GOP blocks provision to require women to register for draft

by Associated Press | FOXNews.com  |  published on May 17, 2016


Buckling under conservative pressure, the Republican-led House Rules Committee pulled a legislative sleight of hand and stripped a provision from the annual defense policy bill that would have required women between the ages of 18 and 25 to sign up for a military draft.

The committee’s chairman, Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas, said in a statement Tuesday the action was taken to prevent what he called a “reckless policy” from moving forward without closer study of its impact.

“I have the utmost respect and deepest appreciation for the young women who bravely volunteer to serve our country, but I am adamantly opposed to coercing America’s daughters to sign up for the Selective Service at 18 years of age,” Sessions said.

The Rules Committee wields substantial influence over legislation before it moves to the House floor. The full House planned to start work on the bill on Tuesday. A Senate bill does include a version of the provision, so the congressional debate over whether women should register isn’t over.

Conservatives have warned that requiring women to sign up for a military draft is a dangerous blurring of gender lines.

  • Ken says

    What happened to Equal Rights? There is nothing confusing about it.

  • AKLady

    Equality is just that, equal.

    Women Viet Cong were the most feared in the Vietnam War.

    These women are noted warriors of past ages:

    5th Century CE – Princess Sela
    529 CE – Princess Halima
    530 CE – Tomyris
    590 CE – The Christian Synod of Druim Cett ordered that British women should no longer go into battle alongside their men
    598 – 623 CE – Princess Zhao Pingyang
    624 CE – Hind al-Hunnud
    625 – 705 CE – Wu Chao, known as ‘The Empress Wu’
    625 CE – Nusaybah bint Ka’ab
    c.632 – 705 CE – Apranik
    639 CE – Negan
    7th century CE – Dahia Al-kahina
    722 CE – Queen Aethelburgh
    c.730s CE (active in) – Parsbit (also as Prisbit)
    c.750 CE – Azad Deylami / Azad-e Daylami
    c.783 CE – Fastrada
    c.815 – 838 CE – Banu
    890 – 969 CE – Olga of Kiev (Princess Olga)
    869 – 918 CE – Ethelfleda

  • stan lee

    The argument for pro-conscription of women is the fact that women do men’s jobs these days.(in civilian life) I think it’s a flimsy argument, women have their place in serving our country in times of war, as do men have theirs.. There’s no overlooking the general difference in strength of men as opposed to women. There may be exceptions to that, but by and large, men on the average can muster more brute strength in dire situations than women.

    Anyone who accepts that females can close with an enemy in wartime and prevail hasn’t been exposed to face to face engagement that is required of combat troops. Just because males have faced conscription and females not ,doesn’t demand conscription of females. Females have served in all national emergencies, assigned to military specialties appropriate to female assets. It need not be as ground troops subjected to the direct heat of battle. Those females were courageous in that they weren’t called into the service, they volunteered their abilities to the services.

    Victory over dangerous enemies is the sole mission, and not social engineering with our military. In war,we are required to place as much military power into the field as possible. Our services should not be prey to the ideologies of Obama, who never served a minute in our armed forces…Thank God.

    • AKLady

      Pound for pound, women are just as strong as men. Most women simply do not have the need to and/or opportunity to develop their strength.

      Oh and adrenaline can boost strength beyond anything you might imagine. I once witnessed a woman lift a car off a child, her child.

      • stan lee

        Wars are not fought predicated upon “pound for pound” match-ups. Yes, Adrenaline can boost, but won’t guarantee adrenaline-like consistent performance over a sustained period.
        The German Army which invaded Russia in its Operation Barbarossa was fed on tablets laced with Chrystal-Meth. They went sleepless until they could see the skyline of Moscow, then they ran out of their ersatz adrenaline.
        Their skeleton parts are still being found today.
        I suppose what they didn’t have were some strong women in their ranks.
        The “pound for pound” thing is a kind sentiment given to someone who isn’t adequate enough to fit the situation at hand, unless you’re comparing prize fighters.

        • AKLady

          Awe, Stan, you might want to walk through a little history. Your knowledge of women is sorely lacking.

