EPA to repeal Obama’s Clean Power Plan on Tuesday

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October 9, 2017

EPA-repeal-obama-clean-powerEnvironmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt will sign a proposed rule on Tuesday to repeal the Obama administration’s Clean Power Plan restrictions on coal plants, he announced Monday morning in the coal-mining state of Kentucky.

“Regulatory power should not be used by any regulatory body to pick winners and losers,” Pruitt said alongside Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

The plan has been on ice since February 2016, when the Supreme Court blocked it as it worked its way through the courts. The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals heard oral arguments from more than two dozen states and over 100 industry groups challenging the Obama-era rules in September 2016, but has not ruled on the case.

Pruitt said the withdrawal of the plan, which requires states to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions one-third by 2030, would come Tuesday. Many climate scientists blame greenhouse gas emissions from burning fossil fuels for driving manmade climate change.

  • WhiteFalcon

    There is no such thing as”man made climate change.” That is a lie and a fraud.

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  • roboteq

    As an HVAC professional who is also chemical sensitive, I am certainly opposed to pollutants in the air that are adversely affecting the environment and/or our health. The problem I have with these regulations is that the issue is more politically motivated to move money and power to Progressive organizations and politicians than it is being shown to be a real issue. There are so many claims that are downright deceitful manipulations that I have become very skeptical of the environmentalist industry.
    The costs to our energy needs are too great to continue imposing regulations that only transfer money from one potentially harmful energy source to other energy sources that are not only more harmful in other ways, but simply cannot produce the amount of energy we require.
    We must continue to be responsible about reducing the amount of pollution we create as well as continue to increase the efficiencies of products that use the energy we produce. There is a compromise. We all need to simply be more responsible.

  • Tim Nordlinger

    Next up : The nuke deal with Iran that Never should have been signed ! I mean
    seriously folks. Iran would not agree to unfettered access to their nuke sites which they maintained were for energy purposes only . They still sponsor terrorism either directly or indirectly. They harass other ships in the Persian Gulf
    and on and on. The USA is led by someone who is proud of this country and is
    not going to honor an agreement that Obama, the Jew hater, signed ,whether
    the rest of the world likes it or not!

  • Ramon1710 .

    “So, it was coal miners responsible for my election loss!” stated Hillary.

    • bobnstuff

      There are more people working at Walmart then mining coal in the US. It was the suckers that believed the lies of the Russian and Trump that cost Clinton the election.

      • Retired

        Now you are Spreading Bull , never saw a add from your comrades . this whole Russia deal is to take the heat of the Democrats for the 8 years of Obama Screw ups in the middle East and far East .Bill Clinton along with Hillary as SS let North Korea get to where it is .Just like Kerry and Obama in Iran and yes there was other counties involved and so was the UN .

        • bobnstuff

          Don’t blame me for claiming the Russians influenced the elect, congress use announced the fact. Aren’t we forgetting the president who attacked the wrong country on a lie and destabilized the whole middle east. He also didn’t follow through with the deal with North Korea that Clinton had work out to stop them from getting a bomb.

          • Retired

            Now you are talking about your friend OBAMA .

          • bobnstuff

            Was the middle east stable when Obama took office? The North Korea deal was long gone by then. Did you notice that or problems really grow under Trump. I don’t recall Kim threatening to blow up the US under Obama. So other then a lot of name calling what is Trump doing different from Obama.

          • Retired

            Trump is doing a lot and could do more if McTurtle would bring out the list of appointees instead of playing games with the Democrats like a grade school kid . You forget how Obama Screwed up in the Middle east because he could not get along with the leadership .Keep on proving what a Obama Bot you are . Are you a member of the KGB and a Putin kiss Butt ???? You sure do sup[port the Commies a lot .

          • bobnstuff

            Your Mr McTurtle is a Republican.

          • Retired

            So is McQueen now what ,they are traitors to the party just like Priebus . Ryan will most likely be next to get axed . All the crap Going on is about the 2018 election and more than likely will continue up to the 2020 election all because the sore losers , Hillary did a lot of damage to the US with losing .She has been a sore loser all her life .

          • bobnstuff

            If the party had a good leader in the White House maybe they would unite behind him. To bad they don’t have one.

          • Retired

            It has nothing to do with Trump , it’s all about Clinton losing and Congress is afraid of their own shadow of getting exposed .You have been blinded by the media and their lies protecting the Clintons . WHY is that It started way back in Arkansas already .

          • bobnstuff

            I don’t think you can blame Trumps lack of leadership on Clinton. No shirt tails on Trump.

          • Retired

            WHY are you playing Stupid , congress wanted Clinton so they can screw you some more and Trump winning spoiled their plans . Congress does not want to change is the whole Problem and not Trump . Are you losing it completely ?????

          • bobnstuff

            Trump is so clueless and in so much and need of a win he would sign anything put in front of him. If it wasn’t for a few good republican we would have been screwed big time.

          • Retired

            You mean party traitors like Priebus was .All you care about is the ACA and afraid of losing it . I hear one of your turn coat Republicans might quit ????

          • Retired

            That is because he and others believed Israel’s intelligence agency .Our so called Intelligence believed Israel . You seem to forget the US Taxpayer has sent Billions to the middle east for decades before the Bush family entered the WH and still doing it today . You are really out of the loop on NK and the far east including China .

          • bobnstuff

            The largest single country who gets foreign aid is Israel. Even had there been WMD why did we go to war with them? I guess it was because Bush was Israels lap dog.

          • Retired

            You are really out of touch on foreign aid to middle east countries since WW2 and even before .The UN and the US has been protecting Israel longer than you would accept . The Middle east is about the flow of oil and the market boys and nothing more .

      • Brad

        No one, and I mean, NO ONE, believes the Russian BS, not even the media who is saying it. It has been hyped up by cnn and msnbc to increase their ratings to above that of a test pattern. Project Veritas has shown these loons for what they are. They would sell out their own mothers to try to increase ratings.

