Hillary Int’l: 800,000 votes from NONCITIZENS

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January 27, 2017

Hillary Intl

Hillary Clinton garnered more than 800,000 votes from noncitizens on Nov. 8, an approximation far short of President Trump’s estimate of up to 5 million illegal voters but supportive of his charges of fraud.

Political scientist Jesse Richman of Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, has worked with colleagues to produce groundbreaking research on noncitizen voting, and this week he posted a blog in response to Mr. Trump’s assertion.

Based on national polling by a consortium of universities, a report by Mr. Richman said 6.4 percent of the estimated 20 million adult noncitizens in the U.S. voted in November. He extrapolated that that percentage would have added 834,381 net votes for Mrs. Clinton, who received about 2.8 million more votes than Mr. Trump.

Mr. Richman calculated that Mrs. Clinton would have collected 81 percent of noncitizen votes.

“Is it plausible that non-citizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes,” Mr. Richman wrote. “Is it plausible that non-citizen votes account for the entire nation-wide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.”

Still, the finding is significant because it means noncitizens may have helped Mrs. Clinton carry a state or finish better than she otherwise would have.

  • Roy Fredrichsen

    Both Hillary and O’Bama need to be courted by a special prosectuor for ther crimes against America. Hillary for using her office to enrich herself and O’Bama for being detrimental to the American economy for taxiing businesses
    so high they had to abandon the U.S. and move over seas.

  • Roy Fredrichsen

    Being a native Texan I was always told you have to be a citizen to vote in any
    election. But it looks like any crooked politician can get illegals registered and get some to vote twice if paid enough. That same group wants to open the borders to get more illegal voters.

  • The Redhawk

    OOPS another REASON why the WHORES of the (D) Fubar party have OBJECTIONS to have a VOTERS FRAUD INVESTIGATION???? Now if those 800,000 Illegals had voted “GOP” imagine the Furor by the (D) whores and MSM !!!

  • Bill Hartman

    Why would anyone who voted illegally say so to a phone pollster? All that this study shows is that there are about 800,000 really stupid (net) non-citizen voters for Hillary. What about the not so stupid ones?

    It is reasonable to assume that there are far more intelligent aliens in this country than really stupid ones who are willing to risk jail just to give a straight answer to a stranger over the phone. Liberals have long stated that there aren’t many non-citizen voters as the punishment is severe. If hey are right and aliens are risk-averse, then there must be many illegal voters for each one willing to admit to the crime, and thus there must be millions of non-citizen voters.

  • muymalo

    That number was just for illegal registrations in California, and doe not include multiple registrations, and voting more than once in the same place.

  • Rick D.

    And, this article comes from a state the Crooked One carried!! Hmmmm!!.

  • Andy Palmer

    If a true, comprehensive investigation is conducted that 800,000 number will turn out to be a drop in the bucket. I bet the number exceeds ten million. The Democrats are so into identity politics that their only hope of winning is by aggressive get-out-the-vote drives through early voting that is targeted towards non-citizens and minorities in major urban areas.

  • ahvc

    If you take California, New York and Chicago area that promote illegal voting, you know that Trump has the popular vote. Oh, do not forget the Florida groups that promote that too.

  • con_c_kwense

    This is BS…in California alone the overwhelming amount of votes for the corrupt, rapist-supporting, muslim-brotherhood-loving, lying beast came from illegals…sounds to me this Richman character is a beast-lover.

  • Lorraine E

    We really must demand voter i.d.s before anyone can vote in future elections. The 1st appointee to head the injustice dept, eric Fast & Furious holder, ordered that voter i.d.s were not required to vote. That demoncrat tactic to assure that illegals, dead people, cartoon characters, and democrats could vote as often as they want needs to be reversed. Also the george soros voting machines need to be shipped to the junk yard and replaced by paper ballots. Also the easily manipulated computer programs which change a desired percentage of republican votes to democrat also needs to be scrapped.
    President Trump has begun the process of cleaning our county’s long standing voter fraud by demoncrats and hopefully over the next four years he will eliminate a great deal of the fraud and cheating which has been the norm for decades.

  • olinda

    And California government give the green light to 3millions illegals to go and vote for Hillary Clinton.

  • texexpatriate

    Quite likely, but the 2-3 million figure is just as likely from Democrat fraud. They bus people from precinct to precinct and pay them. It has been demonstrated and documented several times. They also doctor the voting machines so that a GOP vote alters to a Dem vote.

  • allanholtz

    Don’t know how many of you have seen a map of the major sanctuary cities in America, but they seem to be a duplicate of the counties that Hillary won. Interesting coincidence.

    I wonder how the author of the fraudulent voter study determined who of the non-citizen voters voted for Hillary and who voted for Trump. I suspect most of them voted for Hillary, but I have NO way to prove that.