          5th Century CE – Princess Sela
          529 CE – Princess Halima
          530 CE – Tomyris
          590 CE – The Christian Synod of Druim Cett ordered that British women should no longer go into battle alongside their men
          598 – 623 CE – Princess Zhao Pingyang
          624 CE – Hind al-Hunnud
          625 – 705 CE – Wu Chao, known as ‘The Empress Wu’
          625 CE – Nusaybah bint Ka’ab
          c.632 – 705 CE – Apranik
          639 CE – Negan
          7th century CE – Dahia Al-kahina
          722 CE – Queen Aethelburgh
          c.730s CE (active in) – Parsbit (also as Prisbit)
          c.750 CE – Azad Deylami / Azad-e Daylami
          c.783 CE – Fastrada
          c.815 – 838 CE – Banu
          890 – 969 CE – Olga of Kiev (Princess Olga)
          869 – 918 CE – Ethelfleda

          • I Seigel

            Joan of Arc should be on this list, no?

          • AKLady

            Joan came along a lot later in history 1412 CE.
            The list only goes through 918 CE.
            I am sure there are more women in the five additional centures.

    • bobnstuff

      If as you say we need as many fighters in the field but then say we shouldn’t use women which cuts the pool of people in half. so which do you believe? Women in the battle field is not new, just in the US. Obama is the President of the United States of America and the most powerful leader in the free world. He was elected twice and has not wasted any lives by starting wars we shouldn’t be in or sending our military into harms way to protect our oil companies interests. If service in the military is important and make a president better at commanding the military explain GW Bush’s use of force. Our Military today is the strongest fighting force on earth and is going through it’s largest overhaul in history in case you haven’t noticed.

      • stan lee

        Let’s cut out the high-minded philosophizing….it’s all B.S. to nowhere.
        No women relegated to units dedicated to combat planning! Isolated cases where enemy infiltration in rear areas force a combat event, then females have no alternative but to man a defensive weapon. This is a self-explanatory exception.
        The U.S. military today has been cut to 1939 levels and there is an idiot C.I.C. who happens to have an agenda of weakening and disgracing the United States.
        That is my opinion, you’re welcome to yours and that is the way it is

        • bobnstuff

          Do you know that we don’t fight wars the same as we did in 1939. We have a few new systems that we didn’t have back then like a anti missile system in Eastern Europe and drones. We also don’t have troops doing things like KP anymore. It’s a whole new world. Have you noticed the new fighter jet that’s just being finished, the F35, or the new class of battle ships that are doing there shake down cruse. You are repeating the Fox line on defense with out checking the facts. The US is the strongest military on earth and not by just a little. http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
          http://www.strongestinworld.com/top-ten-powerful-military/
          http://www.shockpedia.com/29-most-powerful-armies-in-the-world/
          Go check the facts if you don’t believe me. I’m sure you also didn’t check to see who else is putting women in combat unites.http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130125-women-combat-world-australia-israel-canada-norway/

          • stan lee

            We, the USA, didn’t fight a war in 1939. “KP” is no barometer of military excellence or lack of it. The F-35 IS finished as a prototype, now there are three versions under test for three different service applications. Stop reaching, kid, I’m not buying.
            I really think you’d prefer women in combat so long as you could avoid being a man.

          • bobnstuff

            I don’t want anyone in combat. Who has been president while the F35 has been developed? By not having service men work in the mess or in the motor pool and a number of other jobs that were done by servicemen we don’t need the grunts that once helped keep the numbers of servicemen larger. We also are not at war so we don’t need the larger military of a country at war. The new hardware is changing how we do things and if you can’t see that then you are not paying attention. We have a lean clean fighting machine with the best military in history. Don’t take my word for it, check the facts.

          • stan lee

            Well, you’ve got it all solved. But, your caution indicated at the end of your delusion tells me you have no confidence in what you think you know..
            At least you’re that rational, which isn’t much.

