Gov\ernment Crusade Against Churches Begins

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July 3, 2015

Catholic-church-steeple-in-clouds-Michael-ConroyAP-640x480In the aftermath of the Supreme Court decision mandating that states reward same-sex marriages throughout the nation, churches across the country prepare for the inevitable assault on their tax-exempt statuses.

“Beliefs” columnist for The New York Times, Mark Oppenheimer, wrote at Time.com that churches should have their tax-exempt statuses ripped away for opposing same-sex marriage. Felix Salmon at Fusion wrote the same thing:

[T]he US government subsidizes churches to the tune of many billions of dollars per year by giving them tax-exempt status. … The First Amendment guarantees freedom of religion, but that’s free as in love, not free as in beer. Taxation is a purely secular affair, and by default it applies to everyone equally, whether they’re a religious institution or not.

  • curtmavi38

    If that is the case no one needs a tax exemption all these so called foundations are not exempt either. No one or business gets an exemption. I imagine all those who are so gung ho about relieving the church of it’s exemption will surely agree with this. Obama is the worst president that the USA has ever had. He was put in by do gooders and people who thought how grand it would be to put a black man in the white house. I wonder if they think it so grand now? It has proven that you really need to be qualified to be president and you need more experience than being a community organizer! meh

  • Curtis Johnese

    The bible says that Christians will be persecuted and it has already started, this is just another way of doing it. God will get his way and that may not be far off.

  • Tim2004

    Some like the “Status Quo”, particularly Liberal Insanity. People need to actually Do Something to quell what has been happening for the last twenty or so years….as in Stop Feeling Sorry for all the hurt that someone has gone through, because now the hurt needs to be put on the generation, at times generations, that let this insanity go on.

    If I were a Liberal I would be very, very, very worried at what is actually being allowed to happen. What happens when all you Liberals end up with perhaps Shiria Law and some of your beliefs are directly opposed to Shiria, as in Homosexuality is against the law, at least Shiria. In other words all the people you think are with you are actually waiting to Betray you because your belief system actually makes them “Shiria law folks” sick to their stomachs…..

    Think of the Trojan Horse….

    It is really past time for People to wake the you know what up, sometimes language needs to be rude, especially with the insanity that is going on today.

    We the people, need to Stand Up and take back our Republic, the United States of America.

  • KentS

    “[T]he US government subsidizes churches to the tune of many billions of dollars per year by giving them tax-exempt status.”

    Nonsense…separation of church and state allows for this. Remove the tax exempt status and you essentially eliminate separation. Do progressives really want this? To me, this sounds like a slippery slope for leftists.

  • Seedman

    Jesus is building His church and the gates of Hades shall not overpower it.

  • Richard

    And the great assault on Christianity has begun.

  • abbygal64

    The assault begins when a couple asks the preacher if they will marry them and are rejected and then media steps in and so on. I personally believe that there are good honest gay couples out there who will just find another church to get married in, but I do know there are some who just do it to get the business or church in trouble, who else can shut down a bakery or florist because they said No? Even tho there are 20 more willing to do so but they want to shut them down, it’s purposeful. It’s not about equality it’s about superiority making them the special people some of them think they are!

  • KayO

    Christians will not stand down. We bow to God-not government.

  • Lily Haley

    Church members pay tithes to support the purposes of God. So wouldn’t taxing those tithes be stealing from God….

    • Kathleen Redman

      You got it, and that money has already been taxed. The money given to the church is after-tax money.

  • VirgoVince

    If tax-exempt status is removed from churches, they will no longer be able to support their charity work in the community! Where will that leave all you ugly stupid ignorant idiotic libturd welfare ni66ers??
    Don’r have to be black to be a ni66er, all libturds are, color is irrelevant!

  • Blackrober

    Whatever happened to Separation of Church and State. If churches are forced to pay taxes to the State, they would no longer be separate. The churches would be supporting the State thereby allowing the State to diktat to churches.
    Furthermore thousands of dollars used by churches for charity work to help the poor and needy would then go to see how long a shrimp can stay on a treadmill.