        • bobnstuff

          Congress believes it now. If you believe anything from Project Veritas you are a fool.

          • Brad

            I take it you haven’t seen the behind the scenes footage that Project Veritas has shown. Are you saying that footage is fake? Looked pretty real to me. Ah, I see. I bet you’re buying into the garbage of cnn telling you it was heavily edited. Once again, you act like everyone but you is an idiot. All you are is another opinion on the left.

          • bobnstuff

            I take it you know nothing about James O’Keefe. He is the greatest living propagandist in the world today. He is very good at making lies look real. His Planned Parenthood video was found baseless by 13 state AG. Acorn was cleared of all his charges, to late to save them though. Everytime people look closely at his works they prove to be based on lies.

          • Brad

            Again, you are deflecting. It is what you always do. Did you not see the behind the scenes videos?

          • Retired

            You have bobnbull pegged !!

          • bobnstuff

            You can’t trust anything O’Keefe has anything to do with.

          • Brad

            Good attempt to save face after Retired’s comment. I do believe my own eyes when I see cnn people on video saying the Russia story is a ploy to get ratings. So, are you saying I’m a liar? There again, you’ve circumvented a simple question. Did you or did you not see the videos? Pretty simple. I don’t care who filmed them. Furthermore, it is The Washington Pravda, or I mean, The Washington Post, saying that Okeefe is a propagandist. What a shock. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. If they told me it was raining out, you can bet I’d look out the window just to make sure.

          • bobnstuff

            I’m saying O’Keefe is very very good at his job, to bad he’s not on the side of truth and justice. If O’keefe said water was wet I would need to check it three way to Sunday. Just so you know the congress has stated that the Russians were involved with covert attempts to influence our elect, It wasn’t CNN but the Congress. Now it left to see what Trump & Company know and when they know it and if they worked with the Russians. Kenn Starr believe we will see indictments before it’s over.

          • Brad

            You didn’t see the videos. Ok. By not answering, you answered. The Russia thing is a huge load of shit. You know it and I know it. No one’s going to find anything. The establishment morons in congress are scared as hell because Trump is shaking up there way of doing business in DC. The left is attempting a soft coup in this country. Indictments? Pfft. Even if they make up some crap about Russia, there are no laws against it. Indict on what? Jaywalking? If you want to investigate things, why isn’t anybody concerned about the dnc’s interfering with the primaries and the election? It should upset you about Bernie, since you’re a marxist leftist yourself. And how about clinton selling off 20% of US uranium to the Russians through a Canadian front co? What it really comes down to is you’re an elite leftist marxist collectivist who is upset to see someone in office who is not continuing to tow the obama line.

          • bobnstuff

            Boy you are easy to fool with misinformation. You believe the Clinton uranium myth. Just so you can sleep at night, Russia can’t get one oz. of our uranium unless Rich Perry lets them. All exports of uranium must be approved by the Dept of Energy. Also you seem to believe anyone with an education must be a Marxist. I’m about as capitalistic as you can get. I have started four different businesses of my own and help a number of others do the same. Obama was also a big time supporter of capitalism for that matter. Did you notice every solution Obama came up with involved private companies.

            As far as laws being broken if the Trump campaign is linked to the Russians, there are a number of them starting with Treason and ending up at the Logan Act. More important Congress can use this to impeach the president since the rules are different then those in a court of law.

            As far as Mr. O’Keefe’s fake news if you do a little digging you will find that the new hire was acting on his own and against the NYT policy. He know this and is afraid he is getting fired because of it. Nicholas Dudich has only worked for the Times for a few months. He isn’t part of management, hes just a editor. This is just another O’Keefe special, catching a little fish and making a whale of a story out of it.

          • Brad

            Yeah, I’m easy to fool. That must be it. The Logan act doesn’t even apply. They are grasping at straws because they have nothing concrete and this is best they could come up with. It’s not going to stick. Why? Because we are not at war with Russia! You accuse of me of being ignorant, but I see you don’t even know the definition of treason. Unfortunately, you use education as a platform to look down on everyone else, like education makes you a god. Your smugness is borderline nauseating. Why would clinton selling uranium to russians help me sleep at night? You’re right on one thing, though. I really don’t know if you’re a marxist. You just sure as hell act like one, the way you always side with the left wing media. You have leftist written all over you, from your love of planned parenthood, to your hatred of trump.

          • bobnstuff

            She didn’t sell uranium to any one, that’s the point.

            Do you understand words have meanings and I fear you don’t know what some of the words you like to throw around mean. Go look up Marxist before you use it again.

            You are ready to believe any lie as long as it feeds your world view. I bet you believe Trump is a good businessman.

          • Brad

            I read the manifesto of the communist party by marx and engels two weeks ago you condescending a-hole.

          • Retired

            You Nailed it about bobnbullshitsky !!!

          • Brad

            I really have better things to do than deal with that moron. By listening to him, you’d think he was the only one who ever ran a business or picked up a book.

          • bobnstuff

            Then either you are misusing the word on purpose or didn’t have a clue what you read.

          • Brad

            Perhaps it is you who doesn’t have a clue or you do not realize that you’re playing right into the hand of the marxist agenda.

          • Retired

            That is what many think about your posting ,based on lies .

          • Retired

            Sounds like you are describing yourself and the BS you put out .

          • Retired

            All congress believes in is getting campaign money and the hell with the people back home . The media tells a lie often enough and the Guppies will believe it .

          • Retired

            You mean the bought and paid for members don’t you ???

        • Retired

          bobnbull believes all the fake media BS.

    • Retired

      She will blame everyone but herself for losing .

      • maxx

        That is what all liberals do. And of course it wasn’t her fault that she lost the first time around. As Bill claimed “BHO plaid the race card”. Of course he did. That was the only reason he got into the W.H. He sure had no other qualifications. Never even held a private sector job except for Baskin Robbins while in Hawaii.

        • Retired

          He spent most of his time there on Hotel street where the Trannies hung out .

