Jade Helm 15: Good or Bad?

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May 7, 2015

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A massive military exercise planned in states across the American West has touched off a political firestorm, with several top Texas officials now questioning the military’s plans – if only to calm the Internet and constituent furor surrounding it.

The seven-state war simulation exercise, known as “Jade Helm 15,” is planned for this summer. It involves training exercises on private and public land – while such exercises are hardly unique, even the military acknowledges the “size and scope” of this one sets it apart.

While the White House and Pentagon are downplaying concerns, this hasn’t stopped a barrage of blogs and tweets warning about whether the federal government is preparing for “martial law.” Even actor Chuck Norris is keeping his “eyes of a ranger” on the situation.

Western-state officials are now caught between a desire to calm their residents – and yet not appear to stoke any conspiracy theories.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott already has asked the State Guard to monitor the training exercises, after officials faced worried residents at a packed town hall meeting.

  • setemfree

    I hear all the ammo built for the military has a coating of oil on it. Made with hog lard. Maybe there will be a lot of left over virgins left for very few when the military finally eliminates Muslims..

    • bobnstuff

      Just how many Muslims do you think are in the US? .8% of the population, that is 8 per 1,000. I’m afraid they will take over using the 7/11’s as their base. Or maybe all of ISIS will invade, all 20,000 of them with their used pickup trucks. I’m just so afraid. If the Texans don’t want our troops there we should close all of the bases in the state, they can live with out the 83 billion dollars that they add to their economy,. The solders may not be happy about leaving Texas since about one on thirty are from Texas.

      • setemfree

        Last time I seen the gov. figures it was 2% that we know about. Obama has great plans of bringing in another 100,000 to Virginia alone, To the bible belt no less. and tens of thousands to other states. Its not ISIS that we need to worry about it is our Muslim ‘Government sending in troops to disarm the American people. When you speak speak with the correct figures. Now why the biggest buildup EVER of American troops and equipment all moved to the South west. Explain that. Obama knows that civilians and troops donot get along. He is just waiting for the first shot so he can declare martial law which will be Sharia law.

        • bobnstuff

          Do you know how many people there are in America? How big our Army is? Have you any clue to just how large this country is? If you look at a scale map of all the countries in the world you will see just why a Muslim invasion is a joke. Hitler
          had one of the best armies and he didn’t even try it. Next lets look at how our government works. The President doesn’t have the power to do much with out the support of the congress and the people. The
          congress can at anytime remove the president if they have proof of miss deeds. In six years the republicans have not had that proof, because there is no proof. All this media noise is just that, noise.
          People complain about the government taking their rights, the rights we lost were taken away by the Patriot Act and happened years before Obama took office. As far as the government sending troops to disarm the people, that’s so far out there it would be funny if so many people didn’t believe it. The army isn’t big enough, hasn’t the will and it’s fiscally impossible. In the state of Texas there are around
          50 million guns. That’s a guess because no one knows for sure. So you can choose to live in fear and anger but I can add numbers up and see with my own eyes.

          • setemfree

            BURY YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND AS SO MANY OTHERS ARE DOING. Obama is signing a deal with a bunch of other countries, mostly Muslim. To eliminate GUNS. Our CROOKED politicians are said to sign it without reading it. Jade Helm will give the military the right and the law to take guns from civilians. ‘They go hand and hand secret agreement to take guns, Jade Helm to take them.Politicians to sign into law and then the military is in place to take them. Why else would there be the LARGEST buildup of armor, U.S. an U.N. troops, that has ever been formed in the World. Take down Texas the rest of the states will fall in line.

          • bobnstuff

            Don’t worry, the Easter bunny will save you from that big bad Muslim. OK, show me proof of anything you clam Obama has done. Proof is real fact, links, real stuff from a real source. You won’t, you will just call me names.

          • Dennis Wenthold

            Take down texas? How come none of the news stations including FOX have not mentioned this?
            In the past 6.5 years there have been no additional gun controls. Under Clinton and Bush there where. President Obama is presently talking to other Arab countries on how to combat ISIS as a group. This looks like a good thing. Are you opinions based on bias emotions or facts?

        • Dennis Wenthold

          I hope they do not come to Iowa. We only have corn and pigs there.

  • setemfree

    Obama knows civilians and military do not mix,, that is why it has never been done, Our military are fighting wars all over the Globe and now we will have it here in America. He knows this. It is his way of staying in power and declaring martial law. Our politicians are so scared of him that they will not vote against him but will vote against our “constitution. They are all a bunch of sisisified queers, All lawyers that think nothing about our children and grandchildren only what they can get in the mouth or up the A==.

