view of Abortion does not belong to the conservatives. You’re a cross over Democrat.

          • BOC

            What you and others (some conservatives) believe on this subject, as it relates to what people feel on this issue is totally misguided.

            You can’t just ‘pigeon-hole’ people based on party affiliation, because you think that’s what they believe.

            That’s just not the real-world, believe me. Real careless, indeed.

          • rayhause

            Anyone who is a Democrat represents not one thing that will defend anything of America. You stand for the government to run your life and probably a Bernie Sanders Socialist.

          • BOC

            Think before posting. What you have here is a bunch of nothing, just rambling.

          • Frankdidit

            And you are a dip shit with little in the way of brains. No reply necessary, it would only prove my point. Thank you very much.

          • BOC

            You start off talking with intelligence, then……. You can’t keep talking this way and expect people to take you seriously. You compromise your threads in this manner, trust me.

          • Frankdidit

            I trust God and myself. All others matter none

          • Frankdidit

            What people think of my replies is not important to me. The truth, no matter how it is exposed, is what I and many others believe is the truth.
            seriously!

          • BOC

            He can’t get past the constitution or the Illinois court. I think the Annihilator may be right, Canadian infiltration.

        • BOC

          What principals are the tea party trying to claim. That they will eat their young in order to survive? We know they will gut and destroy the government that protects them. We know they will attempt to take the law in their hands and threaten the very institution that protects their liberty and freedom e.g. the Bundy clan -Neveda & Oregon standoff.

          Cliven Bundy to be extradited to Nevada to face federal charges in 2014 standoff. Authorities accused Bundy of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, assault on a federal law officer by use of a deadly and dangerous weapon, interference with commerce by extortion and obstruction of justice.There are 16 felony charges pending in that case involving five individuals.

          Old man “Bundy had trespassed on the public lands for over 20 years, refusing to obtain the legally-required permits or pay the required fees to keep and graze his cattle on the land.”

          Bundy, 69, he looks much older, could spend the rest of his life in prison if convicted. All because of his misinterpretation of constitutional law. Along with his prejudice and misunderstanding of what Sovereign state means and how it applies to our federal government.

          Ryan and Ammon Bundy, who led the takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon — were indicted by a federal grand jury this past Wednesday, Feb.17. on federal felony counts. They were brainwashed by daddy and look where it’s leading them. I hope it’s an equal opportunity prison.

          Most people are familiar with the legal principle that ignorance of the law is no excuse.

          • rayhause

            BOC, you are a left wing Democrat that is obviously on the dole of the people and once we conservatives get control we will take this country back.
            Bundy was protecting the rights of he and many ranchers through out Nevada, obviously are are also not knowledgeable to all of those years he and his family have operated ranching on those lands.
            If you checked into the situation in Oregon you would find the government was trying to push all of those ranchers off their lands. Further, check out the vast mineral resources in the area question, some of those lands were part of a Clinton sale to Russia.
            You sound like a full fledged Democrat.

          • BOC

            I’m straight down the middle and Bundy is toast. Stop reading those under ground tabloids from the drug stores and outposts.

    • BOC

      You’re in denial. Your party is already in ‘implosion mode’. It started when the tea party came to the surface. You’re conservative leadership could no longer control them and decided to embrace them through a deal Boehner made and it backfired bigtime.

      • rayhause

        You know nothing about the relationship between the TP and Boehner, it was the conservatives who finally sent him out the door. What we will do is stick to our principles and not buy into some flimflam snake oil liberal salesman.

        • BOC

          No Boehner made a ‘boner’ when he bought the Leadership position from you ‘bottom-feeders’. The party’s been downhill ever since.

  • disqus_MZe2ymfHQj

    NBC Wall Street Journals Lying Poll to help deceive the people.
    Lying Socialist Bastards of America–NBC

    • kbfallon

      same as Cruddy Cruz did in Iowa to Carson–he’s definitely in on this sneaky lying crap.

    • BOC

      I’m sure you’re feelings are resonating to the masses. I can count them on one hand. Dude restrain yourself so that people will read what you have to say.

  • Seedman

    More truth is coming out on Don Juvenile Trump. After 911 Don got in
    line to collect $150 thousand dollars as a “small” business owner,
    though none of his businesses were damaged. This man’s character is
    “small” indeed. It is falling like a condemned demolition building. Ted
    Cruz possesses the altruism to be a great two term president.
    Intelligence, resolve, constitutional understanding and discernment to
    make worthy Supreme Court nominations.

    • kbfallon

      Trouble is -Cruz is a scumbag.

      • Seedman

        After 911 Don Juvenile Trump gave a pittance to help those families suffering in New York City and was absent from memorial services. However, Don wrote out a check for over a million dollars to the Clinton Foundation. Rubio is good at licking his lips. Ted Cruz is the best leader for America!

        • BOC

          Not the America I live in. This guy has a problem obvious to most who are aware. He rants first, talks second and thinks last, if at all.

    • BOC

      What type of seed[man] did you say you were planting because I’m reading the end result. Trump collected $150(M)? Where, what and when, did Cruz specifically demonstrate true ‘altruism?’