    Something a poll of non-citizens could not determine is how many dead people on the voter rolls voted. I suspect all of them voted for Hillary. The number of dead voters could be determined at significant expense, but it will (most likely) not happen, except maybe in a limited fashion via President Trump’s investigation.

  • justinwachin

    We need to get to the bottom of non citizens voting and to find and arrest citizens who voted more than once. When someone votes more than once or votes but is not eligible to do so they lessen the rights of every American citizen.

  • W. Coyote

    Here’s what the author says:

    “Trump and others have been misreading our research and exaggerating our results to make claims we don’t think our research supports,” Richman says.

    Of course, Trump never lets facts to stand in the way of a great (false) narrative.

  • PJ

    Really, Mr. Richman….“Is it plausible that non-citizen votes account for the entire nation-wide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.”, so you say. You’re sure about that? What methodology did you use to come to that conclusion? Where is your research and data? Take away the popular vote tally from the state of California and Clinton does NOT have the popular vote. I assume you knew that FACT!!! Now, we know in California there are a LOT of illegal immigrants to fill up all their sanctuary cities (fact). We also know California has extremely lax voting laws and gives driver’s license’s to ANYONE and with the driver’s license they have attached voting registration (fact). Do you have those numbers? Obviously not, because if you did they would have been in the article. But, then again, those numbers do not support the premise of your argument, so maybe you DO have those facts but chose to ignore them.

    Seeing as you work for the Washington times…well, enough said. That, in itself, brings about the obvious conclusion that you are not exactly a conservative or independent, in terms of ideology.

  • roboteq

    The fact that this happened at all tells us several things. It tells us that a major reason for Progressive Democrats to continue to support illegal actions by foreigners is to provide them an illegal advantage in elections. The only reason illegal aliens would bother voting for anyone is if the candidate was promising to provide something for the illegal aliens. That tells us that the main reason for Progressive Democrats to want to provide money, drivers licenses and welfare support while they are illegally in the U.S. is to obtain votes from these criminals.

    Now that it is fully understood why Progressive Democrats support criminals who are in the U.S. illegally, we need to cut off all incentives for criminal aliens to stay in the U.S. and disqualify any political candidate who would use such hateful tactics in order to illegally get elected.

  • maxx

    We certainly don’t need a national voter ID program but let every state require it’s own. That is far superior than having the fed get it’s fingers into anything since everything it touches “goes to hell”. The state that I live in had to fight one nonsensical liberal law suit after another for over 5 years to finally get voter ID, supported by the majority of it’s citizens, finally approved by the SCOTUS. Outside groups like the ALCU, La Raza, Southern Poverty Law Center and the like have no business interfering with my states business. And what do you know during the 2016 election we turned from a “blue state” to a “red state” because the criminals from border states were being watched for. And same day registrations were also more closely scrutinized. And absentee voting was cleaned up by not allowing third party volunteers to obtain blank ballots for people in nursing homes which was proven to be a major problem. Ballots had to be picked up by family members or mailed directly to the residents of the homes. No more breaks in the security chain as before.

  • MoonBeamWatcher

    I suggest if the SnowFlakes idea of Voter ID’s is discriminatory
    that we take a leaf from President Carters International Auditors
    and have Voters dip finger into INDELLABLE INK or show ID.
    Then show BOTH finger and ID when voting to prevent a
    DOUBLE DIP . . .

  • Patriot47

    Figures lie and liars figure. Number was PFA.

  • elmcqueen3

    With all the influx of east/west coast refugees settling here in Colorado who have turned a once beautiful red state into a blue state…it appears the “commies” have invaded the chambers of our state capitol disquised as Democrats…Whoa to Coloradans.

  • takeitbacknow42012

    The whole point is ILLEGALS are NOT citizens and therefore, should NOT be voting in the United States of America!!!!!

  • kathleen_smith121

    these votes are just the ones they were able to find”extrapolate”.
    I am betting it is MUCH higher and was even HIGHER for Obama’s runs.

  • Gail Davis

    This is the second crime the illegals have committed, first was coming here illegally. Round them up if you know who they are and where they live and deport them. Cut off all the perks to the illegals and they will have enough money to build the wall and pay for it in a month. The government giving them welfare should have to prove American status before getting any money. We desparately need voter ID, American citizenship or birth certificate not a utility bill for identification from illegals. Clean the illegal immigration swamp! It’s overflowing!

    • maxx

      Homeland Security should offer a bounty for illegals turned in. It would be far cheaper than supporting these parasites with government welfare.

      • Gail Davis

        Maxx: Amen, Amen and Amen!

    • YugeSA

      I am a legal permanent resident and when I got my green card it was made abundantly clear to me that it would be a crime to vote before I become a naturalized citizen. I think it is even a deportable offense.
      Surely the mayors and other politicians promoting illegal aliens to vote are guilty of aiding and abetting a criminal offense?