    • Kathleen Redman

      Precisely! On Jan. 1, 1802, Jefferson wrote his famous letter, agreeing with the Danbury Baptists: “Gentlemen … Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.”
      Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/12/the-real-meaning-of-separation-of-church-and-state/#GkXjZi5hMupiX4sC.99

    • Kathleen Redman

      The people have already paid the taxes from the money that is given to the church. Taxing them again is totally unconstitutional…but they will do it as a “punishment” for not doing things their way. This is tyranny!

  • gerald Hughes

    It is apparent to all of us, we must physically separate ourselves from the liberal dem bloodsuckers.
    Likely it is the only way to prevent civil war

  • Oldawg70

    Two kinds of people in this world…GODLY or UNGODLY! Seems to be an awful lot of UNGODLY in this toilet bowl we call America…=(

  • jdbixii

    The right to be arbitrary is not a monopoly held by government, especially if it is government of, by and for the people. Let each do what he wants is an impossible definition of “freedom” which can not be realized equally or justly without a complete separation of church and state. State needs to mind its own business, being mindful of the rule of the majority, having constituted the law, and exercising the right to limit the will of minorities to disobey the law, by a prejudice for the law and discrimination relative to it. Having the right to not incriminate oneself is having the right to obey the law, in the first place.

  • Sylvester Jones

    Its nothing other than way too big government coming up with all kind of gimmicks to pay their atrocious pay and benefits, and pensions. Shrink the government now.

  • amarvin

    Churches cannot be forced to marry anyone – gay or straight. There are other countries where no one is married in a house of worship only by the government.

    • libsrtheh8ters

      IF a church performs marriages for normal couples then the homofascists will insist the states force the church to perform homo marriages & if they do not the church will be treated the same way as Christian owned businesses. 1.7% of the population is homo, & a handful of state & federal judges cast the will of MILLIONS of Americans, many not religiously affiliated, aside to USE the homofascist movement to remove Christianity from the public square & destroy the 1st Amendment.

      • amarvin

        you are not paying attention. some countries do not marry any one in a house of worship

    • Terry Spencer-Hoekstra

      That is what will happen here but it will not stop the government from taking control. Hate speech will be invoked and churches will be forced to lose their building sending Christians underground, Christians will be fined, imprisoned, all for preaching the Word of God straight! Just watch! People do not want to hear that they are sinning.

  • setemfree

    Obama is burning down and closing Christian churches. Time to stop this liar and thief.

    • Sylvester Jones

      Soros included.

      • podunk1

        Their first shots have been fired. The word is highly organized insurrection and rebellion as in the 14th sections 3&4 – supreme law remedies that no one in congress, law enforcement, or the media-bobble heads will mention. let alone demand defending!

    • donemyhomework

      What Churches has he burnt down. I haven’t read about any in America.

  • Seedman

    Our government led by skunk Obama is going in the wrong direction. Law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching.

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    There was sure to be a “time to try the churches'” souls, because the leaders have been comfortable with the secular loopholes allowed them by Lyndon Baines Johnson’s bill signing for their nonprofit status–sorry, but such action, and thus the hesitation to speak out as a result, has consequences, as they are finding out now. LBJ and the liberals have them right where he knew they would be some day!

    • Ace Dragon

      THATS WHY LINDON B JHONSON WAS IN ON THE ASSANATION OF KENNEDY. THIS IS WHEN ALL THE CRAP STARTED AND THEY HAD A PLAN FOR THE 21 CENTURY. WELL THEY DID IT!

      • Sylvester Jones

        It started long ago, ask the one world order president, bush.

    • Sylvester Jones

      Have no fear God’s in control and His wrath is happening now, Obama and Soros are just puppets.

