Growing Doubts On ObamaCare Repeal

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July 10, 2017

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Republicans expressed increasing pessimism on Sunday about the prospects for the healthcare bill in the U.S. Senate aimed at rolling back Obamacare as lawmakers prepared to return from a week-long recess.

One prominent Republican lawmaker, Senator John McCain, said he thought the Republican bill would probably fail.

“My view is that it’s probably going to be dead,” McCain, said on the CBS program “Face the Nation,” adding that Republicans, who narrowly control the chamber, would likely need to work with Democrats on a healthcare bill.

President Donald Trump took to Twitter on Sunday to put pressure on Republicans to stay the course.

“For years, even as a “civilian,” I listened as Republicans pushed the Repeal and Replace of ObamaCare. Now they finally have their chance!” he tweeted.

  • Roy Fredrichsen

    If the Republicans can’t pass bills in the open where everybody can see, maybe they ought to consider doing it the Democrat way. Wait until all the Democrats go home and then vote for it like they did on O’Bummer Care.

  • Lkfeinb

    The Miami Herald today just came out with an evaluation of insurance companies in the past year. They have made record profits!

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  • barbarakelly

    Listen McConnell——–stop giving us your EXCUSES. YOu get your heads together and get it done —–exit obamacare now.!! NO IF ANDS OR BUTS REMOVE OBAMA CARE NOW.!!!!!! YOUR NOT WORKING HARD ENOUGH. REMEMBER WE CAN ALWAYS REMOVE YOU AND FIND ANOTHER LEADER.!!!

    • Lkfeinb

      Why? Why throw out the baby with the bath water. Just fix it!

  • Big Ed

    If the Republicans get Democrat help for saving Obamacare, it will definitely lead to a single payer system-that is the only solution the Democrats will support. Trump has to veto any such bill. Then, in 2018 we Republicans will need to get rid of as many as possible of the progressive Republicans. We need to get enough of them elected that the new guys can dump Ryan and McConnell. These two leaders are atrocious-that is the only thing liberals and I can agree upon. I do swear, but try to do it moderately-therefore, I must admit I have no words to properly define my disgust for these “leaders”.

    • Lkfeinb

      The Democrats did NOT support a single payer system so why should they do so now unless the Republican plan is so onerous. Certainly it has been so far.

      • Big Ed

        The Democrats did not support a single payer plan because they knew the citizens would crap if they tried to push it on them. Obama and the Democrat crew, however, insisted at the time and ever since that a single payer plan was the goal. The crooked Democrats even designed the Obamacare system to fail, so they could replace it with the single payer plan. If Hillary had beaten Trump, we would have single payer today. As is typical, the Democrats will raise hell about any plan, short of single payer, that the Republicans come up with. And, the mainstream media will parrot whatever the Democrats say. That’s how you got the silly idea that the Republican plan is bad and Democrats don’t want single payer.

        • Lkfeinb

          The Dems aren’t crooked, as you seem to say. They are just stupid. They actually went with a capitalistic plan that kept the insurance companies in the game so that their campaign donations wouldn’t stop and they would have a chance of passage. They also didn’t address negotiated drug prices for the same reason.
          They should have gone for a single payer right at the start. It would have been rejected and Obama would not have his name attached to the bill. THEN the Republicans could be the big heroes. They would
          propose an ACA like Mitt Romney has in Massachusetts and all you Republicans would be cheering.
          The rising premiums are not the fault of the ACA bill, it is the fault of rising medical charges and drugs. The insurance companies have to make a profit. A large part of the current problem is the mess Trump has made because the insurance companies don’t even know if they will be paid their premiums from the subsidized policies.

          • Big Ed

            There is a film of Obama saying the reason the Democrats did not go for a single payer plan is that they knew the voters would object, so they went with the ACA with intentions of moving it to single payer when ACA failed. It has failed, and according to Obama it is now time for single payer. You are naive if you believe Democrats aren’t crooked-after making the film he said “If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. If you like your plan, you can keep your plan”. These are called lies and people who look you in the eye and tell such lies are called crooked.

          • Lkfeinb

            That is blatantly false. He copied Mitt Romney’s successful plan in Massachusetts almost to the T.

          • Big Ed

            I don’t give a crap who you say he copied. I have heard and seen a film of Obama talking to a group of union thugs where he plainly said he wanted a single payer program and that his ACA would become that single payer plan within a couple of years. You lefties don’t know false when you speak it.

