Made in Taiwan: Trump Call Provokes China?

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December 3, 2016

Donald TrumpPresident-elect Donald Trump had a potentially provocative phone conversation Friday with Tsai Ing-wen, the president of Taiwan, which could upset delicate relations between the U.S. and the Chinese government.

It is believed to be the first call between a president or president-elect with a Taiwanese leader since 1979, when the U.S. recognized the mainland government and cut ties with Taiwan.

China has claimed sovereignty over the self-ruled island since the Chinese civil war of the 1940s and insists that its more than 170 diplomatic allies, including the U.S., avoid making official contact with the island’s leadership.

But Washington has remained a staunch informal supporter of Taiwan, part of its network of Pacific Rim allies even after the U.S. cut diplomatic ties with Taiwan in 1979 in favor of the economically more powerful China.

On the 10-minute call, a first between a Taiwan leader and a U.S. president-elect since that year, Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen said her government wanted stronger ties with the United States, Tsai’s office said in a statement.

“The president hopes to strengthen two-way interaction and communication and establish closer cooperative relations,” the statement said. “The president also told Trump that in the future she hopes that on the question of international relations, the U.S. side can continue to help Taiwan have more chances to participate and make contributions.”

  • Danny Reagan

    The world, China, Mexico, Russia and our democrats (everyone) needs to understand America has a leader now, it seams different, because we haven’t had one for awhile. But you can rest assured by putting America first, he will do what’s best for America.

  • justinwachin

    Let’s see…China supports North Korea, China has no problem selling products laced with dangerous chemicals, China is one of the world’s leading polluters, and China has made no bones about its desire to become a rival superpower. It doesn’t look to me like China is all that interested in our well-being. They are selling a lot of stuff in America which destroys our nation’s industries and allows them to collect a lot of our nation’s financial resources.

    Maybe it’s time for us to seek to develop an open relationship with Taiwan. I doubt they could be any worse for the U.S. than what China is.

  • stan lee

    No problem having friendly relations with Taiwan. China does not own USA’s friendship! We don’t tell China how disturbed are our feelings that China is Russia’s pal! China has access to the American market, a good benefit to have, especially with all of China’s trade deficit to the USA, China’s cyber hacking, China’s stealing of copyright property of USA, and its virtual copying of American production products. Oh, there’s more! China should be thankful that the USA has been overly patient with the trade deficit in favor of China.
    I would like President Trump to address that trade deficit, plus China’s constant currency adjustments.

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  • Nonsense, China worries about this phone call about as much as they worry about one less cell phone not being in one of their factories.

  • Rick D.

    No matter what Trump does, the liberal media will find something to criticize Trump about. Either it’s not doing enough or doing too much! Of course, if it’d been Barry doing this (case in point– his support of Cuba), the media would be falling all over themselves with praise and adulation.

  • parthenon1

    China better walk softly remember all that kept us from defeating and moving them out of Vietnam was the empty headed war protesters in this country especially “Hanoi Jane”, (Jane Fonda). we won all the battles on ground and in air but the idiots in this country did it to us.

  • AKLady2015

    Trump is insulting every one of America’s allies.

    As a result, when he starts WW III, we will no longer have anyone fighting by our side. Yes, he will start WW III, he has left no doubt.

    He is destroying everything previous government administrations worked so hard to put in place.

    All this and he is not yet President, he won’t be sworn in until Dec. 19.

  • Pete

    A BAD decision by the peanut farmer from Georgia finally being corrected. That socialistic slug also gave the Panama canal back to a despot local government & his successor had to go drag that drug lord despot out by the scruff of his rotten neck. The foolhardy jack wagon has been on a “Hate Israel/Blame Israel” rant for several years. He may yet beat out the big O as the worst occupant in the White House.

  • dmttbt

    Trump said they called him, not him calling them. I suppose it is alright for Obama to open trade with Cuba under a dictator and with a record of human suffering at his hands. The media is going to call things the way they want them with no regard for the truth. What if he did call them? What’s the big deal is China going to get angry and cut trade with us, a situation that they have the upper hand on and have for years. The man has not taken office yet and people want to complain about what he does. Obama did a lot of things but they were not reported by the same a holes who are quick to condemn Trump. Gee I can hardly wait to see what is next. the fact of the matter is that Trump was elected by the people. He received more votes than anyone in history as the republican nominee. When something finally was dug up on Trump from 4 years ago the republicans jumped ship immediately. Now they visit Trump wanting to kiss his ring or something to get back into his good graces. Mitt Romney would get nothing, maybe a one way ticket to Benghazi, but that would be it. He and Juan Williams and Geraldo Rivera and maybe Kupernick ( the 1114 million dollar a hole who taked a knee when the National anthem is played).