      • Bob

        YugeSA – Glad you got your green card. Guess Melania forgot to get hers when she snuck into the country to do “Modeling” jobs. Heard Chump was born in Kenya, about 25 years before President Obama was born in Hawaii. Small world, no??

  • Charles R. Wirt

    Thanks to the group of brilliant people who wrote our Constitution we were saved from another 4 years of an awful mistake & fraud.

    • snowyriver

      Obama broke and shattered our Constitution so many times.

      DESPITE BARACK OBAMA’S FALSE CLAIMS, HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO EVER LEGALLY SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE USA!

      There are two kinds of US citizens, natural born citizens and naturalized citizens. A natural born citizen is created/defined by natural law. A naturalized citizen is created/defined by statutory law.
      ALL children born on US soil to two US citizen parents are automatically US citizens without the aid of any statutory law. Those children are US citizens by the nature of their birth; which, is where the term “natural born citizen” comes from. They owe no allegiance to any nation other than the USA; and, no nation other than the USA can possibly have any jurisdiction over them.
      All OTHER children can only become US citizens by some statutory law. Anyone who becomes a US citizen by statutory law is a naturalized citizen.
      Barack Obama was born in Kenya to only one US citizen parent, his mother. Barack’s father was born in Kenya; and, at the time Barack was born, his father had not yet, nor ever would, become a naturalized US citizen.
      The requirements stated in our Constitution are that only “natural born Citizens” of the United States are eligible for the office of president. Barack has never filed for US citizenship, which would make him only a naturalized citizen.
      The definition of natural born citizen is, born on the land with parents as citizens of that land at the time of birth.

      • ArcticGrayling

        Obama is a ghetto rat nigger. Does he know who his real daddy is?

      • Bob

        Snowy – I’m guessing you don’t have the slightest idea what our Constitution says. As a US History Major, I’ll trust my knowledge more than some right-wing Fox Boobs fan who has no idea about Constitutional Citizenship. By the way, have you ever seen Chump’s Birth Certificate! Has anyone!!

        • YugeSA

          Yes, president Trump’s actual birth certificate was fully verified by the opposition. Try Google, you will find it for your own delight

  • Jose

    I just hope the investigation into the illegal activites of hrc are still ongoing even though President Trump said “he” would not pursue it but then it is not up to him personally, Need to let the “law” take care of this.

    • maxx

      Department of Immigration has lots of employees. They all need to be vetted and verified too. If they are democRats does anyone believe they will deport anybody?

  • Gregg Jensen

    There is no shortage of flies or maggots to feast on the carcass of Hillary Clinton.

  • MCS

    We haven’t yet seen the totals cast by those in cemeteries.

  • JOHN PHELPS

    Isn’t there someone who will tell the people that the US is a federation of states and the president is elected by the states.This is purposeful so that New York and Los Angeles don’t dominate the country.
    Anyone with a brain knows that Trump was not intending to be accurate but to express that there were a lot.

  • regulus30

    well phuck; that is still wrong and too many.

  • Jimmee41

    The talk about the popular vote is bogus because the Presidential is based on regions and not the country as a whole. Mr. Trump won the Popular vote of enough States to garner 306 Electoral votes. The writers of the Constitution wanted to maintain the power with the individual States otherwise the larger populated States would always elect the President. It is even more critical today to understand this situation and recognize the genius of this system. If it was based only on popular vote Hillary would have gotten the nod having secured California and New York. The same would have been true for past elections and we would have been held hostage to one political philosophy. As for the estimate of 800,000 non citizen votes we must keep in mind their are many other fraudulent ways in which votes are counted and if we look hard enough we could easily find millions. Hillary’s big pluralities came from California and New York where a larger number of these problems exist!!! Please note that all elections are regional and to keep the Presidential within the paradigm of a regional election the Electoral College was born!

  • Roy

    Illegal votes come in many shapes. There are the illegal alien votes mentioned here (and I believe their ‘extrapolation’ to be extremely low). Then there are the dead people who have been voting for Demonrats for over a century after they died. There were well over a hundred of those in just one state. And that wasn’t even a big Demonrat state. Then you have those wonderful people who vote in multiple states. And you have those that the Demonrat official admitted on video that they bus from precinct to precinct to vote multiple times and we don’t have any idea how many precincts they do this in but he says they’ve been doing it for decades in his personal knowledge. Then there are those that take the absentee ballots of physically and mentally incapacitated people and use them in addition to their own votes to vote for the Demonrat candidates. And there are the people who just take it upon themselves to vote multiple times for the Demonrat candidate (we’ve seen a few of them who were dumb enough to admit it in national media arrested recently). Put all those different categories of illegal voters together and it makes for a powerful lot of illegal votes. In a nation of 320 million people it could easily come to 2.8 million or even more.