      Where, what, and when did this guy make serious decision to do something notable and beneficial?

      “constitutional understanding?”
      If their was any ounce of truth whatsoever in what you claim here, we would not be having this subject as our blog topic of the day. The word “natural born citizen” spells this out. In short! We wouldn’t be talking about the ‘carnival Barker’ citizenship at all. Speaking of his citizenship status. How versatile do you think he is because between Cook County and trying to run an election is quite the distraction, don’t you think?

      “discernment?”
      People use this word too loosely. Very few really know what it means because they are the only ones who possess it [Heb. 4:12].

  • Kim

    Out of 10 polls only one shows that. Trump will win

  • jcadla

    This is tripe. In all other polls for today and yesterday…ad infinitum…, Trump is far ahead of everyone. Take a look…http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

  • Henry J. Gilbertson

    PI – – on Cruz and Rubicube

  • Webb

    #WithOutCruzYouLose….

    • Frankdidit

      Get off the tracks, the trump train is coming Webb.

      • Webb

        Frankdidit,
        That’s the perception at this time, at present I ‘m in the Caboose.
        I will support Trump if he makes the General!
        ☆☆☆

        • BOC

          Count those stars again. Because that’s it, no more.

      • BOC

        Yeah! but he can go no farther than the station.

    • BOC

      He will not survive court. Scalia is gone, may he rest in peace.

  • Robert Early

    Vote for your favorite candidate; but do not believe the media, the polls, or Obama. Also, be careful in trusting Glenn Beck. He’s either finally lost his mind completely, or the Mormon god is not the same as the Christian God.

    • kbfallon

      The money and fame made him Lord in his mind.

  • used_to_be_a_liberal

    Yup, sure thing. Now, for, according to NBC polls, the best movies of the last century were Deep Throat, in second place was Debbie Does Dallas, and in third place, Last Tango in Paris.

  • TOM

    What a Phoney Poll, NBC come on you interviewed 400 people. Every creditable poll I have looked at shows Trump leading anywhere from 20% to 39% nationwide. Again trying to sway the vote. A poll I just looked at by a smaller news channel, show Trumps up by 285000 votes over Cruz. NBC quit playing your little fuzzy math games

    • BOC

      Hey! Turnaround is fair play. They’ve been doing the same thing to Hillary since day-one and didn’t hear anybody crying foul. And you all know it’s by design in order to distort the playing field. It hasn’t been fair since the 90’s. Year 2000 started this ‘bait and switch’ era in politics, just ask Al ‘climate change’ Gore.

      • TOM

        BOC Good Morning, I tried to reply to your post on Watergate, but lost it, don’t know what happened. By the way I do think, and can read. Not your common poster child here. The Corruptness of everything has definitely got out of control. Do you get a lot of feed back from Redman? That person is a freak. Best part of him must be on his moms leg. Most polls are distorted to push ratings. News Channels should be banned from Society, anyway off to work, long day ahead, you have a good one!!!!

        • BOC

          Sorry Tom, for the delay. I’ve got to keep the lights on, if you know what I mean. My apologies for making false assumptions. I try to be cognizant of this type of behavior and not get caught-up in it, which can easily happen on these threads. I do not recall a Redman. Funny though, my office is starting to get calls from the (202) WDC area code. The caller leaves no messages and when my people call the number they get, no greetings, but told to leave a message and phone number.

          I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding the polls and the media influence. As long as we have a gullible people, they will be unreliable [Fox News] and a misleading source /force that the few that are left, believe in. This used to be the complete opposite and was most dangerous to the middle-classes, indeed. The majority use to feed off these tabloid and talking head journalists and bought into the skewed polls and survey’s as gospel, until Senator, now POTUS 44 came along. The second term re-elections was enough indication that the majority of Americans woke-up to the fact that they had been hoodwinked long enough.

          The Nobel Laureate, won by 5 million votes over Mitt Romney.

  • 123terrywbradley456

    Man, I hope it is true. That Democrat buffoon Trump would not be electable over Hillary. Trump is a crony capitalist who has made his billions by buying the influence of Democrat politicians, which he readily admits. I don’t understand why any conservative would vote for Trump as the nominee. The nonsense that he was the first to bring the problem of open borders is total BS. I’m a West Texas rancher and Gov. Perry for 12 years has been screaming at the top of his lungs about the influx of illegals and the Federal government ignoring the problem. In fact, the border patrol on the Rio Grande was stationed 100 miles from the River and the Administrations, Bush and Obama, ignored the pleas of West Texas ranchers and Gov. Perry to at least put the Border Patrol on the Rio Grande. Trump and the so-called conservative media, Fox News, destroyed Gov. Perry by calling him stupid. I’m in my 80s and I voted Republican in national elections all my life. I’ll not vote for Trump or Hillary. Trump is so narcissistic that I’m afraid he would be exactly like Obama. I don’t think Trump has ever read the Constitution. I doubt if he has read “Two” Corinthians.