    • Mike Roberts

      Setemfree, Do you know how many muslims it take’s to eat a possum? Three, one to eat it and two to direct traffic!

    • Dennis Wenthold

      It amazes me where people come up with this stuff

  • setemfree

    So why is Obama authorizing this instead of the Pentagon. Yes our Military. Would not our military say our troops needed this training, not Obama The War Monger who has never even been in the military.

  • game50

    Military training should only be done on military bases. What this is one step closer to Martial Law.

  • steven

    I see the Dumbocunt are out in force today, if progressives have their way this country will not be fit to live in.
    This is certainly not the America I grew up in, this is not the America that so many have given their lives for,

    • bobnstuff

      You are right, this isn’t the country you grow up in. People use to respect each other and congress use to work together to make the country a better place. The President was respected if for no other reason the the fact he was elected. Without respect for others our country is no better then some third world nation.

  • wwr

    I was in several of these thing years ago- where else would you train for the desert but the desert? Stupid people without any military time need to shut up!

    • ward

      wwr ; What the hell are you saying ..?

    • William Braudis

      And what side were you on, Punk.

  • 1Pippin

    Go to the muslim areas….

  • Hotnike

    Most of the comments that I have read are way off topic. The topic here is MARTIAL LAW!!! If they step on my private property they better be ready to get some severe backlash!

  • LARRY PUCKETT

    BOBNSH–,
    I TAUGHT HISTORY AND GOVERNMENT FOR 43 YEARS, AM AN A HISTORIAN STUDIED EVERY HISTORICAL EVENT IN OUR COUNTRY
    SINCE OUR FOREFATHERS SETTLED JAMESTOWN, (MINE CAME IN 1610) AND I HAVE WATCHED THE WORLD, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US, AND I AM NOT A HAPPY CAMPER. I WOULD BE HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH MY STUDENTS, (ON THE BILL RIGHTS) AND ONE OF THEM WOULD ASK, ” HOW DO WE GET RID OF AN OVERBEARING AND OUT OF CONTROL GOVERNMENT”? THEN WE WOULD REALLY GET INTO IT AND HOW WE CAN GET RID OF A GOVERNMENT THAT ISN’T LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE, AND I WOULD TELL THEM ABOUT THE 2ND AMENDMENT AND THAT IN THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS THE MEANS TO OVERTHROW A BAD GOVERNMENT. IT IS TIME, PEOPLE, TO DO JUST THAT.
    THIS JADE HELM CRAP, IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SNEAKY WAY TO GET U N TROOPS IN OUR COUNTRY TO TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS, (OR WEREN’T YOU LISTING WHEN CLINTON SIGNED THAT SMALL ARMS AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS UN TROOPS TO COME IN AND DO JUST THAT”. I AM PREPARED TO FIGHT, AS SOON AS THEY START INDICATING THAT THAT IS THEIR INTENT, WHICH I BELIEVE IT IS.
    I HAVE A FRIEND IN TX, WHO KEEPS ME INFORMED WHAT SHE IS
    SEEING. I HAVE OTHER FRIENDS WHO TELL ME THAT THE EMPTY
    BASES ARE BEING TURNED INTO FEMA CAMPS, AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE THE FENCE TURNED TO KEEP PEOPLE IN.
    I AM NOT A DUNDERHEAD, LIKE YOUR SELF. I HAVE BEEN PREPARING FOR A CIVIL WAR FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I AM PREPARED TO BUG OUT OF MY TOWN, AND HIT FOR WILD COUNTRY.
    I HAVE BEEN A HUNTER ALL MY LIFE, AND I CAN LIVE OFF THE LAND.
    I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ANYONE WHO TRIES TO TAKE ME IN BE PREPARED FOR A BATTLE. THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL TAKE ME IN, IS
    IF I AM DEAD! I WILL FIGHT THIS RADICAL MOOSLIME COMMUNIST WITH MY LAST BREATH, AND MY LAST BULLET.
    true patriot

    MONO LABE!!

    • bobnstuff

      A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a
      free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not
      be infringed.

      You spent 43 years misinforming your students. The way we change
      our government is at the ballet box not with guns. This fact is what
      makes America different then a third world nation. Try reading the
      2nd amendment.