  • Webb

    Maybe one day the EPA will be Abolished…
    It’s just one more Overreaching Government ABC AGENCY…
    Americans individual or corporate know how to keep air and water Safe…
    Without Government Interference…

    • maxx

      Pruitt actually advocated for that very thing. Now that he is in charge maybe he will neuter it enough so that it can be abolished. When an illegally created bureaucratic agency believes and acts to eliminate ownership of “private property” it is time to end that agency. That is exactly what the EPA did with it’s “bodies of water” ruling.

      • Webb

        MAXX…
        I too agree…
        The EPA has long Overreached it’s Limits…causing more harm to Americans than good.
        Maybe one day…abolished!!

  • bobnstuff

    Clean air doesn’t matter to Trump & Company. Nether does clean water as long as the coal companies can make money. The good thing is coal is no longer the cheap way to make electricity and those plants are old and being closed no matter what. There will be no new coal plants built in this country because of economic pressers. I do wish we could make the head of the EPA live in coal country and have to put up with the effect of his decisions.

    • chw2000

      Still know everythinjg about everything don’t you ass hole Bob. You said you live in “coal country”. If it’s so bad why don’t you just move. I’d tell you to walk away but poor little Bobby got a bad knee. You got a bad brain too.

    • gvette

      It’s always fun to see what stupid crap you’ll type! Low information DenonRat that you are!

      • bobnstuff

        So you don’t want clean air or clean water? you don’t believe anyone else does either. Well Emily your are as dumb as a post. Until we got Trump in office things were going well and being cleaned up. So go defend your con man. He is after all the first President ever convicted of money laundering and paying off people for committing fraud. So when they booted you out of the military how did you feel.

        • Retired

          Yup ,our trucking industry sure is making a lot of clean air , that is why the EU is going to ban Diesel vehicles in certain cities because they are so clean . In the EU the Diesel fuel is cleaner than in the US ,why is that ????.

          • bobnstuff

            The ban is goes into effect in 2025. We don’t care about clean air anymore. The UK plans on getting rid of all gas and diesel vehicles by 2040. For the next three years you may see the emissions rules on vehicles get reduced, after all the head of the EPA would get rid of all EPA rules. I sure hope you and yours don’t have a breathing problem.

          • Retired

            Why are you changing the Subject about trucks . They will not ban them like cars . Right now most vehicles are computer controlled so emission inspections are a waste of Taxpayer money . Some cars will stop running if things go wrong and you will need special computer programs to get them running and the dealers will only have them . With all the fires out west that are polluting the country how is the EPA stopping that pollution Bright boy ??? The trucking industry is polluting more than Manufacturing , keep on buying IMPORTS .

          • bobnstuff

            You do know there are government emission rule on diesel truck just like on cars. Your emission inspection is a state law, not a federal one. Not all state even have inspections. Coal power plants if not regulated are really dirty, trust me you wouldn’t want to be down wind from one. You seem to think all those trusts are only carrying imported goods. You most likely buy as much or more imported stuff then then I do. Even my socks are American made.

        • Brad

          The problem with the epa and other regulatory agencies is that they are forcing massive amounts of regulations on the country. Regulations are are known as something else. Laws. However, they can’t call them laws, because only congress and state legislatures can make law. So, we have unelected (appointed) regulatory officials essentially making laws without due process. If you don’t have a problem with that, then there’s is nothing more I can say to you.

          • bobnstuff

            Do you know what it takes to pass a regulation, look it up some time. It takes a number of hearings and input from everyone before it can go through. It’s about a year of work. There is more public debate for a regulation then a law.

          • Brad

            I don’t care what it takes. Our country is not set up that way. Laws can only be passed by congress, signed by the president, and checked by the supreme court.

        • Retired

          You are the con man on here !!!

        • gvette

          You should be ashamed of yourself for being so ignorant, Bob. They all burn clean now, and have for a long time. Grow the fuck up, and and least act like an adult, and not like all your brain dead liberal cohorts! You know what’s funny, had it a been your gay nigger saying it, it’d be ok.

          • bobnstuff

            Right and we all have unicorns in our gardens. That’s why there is a fine gray ash on every car down wind from coal power plants. This is not far from my home. They put a extra tall smokestack to spread the pollution wider.
            .http://photos.wikimapia.org/p/00/01/89/42/09_big.jpg

          • Retired

            That is because they have not installed scrubbers , because your utility is more interested in giving big raises and bonus to the top people .

          • bobnstuff

            It’s cheaper to pay the fine then fix the problem. They get fined a lot.

          • Retired

            What happened to how great your location is and how everything is perfect ???? Did you forget about that ???

          • bobnstuff

            I live in coal country, I have said that many times. We have two big polluters, The power plant and the Coke works. Both are major coal users. The EPA has been fighting both for years. Under Trump & Company thing will get worse. Both are in the lower income neighborhoods so their political power is low. Both neighborhoods have health issues because of the pollution. It used to be much worse and even downtown was bad but after years of fighting and an economic down turn in the steal industry back in the early eighties has cleaned up most of the plants. Now instead of making lots of steal we are a major computer and medical center. I live in an upscale area and we get none of the ash. Property values where you have pollution are noticeably lower and health is also impacted. After all you don’t live in unhealthy places if you have a choice and the poor have no real choice as to where they live.

          • Retired

            People that live near major interstate roads are no better off , your legislators really care about your area otherwise the power plant would have scrubbers . Just like they lost out on Foxconn .

          • bobnstuff

            These guys have been in court so many times it’s not funny. The battle has been going on for as long as I can remember. They put a scrubber in back in 2012 but it fail very soon after installation and has given them problems on a regular basis. They were getting close to shutting it down because of it’s age and the cost of coal has gone up but with the new EPA they will most likely wait. All the new plants around here are NG, we have a lot of it in our area.