    • PatriotGal

      123Terry, I have always loved TX – never lived there, but love it. Sad to hear that you would not vote for the candidate of choice of we the people. Mr Trump will build the fence and because of Felipe Calderone’s response, it will be 10 feet taller! Is Mr. Trump perfect? No, but he had every right to work/speak against any candidate who spoke against him and that includes Gov. Perry. It is a two-way street. Have you read Mr Trump’s books, especially The Art of the Deal? Perhaps you should. He is a skilled negotiator and that is precisely what we need in the WH. Someone who will not bend over and kowtow to the ILLEGALS, to Iran, to N. Korea, etc. We need someone who is strong and capable of making sound decisions because he will surround himself will outstanding people in their fields and that includes our military. Mr. Trump supports our military, our vets and our LEOs, firefighters, first responders, etc.. Please reconsider your decision not to vote for Mr. Trump should he be the nominee. My husband and I (we are nearly your age) support him because he loves America and so do we. It is time we win again, and together we make America great!

      • BOC

        “”I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words,” -Trumpster-

        Trump will not build this 700 mile fence. According to a Government Accountability Office 2009 report, the cost to build 1 mile of fencing at the border averaged between $2.8 million and $3.9 million. But that figure may be low relative to costs for future sections of the wall. It’s based only on the first 220 miles fenced and does not include other factors, such as topography, transportation logistics in harder-to-reach areas (i.e. road-building and earth and drainage work), labor costs, land acquisition costs and surveillance equipment.

        Please note: migration expert Marc Rosenblum said fencing in remote areas of the U.S. isn’t likely to achieve the goal of a more secure border.

        “There is a reason people don’t build fences in the middle of nowhere; it doesn’t change the enforcement profile in the middle of nowhere,” the migration expert said. “The existing fence has worked because of where it is, near populated areas. Both Democrats and Republicans have testified that they have the fencing they need,” Rosenblum said. You gettin’ this, Patriot Gal? Don’t put your calculator away just yet.

        The GAO estimate for one difficult section of fencing near San Diego was $16 million.

        The actual cost for the rest of the border wall (roughly 1,300 miles) could be as high as $16 million per mile, with a total price tag of $15 billion to $25 billion. Rosenblum said the $15 billion low-end estimate is “probably an underestimate,” because the parts that have yet to be fenced are the most difficult — the most dense and arid. At $16 million per mile and with 1,300 miles to secure, the estimated cost would be $12 billion, and the price of private land acquisitions and maintenance of fencing could push that total cost higher.

        The U.S. government would have to pay to maintain the wall, which could cost as much as $750 million a year, according to an analysis conducted by Politico. And then if it wanted to man it with personnel, that would be an additional cost — border patrol has an operating budget of $1.4 billion for 21,000 agents.

        In addition to the 2009 GAO estimate of price per mile, more recent spending data is now available from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). From fiscal 2007 through fiscal 2014, $5.9 billion in total appropriations was awarded by Congress to the Border Security Fencing, Infrastructure, and Technology Account (BSFIT). The account covers fencing, along with associated infrastructure, including roads to install and maintain fencing and cameras to monitor fencing. Wow! This project is adding up. I think we’re going to put you on post duty, Patriot Gal.

        Eric said the most of the BSFIT money and fence installation occurred between fiscal 2007 and fiscal 2010. During that period, DHS installed 507 miles of new fencing, with $4.5 billion appropriated to the BSFIT account. If all the money went to new fencing during this period, the price per mile would be $8.9 million. While there is a discrepancy between the BSFIT high-end estimate ($11.5 million/mile) and earlier GAO estimate ($16.6 million/mile), Rosenblum said that, in the least, the higher numbers from both agencies are more relevant to the sections of border fencing still to be built than the GAO estimate for the initial sections at between $2.8 million and $3.9 million.

        There’s one more aspect to Trump’s plan that could make it even costlier — he is talking about a wall, not a fence. If he really means what he says, “the price would go up quite a bit,” Rosenblum said. The existing border “wall” is actually fencing and, in some areas, not even fencing but vehicular barriers.

    • Frankdidit

      Hey 123 Terry, your tooooooooooooooo stupid for me to even make a comment.

    • BOC

      crony capitalist: close relationships between business people and government officials. That reads republican to me. I think more than conservatives are voting for Trump, my dear.

      Why are you buying into the “open borders” minutia? No one really believes he would seal up the perimeter of the USA, who can afford it. It’s his ‘pig-in-the-Poke’ rhetoric that you have taken at face value.

      Can’t believe you would mention Rick ‘Mental Block/Deer in the Headlights’ Perry. That’s as bad as Jeb Bush bringing in this brother ‘W’ to bailing out of the political hole that he’s in. His brother brought a ‘backhoe’ to save him. I mean, really people, at what point do you realize when to ‘hold or fold’ them.

      I thought I would never had said this but, I think that was only one of the rare times, Fox Got it Right. Ricky crashed and burned during one of the debates and it’s been ‘stupid’ downhill ever since. His Credibility shot to pieces on national TV. I mean everybody knew he was suspect (mentally deficient), but after that performance it was, ‘move over and make room,’ Tom DeLay.