          • Lkfeinb

            I don’t believe one word you have said. He had never proposed a single payer system, but that, in fact would have been better, but would never have passed congress,

          • Big Ed

            This will be my last memo to you, idiot: Google: Obama on single payer health insurance-You Tube. You will find several entries on the subject and they would all be worth your while to read, because it would untangle your brain and possibly get you thinking again. Start with the one labled:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE. Look, listen and learn and please shut up!

          • Lkfeinb

            i did do what you said and heard several speeches by Obama in 2003 as well as 2008 and what you have said is taken COMPLETELY out of context.
            Obama did say he was in favor of Single Payer health insurance in 2008 IF they were starting from scratch. BUT because we have an employer based health system we would have to work it out differently.
            Did you not go that far in listening?
            I would stop calling people names if I were you because you come across very badly.

  • ONTIME

    What is the reason a orderly prefaced procedure for the repeal and withdrawal from the Barry Care Travesty cannot be put in writing and a plan to commit followed..The phasing out of the socialistic failure by use of interstate competition and the return to the private sector is to anyone a matter of course, a 5 year period should be far more than necessary but the dwaddling and liars in the congress are bound and determined that the RINO plan will prevail and the BFF Lib / RINO relationship to game special interest, cheat the tax payers will prevail……more crooked than a dog’s hind leg…..

  • GoldenGirl2u

    I’m beginning to think they all want single payer system, where we the American Citizens lose. Disgusting and they all should be voted out. Enough is enough. Pres. Trump drain the swamp, A.G. Sessions where are you during all the lawlessness that is going on, want to see some action on leakers and where is the so-called Ethics Committee with all the inciting from Democrats and horrible decorum. Pres. Trump was elected lawfully and all these nut jobs that are continuing their obnoxious behavior and quite uncivil should be punished should be charged with sedition or treason, something for obstructing an elected official from doing the will of the people.

  • parthenon1

    Repeal it totally and go back to the private insurance programs we had befopre Obama Care then draw up a basic insurance plan that covers what ends up in emergency rooms now and select the truly needy and give this policy to these people, those who are working but not solvent give them a low price to participate this would be cheaper than what we have now and it would be out of the Feds control because the states could administer and then when we can turn the tax collection to pay for it back to the states as well. American health care was the best in the owrld before Obama messed it up !

  • Walter Flatt

    IF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOES NOT DO WHAT THEY PROMISED, THEY CAN KISS THEIR BUTTS GOODBY FOR WE WILL HAVE A CONTROLLED SENATE AND HOUSE BY THE DEMOCRATS NEXT YEAR. WE MAY HAVE ANYWAY IF THEY HAVE TO CONCEDE TO DEPEND ON THE DEMOCRATS TO HELP GET A BILL ACROSS. IT IS A SAD DAY WHEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CANNOT STICK TOGETHER. WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU HAVE SO MANY CLAIMING TO BE REPUBLICAN WHEN THEY ARE NOT, LIKE MCAIN AND GRAHAM, THEY WILL DO ANYTHING, OR SAY ANYTHING TO HURT TRUMP.

  • Humble Servant

    It looks like the media got its white house information from John McCain again.
    Can someone taking care of John please keep him away from a microphone, Please!! He is embarrassing himself again in the American peoples eyes. I hate to see an old worrier failing like this because the political pawns for the Democrats are using him. John has always been medically taken care of and has no idea what the common man needs today. The Obama Care system is failing and the sooner it gets replaced the better it will be for everyone. If the Democrats don’t want the new plan it is because it is better for us and not them.

  • Jmanjo

    The only people doubtful of Obamacare repeal are the idiot liberals.

    • Lkfeinb

      Gee. You are very lucky. I guess you don’t have one person in your family with pre-existing conditions. But you will have and when it hits you you will change your tune because selfish people always do.

      • Jmanjo

        If you would bother to listen to or read the info put out so far you would know that pre-existing conditions is one of the things that will absolutely be in the new law so be attentive!

        • Lkfeinb

          Oh, I’m attentive all right. As a matter of fact I am an insurance agent.
          You CANNOT have pre existing conditions covered without the mandate, unless of course people with pre existing conditions are charged unaffordable rates. It is simple math. That is why the cruel Republican plan will never pass.

          • Jmanjo

            Wait and watch Mr Insurance Agent! They can and they will.

  • metheoldsarge

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    Just
    repeal it and worry about a replacement later. The GOP should have
    been working on one since last November.

    I’m
    not saying anything new here. Just saying the same thing that should
    be said over and over by more and more people. I am beginning to
    suspect the GOP actually wants to give up control of Congress and the
    White House by January 2021.