            What people don’t know is that in our area the good coal is almost gone and what we have now is high sulfur, much dirtier to burn. When the burned sulfur gets into the atmosphere it turns into H2SO4 or sulfuric acid. If a scrubber goes down you get acid rain. You also get a bunch of mercury. Burning coal also releases radiation. A friend of mine was working Three Mill Island when they had their problem and they were having a problem with the coal fired plant up the river giving them false reading. It seemed that a coal plant puts out as much radiation in a day as all of the radiation released by Three Mill Island did total.

            Knowing these things I think I would rather live next to an interstate then a coal fired power plant.

          • Retired

            What does any of that long winded BS have to do with your low Quality Politicians not getting the job done . Just like they gave away the Chance to get Foxconn as your state was the No.1 choice . You sure know how to come up with a lot of BS !!!

          • bobnstuff

            The local health department is the ones that get to deal with this problem and they keep fining them but that’s all they can do. As you know local government is slow to get anything done and the power company has good lawyers who know how to drag things out.

          • Retired

            You sure come up with Bull , it is your Pussy Hat Society political leaders that are not doing their job . I notice you wont answer about Foxconn ,is it your political machine sucks .

          • bobnstuff

            I don’t care about some low paying Chinese company building a plant tax free in my area. We went through that with VW and at least the Germany pay a little better. Amazon has been looking but having Ford move the high tech center was nice.

          • Retired

            You just can’t face the fact your politics in your state suck , just like they were one of the states that helped Obama win the second time . Amazon is nothing but a China wharehouse distributer paying $10.00 to $13.00 a hour with mandatory overtime and seven day work week .

          • Retired

            No it is your politicians that are bought and paid for by the Utility .

          • gvette

            Hey numb nuts. ELECTROSTATIC PRECIPITATOR
            Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me Bob

          • bobnstuff

            Tell me about the coal fired plant in your neighborhood. They have precipitators that catch about 90% of the fly ash when they work.

          • gvette

            Stop with the bullshit Bob. They work well. Just up the road from where I live, are three stacks that have them, and they wok great. You just want to live in the dark ages. How’s that windmill on your car working?

          • bobnstuff

            Go check the record of those plants and then tell me how well they work.

          • gvette

            Well Bob, when your gay boy Barry, gave policy setting powers to the EPA, he stepped over the line. Which of your liberal sites did you get your information from?

          • bobnstuff

            It was Nixon that gave the EPA power to regulate power plants almost fifty years ago. In fact the Obama regulation did do anything directly to out law coal fired plants, it just asked the states to come up with plans to lower carbon output from energy production by 2024.

            Here is a short list of major coal plants violations that were settled.

            https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/coal-fired-power-plant-enforcement

          • gvette

            Sorry, but this web page does not exist.
            That’s what I got, when I went to your link. Nothing new for you Bob. Duds, just like you, and Killary!
            It was buried in Omuslims healthcare bill, by the way.
            Then again, what would you know about Hitlers, I mean Barry healthcare bill.

          • bobnstuff

            Funny I clicked on it just now and hand no problems. I’m sorry you got burned on your healthcare, I came out ahead on it and am very happy with my insurance. I just had a $100,000 hospital bill, my co pay was $300.

          • gvette

            LOL.in my 66 years, I’ve not needed it. I’m healthy, unlike you.

          • bobnstuff

            That’s what I said three months ago.

          • gvette

            Did you catch my age? Now I’ve moved to the insurance we all have to pay for. I’m glad you heve good luck with Omuslim care. Others not so lucky, and I’ts still imploding. Companys dropping like flys. Flys tend to go to shit piles.

      • Retired

        What did you expect from a Demodog that claims to be a Republican ???

        • gvette

          He can say anything he likes. He clams republic, but all he spews is left side crap.

          • Retired

            Him and DR Bull are a matched pair .

          • gvette

            LOL..there are several here that fit together nicely!!
            Makes ya wonder if they share the same brain, or vacuum, as it were!!!

          • Retired

            Site observers to get the hit count up , pretty much all have the same script or BS . AK is the cut and paste one .

          • gvette

            LOL…AK is just an angry old woman. Living in a delusional world.

          • Retired

            Remember , some will do anything for a buck .

    • Retired

      All those Trucks with China imports are doing more damage than out industry or the power plants .You don’t see pollution inspections on Trucks do you ??????

  • DrBillLemoine

    So much for Republican claims wanting to transmit a better world to their children. Renewing coal-fired power plants is the opposite action. Watch what they do, not what they say is the new Democratic mantra. From Trump on down the line, policies emerging are counter intuitive, counter productive and contrary to the wishes of a majority of Americans for clean energy and clean environment. Pruitt is simply another swamp creature, someone Trump said he would drain from government swamps. Funny how the promises disappear when the perpetrators of wrong-headed policies attain office. Campaign promises are just cheap talk to Republicans and Pruitt.

    • I Served With Honor

      Doctor of what? FAKE NEWS?
      The majority of ANYTHING, you say….
      A majority, what was their claim up to? 98% Hogwash. 98% of those scientists surveyed were on the take from Soros and Gore to say what made sense for their redistribution schemes.
      Oh, and 93% polled,still think Cankles will be elected President.
      You lost… accept it…. for at least 8 years.

      • DrBillLemoine

        Clearly you ‘should be thanked for your service’–and sent back to the trenches where thinking is limited to following orders. You haven’t address any of my points, follow the Putin-inspired Russian mafia aims to misguide and mix up American thinking, and add your own ‘fake news’ about sources of solid polling and stated Republican/Trump aims.
        And your Hillary comment is old hat now, 9 months out of date as well. For all your ‘winning’ (another fake news concept) your president and congress can’t agree on anything, have little to show for complete government control. Guess who won but is still losing.

        • Brad

          Yeah, it was the Russians. WTF man? Seriously?

        • Retired

          You haven’t a clue as to where all this so called Russia issue came from or how it is manipulated , how do you know it was not all started here state side to get Trump out of office ???? Do you even know where most of the computer break ins come from ???? You have been Brain Washed by your Union and the Media . It is congress that refuses to work with Trump thanks to your friends Schumer and Pelosi along with McConnell and McCain to name the main ones .You seem to forget McConnell is not bringing out the list of appointees and of course that is Trumps fault in your books .Then there is your Queen Hillary with her lies as to why she lost crying all over with her book sale . She lost because of who she is and her past .