    • reagangs

      LBJ was the first hard core American socialist politician. Up through the ages, the utopian socialist destroyed culture after culture and nation after nation. Ancient Greece and Rome were buried under the name of socialism. The Enlightenment of early Europe became the spark for activism. The homeless Karl Marx and his Communist Manifesto, became the poster child for modern day socialism, a.k.a. communism. He and his fellow travelers spread the cancer that caused the Russian Revolution and created the former USSR. During the late 19th century, America had this cancer spreading and Teddy Roosevelt was its first “progressive” President followed by W Wilson. The bleeding heart modern day liberals were in force and moving. Margaret Sanger, Cloward and Piven, Sal Alinsky, Bill Ayers and the likes were on their way. FDR became the first American poster child for socialism and LBJ put it on steroids with his Great Society programs. It was down hill from there. In the 1940s and early 1950s, Senator Joe McCarthy and the FBI compiled a list of some 300 + known communist within our fed bureaucracy. FDR, Truman and even Ike refused to acknowledge this list. Evidently old J Stalin had them in his pocket. Eventually most on the list were either fired, quit or were reassigned. When JFK, a staunch anti communist, came to power, they had him and several of his cabinet murdered. One of the conspiracy theories has LBJ and the CIA involved with the assignations. And, now, today we have communist in our fed bureaucracy, again. How did this happen? Slowly. The commies theory is to overtake nations a person at a time. The SDS was instrumental with that idea. The commie ba$tards I helped fight in SE Asia were brutal with massive murders, beheadings and hangings. Just like Cuba with Castro and his minion Che. Russia, China and N Korea had one goal and that was to conquer America, the bastion of Freedom. It will take only one wave of Obummers magic commie wand to finish the job and we will become the USSA. Is it 1776, again??? Will there be another American Revolution??? Maybe. Are you ready??? I am.

  • Roy Clingenpeel

    Only two things will bring this to an end 1) Those of faith come together and vote this abomination (administration including the RINO’s) out of control. and /or
    2) The patriotic constitution, “Bill of Rights”, freedom loving Americans invoke their constitutional rights and replace this unconstitutional
    government by authority of the “the 2nd paragraph of the Declaration of Independence” adopted July 4,1776

    • amarvin

      what makes you think he is leaving ?

      • Sylvester Jones

        Preferably in a box.

        • Ed Stahl

          No problem,– Govt. already has thousands of them on hand! .. Possibly he could partake of what he has planned for us also??

          • Kathleen Redman

            I like what the king did after finding out about Haman’s plan to destroy God’s people. He took that very hangman’s noose that Haman had made for Mordacai and hung Haman on it, and then killed his whole family, all of his sons, so this hatred for the Jews would not spread. Obama has plans for the church…I would like to see him go to the guillotine, of which there are hundreds in the FEMA Camps prepared for the Christians.

          • Ed Stahl

            Well I kind of was thinking in that direction, but thought maybe the “lost” would not get it”! Also the old saying — What is good for the goose,- is also good for the gander!
            Or what goes around,- comes around.. They are helping their own doom, and to arrogant to realize it!!

      • Terry Spencer-Hoekstra

        Exactly, ever heard of Jade Helm?

  • The redhawk

    HERE is THE question;
    Are BHO-ZO attacks on Christianity or is IGNORING the Muslim attacks on Christianity anymore RACIAL than the Burning of some Churches??????????? and where are Sharpton and the Plantation owners on this subject???

    • Hgeyer

      There is NO attack on christianity! Only an attack on bigotry! If your religion requires you to be a bigot you may want to re-evaluate your religion…..

      • The redhawk

        yOU seems to be SUFFRERING from a Severe CASE of HEADINASS disconnect with REALTY… TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE!

      • Sylvester Jones

        Bigotry is a choice. Unlike our corrupt government.

        • Hgeyer

          And we know what Christians think about “choice”…..

          • Kathleen Redman

            Redefining our language again. The baby inside the mother is not her body. It is the baby’s body, therefore to kill it is murder. Any child can understand this.

          • Hgeyer

            I believe it also says “I give you LIFE when you draw your first breath”…… So are YOU trying to redefine “life”? Just asking…..

          • Kathleen Redman

            Signs of life has nothing to do with how oxygen/nitrogen is given to the baby, whether inhaled and exhaled through the lungs or through the umbilical cord. Life begins at conception, and the little life inside the mother can feel pain after only 20 weeks. By 8 weeks after fertilization the baby can feel touch. It is truly an amazing miracle. Whoever said life begins when the baby can breathe oxygen on its own and without the mother is lying to themselves and others for their own selfish purposes.

          • Hgeyer

            So I guess the bible was lying with Genesis 2:7 or are you re-writing the words of God too?

            Genesis 2:7King James Version (KJV)

          • Kathleen Redman

            Adam was not “born.” He was created. Big difference.

          • Hgeyer

            Please tell me Kathleen….. who fathered Adam and Eve’s grandchildren….. were their sons having sex with their sisters? Or did Adam have sex with his own daughters? Or were they virgin births, a bunch of children that GOD fathered? Just thought you might know since you know everything about the bible…..