      Narcissistic? Well, I guess it’s safe to say you were no psych major or psychiatrist either. There is nothing to indicate that POTUS 44 has a personality or mental disorder. People make the mistake of trying to mislabel another when they cannot get ahead of or anticipate what a person’s next effective move may be so that they can counter, block, or destroy it.

      In frustration they say things like, he has an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others, which is completely the opposite of who they are and how they conduct themselves. These people are simply ‘haters’ or to use the old vernacular, jealous. It goes to motive: The republicans always trying to one-up the Potus who happens to always be steps ahead. When the republicans think they have him cornered, it backfires on them and the continue digging a deeper hole. Never admitting to failure at the expense of the American people. I have to give, I think it was, Marco Rubio credit. A republican finally had to admit that “President Obama knows exactly what he’s doing”.

      Now does this sound like he’s talking about a guy with ultra confidence? Does it sound like he’s talking about a person that is struggling emotionally or has fragile self-esteem problem? NOT AT ALL, ON BOTH COUNTS!

      This president hasn’t been vulnerable to anything, least of all to the slightest criticism which he encountered, along with disrespect of his office, on a daily basis.

      I don’t know if the ‘Donald,’ as they so graciously call him, has read the constitution or, I&II Corinthians, or not. But I think it’s safe to say that POTUS 44 has read the Constitution. After all being a Lawyer and Constitutional Scholar/Professor at the University of Chicago, only foolish republicans were found arguing and challenging these facts. How embarrassing and ignorant that was.

      As for covering biblical scriptures, we all know who the JUDGE is and it’s not you or me.

  • paulrph1

    There a lot of people on here that will say that Cruz is like Obama. Nothing could be further from the truth. Do your research. Then there are the Trump die-hards that will go into denial for anything that does not elevate their man. We had a bunch of people that did that same things the last two elections and we lost. Obama got in and now we are in a pickle. Vote the country and not the man, period. Vote the Constitution and not the agenda.

    • BOC

      NO! President Obama got in and got us out of ‘W’ Bush’s pickle. Let’s be ‘straight-up’ about it. You telling others on here to do there research, take your own advice. Start with the economics. Go to epi.org for some credible data and knowlege. Go to dol.gov Go where you are afraid to go for the real truth.

      Vote the person that cares about the people and his country. Vote the man who will abide by and exercise the constitution, like the president plans to do by selecting the next SCJ, which is a part of his remaining agenda.

      Mitch McConnell, be damned!

      • paulrph1

        It is not the role of the government to be that nanny of the people if you think so your ideas are Communistic in nature. And my most precious possession is my freedom but you do not seem to care about your freedom. If you have an over bloated government you will have a loss of freedom. It works no other way. And I do not want Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, Biden, Obama controlling my life. People like them have a double standard one for them and one for minions and if you are naive about that look at healthcare. They are corrupt to the core. I have been very good at doing my own thing without government intervention. I do not want some Communist that has no idea of my lifestyle dictating to me. There is a need for some government but it must be limited to protecting the innocent which is not what Obama is all about in fact the opposite it true. Do you want the government controlling your thermostat, dictating whether or not you can grow a garden, controlling all businesses, telling you want trees you can plant. All of these have been suggested and some have been implemented. It is all happening. I will bet they will control the price of gas thereby limiting how much you can use. But it is the free market system that is keeping us afloat and giving us more gas it is not Obama and Co. They have taken away the rights to purchase bullets by making them unavailable, try to get some 22 bullets. Have you ever seen in media where anyone one of the people that shoot up use a 22 cal.

        Bush may have not been good for the country but none of the last Presidents have been, Clinton or both Bushes but that is reflected in the rating of Jeb. But blame Bush, Obama has taken the country from disaster to utter chaos. 17 trillion in debt, a country that can no longer defend itself, we are in self-destruction mode, a lack of morals, the only lives that matter are the blacks in case you have not noticed, Christian lives do not matter. You would think we were living in old Roman times.

        Remember we were a government of the people, for the people and by the people. Not a government of the government for the government and by the government.

        BTW I can read and read and never come to the truth. They jack the figures to reflect their successes. And with media in their pockets it is easy for them to do.

        Boy are you in the liberal pocket. You really should read something else besides the NYTimes, Washington Post or Huffington Post.

        Obama like all Democrats are good at painting a good picture but he is only in it for one thing and that is the power. If he is for the people he will want to let them keep their freedom. The only time I have seen Obama PUSH THE CONSTITUTION in the seven years he has been in office is now because it fits his agenda and that is to appoint someone who will further destroy our country.

        • BOC

          It is the role of the government [Municipal, County, State and Federal] to be the ‘civil servant’ of and for the people. I should know because I have served. The president serves at the pleasure of the people who elected him and he represents.

          People on these threads use the word communist too loosely on these threads when the majority of the time, they do not apply.

          Conservatives are under this false belief that if you balance the budget, that’s all that matters. False! Businessmen and entrepreneurs who aspire to serve their respective governments and related agencies have to make a transition, which wasn’t easy for me being from both.

          Government does not have a P&L balance sheet. When you understand and reach this point [light comes on] then you will understand what is expected of you first.