    • Retired

      If the county Clerks did their jobs once a death certificate is issued the person should be removed off the voters list.

  • Gilberto Pazo

    I DO NOT “BELIEVE” Any of the BS these libs are trying to put out there, Tiger you’re right on, Florida is not the only state but many other states specially the ones with Sanctuary cities. They will stop at nothing to sour Trumps “BIG” victory while trying to justify they’re BIGGEST humiliation ever.

    • maxx

      All federal funding should be cut off from “sanctuary cities” or the politicians blatantly breaking the laws should see a prison cell for a couple of years “at hard labor”. No more of these “white collar crime” country clubs.

  • Albert L Biele

    The most prevailing sign to initiate a Federal investigation on voter fraud is the liberals adamant position against a voter ID. Both Canada and Mexico have voter ID’s, and although 72% of Americans polled are in favor of voter ID, liberals continue to use voter ID as a political tool. The election officials claiming they have not found election fraud in the system is another reason a federal investigation is long overdue. When we initiate a voter ID with a picture and having an electronic chip, voter fraud will be eliminated. The Washington Post initiated a poll that crossed all crossed all demographics resulting in an approval percentage of 66 percent for independents, 60 percent of Democrats, 65 percent of African Americans, 64 percent of Hispanics. (And the majority of Republicans)
    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444106/obama-lies-voter-id-many-countries-require-it

    • Retired

      They will not find the fraud until County clerks are required to check if the registered voter is a Legal US Citizen. The other thing is University students should vote in their home state as they are temporary residents .They will not surrender their home state drivers license.

      • Albert L Biele

        Good point.

  • WRBuchanan

    She got way more illegal votes than that in California alone!

    In CA they issue Drivers Licenses to Illegals and when you get your license you are automatically registered to vote. And they do vote!

    She won CA by 4.3 million votes! If you subtract the votes from Alameda and Los Angeles Counties the state would be a Red State.

    The reason why is because California has more people on Welfare than are working and the vast majority of those non working people live in those two counties.

    The California Democratic Party is so corrupt that it makes the DNC look ethical. It has shaped our laws so that the state will be very difficult to take back and that’s if you could get someone at the Federal Level interested in taking it back.

    The RNC is currently not interested and would prefer to spend your money on small Battleground states that would mean nothing if they had CA.

    Been fighting this for 25 years.

    • Retired

      Stop the dual language in the US and that will stop a lot of it. Europeans had to learn English but not the Spanish language people. They have done the same for the Mhong’s , they don’t need to learn English.

      • maxx

        I have a Swedish friend I met in the US. He married a woman from Columbia also while in the US. He wanted to back to Sweden and start a business with his brother, He took his wife and a little daughter to Sweden which offers free classes to learn the language. Wife spoke Spanish and English. Sweden required her to speak Swedish in order to get a job. She could not or would not learn the language so she could not work. My friend had to move back to the US with his family where the US has no requirements whatsoever.

        • Retired

          Just think of the millions spent by the various Government agencies yearly and how many Billions have been spent over the decades.

  • Ramon1710 .

    Because the Trump polls were so accurate before the election, we’re supposed to believe an extrapolated poll (based on an estimation of how many invaders there are) is more than exaggerated BS?

    Hey Prof. Jesse, aren’t you late for class?

  • Terry T

    There are all kinds of voter fraud.
    Non-citizens voting
    Dead people voting
    People voting multiple times
    Paper ballots tabulated several times
    Ballot boxes stuffed with ballots before the polls even open
    People voting under the wrong name
    “Mis-calibrated” voting machines tallying the wrong count
    Precincts reporting incorrect totals to the State commissions

    Add them all up

  • David Stewart

    Just wait until Richman looks at voting fraud in that foreign country California!

  • Dan

    The 800,000 is a calculation, I tend to lean more toward Mr. Trump’s estimation.

    • CharlieSeattle

      …Mr. Trump’s wildass guestimation.

      • bombaybill

        Ah yes, Seattle. A soviet city in a Soviet state. Dip shit Mayors, Marxist Governors, Marxist/Communist Senators.

        • CharlieSeattle

          Thx, for not disagreeing with my comment!

  • Jimmie Cooper Boswell

    with a five year prison sentence, and $5,000 fine, for voting illegally. yeah right! someone, is actually stupid enough to admit they voted illegally?
    anyone stupid enough to do that, deserves the maximum sentence.

  • paul filing

    I would suggest that the one’s that rail against an investigation, would probably be the ones that would be exposed as fraudulent. Human nature at its worst..

  • grama18

    She did not deserve my VOTE ! I will not ever vote for a left leaning –Idiot– ! And I did not vote for – O’- either time .

  • Paul Kalmakoff

    To think that illegal voting does “not” occur in significant numbers in U.S. Elections defies logic! An INVESTIGATION is definitely warranted!
    Wake up America!