          • DrBillLemoine

            I’m not the investigator of Trump and company who Mueller and associates are approaching with facts from around the world about collusion, money laundering, coverups and racketeering, including Russian hacking. You clearly don’t get reputable news from a myriad of sources homing in on these crooks.
            It’s not connected to unions. Media ARE, however, reporting it day by day if you aren’t hiding from truth.
            lol You are grasping at straws again over failure to legislate to blame Dems when Republicans have complete control of government. It’s your extremists who still block all decent legislation–fixing healthcare, regulating immigration, and soon reforming taxes. You folks, exemplified by your ongoing comments, who fail to see truth, seeks facts, follow logic and satisfy expressed needs of the public. Soon you won’t have to worry as Dems will take over at least the Senate, maybe the House again. Somebody needs to check the crooked president, clearly not you the swamp creature sycophant.
            Get over Hillary; she’s out of the picture now. Her past is much preferable, in truth, than the current Oval Office occupant if you are realistic. Repubs blame Hillary for all their own faults; it’s comical. And remember, she didn’t lose the popular vote.

          • Retired

            Still got your head up the Unions rear don’t you , you repeat everything they preach and can NOT think for yourself . OBAMA and HILLARY are calling you .

          • DrBillLemoine

            I haven’t talked to a union at any level for years. Simply think for myself and findings coincide with good and substantial leadership there. What about the topic, or do you just like seeing your stuff in print?

        • Rodney Steward

          We’ll all be in those trenches before long! It’s coming Cod, like it or not!

          • DrBillLemoine

            I’m convinced that rogue Trump will not hesitate to declare war on North Korea or Iran when investigators get close to his lawbreaking and malfeasance, to distract the public from it. My heart goes out to the innocent Koreans and Japanese who will be closest to that action, especially in Seoul. We have defenses; those 2 countries don’t have enough. But that won’t excuse base Republicans for installing this pariah by electing him and approving his criminal cadre. Money laundering, racketeering, obstruction, and collusion bordering on treason with Russian mafia types including Putin. The blame will rest on your heads.

          • Rodney Steward

            I’m talking about the war we’re going to have HERE, people are fed up with these fools trying to change our History, like the bunch you help brainwash!

          • DrBillLemoine

            Nonsense, there’s not going to be war here. We have a democratic process that makes us #1 in the world. Who would overthrow that? Are you a subversive, a traitor?
            History is dead; what do you propose to remedy the problems Trump creates and embodies? He’s chief swamp monster, hires fellow travelers to stock it, what few people will still consent to work under him. I wasn’t a history teacher but produced in part many successful and significant people–musicians of reknown, stock brokers, entrepreneurs, football stars, cultural stabilizers, sex educators, and more, over 10K directly. What have you done for anybody but yourself?

          • Rodney Steward

            We’re going to have to fight the war Obama started, another Civil War, and all the socialist teachers have help create his sick agenda he had, as did Hellary!! Remember, Nostradamus predicted the new world (USA) would see 2 civil wars, we’ve had one!! Still protecting my country that I took an oath to do!!

          • DrBillLemoine

            No, no, no. ‘sick agenda’ in your mind is equal rights under the Constitution for everybody else in reality. Hillary emphasized women. Obama emphasized all.
            I’m not one to believe in end times or ancient predictors aside from Christ. All your ‘end of the world’ predictors are discredited.
            Your oath was for the military; are you still a jarhead? No; ditto, your oath.

          • Rodney Steward

            Sorry Cod, if you voted for Obama and Clinton, you’re the sick puppy, but it may have been the unions voting for you!!

      • Retired

        He a Dr. of Bullshitsky !!!

        • DrBillLemoine

          Yet YOU provide no substance, no truth and don’t respond to either the article or my comments.

          • Retired

            You are all the proof and substance one needs . Like your Sister said you are a old WIND BAG .

    • Webb

      Sounds Like Democrats to most Americans…

      • DrBillLemoine

        Good environment, better healthcare and sane immigration policies and laws–that’s your Democrats, the opposite of Trump and supporters.

        • Retired

          You mean ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS that the Democrats support . The US had good immigration laws until your friends destroyed them .

          • DrBillLemoine

            I refer to Trump banning Muslim from a handful of nations that have not sent us terrorists–and doing it illegally in Executive Orders. The Dems changed no immigration laws with Republicans in charge of congress for 6 years, now 7. Try dealing with facts for a change.
            Try to remember ‘Fast and Furious’ enacted by Repubs. How about breaking the law to pursue immigrants in cities? It was conservatives who illegally stopped busses of immigrants being transferred during processing. Your party from top to bottom embodies illegality in immigration. You don’t even recognize DACA with babies brought to America yet put in the deportation hopper without fine tuning your thinking. It all lacks compassion, reasonableness and sound policymaking, not Republican strengths.

          • Retired

            Trump made the mistake of not stopping all travel banns to include the far east where ISIS is in full swing now . You did not Complain about Obamas EOs ,no double standard with you is there ?? The immigration laws were changed way before Obama was thought of decades ago .You are way out of date on that .And that is a fact . You keep using the word immigrants which actually are Illegal law breakers . But the word Illegal is not in your head . Our town went from little Italy to Little Mexico under BILL CLINTON . You mean Children that were bused through Mexico to the USA Border with the Aid of the UN and Latino society that your Tax Dollars pays for them . You support LAW BREAKERS ..

          • bobnstuff

            Obama know how to write a legal EO, Trump hasn’t a clue how to write one that will stand up. That’s what you get when a unqualified person gets elected President. I love your fairy tale about buses, this time it’s children being bused by the UN.

          • Rodney Steward

            Obama got a free ride on everything because he had a big fat race card, Trump don’t and he’s White! Obama didn’t write anything, it was all done for him, all he had to do was put his X on it!!