          • Sylvester Jones

            How would you know, are you a Born Again Christian?

          • Hgeyer

            Are you pro choice? I rest my case…… But I do support your right to believe that because I respect your opinion because I am not a bigot….

          • Luke

            Now you’re just a lying bigot..

          • Sylvester Jones

            Jealousy will get you nowhere.

          • Sylvester Jones

            I’m pro life as per my Creator God, Jesus Christ.

          • Hgeyer

            And thank goodness nobody else, that doesn’t share your opinion, can force you to have an abortion! Just like nobody can force you to marry someone that is the same sex as you! YOUR opinion is being respected, even by those people that you hate and want to force into your mold called christianity…..

          • Sylvester Jones

            I don’t hate anyone, just pity lost fools like you.

          • Terry Spencer-Hoekstra

            Ya, I’m admittedly bigoted on the subject, unapologetically.

          • Hgeyer

            Well at least you own your bigotry unlike most of those bigots on here that are denying their bigotry!

          • Sylvester Jones

            I’m a bigot as far as Jesus Christ being the Savior of the world.

          • Terry Spencer-Hoekstra

            Now you need to own up to yours!

          • The redhawk

            YES WE “FORGIVE” IDIOTS LIKE YOU….OUR CHOICE!

        • The redhawk

          and EADSINASS IDIOTS that just ” DON”T GIT IT”

      • Ken V

        Damn queer…always playing the bigot card…homosexuality is wrong and an affront against God…..you are headed to Hell Hgeyer…

        • Hgeyer

          Tell me how it is when YOU get there….

          • Ken V

            I’m not the homo..your the one that has a guaranteed ticket to hell . Homosexuality is an abomination.

          • The redhawk

            Will you walk in BACKWARDS to show your ONLY GIFT???

      • tk-atty

        So much for freedom of thought and expression huh? You sound like ISIS, it is OUR way or we will destroy you. You must be a homosexual since that is their mentality. Christians don’t bother them, why are they bothering Christians?

        • Hgeyer

          Yes! That is what Christians and ISIS have in common! They are bigots! bigot
          Pronunciation

          bɪˈgəˈt

          Noun

          1. a prejudiced person who is intolerant of anyopinions differing from his own

          • Sylvester Jones

            Whats so bad in what you believe?

          • Luke

            You’re a Christian bigot, an intolerant bigot at that, troll

          • Terry Spencer-Hoekstra

            You libs are such nice people. Remember, always attack the person instead of the issue.

          • Terry Spencer-Hoekstra

            I think you sound a bit bigoted yourself according to your definition.

          • Hgeyer

            No…. I am fully supportive of your right to be an as$hole or whatever you choose to be, even if you want to come out of your closet…..

        • Ed Stahl

          Come on,– by now you know that freedom of thought and speech is only acceptable when done by liberals! Conservatives,- and especially Christians are not considered to be human (even the Muslim terrorists affirm that)!

      • Luke

        “bigot” A word made up by the liberal fools but if they look in the mirror they will see that bigot looking back..
        Why the liberal fool thinks their way is the only way when for thousands of years the majority has been right..

        • Hgeyer

          I looked up bigot and YOUR picture was there!

          bigot

          Pronunciation

          bɪˈgəˈt

          Noun

          1. a prejudiced person who is intolerant of anyopinions differing from his own

          • 1inamil

            The progress left has changed the meaning of “bigot”. New meaning “I don’t like what you said”!!!!!!

          • Hgeyer

            No! A bigot is still a bigot…..

          • Sylvester Jones

            What’s wrong with being a true believer instead of a phony like our president, christian, muslim socialist?

          • Hgeyer

            Are you referring to Obama, the CHRISTIAN Centralist that is currently in the White House?

          • Sylvester Jones

            He’s definitely a centralist, a christian? only in name if at all, just like you.

          • The redhawk

            REALLY a Possibility!!
            LOL

          • Luke

            You’re still you..

          • Sylvester Jones

            I’m intolerant of other pagan beliefs other than true Christianity, just like the one and only God of Creation, Jesus Christ.

          • Hgeyer

            My statement confirmed by your own statement…….