  • ZACAL

    The first story I read Taiwan called Trump to congratulate his victory. However; the media wants to report it as Trump calling Taiwan. The media is still reporting in campaign mode. The media need to get it through their extremely thick skulls that they’re short fat crooked candidate lost big time.

    • CharlieSeattle

      LA Times article shows Trumps tweet that says he took the call from Taiwan’s President.

      http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-taiwan-trump-china-20161202-story.html

      • ZACAL

        That’s fine, tweets can be read around the world. If one of Trumps tweets prompted a call to Trump congratulating Trump that’s OK. Trump never initiated a call. Taiwan is small potatoes compared to China. Respect is all Taiwan wants.

        • Pete

          And China isn’t about to make much of a fuss. They may hold a bunch of our IOU’s but,since the EU is floundering, if we don’t buy their stuff their economy will fall down around their ears.

    • Pete

      I have been watching the broom pilot since the mid 1970’s. As bad as you think she is, you haven’t even scratched the surface.

      • ZACAL

        To be honest, I don’t know a damn thing about her. However; I spent a few months on Taiwan, then called Formosa back in 1958. The Chinese were marching five divisions down their east coast. They were shooting artillery from the Quemoy Islands over to Formosa. Pretty damn scary when you could hear those huge artillery shots zing through the air at night. Nothing came close but changed shorts often. That tells you how long China has been upset with Formosa/Taiwan…

  • TexasTeddy

    I wish the biased media would get this story straight – Taiwan Prez CALLED TRUMP, not other way ’round! What was he supposed to do, refuse the call??

  • tryscavage

    Come on now. We Democrats have taken eight years to totally destroy this stupid USA and become Duke or Earls in the ‘Global Society’ and NOW you serfs think you can make all of our work useless? Come on now.

  • Tiger

    Who cares O insulted every single Allie we had. Our allies are all excited about Trump, the world is excited about Trump. O went to Europe one last time and was met with riots everywhere he went.

    You folks are smart and we know that China and N. Korea are not going to do anything. Huff and Puff. We still have all our protection in place, it is not as easy as anyone thinks to attack us or slaughter us.

  • Sven

    Taiwan is a sovereign nation and if they want to have trade relations with another nation without having to get permission for China is fine by me. We see their independence from China as a freedom act and respect Taiwan.

    • ArcticGrayling

      For sure. If Trump wants to normalize relations with China, who says he cannot? If mainland China raises a stink, they can choose what’s more important. Would it be their connection to Walmart or their claim over Taiwan?

  • The_Frog_Prince

    Who gives a rat’s ass what the Chinese think. It’s about time we had a leader with enough backbone to tell them to stick it where the sun doesn’t shine. We sell a lot of military hardware to Taiwan. Who has the right to tell the POTUS who he can or can’t talk to?

    • Askjrsk

      About time.

    • Luke

      Right, I don’t believe you’ll see our new leader bowing to the chinese like the chicken-in-chief in office the past 8 years.

  • used_to_be_a_liberal

    So, Trump just gave the Chinese Government a slap in the head. Good about time. Remember what Trump said about China during his campaign, looks like another promise he is going to keep.

    • Askjrsk

      Yes

  • randy jackson

    Trump is like a magnet.
    Nice stick in the eye to all Establishment politicians and demented DumboRATS!

    • Askjrsk

      Nobody going to tell Trump what to do. Lessons for Obama, that he can understand his failed presidency and legacy clearly.

      • randy jackson

        The only thing Ovomit understands is prejudicial racism, dope, elaborate vacations, incompetency and the Quran.

  • rodstew

    Afraid China won’t give you a safe space, liberals? Analogy: when I start letting my next door neighbor friend start telling me who I can talk to or have over to my house, my house is no longer my house. But the liberal will say, but he’s BIGGER and might burn your house down. Wasn’t it the liberals’ god Franklin D. Roosevelt who said, “You have nothing to fear, but fear itself.”