    Trump
    and the republicans were elected and/or reelected to repeal
    Obamacare. Not try to fix it. It was one of the highlights of the
    2016 campaign. Repeal Obamacare now and then work on a replacement.

    The
    voters did not want a watered down, quick fix, throw together,
    doctored up, Obamacare band-aid that Congress will, most likely,
    exempt themselves from. Even Senator Cornyn admitted that there was
    no intention of repealing Obamacare in the first place. Starting to
    look like the promise to repeal is turning into a lie. What happened
    to the alternative to Obamacare the Republicans claimed to have had
    back in 2009? Was that also a lie?

    They
    could have started working on a replacement back in November. They
    also had six years that they could have had experts working on a
    replacement that would make sense. They obviously didn’t do either.

    If
    Obamacare is not repealed, we will have a major promise broken. A
    lot of voters are not going to be happy. Remember when George H. W.
    Bush said “Read my lips” in 1988? We all know what happened in
    1992 as a result of that broken promise. Trump and many Republicans
    can kiss reelection good-by. The Democrats will regain full power
    over Congress and the White House by January 2021. In the meantime
    the people are left holding the bag. BOHICA!

  • sportfisher

    All these years they’ve talked about how repealing ObamaCare would be their #1 priority if only they could gain control of the House, Senate, and the Presidency. Well, they have all of that now, and what happens?Nothing…absolutely nothing! I’m a lifelong Republican but I’m beginning to think that Democrat politicians, although I usually am not in agreement with their policies, etc., are much better at their jobs than Republican politicians. I truly believe that “our guys” are gonna get their a??es handed to them and will lose control of the Senate, and perhaps even the House, in the mid-term elections. That will end any chance Donald Trump may have of being successful. Get ready for socialism folks. It’s coming, and it’ll be our fault.

    • metheoldsarge

      I know how you feel. What this country has been caught in is a good old fashioned rut. One party makes all kinds of promises. When they get elected they go back to business as usual. The voters get mad and vote in the other party and gets business as usual. What they all fail to realize is that you can’t keep doing the same thing and expect different results.

      I hope the recent actions of RINOs do not make voters vote Democrat. There are those who are not happy with the people they sent to Washington. That includes those who voted for them. Some will vote to re-elect them anyway because they cannot bring themselves to vote for anyone in the other party. Others will vote the other party. There is an alternative. It’s called Primaries. It can work in either party.

      By encouraging new candidates to run against the incumbents in the Primaries, you can vote against the incumbent without having to sacrifice party loyalty. That is what happened to Arlin Specter and Tom Foley. Everyone thought it would take a nuclear blast to get Arlin Specter and Tom Foley out of their seats. They didn’t lose their seats to the other party in the General Election. They lost them in the Primaries. It happened then, and it can happen again. Never forget that every representative in the House must be reelected every two years. It was even attempted against Ryan in Wisconsin and Schultz in Florida. Although it wasn’t successful, it could be an indication that this idea is starting to catch on. This can work against everyone in public office from the President right on down to the local office holders. Perhaps if a lot more voters and potential candidates started using the primary tool, we may not even need term limits. I say re-elect no one. Fire them all.

      • sportfisher

        I don’t think the actions, or inactions, of the RINO’s will cause Republican voters to vote Democrat, it’ll simply cause them to stay home which will likely produce the same result. That said, I hope and pray that I am wrong!

    • AFVET

      Not happening in this country! This should be very simple, repeal Ocare
      and let the free markets offer health plans HSA’s etc. across state lines. Government will no longer be involved with healthcare. Medicaid, for those who really need it, be controlled by the states. This will bring the costs down. Wake up Rinos or you will be voted out!

  • teaman

    …..by the way, McCain IS NOT a prominent Republican lawmaker…..PERIOD!! He is, in fact, a Repub-A-Flub RINO dummycratic butt kisser and I, among many, could careless what he thinks or speaks!!!

  • Webb

    We Wait…Republicans for a fulfilled Promise!
    For Doctors and Hospitals and Drug Companies to Lower Their Prices…
    These Entities, Charge At Will, prices for their services for which we have no idea of Cost!
    HealthCare Cost Is Our Major Problem in my view and The Emphasis should be On The Individual’s Care and Cost, Young Or Old, for Any Life Is Precious…

    • Lkfeinb

      The mandate is linked to insuring pre existing conditions.