          • Luke

            That’s a self description of you, bigot

        • 1inamil

          Anyone who disagrees with the “lefties” is called a bigot!! If a “leftie” calls me a bigot then I must be doing correct!!

      • Kathleen Redman

        You have no idea what bigotry is, or you have fallen for the “redefined” word given to it by the left. You are a puppet trying to dismiss the real problems in this country. Hope one day you start to think for yourself and consider ALL of the facts, historical truths included. If a country does not know their history they are bound to repeat it. Your people are making the kind of violent environment that caused our forefathers to flee England. Now you claim to take over our new land in the guise of “freedom”? Freedom isn’t license to do whatever you want…its the freedom to do what is right.

        • Hgeyer

          We wanted our freedom from England because we wanted religious freedom which includes freedom FROM religion! They were forcing their “state sponsored” religion and morality on those that believed in other religions. Sort of like Christian’s trying to force their homophobic beliefs on gays???

          • bobnstuff

            The Puritans came here so they could control their religion, not for freedom for anyone else. There was no freedom of religion with them, it was their way or no way. They were just one small group and did not represent most of the settlers. Most came for money, land and a chance for a better life. The early settlers didn’t go to church much and since many couldn’t even read did not live by Gods word. In 1776 about 20% of Americans went to church. Our founding fathers were not Christians in the most part. Please stop with the founded as a Christian nation line because it’s just not so. Also since 82% of our elected officials are Christians just who is doing the attacking. There are no new laws in the congress that will change how the government looks at the church. Giving one group rights that another already had do not make anyone lose anything.

          • Sylvester Jones

            I could care less about you and the gays, Freedom from religion was never penned in the first Amendment.

          • Hgeyer

            I believe the saying is I “couldn’t” care less…..

          • Sylvester Jones

            2 Timothy 2:14, Keep reminding them of these things; warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value and only ruins those who listen. Ecc 6:7, The more the words, the less the meanings and how does that profit anyone?

          • Hgeyer

            Are you trying to defend saying the opposite of what you mean? It’s not working for you…….

          • Sylvester Jones

            I’m a born again christian, adopted into the family of God, which you ain’t.

          • Hgeyer

            I’m confused….. Is that the opposite of what you mean to say again?

          • Sylvester Jones

            Your confused because your spiritually dead to Biblical truths. Once again enjoy your eternal destiny, HELL.

          • Hgeyer

            I’m confused because of your lack of cognitive thought….. Are you talking about biblical myths or are you just making this up as you go along?

          • Sylvester Jones

            There are no myths in the Bible, only in your empty head.

          • Hgeyer

            Seriously?….. If these “myths” were in my head it couldn’t be empty….. Think COGNITIVE thoughts please…… Not willing to comment on the creation myth?

          • Sylvester Jones

            I’ve walked the extra mile with you, time to give up on your stupidity, God said He will bless who I bless and Curse who I curse, the latter is for you.

          • Hgeyer

            Typical…… ALL Christians disappear with their tails between their legs when I ask them about the Adam and Eve thing….. Bye bye…….

          • Hgeyer

            Since you are a biblical scholar could you tell me who fathered Adam and Eve’s grandchildren….. were their sons having sex with their own sisters? Or did Adam have sex with his own daughters? Or were they virgin births, a bunch of children that GOD fathered? Just thought you might know since you know everything about the bible and nobody has been able to answer that for me….

        • Hgeyer

          Actually it’s a thing called a dictionary that I use to define bigot…. Have you ever seen one? You can get them in book stores….

          • Kathleen Redman

            Defining people who are not guilty of such and calling them that is a gross misuse of the word, just like lumping all of the Christians in one stereotype and saying they are ALL like that. Such as the word hate- if the libs don’t agree with someone then they falsely accuse that person of hate, which couldn’t be further from the truth. You redefine it not only by changing the meaning, as libs try to do with marriage, which God has defined, but with taking such a word and applying it where it does not belong. Tolerance for instance, is the furthest thing from the mind of those who accuse others of being intolerant. So to them, tolerance now means they have the right to hate someone who does not agree with their point of view. Calling someone a bigot who has done nothing close to “bigotry” is redefining the word in the mind of the person doing the accusations.