      • LARRY PUCKETT

        YOU DON’T HAVE A CLUE!!! THE FOUNDING FATHERS LEFT OPEN THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, A VERY OPPRESSIVE OUT OF CONTROL GOVERNMENT, AND THEY STATED THAT, IF YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT BY BALLOT BOX, THAN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT, NO, THE DUTY TO OVERTHROW THAT GOVERNMENT AND INSTITUTE A NEW GOVERNMENT IN ITS PLACE. I’M THROUGH MAKING ANY COMMENTS ON YOUR ASININE STATEMENTS!
        I DID NOT MISLEAD MY STUDENTS!!!!!!!!
        true patriot

        • bobnstuff

          So you are saying you taught that revolution is the way to fix the government. Just what made you teach
          treason as a positive force in the US, You do know that rebelling against the government is treason. What other lies did you fill their heads with. How about the one that says our founding fathers were Christians and that the US is a Christian nation. I hope you pointed
          out how the government has treated those who rebel against the government. Do you remember the Whiskey Rebellion. Maybe the government should invade Texas. and through the rebels out.

  • Devaron Dlh Namsaar

    Jade Helm is just another poor excuse by this administration to show us its power… excuse me, this administration has NO power, and no brains and no life left in it… We are seeing the final days of it… America won’t stand for much more and watch what Texas does next… I guarantee you there will not be another Waco!

  • Duke

    Is the anyway we can help Texas to leave the US ?( as they wanted to earlier)-Please do it ! YOU PEOPLE ARE IDOTS !

    • 67falcon

      Duke…HEY…perhaps ,your OBAMACARE…didn’t reach you in time ,but what I do know…KARMA WILL KICK YOUR ASS.

      • Duke

        The only ” takeover ” you Texas idiots have to worry about is the Democratic one that is coming in 2016 – if it doesn’t work for you tin hat people then please break away from the Union. Or better yet declare war on The US- Make Cruz and Gohmert your generals.

        • Upaces

          Duke, I do hope I am misunderstanding you.
          TEXAS does NOT like Obama.
          Do you have time to expand on your thoughts?

          • William Braudis

            Hey Dukie, is the and there interchangeable where you came from……….no, no not your Mommie, your Town ?
            Oh well another democrap, what can we do with a dude who goes to bed every night with a picture of obama’s penis clutched in his other hand.

    • ward

      Is there any way to get you & your type of commie, muslim totally indoctrinated ignorance out of the U.S.A.along with bo & his crony administration of libtard deceit against U.S. Patriotic Citizens … ?

      • Duke

        Yes there is a way – elect Cuban/Cruz president(not born in the US) – that is when I will know that there are no sane people left.

        • ward

          What a cop out of ignorance when your idol muslim illegal POTUS was not born in the U.S. & lied his soros indoctrinated bought ass into an illegal POTUS ! You are leaving the U.S. ; RIGHT …? Along with your type !

        • johnnywood

          Works for me:-) Cruz is awesome.

        • Upaces

          The further I travel down this rabbit hole, the more I feel divorced from the good conservative people that I choose to call my own. I hold some stories back from our readers. My thought is that people have a hard enough time embracing the basic fact that our government is corrupt on both sides of the aisle. If you knew how corrupt I thought these people really were, I feel like you’d rush to the phone and soon bad men would show up to haul me off in a straitjacket.

          Do they still do that?

          Regardless, today I want to show you something that might leave you questioning everything around you.

          In 1975 a representative named Joe Bingham introduced an amendment to remove the “natural born citizen” constitutional requirement to become President.
          Read more at

          http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/congress-attempt-to-erase-natural-born-citizen-clause/#i2WpErTDDJhzpbLq.99

          Original:

          http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/03/obama-was-hand-picked-not-a-natural-born-citizen-congress-knew-it-protected-him/

    • steven

      Duke why don’t you stick to masturbating to your poster of Hillary Clinton, or are you the other way and fantasize about O’butt hole going up your butt hole?

      • Duke

        You and your friends on here just validate how dumb you and most of your fellow Texans are – you people are very classy!

        • William Braudis

          Come on Dukey take it out of your mouth and tell us what word you wanted to say……Clue, it begins with a ” Y “

      • Dennis Wenthold

        What a low IQ answer

        • steven

          I try to deal with people at their own level, and I find that liberal progressives have a very low IQ.

      • William Braudis

        Steven, I believe that Duddy Duke is a males, male.

  • ward

    The problem & questions every Patriotic U.S. Citizen wants the answer are what Obama’s intended conspiracy actions that he obviously enacts with his E.O.’s that have a strong stench of dictator and treason against the U.S. ….?

    • bobnstuff

      Here something to think about before you get any more afraid. There are more then 50 million guns in the hand of the free people of Texas. One in every three people own a gun, that includes every man women and child . Do you think the army is likely to be able to take over the state? Forget the rantings of the Fools on the radio and think about it. You don’t have to agree with anything else I say but look at the numbers and tell me Texas need fear the army.

      • ward

        Guns are necessary for free people to protect from a tyranny take over by a dictatorial government … ! The military has extreme fire power & if the people ignore their actions it could be a very aggressive plot to dictate as bo is constanly implying with his E.O.’s of abused power ..! bo’s EO # 13603 and enact martial law by his own creation of a crisis is a major threat .. !