          • bobnstuff

            I’m 100% sure of my knowledge of the state of our military. I have given links supporting my views and have taken the time to look at the facts, the numbers and know that we have the strongest military in the world. Over the last seven years the military has done a first rate job of moving into the new world of tech warfare. You have just sat back and baited me will no facts backing up your point of view. If you don’t believe that the United States of America has the strongest military in the world put up facts to prove your point, links to knowledgeable sources if you can find them.

    • I Seigel

      Everyone here seems to be so pro-Israel. Have you noticed that compulsory service for men AND women seems to be working out quite well for them? And we’re not talking about drafting women here – at least, not yet. “The Draft” could take many different forms, not just military, if and when it’s initiated again.

      • stan lee

        You compare approx. 8 million which is Israel’s population, of which approx. 6 million are Jews of all ages, some of which are military age. That doesn’t make for much to choose from for the Israeli armed forces. That nation is virtually in the midst of a sea of Islam, most of which when they think of Israel, the thought is of totally destroying it. It doesn’t take much to conclude that Israel lives is in a very precarious situation.
        Service age Israeli females are conscripted to train in the basics of military service, they are not assigned to “line” units, they support them in the many positions required of a modern, hi-tech.military and become part of the IDF’s reserve. 6 million Jews in that sea of hostility have no other alternative but to be an armed nation for its begrudged survival. Israel depends upon a well-trained reserve to reinforce its regular military almost immediately. The “regulars” then become leadership cadre of mobilized units in event of invasion.
        All reserves are at instant recall in national emergency. That does not mean its young females are sent to infantry, artillery, and armored units.
        The situation for the USA is so different, to use Israel as a comparison is ridiculous, except for the fact that Israelis realize the gravity of their situation and would volunteer for military training, even without conscription.
        That’s a far cry from the slackers here in the USA who are long on argument to the nth degree and all for letting someone else do the volunteering.
        At one time, the USA was a spirited, patriotic, nation. Not any more! Apart from our well-trained regular military, spectating has become the specialty of the present young male generation. Volunteers are “the few.”
        There’s been only talk of both sexes undergoing conscription after registering at a certain age. I think that’s related to the fact that females now perform certain jobs that once were reserved for only males. Those days are over, but no reason for impressment of females into high-risk land war combat units.
        I believe registering is the least one should do at a prescribed age. As you have stated, it’s “talk” and no draft has become a fact of present American life, just a whole lot of speculation about it..

        • I Seigel

          And just like I said, The Draft can take many different forms. Compulsory national service doesn’t have to mean front line combat.

  • mudguy1

    The sad part of all this is that any Republicans even supported this.

  • bobnstuff

    If we must have a draft it should reflect the times we live in. Women now do every job men do and vice a versa. We have given women the same rights as men and there for they should have the same rights when it comes to the draft. If the conservatives are against registering women maybe they should stop registering men as well.

    • AKLady

      The draft ended a lng time ago.

      • bobnstuff

        They stopped drafting people but the system is still in place and can be started up to draft people anytime.
        https://www.sss.gov/

        • AKLady

          I am quite aware of that fact.
          Career military parents.
          Career milutary spouses — two KIA, buried at Arlington.
          I served.
          I have children serving in Afghanistan.

    • stan lee

      Yes, let’s be sure to inform an enemy that times have changed and actions should reflect the times you live in. Try that on a horde of crazies living by standards of 1400 years ago and who want you dead.

      • bobnstuff

        ISIL has lost half the ground they once held with only 250 boots on the ground. Have you noticed the lack of body bags at the airports. We no longer need to have forces on the ground to kill people. Your horde knows times have changed.

  • Edward Czyz

    but I am adamantly opposed to coercing America’s daughters to sign up for the Selective Service at 18 years of age,” Sessions said.
    But, you are not opposed to coercing America’s sons to sign up? Where’s the “FAIRNESS” and “GENDER EQUALITY” women are always screaming about? What’s good for the gander is good for the goose! Make every woman sign up through the draft….they can fight for this country just as men have for the past 245 years. Quit discriminating against the male gender.

    • AKLady

      That, sir, is the problem — women were not allowed to fight.
      Combat positions were only opened to women inm December 2015.

      • bobnstuff

        In the US military, but other countries have had women in front line duty for many years.

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