          • Hgeyer

            I call people a bigot when they are intolerant of other people’s beliefs. That is its very definition! I have no problem with people being Christian! More power to them ! Most of the Christians I know are not bigots and I don’t call them that. If you hate gays you are a bigot! If you hate Muslims you are a bigot! If you are one of those Christians that think you are right and everyone that disagrees with you is wrong YOU are a bigot! Don’t hide behind your bible and tell me you aren’t. Even if you are a bigot your God loves you anyway so stop the denial and admit it!

          • Kathleen Redman

            I am a Christian. I do not hate gays or anyone else. I do not expect everyone to conform to my views, not even other Christians. I do not hide behind anything and will live my life according to God’s word. Your statements are judgmental and spiteful. I will not be having a conversation with you anymore. If you really want to know about God’s word or creation, then read it. What it says is true.

          • Sylvester Jones

            Amen.

          • Sylvester Jones

            I’m a bigot because of my intolerance of any other way to Heaven than Jesus Christ.

          • Hgeyer

            You could just keep your narrow minded view to yourself instead of trying to force your beliefs on others that don’t really give a f*ck what you think… Just sayin’

          • Sylvester Jones

            By the way you’re mentioned in the Bible, twice for double emphasis, Psalms, 14:1 & 53:1, the fool says in his hear there is no God, Just saying.

    • Terry Spencer-Hoekstra

      Our playing golf!

      • The redhawk

        and he SUX at that also!!!

    • tk-atty

      Obama loves the attack and slaughter of Christians here and around the world. He is an Islamic extremist and he probably has something planned to cause chaos which he is always doing, to implement martial law. When the Christians killed by the one nut in S.C forgave the shooter, the race baiters had nothing to complain about, so they came up with blaming it on the confederate flag, which I have never really cared for, but now it is an issue of freedom to me. It is a part of American history and anyone has the right to fly it if they want. What a shame the Christians who forgave this shooter then allowed Obama to take over and come into their Church a wicked and evil man. Why did they allow him to come? He is divisive, a race baiter, racist himself, an islamist and hater of Christianity who promotes abortion and homosexuality. He should have never been allowed to stand in their pulpit.

      • The redhawk

        the Race industry Klan did not like that few that Adult Blacks prevailed in SC

      • Ed Stahl

        Did you ever notice that most of “Christians” killed overseas are “non whites”! — And very few are carrying the “:Union Jack” on either side! Though several might have been under a British flag which looks like the Confederate flag pretty much– and those were the ones killed! — Not the ones doing it — so likely it was not the flag being the problem (except for Muslims)!

    • Ed Stahl

      They are standing by till it becomes such an issue that there is money in it FOR THEM.. They are hate mongers,– but not fools! Don’t worry – when the money flows, and the time is right they will again be causing friction, and dragging down their race– with “racism”! A whole lot of this would go away,–if they would just stay away!

      • The redhawk

        I wonder how these “ANARCHISTS” would Fare were they to return to the “LAND THAT SOLD THEM” and see what AMERICA has offered them and Paid for that they have NOT taken full advantage of other than WHINE for the last 50 YEARS………….. Just makes one wonder where their HEADS are at!

        • Ed Stahl

          Considering that the land of origination sold all these slaves, and the dictators who sold “their own people” to slave ships! (Even Obama’s family was involved in slave trading I read!).. I would assume that they would not like it much,– as the leader there might just put them in chains and sell to some other slave-owner country– Yes it is still being done today! And millions of slaves are of “all races and colors”- incidentally- even (UGH)_ white!

          • The redhawk

            and 110,000″ Immigrants” from Africa just landed in Minnesota.. land of Franken, Loons and Felons that vote while in jail….Can you ever see a GOP candidate winning there??? The Plantation on the NORTH WOODS has been Been SECURED!!

          • Ed Stahl

            Sorta true, but now they are only “slaves to the ballot box”! As long as they vote right – the free money keeps coming, and those that “DO” work must pay for it! But paper is used to make ballots. and paper is usually made out of wood and rags! Maybe they will cause the “tree huggers” to be driven off??

          • The redhawk

            HUMM!!! Now that is something to “PONDER”…But what about DA LOONS??????