      • Webb

        As stated below…
        Pull funds from other agencies to cover…I care less what Government spends for Healthcare Insurance but I detest being forced to buy a Product by Government.
        We are a Broke nation…But who cares right!

      • gvette

        Hey dickbreath. Is onigger care healthcare, or insurance. Do you know the difference?

        • Kol

          Another one of your “intelligent” posts?
          LOLOLOLOLOL!!

        • Kol

          That’s funny coming from you. I haven’t noticed anything of great intelligence posted by you! Hmmmmm-mmm…. …

  • Lkfeinb

    Read analysis below.

  • Lkfeinb

    It was never a terrible plan, but was poorly implemented. By repealing the ACA the entire economy would be irreparably damaged and many insureds would lose their insurance and their lives.
    The major flaws in this plan are the notions that prices for services and pharmaceuticals could not be negotiated and that the mandate would not be higher so that the expensive pool of the people with medical conditions would be averaged out with young and healthy insureds. Much of this myopia is because of industry lobbying and the vast amount of money given to politicians by big pharm.
    This is all basic math so stop whining and do the right thing. Adjust the ACA to make it work for all Americans!!

    • Webb

      No Thank You…
      I do agree on prices for services and pharmaceuticals, doctors and hospitals and the drug companies are our problem… Not The Insurance companies. Healthcare Cost is our problem, these entities can Charge at Will for medical fees.
      As for the Mandate in the ACA…Repeal, Period!

      • Lkfeinb

        It is impossible to repeal the mandate if people with medical issues are to be covered.

        • Webb

          It wasn’t impossible going into Law and it’s not impossible being Repealed…The Mandate is Government Overreach, pure and simple…Let Congress take Money from all the ABC agencies for the Uninsured!

          • Lkfeinb

            Once it was put into place the entire economy adjusted.
            So your paying for public education is overreach?
            All the Republican plan would do is take away money from pre existing and Medicaid and put it into the hands of the top 1% income earners.

          • Webb

            Adjusted to More Tax dollars wasted…the economy will readjust.
            Congress can cover pre-existing and as for Medicaid, how many are able to work…

          • Lkfeinb

            How did you come up with “Congress can pay for pre existing. States tried uninsurable pools and always went belly up. Not possible.

    • mudguy1

      It was ALWAYS a terrible plan. We do not need or want the Government in or healthcare. Obamacare has done irreparable damage to our healthcare and and will takes years to repair our economy.
      More people have lost lost their doctors and insurance since Obamacare has been forced on us.
      There is nothing that can be done to adjust or fix Obamacare (ACA). Adjusting or fixing it would be like trying to adjust or fix Galloping Gertie.
      Incase you don’t know about Galloping Gertie, it was the bridge across the Narrows in Washington St.
      Putting Congress in charge of fixing Obamacare is like taking your car to a bycicle shoot replace the engine.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3d043354beb58972f8984f2c77e563db8b95f4fcc1c3e66dee450d9c8250ee87.jpg

      • metheoldsarge

        I agree. The government needs to stay out of the health care business. Not only that. The government must keep its nose out of the private sector all together. When ever they get involved in meddling in private sector business, it becomes a complete disaster.

        • mudguy1

          Yes and Lkfeing dose not say anything about the many states like my state Iowa that all the insuance companies have left the state.

      • Lkfeinb

        Ok. You don’t want the government involved in healthcare? So refuse your Medicare when it becomes available to you.

        • mudguy1

          I had a choice and I was not forced to enroll in Medicare and I was not fined if I refused Medicare.
          And you will have that choice too.
          Did you have a choice in what you wanted to have covered with your Obamacare? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3d6314cb566b2d60f4bbeab75c41c00b0f8b773f04853407aab81ae86a8d59af.jpg

          • Lkfeinb

            If you do not sign up for Medicare part A at age 65 you are fined when you finally do. If you do not sign up for Part B Medicare you will be unable to get a Medicare Supplement or Advantage Plan. If you do sign up for part B and wait over 6 months your medical conditions will be taken into account and you may not qualify to cover the additional 20%.
            If you delay taking a drug, part D plan, you will be penalized 1% for EVERY month you did not sign up if you eventually want to get it. Lots of penalties to avoid people just signing up when they get sick.

          • mudguy1

            But there is NO fine or penalty if you never choose any part of Medicare. Not so with Obamacare. Real Americans don’t like to be forced to buy anything they don’t want. Especaily if being a male and forced to pay for maternity care insurance.

          • Lkfeinb

            Who in their right mind would not sign up for Medicare so it is a moot point.