          • Retired

            You got that right !!

          • Rodney Steward

            The idiots have come out on this one today, how’s it going RT!!

          • Retired

            They are taking the place of AK . We are doing alright .

          • Rodney Steward

            LOL, AK’s been blocked a lot lately, and old Doc below is anything but a Doc of any kind, I told him that one day and also told him from this day forward the word Doc would be spelled backwards to Cod!

          • Retired

            LOL and can’t stop . That is one cod the sharks would spit out . Got the title from a cereal box decades ago .

          • Rodney Steward

            LOLOL, Cod cream puff !!!

          • bobnstuff

            Obama didn’t get a free ride, the republicans tested everything he put out. The difference is Obama is a Harvard lawyer who was top of his class with a strong back ground in constitutional law. Trump has a 4 year degree in business and has never been good when dealing with legal stuff. Obama has worked with government both as a outsider working for political change and as an insider dealing with legislation. Trump is a real estate developer who has spent his life fighting governments and never figured out how government worked. It’s no surprise that Trump can’t put together a EO that can pass the test.

          • Rodney Steward

            It’s so funny no one remembers him from Harvard no graduation Picture! And his teachers were Bill Ayres, Rev. Wright, Van JONES on how to bring down America, the same goal as Hellay had! You’re really proud of this back BOY ain’t you, he was just your typical …..

          • bobnstuff

            He was editor of the Harvard Review. He is listed in the honors at graduation. You are thinking of Trump. He was the ghost, even his college asked him to stop talking about his time there.
            http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2014/07/09/How-Barack-Obama-Amazed-His-Harvard-Law-Professor
            http://www.politico.com/story/2008/12/school-buds-20-harvard-classmates-advising-obama-016224
            http://www.thedp.com/article/2017/02/trump-academics-at-wharton

          • Rodney Steward

            I’ve seen the politico one, it’s a fake picture, the whole thing is, don’t know about the top one! Most of this BS came out when the Dems. were trying to prove he was real, but he and Big Mike both lost their Bar as did the Clinton’s! And I’ve never heard of Trump claiming to be a top student! He went to military schools most of his schooling, but was a great athlete and not http://theconspiracyblog.co… if it’s still up!!

          • bobnstuff

            Trump was sent to military school because of problems. He was pulled from a leadership post because of complains. It’s amazing he was a good athlete with that bone spar in his foot that kept him out of the military.

            CHUCK TODD:
            — college transcripts —

            DONALD TRUMP:
            “I’m proud of my records. But he has to do it. If he does it, I’ll do it. But, hey, I went to the Wharton School of Finance. I was a really good student. It’s probably the hardest school
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/17/donald-trump-on-meet-the-press-annotated/?utm_term=.cce63ed10e85

            Trump was turned down by Penn at first so he went to another college for two years until brother Fred got a friend to get him in. Trump had problem at Fordham University for blowing off classes. At Penn his study group people complained that he wasn’t prepared and didn’t like to study.

            Obama was a totally different story.
            http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1990/2/6/obama-named-new-law-review-president/
            You will notice that this is from a 1990 publication put ot by Harvard. You do know what the Harvard Law Review is.

          • Rodney Steward

            Lets just stick to FACTS, in just a few short months Trump has made Obama look like a uneducated clown, that has NO LEGACY what so ever and why he’ll go down in history as the worst President in EVER!! People are already saying, Obama WHO!!! LOL SO SWEEEET !!!

          • bobnstuff

            We still have the ACA and as much as the republican try much of it will live on. We have the recovered economy. Bin Laden is still dead and GM is still in business. There are more jobs in solar then in coal. The list goes on and there is nothing Trump can do to change history.

          • Rodney Steward

            The ACA is dead, and Bin Laden was saved for him, and well, I’m a GM man!! Trump isn’t trying to change History, but the left over from Obama are trying, statues Antifa, BLM, flooded us with MS-13, everything immoral and sick that was Opey the brown clowns doings!

          • bobnstuff

            The ACA is a law that just won’t die. It can’t be repealed by the republican, only changed and they haven’t even done that. Trump is going to try doing it with EO’s the very same thing Obama did the the right said was illegal.

            I do love the myths about Obama and illegals. The fact that he deported more people then Trump over the same time period seems to be lost. The fact that he doubled the border agents on the Mexican border is also forgotten.

            So you don’t like the fact that a group got fed up with Trumps fascists and have started fighting back. After all Antifa is a reaction to our fascist President and his good people. I guess if the were racist burning crosses and hanging blacks it would be OK. After all Trump has great support from that group.

          • Rodney Steward

            You’re really that uninformed aren’t you, or just believe that everything the Dem. thugs say, BLM came out under Obama bobby, remember all the BS from Obama about cops that formed BLM, and then there was Ferguson, Baltimore, Milwaukee and Charlotte, all this robbing, looting and burning by the Negro was under Obama, NOT Trump!! And ACA is dead in 13 states and growing! And the border under Obama was another one of his lies, remember Trum said the borders had to be beefed up, well he really did it, and Trump has not turned out to be a total LIAR like YO BOY WAS!!

          • bobnstuff

            Yes, BLM is in response to the shooting of blacks by bad cops. You can shoot an unarmed black if you are a cop and get away with it in our country.

            The ACA is still the law of the land and is still in all 50 states. The market place is still open in every state also.

            Trump said the borders had to be beefed up but did nothing and today there are 300 less border agents then on the day he took office. Obama mover agents from the northern border to the Mexican border because the republicans would give him money to hire additional people.

          • Rodney Steward

            Believe what ever the Dums. say, here’s another group of new thugs YO black grand puppies will be proud of, the NEW Black Identity Extremist (BIE) they claim to much worse than the BLM PU’s!

          • bobnstuff

            So are the lynching people yet. Do they have cross burning in your yard? Are burning white folks churches? Are they holding marches through white people neighborhoods? If not the the KKK still gets the crown for being the most racist.