    • Kathleen Redman

      If he can distract they eyes of the media and the people with internal fighting and wars then we don’t notice what HE is doing. He and Sharpton are behind the race wars for two reasons. To capture our attention away from what we should be seeing, and dividing us so that when we see what he is doing the people can’t band together to stop him.

      • The redhawk

        sPOT ON… TWO VERMIN that mamage to keep the Uninformed Voting Headsinass morons as well as the DONKEY heads of the press..in TOTAL denial and Confusion

  • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

    Separation of Church and State is a gate that swings two ways. Any Church that somehow believes it has the right to inflict itself on government by swinging the gate in that direction deserves to be taxed. I am so sick of cake and eat it too idiocy.

    • tk-atty

      Read the Constitution, there is no such statement of “Separation of Church and State” the first amendment says the State or Government cannot set up a State Church like there was in England where they controlled everyone and everything. That is why we left England because of religious freedom and we fought a revolutionary war so we did not have to pay taxes without representation. However now, we have the government with the Supreme Court enforcing the law by calling it a tax, that forces Americans to buy insurance we did not want called Obamacare. The first in many steps to grab power and control over people. I believe it is the homosexuals who are according to their own polling less than 2% of the population controlling the majority of people who do not agree with them through force and the heavy hand of the government. Still not happy they are trying to force Christians to accept and promote a agenda we do not agree with, but we do not bother them. There is to be no tax on religious institutions, or do you support forcing people to do as the government wants by taxing them? That is what they are doing, because unless you are Al Sharpton, if you don’t pay your taxes you go to jail. Wake Up! We are losing ALL our freedoms!

      • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

        Have you ever heard the word implied? If their are no implications even in the Constitution or in the Bible we are in deep.

        • Ace Dragon

          IF YOU KNOW HOW TO INTERPET THE BIBLE AND THE CONSTITUTION, YOU WILL READ IMPLICATIONS.

          • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

            I have an implication for you. Walk into the middle of a conversation and do you know what is usually implied?

      • podunk1

        It starts with Amendment 1 and 14 betrayal issues… “Shall make no law”; and “… No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens…”

        Countless oath bound officials and judges are engaged in insurrection and rebellion violations against religion, speech, press, guns, privacy, phony infamous crime accusations, excessive fines, involuntary servitude… literally everything in the Constitution. If we wake up, we’ll find most flagrant violations are judicial edicts in direct contempt of jury determination rights (Amendments 5, 6, &7).

        Article 3 Section 3. Treason includes “…adhering to (Constitution & country) enemies, giving them aid and comfort. Amendment 14 Section 3. “No (oath bound) person shall … hold any office… (who has) engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the (Constitution), or given aid or comfort to (its) enemies…” easily removes traitors from office and (14 Section 4) holds them individually to the crime and liability.
        (14 Section 5)The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article. Supreme law and lesser laws to remove traitors already exist and must be engaged by citizens in every court on the land per second oath/duty and Article 6. Because our president, his DOJ and agencies, our legislators, and appointed judges betray oath and Constitution, the Constitution has been obliterated. Citizens must reinstate it by removing anyone who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion!

        • Ace Dragon

          WELL YOUR VERY INFORMED. THAN GO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.TALK IS CHEAP, ACTION WORKS.!

      • Ace Dragon

        WE ALREADY HAVE LOST OUR FREEDOM. WE JUST NEED TO KILL TO GET IT BACK.

      • Ken V

        “Separation of church and state” (sometimes “wall of separation between church and state”) is a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson and others expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

        • Terry Spencer-Hoekstra

          Yes, and the deal was that no one church should be allowed to control the government. I do not believe this situation has happened, but the State sure looks like it is not going to be separate from the Church for long.

  • podunk1

    It’s way past time to stop Obama’s progressive vilification & desecration of America by eulogizing “fecalism”! Bathing the Whitehouse in rainbow colors to celebrate dung diving is as perverse as it gets!
    One doesn’t have to mock Christianity or eulogize sodomy to live together, share property, or love anyone! Using the media to invite everyone to honor the abomination is demonic! It kills and maims people!