        • bobnstuff

          Go look up 13603 and you will find that Truman was the one who first ordered it and that it gets updated by
          every president. I’ll bet someone told you that this was an Obama thing to let him take over. Never trust facts that can be checked with out checking them.

          • ward

            Your facts are totally wrong as to the original 13603 E.O.being a document of war emergency and bo’s drastic deceitful change to create his dictatorship by declaring any crisis that bo wants & not just war time threat to U.S. ! Get off your left crap & read the facts !

          • bobnstuff

            BS check you facts please. Prove me wrong with links to reliable sights.

          • bobnstuff

            Look up OE 12919.

      • Florio Vino

        My Wife says I have too many guns too, but I always tell her, “We are are gonna` need them all and soon.

        • bobnstuff

          As long as they are interesting guns you never have to many but as far as needing them for defiance she’s
          right. You only need one gun for defiance, a 12 gauge. Everything else is a waste.

  • Gerry Costa

    There is only one reason to have an exerise like this in our own country and it is not good for the American citizens. I am extremely saddened by the fact that our military is willing to follow the fraud in the WH with his ruination of America. I never thought this day would ever happen.

  • bobnstuff

    You bring the troops home, you want them to be ready to go into the middle east again and you complain about training them for a large scale invasion. The state with the most bases in the country would expect to be host to the train but
    the RWNJ are getting all up in arms. What is this country coming to? We don’t need ISIS as terrorists, us we have the right wing media to do it for us.

    • Ramona Briscoe

      bobnstuff; good name for you…shame on you; compare right wing to terrorist; you must work for far left liberals SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST, MUSLIMS, ATHEIST, etc…Texas Governor cares about Texas!!!! bobnstuff, is troll stuff…what is your real name??? barry soetoro, Valerie jarrett, huma abedin/front muslim brotherhood, al Sharpton/jesse Jackson/x rev. wright, eric holder/all BIG TIME RACIST DIVIDERS, etc…

      • Amen Romona! Appears this boy never heard of FEMA, Homeland insannity or the EPA Swat Teams! Fascist’s never change the playbook, but just count on the ignorant to blindly follow their deceptions! Anything you involve Islam in is always Fascist, meaning you get to run your buisness the way the State dictates, or your buisness is given to someone else regardless if they know a thing about it! Just ask all Republican GM Dealerships our Fascist Dictator shut down right after he seized control of GM and destroyed the Shareholders! Some will never listen, as they don’t know how! John McClain! Have a Great Day!

        • bobnstuff

          Keep drinking that cool aid they are serving. They need the ratings. FEMA camps are old military bases. Just look at the bared wire and you will see its set up to keep
          people out. You want your tax money spent to take the fence down? Go check out real facts for yourself, Go look at a FEMA camp, if you can find one.

          • Sorry to burst your bubble Chuck, but I was trained by FEMA at Fort Campbell as a National Guard member in the 80’s! So your clueless rant only shows your ignorance of the real world! Also Duh, on Old Military bases, but not all are just old relics, as you suggest! Most have gotten new fences with Constatine wire (Does not matter which way it faces), also these bases had Rail spurs added with platforms for moving people, complete with foot prints for flow. So if you depend on PBS, or any mainstream media for your information, you are wantenly missinformed! Traincars with shackles and billions of rounds of hollow point ammunition is not for an invading enemy, it is for those American Citizens that refuse to allow the Constitution to die! But first to go for re-education will be the 50% of the Population receiving any aid from the Government, aided by the working class, until they come for them. I would suggest two books for you to read: Bonnhaufer and The Pink Swastika, as the Progressives just love how Father Adolf corrected his country! Regardless of whether you agree, reallity won’t wait for much longer, as the Liberals are losing ground and must move soon or lose all they have done in the darkness! Ignorance is bliss until like Joplin Mo residents found out when a Tornado destroyed their city and FEMA came to help. Most are still being held in FEMA help camps, until they can pay outstanding bills to get out! Or ask New Oleans residents how they liked FEMA help! And the beat goes on enjoy your bliss!

          • ward

            The last 6 years since1980 military bases restructured for bo ‘s concentration prisons of death to the infidel by bo’s destruction to the U.S. Constitutional Freedom !

          • Dennis Wenthold

            Good reply!!!

          • ward

            YOU & YOUR type future home for believing bo lies …!

          • bobnstuff

            You will believe in the stupidest things just to not agree with the President. I trust no one until I check the fact and then I believe the facts only. People on line are mostly sheep, red sheep and blue sheep but sheep never the less. In 6 ½ years the President has done none of the thing he was supposed to do. My guns are still here, I worship as I please, My doctor still
            takes my insurance. Sheep go whatever the goat they are following leads them.