          Government ‘SERVICES’ it’s people above all else. Sometimes this requires that it makes sacrifices to cover needed allocations which could put it in deficit situations and you must allow for that. Having a surplus and the end of the operating/budget period, but Rome is burning, is totally unacceptable and a complete failure. Case in point, look at what’s happening to Governor Rick Snyder (R) Michigan -the Flint Water Crises.

          Conservatives continually try to associate social programs, which they erroneously identify, as communist/socialist programs, is very disingenuous at the very least.

          Please note: I stop reading when it became very obvious that you started going off in ranting tangents.

          • paulrph1

            Since you worked for the government you do not have much of a taste of what the free enterprise system is all about.
            Obama is not a service type of guy in case you have not noticed. He is a dictate kind of guy. If I wanted a dictator I would move to Cuba.
            Simply put you have two types of government one of the people and a government that dictates everything to everybody. I myself am not concerned with the balanced budget like so many other believe the economy will take care of itself. But when we have 17 trillion in debt that is another story because it will bankrupt the country.
            If Obama says he is about to change the country and we have a government of the people, for the people and by the people what is he going to change it to?
            The role of the government should be to protect the innocent but they now think they need their finger in every aspect of our lives and the people are expecting it form them.

          • BOC

            I came from free enterprise, I operate a business. Stop talking because you fail to read. Your last statement just throws any credibility you might of had, right out of the window.

          • paulrph1

            “I should know because I have served”. Your words not mine. I was actually hesitant to post but I took your words at face value.

          • BOC

            “I should know because I have served?”.
            Don’t take this out of context. I was referring to the fact that I wore a army uniform and received a honorable discharge, if you want to call it that. I mean, that’s what the US Army calls it. I don’t want you to think I saw combat, not on your life, but came close. Vietnam was a conveyor belt of personnel being funneled into country.

        • BOC

          Why do you keep bringing your mother into this. I just don’t understand?

          • paulrph1

            If you think I am bringing my mother into this I can see why you do not understand.

          • BOC

            OKAY! My apologies. I shouldn’t have posted that. I wasn’t trying to be disrespectful toward you or her. Seriously!

  • joe s

    The establishment will never give up their power and stupid polls they show to somehow discourage we the people, but its not going to work!

    • BOC

      What establishment? Help me out.

      • The Redhawk

        WHICH ever is in his MIND…

      • joe s

        The repubs of the money class who win the Senate and then do what the dems want, that’s why Trump wants no part of the establish. and they hate him because they can’t control him.

        • BOC

          Well, they can’t control the tea party either, which is the crux of their control problems. Donald Trump saw this as the GOP’s problem and was able to confirm the same. He kept watching the re-emergence of John Boehner and what he had to give-up to regain his leadership position. This was his only way to reassure the GOP powerbase of conservatives that he was the only one capable of protecting their interests. Neither he, nor his band of conservatives, weigh the downside of the power equation, or the risk that their bottom-feeders (tea party) posed to the Grand-Old-Party.

          Oops! They got out, thanks to John Boehner who made a deal with these devil’s for a dime. I’ve said it from the onset, GOP implosion in-process.

          Look! When you have a certain faction of followers that do your bidding and unaware that their actions are equivalent to suicide, you ‘keep them under your feet’. It’s just unfortunate that the tea party wasn’t experienced or savvy enough to cease opportunity, that was ‘handed to them on a silver-platter’.

          Now that party has two ‘Albatrosses’ to deal with and it doesn’t look good from where I’m standing. But of course if you ask a stanch conservative republican, ‘everything is peachy,’ they’re famous for denials and fallacies.

        • BOC

          You would be hard pressed trying to convince me or anyone else that rich republicans do what democrats ask them to do. This is a very false statement and very misleading. Tell you what, start listing them and back them with credible citations.

          • joe s

            What? We win the house, win the senate and the bum Obama gets everything he wants and of course the loyal dems will follow their “dear leader” off a cliff,instead of working for us the people, just like the fascist’s they are.The repubs. eat their own, trying to take out Trump and Cruz because they can’t control them,like they can the others.

          • BOC

            POTUS 44 wasn’t given anything by the ‘obstructionists.’ He had to E,O, them and outmaneuver ahead of them to get things done.

            As for following him, that depends on who you ask or are talking about. Not everyone is a fan of trade deals or new climate change policies.

        • The Redhawk

          YOU poor, poor Uneducated TOOL.. W:S BOUGHT Obama in 2008 and 2012.. and has given more Cash to the CLINTIONS than anyone else Combined including Teachers , Labor< Seiu, UNIONS, trial Lawyers, Pharmaceuticals, AARP, Hospitals… than anyone else has given to the GOP…NOW THINK this out.. Since 2009 W/S with ZEERI % Borrowing rates has made BILLIONS/TRILLIONS and whose "REASURY" has KEPT these ZERO rates going????

          • joe s

            Your a tool moron you make NO sense in your rants, Trump will win, live with it!