    • Askjrsk

      Control manipulation and intimidation. Couldn’t you se Obamas trembling st this happening to him? She

      • ArcticGrayling

        He was probably afraid that the Chinese would expose his faggot lifestyle. I am guessing that’s why Obama bent over for lots of foreign leaders,

  • itsfun

    Since when did China decide who our President can talk to?

    • Askjrsk

      Excellent

  • bobnstuff

    There is good news and bad news here. I have always believed that we needed to support Taiwan’s independents but we are pulling the tail on a tiger when we do it. We exported $79 Trillion to China in the last year, that’s a lot of American jobs. China is also not a country to get into a war with. We have a much stronger military but they have more people and they don’t care if they die in a conflict. Taiwan buys $20 Trillion from us so even though there economy is much smaller they are still a pretty big customer of the US. Neither one is a truly good partner though because the export a lot more to use then they import from us. This is why we need a trade agreement like the one sitting on Obama desk. Here is Trump’s chance to show us if he the man for the job.

    • PatriotGal

      If you are referring to the TPP – it shall NOT be signed by POTUS Trump. As to our needing them for exports, they need us way more than we need them. It’s about time we stop allowing them to export garbage to us using our own companies’ “intellectual property” – because they refuse to manufacture anything unless they are given fill technological info. Outrageous. China can go jump off the map and we would do fine. It would be a struggle for some not being able to buy “cheap” stuff, but we could surmount it by manufacturing here in the USA AGAIN – yes, Make America SAFE and Great Again!!!

      • Askjrsk

        Absolutely

    • kbfallon

      I don’t have a clue as to where you came up with those figures…..

    • astrojohn

      “…We exported $79 Trillion to China in the last year, that’s a lot of American jobs. …” What the hell are you talking about? Trillion, billion, what’s a few zeroes…

    • Askjrsk

      Go in negotiating out of fear? That’s Obama. Give away the family jewels. Trump is a businessman we don’t need to worry. That’s why he was our choice and we voted Trump.

      • bobnstuff

        Atlantic City! A prime example of how Trump does business.

        • Askjrsk

          What’s your record? How many businesses do you own? How many people do you employ? Average wage, do you pay women equally to what you pay men? What’s your record of public service? What’s your balance sheet look like? How much do you pay in employment and social security taxes? How about sales, municipal, local and state taxes? Not your federal taxes. IRS thoroughly covers those.
          Or are you on the public welfare system?

        • Askjrsk

          Ignorant response.

          • bobnstuff

            Trump Airlines. For every big success Trump has had he has also failed big time. He’s more of a gambler then a businessman.

    • Peter Smith

      bobnstuff, your numbers are very wrong. The US had a trade deficit to China last year of $365.695 billion, not trillion. We exported $116 billion to China last year. We only exported a little more than $19 billion to Taiwan and had a trade deficit of $10.2 billion.
      The trade agreement you mention sitting on Obama’s desk is not an agreement, it was Obama’s way of telling US industry and the US people to bend over ……… The rest of the world just sits back and laughs at the White House Mulato.
      Nothing Obama has had his hands on will remain whole when Donald Trump takes his oath of office. And unlike Obama, he will live up to oath.

      • bobnstuff

        Has anyone ever looked to see what the agreement is or are you just repeating what you have been told? Tell me what part of the agreement you think is bad for the US. Give examples from the agreement. If you do this you will have done more the Trump has done.

        • Peter Smith

          What I have been told? You make a statement that implies I need to be told how to act and think. I have read enough on the subject to make an informed personal opinion.
          1) The TPP is a trade agreement that will do absolutely NOTHING for our current trade deficit.
          2) The TPP will do nothing that will help the American worker or keep manufacturing on our soil, employing US workers. If anything, it makes easier and more likely the many more current US jobs will move overseas.
          3) It will become an environmental disaster. Other participating countries will not be held to the levels of environmental protection that US companies are held to.
          4) It doesn’t address China.
          5) Any trade deal entered into by the USA should put US interests above all else. This one does not. If anything, it establishes a tribunal of sorts that would rule on trade disagreements and there would is no chance of appeal, even for our own government.
          But this is now water under the bridge, Donald Trump is the President-elect and the TPP agreement perishes here and now. I get my wish and TPP fails.

  • teaman

    So, writer, why would you call his receiving a call from Taiwan provocative? He has the right to talk to whom ever he likes and it means nothing. I don’t care if it ruffled feathers, for China has become an over stepping piece of excrement anyway. They are just like Russia and North Korea and believe their countries should rule the world by whatever the costs!!