          • ward

            The sheep & goat shit you step in is your own due to your blindness of bo’s dictatorial deceitful intentions !Better look @ bo’s tyranny plans & stop being stupid !Your type are first in line for FEMA & all U.S Citizen Patriots will save your ignorant ass for humanity sake !

          • bobnstuff

            You prove my point, You believe the crap the Shock Jocks feed you. Fact aren’t important.

          • ward

            IF you cannot see what bo has donein 6 years, do not tell me about what is said and I believe due to your own crap about shock jocks & your ignorance of bo’s EO’s & violations of his POTUS sworn oath that is a very shitty transparent & obvious fact for his wannabe dictator B.S.

          • bobnstuff

            You sure can repeat their line. Not one thing you have said is different then their party line. You can’t back up anything you say with proof. Prove me wrong.

          • ward

            When facts are repeated then you believe they are not a fact so this explains your libtard mentality that is the proof that bo duped you … !

          • bobnstuff

            When you are lazy enough to let others do your thinking for you without checking your fact or even seeing if it makes scene you can join the right wing of the republican party. You believe that there are good workers out there with out jobs but I have been trying to retire for four months now and they can’t get good help to replace me. My company needs to hire 20 people every spring to get through the summer, this year we have only gotten ten. You are not in the real world if you follow the party line of how bad the country is. People complain about Obama watching everything you do but no one remembers J. Edger Hover. I had a file in the sixties as did most of the people I know. You have forgotten what inflation was like and that at one time corporate taxes were 85% and the country did well. Most of all you have forgotten the young men that were sent to die for the oil companies in Iraq. You choose to believe that everything bad in your life is because of the President even though he has done nothing to harm you and isn’t coming for your guns. Go check your facts sometime and stop being a fool. EO 15603 replaced EO 12919 almost word for word. The FEMA camp photos you see on line are fakes, even Fox News said so. UN troops can’t operate inside the US borders anymore the the US army can, by law. These are all lies you have been feed and easy to check out. I’m not all that liberal and I don’t believe Obama is all that great a president but he isn’t trying to destroy the country. I am tried of the lies told by the right to scare people. I am a card carrying capitalist and believe in a market driven economy. My belief is based what I have seen in my life and reading a lot of really boring stuff. I have own or run business’s all my life, I have written checks to the tax man for over a million dollars total. I can’t afford to just take someones word for how thing are, I check everything twice at least. I have seen the inside working of the republican party first hand having been a ward chairman which is an elected office. So you can believe what ever you wish but if you want to know the truth you need to do some digging.

          • Dennis Wenthold

            Good answer!!

          • bobnstuff
        • bobnstuff

          GM went bankrupt and then the government bailed them out. Instead of letting 5900 deals close they closed 900 and created a leaned cleaner company that is still in
          business to day. They should have let GM go out of business instead?

          • Yeah they bailed them out, stole from the Investers and Stockholders, then fired the Executive’s and turned the Company over to Union Goons that had never worked a day in their lives! Also guess what, if they had been allowed to go Bankrupt instead they would be like Ford motor company that refused the bailout, in the Black! You Fascists just don’t get the Free Enterprise system do you, just throw more money and any bad idea might work!! Do you also say Hile Barry?

          • bobnstuff

            What company? The one that owned more then it was worth? You do know they went bankrupt. We should have had a sell off of assets and put them out of business like should have happened.

          • So intelligent yet so ignorant! They filed Chapter 13 Re-organization, meaning they lose NO assets, but can ballance their phoney Union Pension funds and re-set Union Contracts to tollerable levels! This is what Responsible companies do and what GM wanted to do, but were forced by the NLRB to accept Bailout to preserve the unsustainable Union contracts! Thus becoming the first fully Fascist American Buisness, that will never payback their debt to society and will continue to create junk consumers will never buy! Of course until your Favorite Dictator forces Americans to buy only GM, Hitler did it so it’s well within Obamas mind set! Or as Justice Kennedy said in his ACA Dissent, so now the Government can force every citizen to eat Brocoli’ or buy a particular product (Fascism)!

          • bobnstuff

            Stock value of $0 at time of the bailout. Ask my brother, he had their stock.

          • Also: How many of those Dealerships were Democrat that were closed for frugality? None, just more Crony Fascism on display!

          • bobnstuff

            Source please, I would like to know where that “fact” came from. No proof no fact.

          • Ask Gibson Guitar! It’s out there, just not anywhere a troll like you would look! Just keep your head in the sand, it’ll all be over soon!

          • bobnstuff

            What about Gibson? The break the law paid the fine and are still with us.