          • The Redhawk

            Well keep on proving me right TOOL! T-RUMP is a clown with NO ANSWERS just BLOVIATIONS full of BULL CRAP…..CLINTON will WIPE the FLOOR with the CLOWN…Kasich will be a SUPERIOR PROBLEM SOLVER than the CLOWN

        • BOC

          No, they can’t control him. But they definitely invited him into the fray via ‘the birther’ strategy that backfired big time on everyone involved.

      • The Redhawk

        THE ONE THAT BERNIE the Commie , SHillery the LIAR and Donald THE CLOWN are Constantly Barking about…????

        • BOC

          Well, who do you want to represent you? Or are you a foreigner?

          • The Redhawk

            I believe that among the Bunch of Conservatives Candidates , KASICH has the Best Record, of Achievements and Honesty and REAL accomplishments in Governing ( so different than from running a business as a ONE man SHOW) Does that suffice? and I am a US MARINE. 60-65 ……TOOL

          • BOC

            First and foremost, thank you for serving our country and keeping us safe from those who mean to harm us. I’m a buckeye and Kasich isn’t my example of the direction this country should be headed. We’ve been down that particular pathway before [2001-2009] and we are still trying to recover despite conservative ‘obstructionism’. There is only one position that we may agree with and that is climate change.

          • The Redhawk

            Climate Change is a fiction since History has proven that in the middle ages before Buicks were Invented we had an ICE age like the one that the same PSEUDO scientists predicted for the 1970’s and At one time Greenland grew Grapes in warmer climate…Granted that Kasich is not the Strongest candidate but a GOV that has won in Cleveland by 62% needs consideration as a UNITER which TRUMP like Obama seem to create additional Divide and Chaos…So is Rubio the possible one??? However I dislike and do not tRUST T-RUMP I say “ANYONE BUT ” Shillery

          • BOC

            When the dust settles, it will be her. I just cringe at the thought of ‘Slick-Willie’ lurking in the background. Only a fool would believe she wouldn’t listen to him.

          • The Redhawk

            A B C….ANYONE BUT CLINTON….I ‘ll take CLYDE!!!

          • BOC

            🙂

          • The Redhawk

            Imagine “SLICK” DROOLING at State Dinners and attempting to GROPE young Dignitaries…….while the SOW chases young Nubile Female Employees into the Lincoln BEDROOM…LMAO :0)

          • crazyfreddie

            THEIR IS NO HONESTY IN POLITICS

          • The Redhawk

            SPOT ON.. WE MUST STOP ELECTING THESE PROS (titutes) Politicians…

        • BOC

          What establishment are they ‘Barking’ about?

          • The Redhawk

            Are you SERIOUS???

          • BOC

            Nothing wrong with being specific and verifying something.

          • The Redhawk

            and let us hope that who ever shows up in Detroit Starts saying something worthwhile Hearing … BUT can T_RUMP act like an ADULT??? and may be come out with REAL SOLUTIONS and NO more BS???

          • BOC

            Well, who ever shows up in Detroit better come correct. Because all Politicians, including the mayor, are being highly scrutinized. The Governor hasn’t made things easy for the rest of the electorate, be it Republican and Democrat. It’s all about the people in this state [MI.], believe me.

          • The Redhawk

            DOCUMENTS recently released have shown that it was EPA Michgan employees as well as DC EPA idiots that seemed to IGNORE the WARNINGS.. even a MI congressman tried to WAKE up McCarthy from issuing more Deranged Regulations and Concentrate on FLINT…..BUt then Obamabots always try to play the BLAME game when caught SCREWING UP…it is the Party of HYPOCRITES best Game plan

      • crazyfreddie

        GO BACK TO UR EVIL DESTRUCTIVE LIBERAL BLOG

  • crazyfreddie

    THAT’S BULL CRAP AND= YOU KNOW IT

    • pete G

      The liberal media is lower than whale poop.

      • The Redhawk

        YES the NY-SLIMe and WASH COMPOST really are THERE! and that CONSERVATIVE NBC…Boy aren’t they something… right Troll

    • BOC

      When one reads response statements like this, it’s becomes quite obvious they have nothing substantive to say which poorley reflects their seriousness and credibility.

      • crazyfreddie

        Its quite obvious that you are a delusional demented deranged very sick idiot / that should be substantial enough for you .to crawl in that hole of destruction !

        While ( what should be your country that you should care about is being destroyed from within) !

        • BOC

          We now understand why your name is such.

          • crazyfreddie

            NO U DO NOT

        • BOC

          This country is not being destroyed. Stop reading those ‘red light’ tabloids and underground blogs. Ditto! Fox News and those extreme conservative talking heads. ‘Get on the horn’ and tell Carson, Rubio and Canadian Cruz, to concede to the Trumpeter because the elephant has a long way to travel at 5 mph.

  • josebear5

    Go Cruz

    • crazyfreddie

      NOPE

      • josebear5

        YES

        • raynbene

          YES YES YES !

          • BOC

            Mapleleaf!

        • Kim

          Never

          • BOC

            Yes, in Canada.

        • BOC

          O’ CANADA!

