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GOP senator: Obamacare replacement has ‘zero’ chance of passing Senate as is

May 5, 2017

Hours after the GOP-controlled House narrowly passed a bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare, a Republican senator said the bill has “zero chance” to pass the Senate as is.

Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., said the sweeping health care passed Thursday will not pass quickly through the Senate without major adjustments. The New York Post reported that moderate senators are concerned about the bill’s Medicaid reductions.

“The safest thing to say is there will be a Senate bill, but it will look at what the House has done and see how much of that we can incorporate in a product that works for us in reconciliation,” Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., told The Washington Examiner.

The revised American Health Care Act passed Thursday on a 217-213 vote.

42 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • texexpatriate says:

    What Corker means is, “We’ll change it and pass it.” So much for trusting the GOP. The hief difference between Democrats is that Democrats want to destroy the U.S. with aggressive actions and the Republicans want to slow them down.

  • Irene Elizabeth Grooms says:

    We sent you to do a job that the democrats and some republicans put on us now do it or when your termis up up out goes you also.

  • Rodney Steward says:

    A great plan would be in place if EVERYONE was forced to go by the same set of rules, and yes I’m talking about the Gov.! They do work for us and should and should go by the rules set for us, we know we’re not Gods and above the law!!

  • Rob Manwiller says:

    +To Whom It May Concern: Senator Corker is part of the “SWAMP”! Count on it!

    1. Ramon1710 . says:

      The Corker Bill turned the treaty provision on its head. Instead of requiring two-thirds of the senators present to approve, the bill explicitly demands 67 votes to stop the president.

      Dumb Bob made the monkey’s F’d up deal with Iran possible.

  • mwood13 says:

    anytime you take anything you did not pay for you are a thug

  • mwood13 says:

    for those republicans who support the bill don’t look for a long political career

  • Ramon1710 . says:

    Leave it to the NY Post to call leftist RINOs “moderate”.

  • rewindpulaski says:

    JFK – “ask not, what your country can do for you; ask, what you can do for your country..”
    Today’s Democrat – “ask not, what you can do for your country; ask what your country can do for you…”
    Ironic, eh?

    1. bobnstuff says:

      You have the other side of it, the I got mine so who care about you and the it’s not fair he got something and I didn’t. It’s in how a country treats the least of it’s citizens that tells you about it’s values. What are the real values of the Right wing of the Republican party?

      1. maxx says:

        Funny, you are espousing the agenda of socialism/communism. I’m sure you know that. Obamacare was never about health care. It was the largest forced “redistribution of wealth” under the disguise of ” social fairness” in American history and redistribution of wealth is and has always been on top of the list of the socialist/communist agenda. Why do you think the socialism experiment has failed miserably wherever it was tried.

        1. bobnstuff says:

          I hate to bust you bubble but some of the most successful countries today are socialist.
          You do know that Canada has universal healthcare. The wealthy have always been expected to pay more taxes then the poor in our country.

          1. mwood13 says:

            no socialist country is fit to visit let alone live in, they sell their freedom so they do not have to earn a living

          2. bobnstuff says:

            So you are saying Canada isn’t free? Some of the most free countries are also socialist. You seem to think people don’t work in socialist countries.

          3. rewindpulaski says:

            You’re saying Canada is a socialist country? If I say that to my Canadian friends and my Canadian family I’m libel to get a “5-finger sandwich” right to the right side of my mouth.. or a size 10 boot right up my ____! That would be especially true of my Canadian friends who escaped from East Germany (a one time big time socialist “paradise”) and settled in Canada some 45 years ago… BTW; Canada is a parliamentary democracy NOT a socialist government or “country”… Try again?

          4. bobnstuff says:

            Get ready to get punched. They have socialized healthcare, subsidized higher education, house cost control, welfare and aid for the elderly. Socialism is a economic system not a form of government.

          5. rewindpulaski says:

            Socialism IS a form of government – which Canada does not have – and trying to reframe it as some sort of “economic system” is just a “face saving measure” on your part. The Canadian economic system; BTW; combines elements of private enterprise and public enterprise (which means, in part, it has a health system that is considered to be “the” Canadian health care “system” which, like their education system – that you mentioned – is a subsidized system). Like their education system, health care is paid for via taxation of their citizens. Big taxation to make it survive.. If you want to call that “socialized health care” so be it.. by the way; “socialized” doesn’t mean “socialism”. apples and oranges – apples and oranges.. Suggestion? You need to research and study more and type less.. AND as far as “getting punched”? I’m not even going to insult them by trying to call their economic system as some sort of “socialism”. It’s not and I’m safe…

          6. Rob Manwiller says:

            +bobnstuff – You’re as delusional as it gets if you think Socialism ‘works for the people’! Sheeeesh! Move the F**K home, ding-bat!