      • bobnstuff

        Who is scarring the little old ladies in Texas? Who is filling the heads of the sheep with fear of their own government? Not ISIS but people like Fox News and the Right Wing Shock Jocks that try to scare them. Who is twisting fact to create
        terror in our country? You can believe the lies but I like facts and check things out before I go running in fear. 31 million people live in Texas alone, do you believe the Army could take it over when they could control Iraq? Fools all of you.

        • And I suppose you think the alphabet soup Progressive media is telling you any truth, except maybe about how Buldogs mate? You’re pretty pathetic and again enjoy that bliss of ignorance!

          • bobnstuff

            No I check facts, get real information, go to prime source. I read bills that are in congress. I look at raw data and check numbers. Most of the folks hear can’t do simple math and know no history.

          • ward

            You prove to be a very indoctrinated bo useful commie idiot ..! Reality is you are probably a useless bo muslim type fool that cannot think for yourself, having no brain !

        • ward

          “WHO ” filled your head with bo shit of fear … ? you are afraid of your own capabilities & have to depend on bo to blame someone else for your own stupid ass short comings … ! “When government fears the people it is time to fear the government”, or do you know what that quote really means …? Most commie idiots do not know about Freedom & Rights so this is over your dead head !

          • bobnstuff

            I don’t fear the government, anyone who does is blind.

        • Chip Casey

          Why are the population beginning to fear their government?? How about NSA spying on ALL their citizens and I don’t mean what they confess to the depth that they are really doing and routinely sued for by the electronic frontier. From a director who said the end justifies the means. They think that we want protection at any cost and that means invasion into privacy and personal rights. How about targeting of conservative pacs by the IRS from loss Lerner and then the convenient loss of emails?? Our government stopped being trustworthy long ago. What part of God given rights shall not be infringed that are infringed significantly don’t you see??

      • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

        I have long been worrisome of you and your right wing fanatical friends. Now I know why,

        When you look carefully at Muslim countries, you’ll see they trend to share these values;

        They’re anti-abortion

        They’re very supportive of the death penalty

        They oppose separation of Church and State

        They believe religious doctrine should be taught in schools

        They believe women should have fewer rights then men

        They oppose multinationalism

        They consider homosexuality to be evil and believe gay marriage should be outlawed.

      • Dennis Wenthold

        Yes, the Texas governor does care about Texas but this sounds like a good skit for Saturdqy Night LIve.

    • Gerry Costa

      Are you really as naive as you sound or just plain had your head in the sand for 61/2 years ??????? There is only one reason to have an exercise like this and it NOT for the good of the AMERICAN CITIZENS. Why do you think the POS obozo has gotten rid of every high ranking officer that doesn’t agree with his agenda or refused to turn their weapons on the American citizens. You need to do a little research about the fraud in the White House and you just might change the way you think.

      • Dennis Wenthold

        It is cheaper to train in the USA then overseas. I did training like this in the early 1970’s. I do not understand where uyou are coming from. (Vietnam time vet)

        • Gerry Costa

          Dennis — that was then — we are now faced with different times and a fraud president with his own agenda to destroy this nation. I would probably bet a month’s pay there is an alternative motive behind this exercise coming at this particular time and in those particular states. ( Vietnam Combat Vet )

    • rmagnano

      What an axx Whole! Open your eyes & ears and see how these past years have destroyed almost everything that was good in America.

      • bobnstuff

        Just what have they destroyed? Our freedom, still free, jobs, more the before, economy, better the ever, what did they destroy?

        • Athanasios1

          People that worked at Caterpillar and Ford are now being offered many more jobs at McDonalds, Walmart and Burger King. Bobnstuff is full of chit.

          • ward

            Not for long bo has stench laced destruction for all free enterprise business to become socialistic, commie, bo muslim controlled & dictated by bo’s whims & ways …. ! That is not chit, bobnstuffit is full of, it is genuine shit … !

          • bobnstuff

            Caterpillar s hiring, if you need a job.

          • Athanasios1

            I’m doing well. Thank you for your concern. Tell all the middle-aged white people waiting to apply at the grocery store for a job, knowing they will not be hired at caterpillar because they are middle-aged and white/overqualified.

          • bobnstuff

            Where I work we hire anyone who can do the job and can pass a drug test. There are jobs out there if you want them even for the older work.

          • Ace Dragon

            SO IS MC DONALDS.

          • ward

            So is bo’s muslim brotherhood with fringes of virgins for every type of muslim stench, complements of armed U.S. Patriotic Citizens Militia !

          • William Braudis

            ….you meant …. complements of ” …obamas damned democrat Militia ” .