          • Annihilator

            Yeah exactly, these jack offs posting on here for bi%# face cruz are probably from canada and believe in Canadian socialist principles.Their just cowards to admit it.Besides can you imagine cruz having a sit down with that mouse little boy voice . he’ll end up giving put in a lap dance.

          • BOC

            I’m having trouble keeping my composure. But you know I can’t let loose on this one. I have to continue to display some decorum, or I’ll have to answer to the man upstairs. I’m very afraid of him.

    • Timothy Raffety

      If you want to elect another foreigner for POTUS, you need to move to another country other than the good old USA. I for one am tired of non citizens trying to tell me and mine what’s good for us. Cruz doesn’t belong in this race, Trump is a born and bred US citizen through and through, his pedigree is pure American citizen.I come from a long line of REAL Americans, I’m a Delaware Indian from the Absentee Delawares of western Oklahoma, we were moved here from the North east coast by foreigners back in the late 1600’s. Also my family has fought in wars dating back that far, also my Grandfather was in WW-I, my Uncle flew B-25 fighter bombers in WW-II, my Dad was at the Frozen Chosin in Korea, I was in DaNang in Viet Nam plus other places I’d rather not think about, my cousins have been in all the battles over in the middle-east. So I feel that I have a right to not want another non citizen in the Whitehouse.PERIOD, end of story.

      • BOC

        “If you want to elect another foreigner for POTUS?”
        We never had one and Ted Cruz doesn’t really qualify.

        No one outside of a “natural born” citizen has ever been in a position to tell you or any of our American people that elected them, what to do. Why? Because they don’t constitutionally qualify for the opportunity to be POTUS.

        “Pedigree, Pure American Citizen? Seriously, Dude!
        This country is home to people of many different national origins. Purebred doesn’t equate or represent US natural born citizenship. Only the American Indian, native to this country could possibly make such a claim, no one else.

        Sounds like you qualify and I think I do too. In a broad sense of the ancestry word, only a few populations do.

        • Timothy Raffety

          the foreigner I was talking about is Kenyan born Obummer, I’ll never believe that he was born in the USA.

          • BOC

            Nut Job!

          • Timothy Raffety

            BOC you are the fucking nut job, if I was to see you on the street I’d knock the shit outta your stupid ass, you are a waste of skin, and you definitely don’t belong in MY COUNTRY, I’m Native American, and all of my family is also, we can trace our ancestry back to 200 years plus before Columbus came here, and the mayflower with all of the fucking white foreigners who now try to claim this land as their land. And if you don’t like what I’m saying, just bring your happy ass to Anadarko Oklahoma, and we’ll have a discussion, you punk ass bitch. I didn’t start the name calling, you did you sorry piece of shit.

          • BOC

            No you wouldn’t, not without carrying a gun anyway, hoping I wouldn’t take it from you. I wear a shoe size 15 and I’ll leave the rest to your imagination, which seems to be running wild. Are you claiming to be Indian? Because that’s the only thing native in this country.

            Threatening people is not healthy, but a dangerous thing. Be it on these threads or in person which I’m very confident you wouldn’t do.

          • Timothy Raffety

            Your point is taken, but it’s not the size of a person it’s what they’re able to do with what they have, I’ve never needed a gun as I feel it’s the wrong way to do things, and my shoes size is 14, but that doesn’t mean much to me. And far as claiming to be Native American? I am one, but that doesn’t matter either. The point I was trying to make on that last post was that you were way out of line by starting name calling, like calling me a Nut Job for my beliefs, and I believe that I have the right to them without being called names for having them, I’m a U.S. Army vet. ’68-’70, and my whole family has served Honorably from WWI until present day. So I apologize for my temper, you can either accept it or not, the balls in your corner, and it’s not that I’m afraid, because I’m not, I have cancer and really don’t much care, one way or the other.So once again respect my beliefs and I’ll respect yours.

          • BOC

            You were not my target, but your statement was. It lacked logic.

          • Timothy Raffety

            so we’re good then.

          • BOC

            I’m not looking for enemies, only the truth.

          • BOC

            Oh! We’re good.

    • kbfallon

      yes– go cruz–back to cuba or canada

      • BOC

        It’s Canada!

    • BOC

      He’s got to go to Canada, if he wants to win.

  • Citizentobe

    All is a show to distract people for Hellary taking over

    • BOC

      Are you sure you a natural born citizen? Ted Cruz thought so too.

      • Citizentobe

        And with an MBA from Southern Illinois, BOZO!

        • BOC

          Has nothing to do with whether you’re a natural born citizen. I have a ‘sheepskin’ two, Carbondale-Salukis. which less than 500 miles from where I got mine.I guess this doesn’t make me a BOZO. In fact I played the ‘Hoops’ less that 350 miles from there. Trust me, I’m far from being a BOZO.

          Please note, I never called you out of your name and would never do such a thing. It suits no purpose whatsoever.

        • BOC

          You keep repeating yourself and name calling. Is this a sign of insecurity.

  • Russ

    This has to be one of the most ridiculous “polls” I think I have ever seen. They called 400 people (probably hand picked) and their margin of error is 4.9%? Give me a break. They have the audacity to call it a poll. Their margin of error is greater than the supposed difference in the poll. Nice try NBC. You are only fooling yourself!! Molon Labe!!!