    • Virginia Hornibrook

      And I think you’re crazy the Democrats pay people to vote in more than one state. Why don’t you think killer Hillary would have won. She didn’t win because she was so sure all the illegal votes would have got her the job. Well ha ha we the American people are smarter than the Democrats

      • Paul Kalmakoff

        Before you call someone crazy…I would suggest you “READ” and understand what it is I said! To put it another way…
        I said…”Illegal voting occurs in significant numbers in U.S. Elections, anyone who thinks otherwise defies logic”. OK?

  • Tyronne Shoelaces

    Time to load up the exit train with illegals and take them deep into the south.

    • maxx

      Load them onto an old cargo ship with just enough fuel to get them out to international waters. Problem solved.

      • Tyronne Shoelaces

        I like your idea better then mine.

  • Floyd Sloan

    It’s not just that Illegals are voting, they are counted in our Census and distort our Congressional Districts. Calif.. probably has 3 added Congressional seats, and Electoral votes based on the Illegal population in Calif.

    • cunning

      Exactly, then what about the Millions of Muslims with no ID that Obama gave a temp 2 year visa to, that were supposed to report back to HLS that never showed up, that are breeding like rats, we need to raid mosc’s any illegals found, that mosc’s should be shut down for good, deport them all. Think the Muslims would not do this to christians with no ID in Iran? and call them spys and behead them.

      • Floyd Sloan

        Time to ” DRAIN THE SWAMP ” in so many different areas.

      • Harry J Schaubel

        Yes. There would be no deporting. Televised beheadings make good news.

    • Harry J Schaubel

      YES!!! One of the biggest Election Frauds in the country. The number of Illegals in your state help determine how many Electoral votes your state gets. Isn’t it amazing that they actually KNOW how many Illegals live there!

      • Floyd Sloan

        Harry, Trying to find out if Congress can stop Illegals being counted in our Census and then distorting our Congressional Districts. Seems like a no-brainer!

    • Tor293

      Floyd, that’s another issue to address, why do we need more than one representative from each state in Congress? They’ve become political parasite ripping off the taxpayers. Think of the cash we’d save and their terms should be limited to four years and out, no life time pensions and medical bennys just like the rest of us.

      • Floyd Sloan

        Agree on all but number of Reps. Support Term Limits, eliminating pensions, medical, etc. Founders did not intend for career politicians.

  • James Kroeger

    Time to put a STOP to this voter fraud…give it the ‘one-two punch’ Trump!

  • Tiger

    Oh Biffie Boo my guess much more than that. How many illegals in America? 20 or 30 million? Obama goes on TV and tells them to vote. Please I live in illegal infested Florida we have counties that don’t ask for ID, they also send out ballots by mail. We got a load of them. So I believe Trump right millions would be more like it.

    • pappy450

      You got it Tiger! I live in the communist State of N.Y. and down in the “city” where I am NOT from, Deblasio not only “allowed” ILLEGALS to vote but ENCOURAGED them to do so with a promise of him “looking the other way” while they did. (just like oscumbag) SO in short, this was an ILLEGAL act condoned on National TV by an elected official and should be punished. (but because he is a socialist, SCUMOCRAT nothing will ever happen)

      • Tiger

        Yepper and you hit it hard and nailed it. “Communist State of N.Y.” You got one crazy Mayor I will give that to you. He looks like something that came out of a mad scientists lab and got the brain picked out that was labeled “Abbynormal.”

        • pappy450

          Yes and we have a communist “governor” cut from the same cloth. Another would-be dictator and his minions that run bills through in the dead of night,holidays and weekends so the people don’t know what is happening until it comes out in the news during the week. (you know, just like oscumbag always did)

          • kbfallon

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          • The Redhawk

            Seems about something he’d do…..in true ALINSKI STYLE

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          • Tor293

            LOL pappy, your state isn’t the only one with a piece of sh it for a governor. I live in Connecticut we’ve got an odumbo clone here Danny Obamalloy he’s a typical socialistic dumbocrat, who will be replaced like his idol come the time!

          • snowyriver

            I live in one also. The governor gets elected by the mass.. The mass live in the Metropolitan slum areas of the biggest cities.. Country folk take it in the shorts.

        • allanholtz

          Tiger – It must be democrat thing (that mad scientist look). Governor Dayton in Minnesota is known as “crazy eyes”. If you ever saw a picture of him, you would understand that name.

      • Tiger
        • pappy450

          Good one!

      • kbfallon

        I also live about 100 miles north of NYC and we refer to DeBlasio as BIG BIRD clucking around pecking at things…ways of making himself look important…that’s what happens when you have a 20% turnout of voters down there. He has Presidential aspirations…no stop laughing, I’m serious!

      • PJ

        ANY politician that tells group of people to violate voting laws, as was done is many states including California and New York, should be charged with voter fraud and thrown in jail.