    • Askjrsk

      It’s like China Donald Trump is not intimidated by you. Obamas is gone. American whimp days are over. Happy Days are here again

      • dmttbt

        I hope so but we still have to get rid of all the Muslim did while he was president for eight years. How did that happen? How did someone with no birth certificate and with sealed records who’s mother band father and grandfather and grandmother on both sides were communist, who said in the book he wrote himself on page 261 that he is a Muslim become president of the united states for 8 years??? I guess Jimmy Carter was smiling when Obama approved Cuba. Remember he was the one who said send us your poor and your uneducated and Cuba opened its prisons and sent the lowest form of people they could find.

    • dmttbt

      Lets not forget that we borrowed money from China and then turned around and bitched about it. Our country has been operating off borrowed money and counterfeit that was printed because our government was broke. Yes broke. For those Bernie Sanders followers and those who think the government should provide free college, wake up and smell the hole we are in.

  • CrustyOldGeezer

    FINALLY!!!

    Letting a ‘former’ STAUNCH ALLY know that we DO NOT forget our Friends.

    RED china was another ‘gift to America’ from the socialist LOVING/borderline communist georgia peanut farmer at the expense of an ALLY.

    How many of our ALLIES took a good look at our dumping FREE CHINA and giving away the seat on the Security Council at the un to a rabid rogue communist country?

    • bobnstuff

      China for good or bad has a place in the world and not excepting that fact doesn’t change it. In case you didn’t know it they are the largest nation in a number of ways. China is much less communist today because of Nixon’s trip all those years ago. Taiwan is our ally only because it work to their benefit.

      • CrustyOldGeezer

        carter is the one that gave us iran too.

        Taiwan was our ALLY when they were still on the Mainland and being overrun by the communists.
        FREE China was our ally during WWII and before.

        But, I guess history is irrelevant unless it fits your perspective.

        • AKLady2015

          China seems to like capitalism.
          No need for war.
          .
          Russia also was our ally during WW II.
          War makes for strange bedfellows.

          • Retired

            That is why China is building the biggest military in the world. You are the most anti US person who claims to be a Vet and Military family.

          • bobnstuff

            China has the largest number of troops not the strongest military. We have that destination. Their navy is unimpressive and they just got their first aircraft carrier. We out spend then 5 to 1.
            http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
            We are number one.

          • Retired

            There were Satillite pictures of Chinas Aircraft factories as well as Ship yards . They were not passenger planes or cruise ships. There were also pictures of the activity in Russia. We are falling behind with every Democrat controlled leadership in WDC.

          • bobnstuff

            You need to keep up on our military. It’s been going through major changes in the last ten years. New ships, new aircraft, there’s even a new tank in the pipeline. The biggest change is drones. They are the weapon of the twenty first century. We out spend the next four countries combined in military spending.
            http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
            If you visit this sight you can see what each country has going for them. In fire power we can’t be touched.

            There have been a lot of people trying to sell the idea that we are less of a nation then we once was but in fact we very strong in a number of ways. Our military is number one, our manufacturing is the second largest, our exports are the second largest. we have the largest economy. We manufacture more goods today then we have ever done in history and it has been increasing every year for a very long time. I’m so tired of people saying we don’t make things anymore.

          • Retired

            You are right about drones , but they will not take out a sub. or carrier.The pentagon and its suppliers are getting the bulk of the spending. Just look at the disaster the last round of ships that were built, they could not even make it to their home port without breaking down.

          • bobnstuff

            We have 19 Carriers, Russia has one, old out of date carrier. They say you can smell the Russian Navy from a hundred miles away. China has one carrier. The new ship will be very good once the bugs are worked out.

            Total Aircraft: 13,444
            Fighters/Interceptors: 2,308
            Fixed-Wing Attack Aircraft: 2,785
            Transport Aircraft: 5,739
            Trainer Aircraft: 2,771
            Helicopters: 6,084
            Attack Helicopters: 957

            Total Naval Strength: 415
            Aircraft Carriers: 19
            Frigates: 6
            Destroyers: 62
            Corvettes: 0
            Submarines: 75
            Coastal Defense Craft: 13
            Mine Warfare: 11

            Tanks: 8,848
            Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFVs): 41,062
            Self-Propelled Guns (SPGs): 1,934
            Towed-Artillery: 1,299
            Multiple-Launch Rocket Systems (MLRSs): 1,331

            Now go to the link and see what other countries have.