          • ward

            Meant exactly what I wrote saying the U.S. Citizens armed militia will send them to their 27 virgin hell if any of their asinine muslim cult attacks U.S. Citizens … !

          • Dennis Wenthold

            Because these so called American businesses have taken their factories overseas. Thenew 2016 Ford Ranger is being made in South Africia. Why not in the USA where it can help the American worker?

          • William Braudis

            Americans do not earn, no, RECEIVE, the big paychecks that these union buffoons are being given. Therefor the companies/business’ are not receiving a Fair days Work for a Fair day Wages therefore they must go where they can get high quality workmanship for a fair wages. I look for China on all of the labels, then buy. I owned Fords and GM products and they were all crap. I later switched to TOYOTAS and could not believe that it was possible to own a vehicle that kept me out of the Repair Shops except for oil changes and wheel rotation. Now…… this time is set aside for the bullshiters to come on with their crap about owning a TOYOTA and dumped it into the trash two months later.

          • bobnstuff

            Your Toyota was built in the USA.

        • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

          bob they never havce a factual example just childish rants lol

        • donald540

          They HAVE destroyed MOST of OUR FREECHOICE of a health care system, tey ARE destroying our FREEDOM to PRAY like WE WANT, they have for the MOST PART taken our FREEDOM to SPEAK our minds when and WHERE we want. They HAVE reduced our military so tat we are virtually defenseless

          SO WHAT have they NOT taken away from us YET? ?

          • bobnstuff

            I pray where and when I choose, no one has ever stopped me. I speak my mind and no one stops me. I get to choose my health care provider and am now protected from paying for the free ride people. We have the largest best trained army in the world, It is smaller because we are not at war. Show me the law that was passed that limits free speech, prayer or any other freedom. The government doesn’t even stop people from lying in the media.

          • reinhold

            Bobnstuff and RJ Ambrozaitis. Here are facts for you to ponder. READ: “A Short History of The Balfour Declaration.” http://www.barnesreview.org or amazon.com
            “My people perish for lack of knowledge.”

          • bobnstuff

            Sounds like something I might like, Thanks. Love history from that time.

          • reinhold

            You can be certain that the facts presented in the concise history will serve as a plain guide to rightly dividing the truth. You will find evidence that identifies WHO the culprits are, What they did and when, why, where and how they did all of the evil that has decimated peace and prosperity. From this it wil become profoundly obvious what must now be done by us. Americans cannot repent because Americans will not confess. The American Fiunedsr declared throughout the Land, “No King but King Yeshua (Jesus).” In His name and by His power. Reinhold

          • Ace Dragon

            CHRISTIANS NOW BEING TARGETED!! MUSLIMS JIHAD CAMPS IN THE USA. CANNOT PRAY IN SCHOOLS. THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPEING. OUR MILITARY IS NOT THAT STRONG AS YOU THINK ANY MORE. GO KISS OBAMA’S AZZ. YOU SEEM TO AGREE WITH WHAT HE IS CAUSING TO THIS COUNTRY. LOOK HOW ALL YOU YOUNG PUNKS TRASH EACH OTHER. THATS WHAT IS GOING TO HELP OBAMA WITH HIS PLAN. WE CAN’T TURN ON EACH OTHER. IF WE KEEP DOING THAT, WE WILL BE KILLING EACH OTHER IN THE STREETS WHEN THE SHTF.

          • bobnstuff

            Where are you, as long as there are tests there will be prayer in school. What you can’t do is make people pray. You can have bible study on the students own time but you can’t make anyone go to them. It’s freedom from religion. I don’t want you pushing your religion on me or anyone else any more then you
            would like someone to push their religion on you or your children. Since I see you aren’t a Christian I think you would like not having religion pushed on you. As far as the US military, who said we don’t have the strongest Armed Force in the world. I’ll bet it is some one who hates the President.

          • Dennis Wenthold

            Good thoughts. We have not been permitted to pray in schools since the 1970’s. 1st amendment requires separation of church and state. That is why the schools have a moment of silence. Society has to have morals and values (Golden Rule) and a honest police force. Without morals and values what is left?

          • ward

            You dumb ass, now you are paying bo & his minions to create his dictatorship from muslim hell … !

          • bobnstuff

            Are you truly that stupid? How do you remember to breath?

          • Dennis Wenthold

            The 1st amendment separates church and state and still does. Freedom of speech must be done with responsibility. It gives you the right to speak against the government without the fear if being arrested. Our military is reduced because we have more technology to fight wars and the republicans are fighting taxing the rich to help pay for this item. (17% of the USA budget)
            Oh, by the way, our son has done four tours in the middle east already.