        2. McFerguson says:


      2. rewindpulaski says:

        I’ve heard that particular mantra for at least 30 years now and it just is not true. It’s especially not true when you are talking about the United States and its citizens… You’ve convinced yourself that most in this country don’t care about others because “they got theirs”. If you bother to google and research you’ll see this. The majority of those making 50K or more contribute to their churches or other organizations at a much higher % that anywhere else in the world. Those making 75K or more contribute at an even greater %.. AND our “poor” are some of the “richest” individuals you’ll find anywhere. Those making between 30K & 35K have a home over their heads (own or rent); an automobile (and sometimes two); cell phones, HDTVs (usually 2 and sometimes 3) and cable service. All are clothed… All are fed routinely either at school or (in the case of adults and children) via churches, food stamps, EBT cards, or free food banks (I’ve worked some of those – have you?) Health care? Local clinics, low health care co-ops, and churches supply and now, w/ federal and state ins in the mix, “free” or very affordable HC.. Also emergency rooms which don’t turn people w/ actual emergencies away unless they can’t supply such specific service.. Doctors and nurses never let people die.. How dare you imply otherwise.. As you can see, your response insults me, and many of your fellow citizens that are doing the heavy lifting and have been for years now. I take great umbrage to what you’ve said. I don’t expect an apology but instead I recommend that you do more research and get your head out of your ideology and actually work to help others before you respond in such a way again…

  • itsfun says:

    That’s the way it is suppose to work. One side passes a bill, the other side makes changes and the bill goes back to approval or more changes until both sides agree on a bill.

  • Humble Servant says:

    I think this group of politicians are working from a place of how can we take care of ALL the peoples needs and not what is good for the country. The biggest problem is not that we can’t get healthcare it is that healthcare is not really healthcare but a big money making machine. Fix the broken healthcare system and this problem with WHO will pay goes away. Paying for healthcare would not be a big problem if the government would not have created this form of insurance system. You are suppose to be the best and brightest now prove it to the American people. Do the right thing!!!!

    1. Ramon1710 . says:

      Congress…the best and brightest. Ha! Good one!

      After researching public records, newspaper articles, civil court transcripts, and criminal records, Capitol Hill Blue discovered that:

      * 29 members of Congress have been accused of spousal abuse.

      * 7 have been arrested for fraud.

      * 19 have been accused of writing bad checks.

      * 117 have bankrupted at least two businesses.

      * 3 have been arrested for assault.

      * 71 have credit reports so bad they can’t qualify for a credit card.

      * 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges.

      * 8 have been arrested for shoplifting.

      * 21 are current defendants in lawsuits.

      * And in 1998 alone, 84 were stopped for drunk driving, but released after they claimed Congressional immunity.

      Capitol Hill Blue did not list the names of all the individual members of Congress accused of the various crimes, but did note that some were “serial offenders” with extensive tracks records of fraud or violence.

      For example, reported Capitol Hill Blue, Rep. Corrine Brown (D-FL) has a “long, consistent record of deceit,” including tens of thousands of dollars in unpaid bills, allegations of bribery, and numerous lawsuits against her. And Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) faces charges that he beat his wife, has a history of barroom brawls while mayor of Alexandria, and has publicly stated that he likes “to hit people.”

      1. maxx says:

        D.C. was originally created because of the huge physical distance between the seat of the government (Congress) and their constituency and non existent communication channels. This partially ended with the invention of the Telegraph and then the telephone. Today with almost instant communication there is no reason for members of Congress to be anywhere but in their home states close to and under the scrutiny of their constituents. D.C. exists because government has been allowed to grow massively out of control. These people in Congress are some of the most corrupt individual in America. Away from their constituency they can live and do things they would not consider doing back home. They have made themselves the lords and ladies of a massive feudal system enterprise that is pretty much unaccountable to anybody anymore while making us their subjects. This is NOT what the Founders had intended but probably expected when they left us the Article V Convention of States as a solution to government tyranny and corruption.

    2. maxx says:

      You are correct. The health industry’s primary focus is on “MONEY” not with health care. It is full of corruption and price gouging instead of being a humane human service provider. It may have started out as a “not for profit” industry but changed it’s focus long ago. It is now run and controlled by Corporate Business interests and Big Pharma. The ,massive expansion of physical plant sites in the past eight years proves without a doubt that the health care industry is flush with cash to make more cash. Where is the humanitarianism aspect of health care? There is none. When one goes into a hospital the first thing they ask you is for your insurance card and not “what is wrong”. Like education, health care and health insurance is nothing but big business taking more than their fair share of ones income. Western medicine does not practice “preventative medicine it practices “crisis medicine” because that is where the money is and the individual is under maximum pressure to pay anything they ask. That is what is wrong with our health care system and that will not be changed by a government that only cares about money and control of the public.