    • Gunflint Roseberg

      Agreed Russ..They can shove that poll up NBC’s CEO’s AZZ .. More Propaganda

    • peeweetanner@yahoo.com

      TRUMP NEEDS to stay on issues and quit attacking other candidates thats his big problem

      • used_to_be_a_liberal

        I would like to see him stop some of the attacks too, but at the same time when they go after him, he has every right to tear them down.

        • peeweetanner@yahoo.com

          Trouble is Trump starts it when he is in trouble

          • PatriotGal

            peewee, what a perfect name – obviously, you have no clue. Trump responds in kind; he does not preempt. However, he out negotiates them at every turn. Look at the baby Bush website…outmaneuvered. That’s what we need – a true leader whose a skilled negotiator. TRUMP 2016!

          • peeweetanner@yahoo.com

            TRUMP lets his ego take over him but i hope you get what you really deserve in your thinking about Trump you ll have a big failure in his ideas

          • kbfallon

            So PeeWee–how was the movie???

          • JOSEPH MORRIS

            PeeWee was playing with his dick in a porno movie!!!

          • The Redhawk

            GOSH you are really good…..PUTZ

          • BOC

            Do you really think the ‘Trumpster’ wants to be POTUS?
            I mean, think really hard about it. It’s funny how he made Bloomberg, the true moderate, squirm. But I think he thought better of it.

          • Old American

            There’s a sucker born every minute, and Trump knows how to find them.

          • BOC

            “baby Bush?”

            Oh! That’s good. LOL!!!!!
            They just keep feeding that baby, don’t they. These ‘PAC-Rats’ just keep waiting at the door hoping someone leaves it unlocked so that they can re-enter in. Watch out ‘gatekeeper’, stay vigilant.

          • BOC

            From where I’m sitting he hasn’t encountered any trouble whatsoever. Your statement is very premature. This happens when the real presidential contest begins.

        • PatriotGal

          used, agree with you totally. Moreover, who believes NBC? Let alone this tripe?

          • Robert Early

            This NBC poll is pure propaganda. Other polls have Trump 12 to 20 points ahead. Just vote your favorite; and forget the polls. They have lost all credibility.

          • BOC

            That’s what they all say when it doesn’t go their way.

          • The Redhawk

            SURE .. NBC is Such a CONSERVATIVE OUTFIT!

          • BOC

            I see we have some UK flavor in our American politics. Hey, you guys have your own problems: To Secede or stay the course in the EU, that is the question. Cameron has his hands full, indeed.

        • BOC

          He’s just having a lot of fun. And I’m getting a kick out of watching him.

      • TruthAlwaysRight

        As long as Trump keeps attacking he doesn’t have to discuss the issues or anything about what he is for or against. Some people say he is a Conservative Republican. How can that be when he has been a Democrat most of his life? Don’t believe me?? Google Donald Trumps Party affiliations.

        • peeweetanner@yahoo.com

          i know i think he is working for HILLARY

          • BOC

            Here’s another one!

          • The Redhawk

            bUT unlike BERNIE he has not yET said that in his first day in Office he will have the Agriculture Department Plant TREES that will GROW all the FREE shit he wants to give away… ‘though he might try to BUILD towers with crusaders Flags facing iSIS…by POLISH illegal workers …and the Circus goes on

          • BOC

            You’re still ranting and would rather resort to being a weak comic.

          • The Redhawk

            She WAS at his LATEST WEDDING….. SO…

        • BOC

          Oops! Somebody’s waking-up.

        • The Redhawk

          and you may finf he belongs to POH

          P ARTY
          O F
          H YPOCRITES…….AKA LIberal Progressive PARTY

        • peeweetanner@yahoo.com

          if he dont need to discuss the issues then you want a idoit for president

      • BOC

        That’s part of campaigning and you know this.

        • peeweetanner@yahoo.com

          yes it shows his IQ to be PRESIDENT stupid

      • BOC

        The polls say otherwise. So let’s see what happens because of his verbal exchange with the pope. Oh! That’s right, the pope lives in the Euro-Vatican zone. It doesn’t matter what he says.

      • The Redhawk

        and Stop Threatening LAW suits.. who is next? the Vatiacan< china? Jay Lenno??/ anybody making fun of the THIN SKINNED FIFTH AVE LOUD MOUTH???How about some serious detailed discussions on POLICY and How to turn the Economy around, Safe Border, ISIS, Russia, jobs exports in a serious detailed GROWN UP way???
        We already have a CLOWN in DC we do not need another…

    • BOC

      Turn around is fair play!

      • Russ

        what is that even supposed to mean for heavens sake?? if you are insinuating the polls are slanted for Trump then that my friend is really LAUGHABLE!!!

    • BOC

      That’s what the Bundy Clan said [Molon Labe!!!] and you see what happened to them.
      You know what the government will do and so will law enforcement.

      • Russ

        well, I have a feeling by reading your posts that you probably don’t have the foggiest idea what molon labe even means would be my guess. again Molon Labe!!!

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