    A little truth, sanity, and hygiene just might clarify why civilized humans have rightly labeled homosexuality an abomination. Homosexuality is an intimate frenzied and abrasive contact of oral/nasal, anal, and reproductive anatomy! Ingested pure Food, air, and water sustain life. Regenerating life (sexual) requires a pure (clean) environment. Rectal chambers are conduits to remove disease and waste, by adding flesh eating enzymes and germs that will decompose and rot whatever is removed from the body. By design, all four can’t be connected by yourself. It takes two or more individuals. That obviously exchanges and exposes all solids, liquids, enzymes, germs, diseases, etc. between any two or more individual persons involved. The rectal excrement is highly repugnant to sight, smell, and taste; and highly toxic to every other body part! The communication warning vehicles are various words like abomination, demonic, and plain old DANGEROUS! FORCE THE CDC and FDA into the fight as expert witness. Denial of the danger forces them OUT OF BUSINESS!

    14-3 says no sworn in official shall hold any office if they betray oath duty, which includes acts against constitutional authority. One can’t count the betrayals by Maoist/RINO progressives (both parties!). Notice… neither party will acknowledge the 14th sections 3, 4, & 5!
    PASS IT ON!!!`

    • Richard Schwartz

      Will Christians and Jews finally wake up? Remember people do the right thing as a last resort. Liberals will keep pushing because they have not run into resistance. 2014 should have been a wake up but it wasn’t. Liberals push and push and the time will come when people have had enough and will push back HARD. A minority thinks majority will not push back. When it happens it will be devastating. The problem is republicans are worth the powder to blow them away . Do they push back hard? NO People have no one to fight for them. Someone will appear. Republicans have 3 candidates who can do this. Problem appears to the establishment want to run things in the same way instead of change.

      • podunk1

        You’re so very right… We do have a couple of very good candidates, beginning with Cruz & Walker.

        People like Boehner & McConnell are really worse than Maoist progressives – they work to get trust & then turn on you like rabid dogs. The only thing worse than a traditional RINO monopolist is a global monopolist. Maoist progressives don’t pretend to support freedom & we know they’re almost as bad as bad gets immediately.

        • Antonio Pires

          Not so sure about Cruz and walker, good guys but the bases aren’t so strong to face the liberal media. I think Rick perry is the man, with outstanding records and with very good family values. remember he fought hard to saved the Boy Scouts from the homosexuals, and he was the only one that stand up against Obuma’s unlawful immigration. But we shall see and this time we can’t accept another mcCain or Romney.

          • podunk1

            can’t argue against Perry – a viable candidate

          • tk-atty

            Problem with Perry. What did he do to shut down the border when he was Governor? Very little. The only one speaking straight to the people right now is Donald Trump, Bobby Jindal, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz. Establishment republicans can’t win because they are just like the democrats, they have done NOTHING to stop Obama and have attacked and prevented a Conservative from beating another rino Thad Cochran when they had the democrats cross over and vote for him so the true conservative lost. Boehner, McConnell, McCain are all establishment, only interested in protecting their power, not doing the people’s business. The left will not stop trying to strip Americans of their religious freedom, because therein is where are freedoms lie. If not granted to us by God, the government believes THEY give us our freedoms, when he truth they take more and more of our freedoms away. Those who push the homosexual agenda will not stop with marriage, although they are less than 2% of the population by their own reporting, as well as they finally have admitted it is a lifestyle choice and it is. I worry about the future of my children and grandchildren, they will really being pushing this in the schools on little children who should not be hearing such things much less being taught about them as normal. The parents will have little if any recourse to stop what they are teaching their children, so the parents are going to have to teach them the truth, or they will never know it.

          • msueh

            The incumbents do seem to think – and act like – they’re royalty, don’t they?

      • Charity Blake

        “Someone will appear.” It will be Jesus in all His glory. Humans have tasted the forbidden fruit (again,) the taboo is now the law of the land. Heathens will be burned, countries will be destroyed. The 666 demon is upon us and no one will be saved from God’s wrath. The planet is fighting back against humanity for the atrocious way our Earth is being contaminated and God is going to punish the wicked and the abusers. Democrats, Republicans, communists, egotists, homosexuals, climate-change deniers – all are the same when Jesus returns to us and delivers His father’s brand of justice. We were given this beautiful blue ball of wonderment and was instructed by God to tend to his garden. We have ruined all the blessings bestowed by God to mankind, we will sow what we have reaped. Forgive them Father, for they are too stupid to know what they have done.

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