        • pappy450

          PJ,
          If you recall, OSCUMBAG himself did just that!
          (on national TV no-less!)

      • Tor293

        Pappy, your right and wait until Hil-LIAR-ry runs for mayor in NY she’s gonna win by a landslide. It’s a damn shame that “We the People” allowed an Anti American Muslim hussein odumbo to even run for Pres. Now we’ve got both of them doing their damndest along with their weak minded followers and the media to destroy an American President the American People wanted as our POTUS!!

        • pappy450

          Tor293,
          IF President Trump would do us a “favor” and allow the prosecution of these SCUM, for TREASON, and being out and out TRAITORS to “We the People” this would go a LONG way to MAGA and take them OUT of the equation. Time to write the POTUS and “suggest” this. I know, PRESIDENT Trump (I love writing this) Has a lot on his “plate” but it would be a good thing if MANY people would write and tell him. (the squeaky wheel get the grease)
          If we squeak enough, I am confident he WILL listen.

          • Harry J Schaubel

            It’s up to Jeff Sessions, now.

          • pappy450

            Sessions has already stated he would recuse himself IF this came up, and appoint a “special prosecutor”.
            Maybe he wants to continue breathing? You know what happens when someone “goes against” the clinton cartel…And OSCUMBAG… people commit “suicide”, planes crash, disappearances “happen” Etc etc.

          • Harry J Schaubel

            84 now, isn’t it? Or is it higher. Hard to keep track.

          • pappy450

            You got it! If You and I can “see” this why in the bloody HELL isn’t something DONE about it? ‘Oh I know, they are SCUMOCRATS, RICH “ELITES”, and above the Laws that you and I have to follow. B.S.

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            Yeah! We don’t need any more Vince Foster mysteries.

        • Roy Fredrichsen

          Tor293 – WE, THE PEOPLE will prevail over all this B.S. being shown to us, “Fake News”, Anti-Trump demonstrators, and other false rumors seeking to undermine THE PEOPLES CHOICE. A lot of those demonstrators have lost their jobs when they left to join the mob. They DID NOT know there were other job seekers waiting for them to be fired..

      • setemfree

        Yes.. I am also an upstater. We have no say in elections because the city of New York has more population and will vote however it benefits them the most and screw upstate NY. Look at the resevoirs we are not even allowed to use the land around them yet no benefits to upsate NY, the land was taken off the tax rolls, towns eliminated, all to benefit NYC.

      • The Redhawk

        Who else would Elect a bunch of Commies like Clinton, de Blasio, Cuomo and Gillebrand but the NYS Party of COMMUNISTS with a few THOUSAND ILLEGALS thrown in for Diversity sake to offset any Smart legal voters from UPSTATE???

    • Chris

      You’re right

      • Tiger

        Thank you. Seems that people are not very good at math in this country anymore.

        • Retired

          Don’t need math on Face book, that is where most live now days.

    • Kx Brien

      Most analysts believe that as many as 1.6 million illegals were out of the Communist State of Kalifornia. Can you guess how many of those would vote for Hillary? No extrapolation necessary.

      • Tiger

        Wow I don’t doubt it.

      • pappy450

        In the communist state of N.Y. (my State) MANY of the major cities were chock-full of illegals that were “allowed” and “encouraged” to vote and what I have read , needed to be “coached” on how to “vote” because of the “language barrier”
        GEE, WHO do you think they were told to vote for? (Buffalo, Rochester, Albany, Syracuse and who knows how many more
        smaller “cities” allowed this practice to occur.

        • Retired

          What did you expect , we had a Illegal President and almost a second one that should have been locked up.

    • goldie

      Even up here in conservative Dakota we have had reports of voter fraud this last election. President Trump is right on the mark when he says he will look into it. 800,000 votes is no small potatoes, and I doubt that is even the tip of the iceberg.

      • Tiger

        Amen and the next election, after this cleansing I will breathe easier.

        • Harry J Schaubel

          And let’s not forget the 37% of the Dem votes found invalid in the Detroit Recount.
          I would dearly like to see a National Recount, altho it will cost millions. Maybe it would make the Snowflakes clam up or melt away totally.
          Either way I’m, I’m sick of these Traitors. It’s been almost 3 months now. I think Mr. Sessions needs to issue arrest warrants for George Soros & Michael Moore on charges of Inciting to Riot. Confiscate their money to pay for physical and Mntal damages done to this nation, then stick them both in a rowboat and tow them out about 15 miles, untie the boat, toss them 1 oar and inform them they are no longer Welcome in OUR Country. Oh yes. Take George’s boy with him. He’s just like Dear Old Dad.

          • goldie

            President Trump is a very savvy leader; so far he has put his finger on the cause of every problem he has tackled. God moves in mysterious ways – He brought us to our knees under the first black president and He seems to be helping us through a reformed international playboy. His (God’s) wisdom is infinite – and, I might add, just a little humorous.