          • mudguy1

            Who in their right mind would not oppose Obamacare? Real Americans would?

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3620db8109a7bd143907b378512d08bfe5e96d7bd2866261acecedae9c7bdd16.jpg

          • Lkfeinb

            The vast majority of people who have it!!

          • Kol

            That doesn’t make sense.

          • Lkfeinb

            You really don’t understand, do you? Everyone pays for everything so everyone is covered for everything. Are women paying for Viagra? You don’t pick and choose. All medical issues are covered by everybody. If the risk is spread it is peanuts for each individual.

  • KC135TopBoom

    It is time for a new Constitutional Amendment for control of the Senate. Change all US Senators term in office to every 4 years and eliminated the 6 year Senate term. Half the US Senator’s (one US Senator from each state) elections will be held at the same years as the US Presidential election. The other half of US Senators (one from each state) will hold elections during the “mid-term elections” two years into the US Presidential term.
    This will mean that every two years all on the House and half of the Senate must face the voters!

  • oaking

    If you can’t deal with the whole bill, break it up.
    Step 1 – repeal the huge waste of time and effort, not to mention money, that is the (Un)affordable Health Care Act.
    Step 2 – Determine if it truly needs to be replaced – especially since there were just as many without health care under the act as there were before the act – a different segment of the population, that is true – the price of the health care rose on the average because unwanted and unneeded coverage was mandatory (why does a single female, age 55 need abortion coverage?)

    So, get rid of the garbage (McCain included), make all the elected (and government workers) utilize whatever system they come up with.

    • Lkfeinb

      First of all, there are 30 million more people that have insurance today vs. before the bill. Where do you come up with your figure?
      Additionally,you do not seem to have an understanding of what insurance is all about. It is about a giant pool that averages out risks.
      You bring up abortion coverage, but pregnancy is just as valid. If only one age group covered pregnancy the cost would be prohibitive, but if everyone contributed each pregnancy would cost pennies on the dollar. That is why all pay for maternity under the ACA.
      Seniors pay for educating the young. Is that any different? You pay for roads and bridges you never use. Is that any different?

      • gvette

        The Obama team also abruptly started to exclude uninsured illegal immigrants from the national tally on total number of uninsured Americans. Before Obamacare, these individuals were counted in that reporting, inflating the numbers. After Obamacare, these individuals didn’t get insurance, but suddenly didn’t get counted any more.

        • Lkfeinb

          Perhaps that is the truth, but 30 million more had signed up for insurance than had insurance previously.
          The percentages may vary, but not the actual number of insureds!

          • gvette

            Goldman Sachs estimates that total coverage under the ACA increased by 13 to 14 million last year and may have increased by another 4 million during the first five months of 2015, for a total coverage increase of 17 to 18 million combined. At a top line, this coincides with the figure from RAND, which estimated that there were 22.8 million newly insured people since the launch of the ACA. At the same time, 5.9 million people lost coverage. This comes out to a net gain of 16.9 million lives.

          • Lkfeinb

            If you are correct, that is still a significant number.

          • Kol

            And now Donald Trump and your ilk have destroyed healthcare potentially for 24 MILLION,… … so… 24 million minus 16.9 million adds up to a loss of… 7.1 milllion! Hmmmmm…

            That’s funny coming from you. I haven’t noticed anything of great intelligence posted by you!

          • gvette

            You still don’t know the difference between healthcare, and insurance.
            This isn’t rocket science. If you want insurance, go buy it. Why do you need the government to tell you. Are they still coming over to your house to tie your shoes in the AM because you can’t do it on your own?
            A point in history. The first thing Hitler did, was government run healthcare. LOL..it’s about control.

          • Kol

            Government “run” healthcare? Works great in Russia! They don’t have 24 MILLION people who have just had their healthcare destroyed a a Trump-tpe government… EVERY Russian citizen is guaranteed adequate government-sponsored healthcare. I’ve even benefited from it myself as a foreign national when I sustained a serious injury while thee one time and needed emergency health care and follow-up. Ambulance, ER, lab studies, x-rays, CAT scan, surgery and anesthesiology, and 10 days of daily follow-up care… cost me the equivalent of only One Dollar Forty-Eight Cents in U.S. money. They didn’t even bother to use my traveler’s medical insurance when I offered it.

          • gvette

            As always, you’re full of shit! Nothing new!
            http://www.newsweek.com/2016/12/02/dire-russia-health-care-523380.html

          • Kol

            That is merely one isolated occurrence and very atypical of what actually goes on there. I know from firsthand experience. You come from right wing extremism bullshit. I’ve seen it for real, you have NOT! LOLOLOL!