          • Rodney Steward

            Got to do better than that, the KKK hasn’t been anything serious in 35 years!! All of our problem is blacks, mexicans and muslims that has now joined the Antifa bunch!

          • bobnstuff

            Right. the unicorns came and all the Klan members rode away on them.

          • Rodney Steward

            Now you’re using your head, about time!!

          • Retired

            Obama had Jarret to do the writing ,get your stories right . Yes they were bused through Mexico a group sponsored by the UN . The kids all had clean clothes and a fresh bottle of water in hand as they crossed the border , it was even on the fake news networks that you follow .Just like the UN is behind the refugees in the EU -Canada -USA and Australia .

          • DrBillLemoine

            ‘not stopping all travel banns…’ means what in English?
            Where in ‘far east’ is ISIS in full swing? Do you mean drug dealers in Philippines? Has Trump spread ISIS to that region now when they were once contained in Syria-Iraq?
            Obama, remember, was blocked ‘from day one’ by McConnell and Boehner couldn’t get his Freedom Caucus under control, had to resign. Neither can Ryan reign in those dissidents who are Trump supporters.
            If you mean immigration enforcement prior to Trump that showed decreasing border crossing, I’d call that good progress, no wall necessary (another unfulfilled ‘on day one’ promise by Trump).
            I’m supportive of existing law which puts border crossers through a legal process to deport them when caught or granted asylum for escaping drug smuggling, rape, murder and mayhem at home in Central America. You don’t see any difference despite clear law.
            I don’t know your town to reply. There’s nothing sacred or sacrosanct about any cadre of Italians or ascendance of Italians over Mexicans. Your bigotry slip is showing.
            I know of no UN bussed children. It’s faux news. What specifically is your ‘Latino society’, another distraction from facts?
            You can see I’m far more focused in thought and policy, let alone enforcement, than you are.

          • Retired

            You are really playing space cadet tonight ,better lay off of what you are drinking . Instead of posting BS you should read what goes on in the world .The movement of ISIS went on before Trump was even elected ,remember your pols had Clinton winning ????

          • DrBillLemoine

            The subject is enhancing use of coal fired power plants. Who’s the space cadet? You righties don’t recognize faux news from substance. I’ve far more insight into this top than you have shown in hours of posting multiple comments. You by contrast chase the rabbits wherever they lead when you front them for substance on an issue. It’s you righties who perpetuate the drug trafficking through the border, can’t find a mule with increasing patrolmen and dogs to sniff out the stuff. What’s going on there you haven’t begun to explain. Clinton would have won apart from you falling for faux news, bots and fantasy stories from Russian mafia pulling Trump’s strings–to this day he dodges, hides and evades responsibility for collusion: called obstruction of justice. Wait till Mueller is finished with racketeering, treason, money laundering and related charges. Getting closer. Hillary should have won, and you know it by your and congress and Trump’s cover ups.

          • ezekiel22

            Oh honey you need to give it the Hell up. Mueller has not found any collusion nor has the intelligence committees by their own admissions. As a matter of fact collusion itself is not illegal. Obstruction of justice I think not. The old hag Killary is guilty of that as is a few other former appointees so why don’t you cry for equal prosecution? I would at least respect that. You want RICO actions? Go for it! Again equal prosecution under the law that way Slick Willy and Wildebeest get another cell courtesy of pay to play. lol Treason accusations at best are the desperate cries of senile old people.
            You might also go learn some more about the environment. Your lack of understanding I thought disappeared decades ago. First of all dams have actually screwed environments and multiple ecosystems. Plus. If you actually studied the economics of coal mining compared to the economy of oil and gas you will see the industry disappearing of its own accord soon. The price of the natural gas that does burn cleaner or cleanest is contingent upon the use and cost effectiveness of fracking which opened up fields for exploitation. As far as nuclear energy goes you show no understanding at all. It seems that the reactors have been changed since Fred Flintstone’s day. It seems the nuclear waste has been drastically reduced. What really sucks though is the progressive communist goals have nothing to do with reality. The only thing they are interested in is enslaving people just like they did under Hitler, Lenin, Il Duce, Mao, as well as pol Pot. Their enemies besides truth and God was also History which they are desperately trying to erase.

          • DrBillLemoine

            Still with the ‘honey’ stuff? Are you queer?
            We don’t know what Mueller has found directly as he’s still working the process, but we know lots by who he talks to and how it’s interpreted in reputable media you don’t heed.
            Also, you still transfer your own sins to Hillary when it’s Jared Kushner who is doing what you accuse her of.
            You overlook also that Hillary isn’t in office; Trump and company are. The Clintons are old hat now but you can’t let go of your old comfortable bone, Rover.
            It was only ‘senility’ of Republicans toward Nixon about indictable offenses in office, till he was indicted–remember now? Your long term memory is gone and your current sources are still inadequate faux news with your comments here.
            You should review the story of environment around Columbia River dams, posing problems that were solved. Ditto, other places, not outright banning of today’s new power source–solar–like from your ilk.
            You make a good case against Trump supporting coal power against solar, et al. Give him a call.
            It’s not ‘waste’ that stops nuclear expansion today but susceptibility to terrorist attack. Again, no understanding of the issues by you. Go back to your lazy boy and tune in MSNBC to learn a little.
            You are just as superficial as always, even to combining the concepts ‘progressive’ and ‘communist’. Nobody ever called Putin, Xi or Castro a progressive.

          • Retired

            You worry about Trump and Russia but yet you are a member of the Communist party ,why is that ????

    • chw2000

      Well, well, well. If it isn’t DrBullshitt. Once again you think because you have a Dr. in math you’re an expert on everything. Just like Bobnstuff, you assholes think the sun rises and sets out your ass. Go back and pollute the minds of your “captive audience” in the class room. You’re nothing but a liberal troll. You love the Democrats no matter what they do and hate the Republicans no matter what they do. Go back to your little “safe place” and you won’t have to worry about it. You’e aa ass hole!