          • Tiger

            We have laws on the books today, right now that clearly states the punishments for inciting a riot and many states have their own laws covering it. This is why they don’t want Sessions he has been in Congress for 20 years and knows every rotten apple in the bunch. They fear what he will do. He also was the one sending letters regularly to Congress concerning O’s unconstitutional actions and to O, he finally started sending copies of those letters to the media and net that is how we learned so much.

            As to Moore and Soros yes they certainly can be prosecuted you are right. O can also be prosecuted he also allowed not only riots but he went on TV and encouraged illegals to vote. Now I believe that people will be coming out of the woodwork, telling the truth like another poster had said.

            Like your solution my friend but think we will have to go the legal route. LOLOL Cement shoes sounds like a permanent solution to me.

          • Rob1911a1

            Tiger, not only are there laws on the books against inciting riots, there is a Federal statute making it a criminal act to transport people across state lines for the purpose of inciting a riot!

          • Tiger

            You got it. Trump and Sessions can be the big good guys that blow the lid off this nest of vipers.

        • goldie

          Agreed. I was praying President Trump (I love saying that!) would tackle this problem. Seems to me, though, that we must have a lot of good people in the government yet – the President is moving swiftly and must have inside information to do so. People in the government in high places must have been quietly faithful, taken a lot of notes, kept silent until the right time, and finally, reported to the new administration. God bless these brave and faithful Americans, some of whom have lost their lives in the doing.

          • Tiger

            You have hit it and this is how I feel people were afraid of Obama. He was evil and wouldn’t hesitate to use IRS or whatever against you. I also believe the good people are going to swarm him with information. I am stunned at what Trump knows so it makes me believe he listens and he has many researching.

          • Rob1911a1

            Tiger, I think that so many Americans have been mislead by the media and politicians that they can no longer evaluate right from wrong correctly.

          • Tiger

            Too long this has been going on.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XBggAjuz9w

    • setemfree

      I’m with you. and also look at when Obama run in 2012 him getting 100% in many of the counties, provinces in Penn. and one he even got 110%. No possible way. also I believe it was 1982 that the Democrats caught Republicans cheating and made the GOP sign a paper that they would not go after them if caught. So the Democrats. or Republicans will never prosecute each other and it is time for our country to have a true vote for President.

      • Tiger

        Very interesting and I am learning so much. Yepper can’t expect the thief to investigate himself then be judge and jury like O has done.

    • The Redhawk

      I bet that if the CRYING CLOWN chuckie is asked he’d just say between TEARS :” well it was ONLY 800,000 in NY that is”

    • Rob1911a1

      Tiger – I am with you all the way; I recently retired from a major supermarket chain. Many of my coworkers were fine and wonderful latinos and latinas (my tia (aunt) is from Spain and I have lived in Spain). I got along with them wonderfully, since I could speak poor Spanish! Now, some were full citizens, like my aunt; others were not, they had ‘anchor’ babies allowing them to stay here. I am not saying they were not hard workers; they were. But, at minimum wage, they were using WIC and all the others state and Federal handout things to survive. I cannot fault them for that; what I fault is a government that allows/encourages that! While an ‘anchor’ baby may be a citizen, the parent(s) are still not; they can and by law should be deported. If they take the child with them, as they should, then, at 18, he can return as an American citizen. It does NOT mean the rest of his family gets to come too! God, these liberals drive me nuts!

      • Tiger

        Actually the Anchor Baby situation has been wrongly interpreted. The 14th Amendment does not give citizenship to any child dropped on our land, it clearly says the child is what it’s parents are. That is it and it makes sense. So this will be stopped also.

        Yes there are good people but they cost us 1 billion dollars a year along with the refugees and they also are disrespecting our country and it’s laws. They must return to where they came from and we must be the deciding one’s who comes into our country. We have millions of Americans out of work and we must put our interests and our people first. Our immigration laws are clear and they are back on the books.

        I lived in Spain. I understand that the Spaniards are not Mexicans. The real Mexicans are of Maya and Aztec etc lineage. Spain is gorgeous I would go back in an instant.

      • Roy Fredrichsen

        Rob1911a1- Under O’Bummer, we got all the outlaws from other countries posing as immigrants because O’Bummer refused to enforce immigration laws because he was so busy writing unenforceable gun laws and giving away the American treasury
        so Radicals from other countries could raid us.

  • Bob

    If a professor at a small college can find this out, why can’t the massive media? How about the US Government? It is not just illegal aliens voting; it is people registered and voting in several states; it is the dead voting (and not the Grateful Dead); it is Election Judges bragging about being able to vote multiple times. We need to require ID to vote. Canada and Mexico both require it, and liberals LOVE Canada and Mexico. You have to have ID to visit the offices of those you vote into power, but not to vote them in. Seems hypocritical to me.