          • gvette

            I like facts, and truth. You get your crap from twisted sources like CNN, MSNBC, and other places that back up your stupidity!

          • Kol

            LOL! LOL! LOL!!
            LOL! Derp! LOL!
            LOL! LOL! LOL!!

          • joe

            you are a liar plain and simple

          • Kol

            Try to say something intelligent.

          • Lkfeinb

            Absolutely true. There are fewer and fewer people like gvette on the site.

          • joe

            hahahaha you are also a retard with zero facts

          • Lkfeinb

            And it works great in Israel, France, England, Canada etc etc etc.

          • joe

            moron it was bammyrat that destroyed the system I know far more about it than you can ever hope to

      • Jan

        Yeah, crummy insurance that pays nothing. I was better off fending for myself.

        • Lkfeinb

          Don’t blame the ACA. You had hundreds of choices.

          • oaking

            Hundreds of choices? NOT! And ALL more expensive for those that actually work

          • Lkfeinb

            You get what you pay for. You pay for a limited plan and that is what you get.
            You really want a free ride, don’t you? And you are a conservative? Give me a break.

          • oaking

            I expect to get what I pay for, I am NOT looking for a free ride – I am neither a Dumocrat nor a Repugnican, I want the government to quite meddling in my business. If I want a limited plan, then why can’t I get a limited plan?

          • Lkfeinb

            You can. Look into temporary insurance.

          • Lkfeinb

            It seems as if you already have a limited plan. Do you have any understanding of the costs of medical care today? If the government doesn’t negotiate costs with the providers and the pharmaceutical companies, decent insurance will only go up and up. It is the costs, not the program!!

      • McFerguson

        There may be more people today that have insurance, because it’s forced coverage. But the people have been sold a phony bill of goods. Males are forced to be covered for ovarian cancer and females for prostate cancer. Everybody pays more for what they don’t need. We need free markets working here, medical savings accounts and a reinvigorated insurance market where a company can sell policies across state lines. Way back in 2009, before ObamaCare, polls indicated that something like 83 percent of the people were satisfied with their then coverage and care. What we have now is government run health care – and it sucks!

        • Lkfeinb

          Most people want insurance, but have been unable to qualify before so don’t say it is forced coverage.

          • McFerguson

            Not “forced coverage”? What would you call the government requirement that one must carry the insurance designed by the government or pay a fine for not doing so?

          • Lkfeinb

            You could choose to pay the penalty and not get the insurance. The penalty was peanuts compared to the insurance.
            Actually the penalty should have been higher because why should I be forced, as a taxpayer, to pay for this freeloaders emergency care when something does happen to him/her if the person chooses to opt out? There is no free lunch. Everybody gets sick sooner or later and the emergency room treatment is virtually affordable. Most pay nothing and the taxpayers have to pick it up.

      • oaking

        I agree, why should I pay for roads that I don’t use?
        You have no right to my money, I have no right to yours
        I DO understand insurance, I have been in the insurance industry, and since there is a good profit margin, that means that all get to pay for that also
        As I said, get the government out of healthcare

        • Lkfeinb

          Your society would be a nightmare. You might take a look beyond our borders for governments who feel as you do.
          The haves live in virtual prisons with high fences and barbed wire to keep the have nots out. But they get in anyway to rob and murder. See South Africa. See Brazil.

  • McFerguson

    For seven long years now we’ve heard the leaders of the GOP talk about how if they ever get the power, they will rip out Obama Care by root and branch. “We agree” screeched all their little ugly duckling followers. Now, they control both Chambers of Congress and the Presidency. And they’re terrified of making a decision. Their panties are in a bunch. “Must we actually govern?,” the sniveling weasels must be asking themselves. Yes, you must, and if you don’t get your asses in gear, your cowardly party will disappear in the mid-term elections of 2018. Are you listening, McConnell and Ryan?

    • Lkfeinb

      Yup, they talked and talked for political reasons. They NEVER proposed ONE alternative plan. Did that not strike you as odd?

      • Dee

        I had heard they put forth a bill to repeal and replace when obummer was in , I think it may have been in either 2013 or 2015 . Now you don’t even hear about that bill ?

        • Lkfeinb

          NO THEY DID NOT!! There was never a replacement offered.