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  • McFerguson says:

    The House bill will not get through the Senate without some major changes, but the fact that ObamaCare has been issued a death sentence, a lethal blow, is grounds for celebration in and of itself. We’ll see what transpires from here, but going forward something must be done to reinvigorate the insurance market which had been allowed to die on the vine by the Obama administration. Since competition drives the market, laws must be modified to insure that interstate purchases of health insurance must be the operative choice.

    1. rewindpulaski says:

      Mandated Federal Health Insurance (disguised as health care) – in the form of Obama Care is going to (finally) go away. This new insurance (again, disguised as health care) IS NOT mandated and, if for no other reason, we should be celebrating our return to choice (and our return to Democratic Republic principles and the US Constitution). BTW; note that much in the new bill becomes the responsibility of the states – which it should have been all along.

      1. McFerguson says:

        Agreed, but once an entitlement is given it’s hard politically to take back. And the people, after ObamaCare, are more likely now to view health care as a government-provided “right.” I’d like to see a free market driven healthcare system where a vital insurance market is a key ingredient and the government is kept at arms length.

    2. maxx says:

      Interstate commerce of insurance products WILL BE THE PRIME INGREDIENT if this is to survive at all. Insurance companies put out of business by Obama have not thrown away billions of dollars worth of software that was used to process policies. It was archived and could be resurrected with a few minor modification and be up an running very quickly. Government should allow that to happen but I believe they, the government, like the control they now have over our very lives. We would never have voluntarily handed over that power to them. The democrats took it by nefarious and illegal actions. Repeal the law and let the insurance industry do what it does but with some commerce price gouging restrictions put in place first.

      1. McFerguson says:

        You’re so right. Obama, at heart, is an ideological Marxist and did what Marxists do. Expand government under the illusion that he cares so much about helping the “people.” The body politic should have been on “alert” after Obama appointed some 37 “Czars” at the top of his administration, one of whom was Van Jones – a self-admitted communist – as his Green Jobs Czar. And the first thing Obama did was go after the health care of the people with this half-assed government mandated health care he knew – knew! – would fail, after which the people would beg for a full blown “single payer system.” Then we’d have the Euro-weenie healthcare system that Obama wanted: Total government control. When the government has you by the balls, the hearts and minds of the people are sure to follow.

  • Richard Bagenstose says:

    so why didn’t they pass the bill last month and let the senate make the adjustments

  • bobnstuff says:

    Let’s hope the Senate can create a bill that fulfills President Trumps campaign promises at least a little. Passing a bad bill just so you can say you passed a bill is stupid but passing a bill that hurts more people then it helps is criminal.

    1. itsfun says:

      Its going to take both the House and Senate to create a bill both houses can agree on. Its anyone’s guess how many times it may go back and forth before a agreement can be made. Hopefully they can make a bill, both sides of the aisle can vote for, not just one party.

      1. bobnstuff says:

        It sure would be nice to see the congress working together for a change. You can be pretty sure the Freedom Coalition will never vote for a bill that the Senate crafted.

        1. itsfun says:

          Isn’t it just amazing (terrible) how divided our country has become? If they wanted, both parties could get together and hammer out a good health care system. I don’t know if both the left and right will ever get together on anything again. It has become all about political parties going after power and money. They tell us how they are for the “people”, but it seems that is the thing they care about.

          1. bobnstuff says:

            I keep hoping the moderates in both parties can take charge of things like they once did. I blame the media for treating politics like a sporting event where you have one team win and one lose. How many times have you seen people say you lost get over it. When you have only winners and losers everyone in fact is the losers.

          2. itsfun says:

            Exactly; last week I posted that I thought I was reading the sports page when reading a article on health care. These are peoples lives they are messing with, not winning the “little brown jug” or “Stanley Cup”.

          3. rewindpulaski says:

            YOU need to read Daniel Greenfield’s “the Civil War is Here” (it’s an article and a “quick read”). Have you noticed that after the last 4 elections of a Republican for President, suddenly the country is “greatly divided” and “doomed” (at least according to the MSM).. There’s a reason for that and you’ll find it in the article.

          4. itsfun says:

            The big division came right after Obama and his policies came in to office. He caused more division than this country has ever seen. His racism, hostility toward law enforcement, drawing red lines, etc. caused the huge division.

          5. rewindpulaski says:

            I can’t disagree w/ you there. The largest magnitude of dissention has occurred during the Obama years; however, if you read Greenfield’s article you’ll find that “ever changing great dissention” has occurred each and every time a Republican becomes President. Why? Because we no longer have Dems vs GOP; Libs vs Cons; “Progressives” vs “Traditionalists'”, “Non-establishment vs Establishment”.. WE NOW have “pro” Democratic Republic&US Constitution folks and “anti” Democratic Republic&US Constitution types. Who we refer to as “Democrats” fall into the “anti” group… These are the groups currently fighting in our current (new) Civil War. Please google-up and read Greenfield’s article. It’s an eye-opener.

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