    • Nancy D

      While I’m glad this provides some proof on the matter of non-citizen voting, arriving at the conclusion that it’s only 6.4 percent based on poll responses is the same logic that led the liberal media to conclude Donald Trump would never win. Obviously, in both situations, the actual numbers are much higher.

      • Joan Davenport

        BINGO

    • calhar

      This professor could be a crackpot too.This crap could be eliminated right now with a voter ID punch card.

      • maxx

        Absolutely !

      • Sally Sue

        That is a great idea —however if you do not have honest people working at the polls you do not have an honest election.

        • Retired

          It is not so much the poll worker as it is the registration part that is at fault.

    • catfish

      So this professor used extrapolation to count the illegal ballots. But did his process count only the illegal votes from non-qualified “voters”? Did his process figure the votes from the dead? Did his process account for those who voted in several or more states? In other words, I don’t give a damn for this prof;s analytics?? He got stats from states who don’t like to admit they had a super-loose voting process. It was widely reported that in the 2012 election there was a county in Ohio where the total vote count exceeded the number of registered voters.

      • Kx Brien

        And… every one of those votes were for Obama!

      • maxx

        That scenario played out in many more cities that just the one you mentioned. In Illinois Obama got 100% of the vote when there were people in those districts that specifically reported they voted for Romney / Ryan.

      • Bob

        Actually, I believe it was more like 4 or 6 counties in OH that reported more votes then registered voters in 2012. However, the Obama/Holder Just-Us Department found no evidence of voter fraud.

      • Harry J Schaubel

        Don’t forget the Sanctuary Cities and places like California that issued them Driver’s licenses and Social Security Cards, but didn’t make them apply for citizenship. Reason for that is as long as they vote Dem, they can stay.

    • Chris

      We need to change the voting system to stop this abortion policy of illegal immigrants voting and the cheaters

    • Winston Salins

      I agree, I think Obama and Hillary advanced this idea of not requiring ID in order to Vote, to fulfill their own liberal agenda. I bet Hillary’s popular vote advantage will disappear if illegal voting is counted. It is preposterous to say the least

      • maxx

        The democRats where spewing lie after lie in every state trying to pass voter ID. There is NO voter suppression when the states were offering “free state ID’s” to anybody that did not have a drivers license. All they had to do is go to the DMV and fill out a form. No money needed. Vote fraud is far more extensive that will even be known until voter D is mandatory in every state for every election. You can buy alcohol, tobacco or cash a check without a valid state ID or passport but you should be allowed to vote. Trump will make sure voter ID is required in every state.

        • Tor293

          Maxx, in East Haven, CT. they had a set up in the town hall for non registered voters. I didn’t believe it, so I went in to find out for myself, said I just moved back to USA and wasn’t registered. I was told as long as I had some form of ID (no pic necessary) I could vote, the ballot had only the two names of the Presidents no one else!! That was for the last three elections. When I seen that my comment to the person at the desk was “this is a bunch of bullshit” and shouldn’t be allowed, the look on his face was priceless. Hopefully President Trump will come up with a solution.

          • maxx

            There are all sorts of horror stories from all over the country. Get the address of Trump Tower in Manhatten, NY and send a letter directly to Mr.Trump. He does have an entire staff manning his office there. You might be lucky to get your story to him. After all he said in one of his speeches that he wanted to hear from ordinary citizens. It certainly can’t hurt to try. It will cost you the price of a stamp and envelope.

        • Virginia Hornibrook

          Go Trump go get voter ID through so the Democrats are put Into office illegally. I’m tired of them getting away with all the elections. I live in California where my vote doesn’t count because of all the illegals that vote here in the state but I still vote Republican will get the state to count our votes legally. So Trump please investigate the illegal vote so when we vote I’m 4 years it will a true vote. We’re the most wonderful country in the world so are votes must be true votes. Go Trump Go. Thank you for being my president.

    • Tor293

      Bob, since the days of the Draft Dodging, Willie the Weasel Clinton Our Country has been going downhill. Bush snuck in there and didn’t do a bad job, not great but acceptable. Then we get an Anti- American Muslim elected TWICE who admitted if elected “he’d have to put his hatred aside”, that alone should have been enough to disqualify his ass. The dumbocrats will work day and night to ensure they win the next election so we have to make sure we have more security at our voting polls than our borders.

      • Bob

        Contrary to the teachings of Dr. King, Democrats rarely use the “content of their character” when it is much easier to use “the color of their skin”. Dems are up in arms about the slogan “Make America Great Again” but gave a complete pass to “For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country”. I wonder why that is? Could it, again, be being judged by the color of your skin rather than the content of you character?

        • Harry J Schaubel

          Character has no place in Diversity! You have to either be Black/Latin/Indian, or queer.

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