      • McFerguson

        But they did pass a ‘Repeal and Replace’ plan while Obozo was still warming the seat. Of course, the undocumented Kenyan vetoed it. Which means it was a phony plan, just a drill to placate their voters who thought they’d really grown a pair over the past 7 years. But, the joke’s on us. They were playing Charlie Brown and the football, pulled it back on us again…they have NO plan, nor the guts to put one forward.

        • Lkfeinb

          There was NO Republican plan proposed, no less passed. Where did you get that info? It was well known.

          • McFerguson

            On 8 January 2016, Obozo vetoed a GOP-controlled congressional reconciliation “repeal and replace” bill that would have sunset many of the provisions of ObamaCare at the end of 2017, including the mandates. Apparently, it was “well known” to everybody but you.

          • Lkfeinb

            That was a repeal, not a replace.

          • McFerguson

            Yeah, right, nice dodge. You’re not a member of the Clinton family, are you?

  • roboteq

    More proof that whether Democrat or Republican, politicians are focused more on what benefits them than they are doing the job we “hired” them to do, which is doing what is the best for the American people overall. President Trump is a businessman who focuses on win/win scenarios for all sides involved, and this is who we need to trust and support unless his programs actually fail to provide a win/win situation for all.

  • Jim McCormack

    NOT ANOTHER DIME TO THE GOP.

    • Lkfeinb

      We need rational leaders not hateful jerks.

      • McFerguson

        You mean like Bernie Sanders, where everything’s free? You sound a little irrational yourself. In fact, you sound like a “Progressive” where feelings and agenda always trump facts and reality. Shouldn’t you be over on Salon.com or Moveon.org?I think you’re on the wrong website, dude, perhaps taking the left fork rather than the correct one.

        • Lkfeinb

          Did I say I was a Bernie Sanders fan? I am not! Does everyone on this web site have to agree with you?

          • McFerguson

            No, but there’s no doubt you bleed Progressive blue…

          • Lkfeinb

            And I am very proud that I care about the disadvantaged and poor. I am proud I have empathy and want a society with a large safety net. Yes, I am a blue blood, but with reservations.

          • McFerguson

            I didn’t infer that you were a “blue blood”, I said you bleed Progressive blue. The former is a rich, well bred, highly educated person who seems to skate through society without a whole lot of problems. The latter, a Progressive, is somebody who takes way more from society more than he contributes, a phony really who considers himself way superior to the average Joe, and is intent on unraveling the foundation of the government bequeathed to us by our Founders. As one who fought for this country, that bothers me. Big time!

          • Lkfeinb

            You’ve got it backwards, baby. Progressives care about the average Joe. Conservatives are just out for themselves and the upper 1%.

          • McFerguson

            Nonsense, vote-buying schemes via a bunch of costly entitlements and free Obama phones are scams the democrat party is well known for. LBJ signed the voting rights act way back in the early 60’s and afterwards, said “now we’ll get the n****r vote (his words, not mine) for the next 100 years.” This is how they care, really care, about the people they’re supposed to serve. Bull Conner was a democrat, so was George Wallace, former Governor of Alabama who declared “Segregation now, segregation forever” as he tried to prevent black children from entering white public schools. Yep, they really “care about the average Joe”! And now they’re playing the same game with the illegal immigrants. They welcome them in, transport them to sanctuary cities, give’em a bunch of free stuff and then work mightily to get them registered to vote. But caring? Not even a little bit…

    • Lkfeinb

      I agree! Not another dime to the GOP!

  • JC

    Hey RINOS—you just exposed who you really are—-warmed over democrats–you will hear from us this next election

  • Patriot47

    Start packing your bags, RINOs.

  • TexRancher

    We were promised a full repeal of this piece of CRAP known as ObamaCare. Now these C.S. politicians are showing once again that they are too gutless to follow through! We didn’t vote for a rewrite or overhaul of Obamacare, we voted to deep six this monstrosity. It was written to fail in the first place so why betray the people who voted for them to do the job? RINOs are as bad as the socialists. (corrupted former democrats)

    • Dee

      You are a Spot On ! We have to Vote Out these Bums that “acted” like they were on our side while calling for the Repeal And Replace and now Failing Us Again ! I say enough is enough , and will get out and Vote Against any
      of them Not Keeping the Promise to Completely Repeal and Replace !

      • Lkfeinb

        They are being responsible, nutcase. Repeal and replace was never possible. It was a political statement to get the name Obama off of everything. AND it IS the Affordable Care Act, not Obamacare.

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    • ONTIME

      RINO/LIB = Same Same…..