        • ward

          Your head is up so far & locked that you will never see the shit his stench laced E.O.’s have created for his all destructive future of U.S. Freedom & Rights …! Sure as hell wasn’t bo that helped the U.S. Economy or jobs …!

          • bobnstuff

            Is sure wasn’t the republicans that got us back on track, just say no, even their own bills.

        • Seldena

          Government taking over everything stupid is not being FREE! Economy is NOT better. You liberals just keep spewing your lies…

          • bobnstuff

            You say the government is taking over everything. Really? I think you need to go out and look around, Get off the computer and take a walk. Start paying attention to the real world, you will feel a lot better.

          • Dennis Wenthold

            Well, the economy is not worse. And no where as bad as it was in 2009

          • ward

            Better take a closer look & stop believing bo’s lies … !

    • Chip Casey

      Bob, american cities are NOT good training grounds for cities like those found in the middle East. The army has cities like those on bases like ft. Hood. The only real reason to use american cities is to prepare to use the military internally. I wager even the participants aren’t aware of the real intent of these war games. It is to get them used to doing it so when it really happens it will be within their experience realm.

      • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

        Chip did you serve? What rank did you attain? Chicken shit?

        • reinhold

          It is profoundly presumptuous to imply that service in the US military qualifies one as a Defender of Liberty! The first American traitor was a US Army General. Benedict Arnold and his Jewish partner trafficked war material. Supreme Allied Commander Dwight David Eisenhower called himself,”The Terrible Swedish Jew.” He was hated by all subordinate command officers. He commanded the cowardly murder of American General George Patton. He directedthe genocide of 10 million German men woman and children after the war ended. Stupid American made this war criminal US President! Such criminal conduct has never ceased. Americans cannot repent because Americans will not confess.

          • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

            Rheinhold it is presumptuous of you to imagine my motive for asking my querstion. As far as it being an on topic question to ask it is. Asking someone who is discussing military tactics is perfectly acceptable to inquire into their background in such matters. So you can stuff a sock in it as once again you sit and spin trying to make a point regarding something that was never said.

          • reinhold

            You added to your query to Chip, “…Chicken shit?” It is cowardice that you add that silly question mark in a vain attempt to disguise your accusation. This bogus question implies that Chip is not qualified to preset his ideas and is a coward. Now you exacerbate your arrogance by lecturing me and alleging that I am altering facts to “spin” my assertions. This sort of silliness I have described elsewhere as, “The No Spin Spin Spin” It is obvious that you are not nearly crafty enough to accomplish even this. Please try harder to elevate the standard of review and refrain from uttering such abysmal schoolyard gibberish. The matter is serious. This is not a circus!

          • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

            Ich kann sehen, da Sie nicht in der Lage, einen Punkt zu drehen sind, versuchen Sie dummerweise einen anderen spin. Nicht zu wissen, wann zu beenden, ist eine offensichtliche Schwäche auf der rechten Seite.

          • reinhold

            RJ Ambrozaitis replies in German: “I can see, as you will not be able to find a point to turn, try stupidly a different spin. Not to know when to stop, is an obvious weakness on the right side.” Non sequitur. I suppose this is as good as it gets. There is no point to turn.

            WE fully realize that America has been subjugated to the UberJuden by the current insurrection by Renegade Public Servants in service to the Kosher Kabal of the Bogus Bank of Credit Fraud. Regardless of any federal tactic We The People must arise and crush this insurrection. We must Arrest, Abolish and Exterminate that Kosher Kabal of the Bogus Bank of credit Fraud. Lead, follow or get out of the way. Sieg Heil!

          • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

            Il n’importe pas quelle langue il est dit dans vous êtes un idiot

      • Dennis Wenthold

        You live in a fantisy world. What if an ISS group attacks a mall.
        Don’t we need the military to help the police?

        • Chip Casey

          You are the one who lives in a fantasy world were some massive Isis incursion occurs that requires military (beyond national guard) assistance. Also my personal safety is up to me, not some cop that won’t be around when the xxxx hits the fan. If everyone owned and carried their firearm and Isis stormed a mall they would be severely outnumbered at the start.

          • Dennis Wenthold

            I won a gun too and would stand with you to defend ourselfs

    • ward

      No, the right wing is not the problem as much as the libtard left & bo’s commie indoctrinated for “change” to a muslim tyranny that is his whim to destroy U.S. Citizens Freedom & Rights..! While bo creates his own wannabe dictator no matter how many more of his illegal criminals it takes to destroy the U.S. Constitution , congress does a no stop bo … !

    • ward

      bobnstuffit ; You really do not know shit about anything, do you …?…!

      • bobnstuff

        Ward, You are a sheep and will believe any lie you are told. The bigger the lie the happier you are. Say Hi to big foot for me.

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