      • bobnstuff

        Do you have problems with your ass hole? I think you must since you are obsessed with calling people one and you seem to be very full of it. You have a real problem with anyone that has an education or uses facts, something you are very weak in. Did you drop out of school to go sleep in the mud.

        • Retired

          bobnbull ,see you are still alive ????

          • Rodney Steward

            And his ass hole too!!

          • Retired

            That is what he talks out of .

          • Rodney Steward

            It’s sure full of CRAP!!

        • chw2000

          NO, I have no problem with you. You see Bob, you ARE an ass hole. And as far as education, I have an engineering degree. I’m sure that’s well above your GED. You’re an ass hole Bob and it appears there are many more people that agree with me.

          • bobnstuff

            Gee I’m impressed a degree in engineering. I owned an Engineering and Design company. I have also taught college classes. Here is how I know your level of education and your IQ, you keep repeating the same crude insult over and over. I have never know anyone with any brain to do that. Do you have someone to wipe that little stream of drool coming out of the corner of your mouth?

    • Retired

      If they were to build a nuke power plant you would also bitch , The only way to get clean power is from the sun . But I am sure you go shopping at all the China whare house stores that pollute the air with all the Semis running nation wide .We never had that many Semis when the US was a producing country . Talk about being two faced !!!

      • DrBillLemoine

        Yes, I thought nuclear power was good till the era of terrorism started; now, oppose.
        Hydropower is also carbon free, don’t you know. Even natural gas burns far cleaner than anything but solar/hydro. After Trump, we may be behind the environmental protection curve for decades, behind China and India the 2 biggest nations who can threaten our economic supremacy–and clean land/air/water. About shopping and sales, talk to Trump whose branded products come from abroad where nations are big polluters. I buy American. You are grasping at straws with the semi diesel argument. Transport companies are switching to gas power, not gasoline. Talk to your wealthy investors and Republicans about local production. Except for Buffett they’re all Republicans. Ya gotta go with what exists and push for change; oops, my mistake; you are Republican and don’t believe.

        • Retired

          The good old Union talk ??? What ever has a tail pipe pollutes . We did get change and you do NOT like it . You would be surprised how many Business people are Democrats , they like all those Tax brakes you and I do NOT get .

          • DrBillLemoine

            Don’t you know Los Angeles switched bus engine fuels and cut smog? It works; mankind can influence climate directly including global warming. You got a fixation on ‘unions’ which disappearance has stagnated millions of worker wages since Reagan times. Take a hint, combine that thought with current Trump base demands for more income and try to change your thinking.
            If you look at Republican tax policy, it favors BIG business, not ordinary citizen/workers starting small businesses. Even current tax reform ideas emerging do not do enough for small businesses, a chronic failure of Republicans who cater to their fat cat donors, not base voters. That’s proof positive of my assertion that base Republican voters aren’t thinking for themselves and switching their candidate support to Dems. The middle class ordinarily isn’t getting nor using the tax breaks (notice spelling–don’t you google at all?). In my current business, I find few regular people who can understand how tax policy for businesses can improve their own lot with a little more knowledge I can supply. Seems like you could stand to profit from hiring me, too.

          • Retired

            That is why the Unions sat and watched all our manufacturing go to China and pollute the air there and all the Shit hits the west coast . Your Fat cats sitting at Union Headquarters didn’t care as they were set for life .Jobs were disappearing before R Reagan and you know it .The only thing you supply is Union and Democrat propaganda . None of your BS Lies have anything to do with Trump .

        • Rodney Steward

          Solar still can’t pay for itself, not perfected yet!

          • Retired

            Same goes with the wind farms , at night with the winds dye down they come to a stand still .

          • Rodney Steward

            Got a IN-Law that travels all over the country working on those things, and he said he hope we NEVER go to all solar or wind farms, constant work keeping them up!

    • Rodney Steward

      You’re a Christian man supposedly, we’re living in the end times according to the Bible, you should know there’s not going to be anything left for anyone’s kids, the world will be GONE, Cod!

      • DrBillLemoine

        No man knows the date or the hour if we are in the end times pending Armageddon. It’s one of God’s mysteries according to the bible. You should read It some time. Meanwhile God DOES tell us in scripture to be good stewards of nature, not what you are thinking.

        • Rodney Steward

          Exactly, but the war I’m talking of is the race war that Obama wanted SOOOO bad, and remember, the teachers union gave millions to Obama and why all the bad teachers got to keep their jobs and finish off our kids like Hitler did in Germany!! We have the Antfia, BLM, Black panthers, now the new BIE that is to be much worse than the BLM!! Hitler had his brown shirts and SS!!

          • DrBillLemoine

            What is ‘exactly’? You supported knowing this is the end times, now you ‘exactly’ reject it? You make less sense than usual. Stick to chewing bubble gum and walking at the same time.
            Your education scenario is nonsense; are you an almost dropout, had to join the military to stay in school? No history, no understanding of Hitler documentaries on AHS cable, no straight thinking. You need to get out in the world more, meet people, test your wacky ideas in the public forum and see how they are nuts. All those names are a blur in your empty head.

          • Rodney Steward

            Sorry Cod, you’re blinded by the Dem. brainwashing! http:///therealrevo.com/blog

  • barbarakelly

    Well it is about time. It has become well known now that What ever obama did was not good for the American People. He was a fraud and illegal. He lied about everything—so why people SHOULD WE NOT UNDO EVERYTHING THAT HE PUT IN PLACE. ——- His damn goal was to bankrupt us into his favor of his muslim friends.!!!!

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      You are absolutely correct. EVERYTHING Oblowhard did should be abolished, repealed, rescinded and backed out of existence. In fact I still believe he was NOT a legal and valid president using Nancy Pelosi’s very suspicious actions with regard to vetting him and approving / allowing his name to appear on state ballots. She deliberately pulled some shenanigans that should have been challenged when she did them.

  • cathylovesyou

    Good move on EPA junk. Obama did all his communistic harm he could to America the land that he and his whatever hate.

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