    • BHR

      If the republicans do not repeal this bill, there will be a lot of republicans voted out of office. The republicans are cowards.
      They do not want to change things, they think they are special and want things to stay the same.
      America is falling apart and the republicans are not fixing anything. Obama did a lot of damage to America. America is running out of time to be saved.

      • Kol

        Here’s how the U.S. Empire will devolve into fascism and then collapse-according to science

        June 30, 2017 by Russell Roberts

        Hawaii Intelligence Digest, 01 July 2017, 04:25 hrs, UTC, Post #244.

        Source:

        http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/heres-how-the-us-empire-will-devolve-into-fascism-and-then-collapse-according-to-science-2/

        Accessed on 01 July 2017, 04:25 hrs, UTC.

        Reporter: Travis Gettys.

        Please click link to read the full story.

        Comment:

        According to a University of Hawaii at Manoa sociologist, the United States “Empire” is living on borrowed time. Professor Johan Galtung, who correctly used modern analytical tools to predict the downfall of the Soviet Union and the 9/11 attacks at the World Trade Center, believes U.S. power, reputation, and influence will decline rapidly under President Donald Trump. Galtung says his original prediction of 25 years for the collapse of the United States has been reduced to less than 20 years, thanks to the past policies of President George W. Bush and the isolationist/protectionist stance of current President Donald Trump. Galtung adds that the final gasp of the U.S. Empire will come as an extreme right-wing political philosophy takes hold of America and transforms the country into a fascist state.

        Professor Galtung bases his predictions on a model comparing the rise and fall of 10 historical empires and on what he calls “synchronizing and mutually reinforcing contradictions.”

        Galtung says the future of our country is grim and foreboding:

        “American fascism would spring from its capacity for global violence, a vision of exceptionalism, a belief in an inevitable and final war between good and evil, the cult of a strong state leading that battle, and a cult of the “strong leader.”

        “Galtung said all of those elements presented themselves during the Bush era, but he fears fascist tendencies could sharpen under Trump as those cultists lash out in disbelief at the loss of American power.”

        “The sociologist identified unsustainable economic, social, military and political contradictions that would eventually topple the U.S. as a world power.”

        “Overproduction relative to demand, unemployment and the increasing costs of climate change would weaken the U.S. economy, according to his model.”

        “Galtung also predicted that rising tensions between the U.S., NATO and its military allies, coupled with the increasing economic costs of war and the political conflicts between the U.S., United Nations and the European Union, would also diminish American power.”

        Opinion:

        Professor Galtung offers a chilling look at what our nation is becoming. We are overextended, amazingly ignorant about the real world, and woefully unprepared to confront our adversaries. Our national leadership ignores the advice of our allies, squanders our resources in endless wars, and refuses to confront the truths of science, technology, and economics. Time is running out to address our weaknesses, both foreign and domestic. If we’re unable to confront the challenges of a multi-dimensional world, we will collapse of our own accord and join the former Soviet Union as another historical relic. As it stands now, the future no longer belongs to us.

        For the latest trends in geopolitical intelligence, strategic forecasting, terrorism, politics, and cybersecurity, please visit my daily intelligence briefing at:

        https://paper.li/f-1482109921.

        For more information on the above topics, please check the blog sidebars. These news feeds are updated daily.

        Opinions expressed in this blog are mine unless otherwise stated.

        Thanks for joining us today.

        Until next time,

        Russell Roberts

        Hawaii Intelligence Digest

        https://hawaiiintelligencedigest.com

        https://paper.li/f-1482109921

        • BHR

          America will not fail because of fascism unless another liberal president is elected like Obama.
          Obama doubled our debt in a short time. America will fail because of financial reasons.
          Short term debt is almost 20 trillion. Long term debt is about $ 238 trillion. $100 Trillion of the $238 Trillion was not funded. Like retirement payments for government employees.
          If Hillary had been elected, fascism may have taken over.
          In the future, every industrial nation will have the problem of over production and too few jobs, that is happening now.

        • Lkfeinb

          Wow! That is an excellent, if alarming article. It is absolutely what is happening to this country. Anyone who does not take the above seriously is a fool, but then our educational system is producing a lot of those.
          Just discounting the scientific evidence of climate change is disturbing. Discounting all of science and worshiping authoritarian leaders is disturbing. It is happening right under our noses.

          • Kol

            Yes, and pretty scary. Fasten your seat belt! It’s anybody’s guess where it’s going from here in the weeks and months ahead!!

      • Lkfeinb

        The Republican SHOULD be voted out of office because all they have been doing is spewing lies.

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