          • AKLady2015

            Congress makes the laws.
            Congress spends the money.
            You elect Congress.

            Maybe you should make better choices.

          • AKLady2015

            China is the largest country in the world.
            CHina has thw largest population.
            It serves to reason that it would have the largest miitary.

          • AKLady2015

            They always have had.
            Sure did them a lot of good during the Korean War — NOT.

          • Retired

            That is where you are stuck in the Korean war era, a problem with aging. You don’t no what is going on right in front of your nose.

          • AKLady2015

            Unlike you, I KNOW what is going on.

          • AKLady2015

            China is the largest nation in the world.
            China’s popultaion is the world’s largest.
            With the Western world boiling over relgion and racism, China needs that miitary, just to protect uts borders.

          • Retired

            Alaska will be their first target. They like Dimocrats for their free money and lack of Brains.

          • AKLady2015

            Alaska is a Repoblican state.
            There is no “free” money.

          • Retired

            But you are some of the ODD BALLS that are democrats hiding so you do not live with them.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            and who said anything about war?

            Is it your <80 IQ speaking again?

          • bert shaw

            80 is giving her the benefit of the doubt, which by-the-way I doubt it’s anything near that high

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            I put ALL Liberals in the sub 80 category.

            It’s a generous gift I know, but….

          • AKLady2015

            George Washington was a liberal.
            Just ask the British, don’t take my word for it.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Would you care to offer your ‘reasoning’?

            Had George Washington been a ‘liberal’ he never would have gone to War with the English for ONE main reason.

            Now the test for the day for you and your slow thinking frenz is …

            Why NOT?

          • AKLady2015

            Go back and read what was written — pay very close attention to the second sentence.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            But sweetie, I don’t need to ask the English, and I’m asking YOU.

            Is the question too difficult for you to answer?

            Getting closer to the “sub 50” IQ group.

          • AKLady2015

            Apparently you have a reading comprehension deficit.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            You would be the most experienced person on that.

          • AKLady2015

            Jow would you know, you can’t count past 20. To do that you have to take your shoes off.

          • AKLady2015

            Just your well-documented lack of comprehension.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            oh golly.

            Which of your “under 60 IQ” folk did you pay to dream that one up?

            I’m still not impressed and this comment, again, fails to ADD to the conversation.

          • AKLady2015

            Sorry, a 60 IQ is beyond your reach.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            still nothing of value to the discussion.

        • bobnstuff

          It was Nixon’s visit that started everything. It was after he left office but it was the start.

      • Gary Border

        bobnstuff –

        I agree with your first 3 sentences. Your fourth sentence is also correct, but the following generalization is MORE CORRECT:

        ” ****** is our ally only because it works to their benefit”

        Here, the reader is free to replace ****** with any nation on earth.

        • dmttbt

          Why would anyone be our friend because it doesn’t work in their favor?

          • AKLady2015

            Common sense is a rare commodity on this board.

            It is also a rarity in the younger generations, beginning about 1970.

          • Retired

            Common sense is what you are lacking.

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

      • Askjrsk

        So? Trump can’t talk to Taiwan because…

        • AKLady2015

          He is an idot and is hard at work starting WW III by destroying allthe deplomacy that came before him.

          • Retired

            You are the only IDIOT promoting WW3.

          • AKLady2015

            Ha, ha, ha, ha,….

          • bobnstuff

            Don’t you be calling our next president an IDIOT.

          • Retired

            I did not know AK is our next president. She made the Statement about Trump and not me.

          • bobnstuff

            Trump has said in his speeches things that would start WW III if he really did them. Some are large things like giving Nukes to Japan and South Korea and some are little things like trade wars and attacking a third of the worlds populations religion.

          • Retired

            What Trump said he wanted to do and what he can do is two different sea stories. Remember Hillary was briefed on WDC issues and Trump was not until at the last end. The Idiot in North Korea is the biggest problem in that part of the world. He would be stupid enough to attack Japan. Look at the relation of china and North Korea.

          • AKLady2015

            Trump’s plan for his first 100 days:

            •Take away health insurance from 20 million Americans — oops, the Republican right-wing has decoded it likes the ACA.

            •End free education for the American people.

            •Begin mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants.

            •Nominate a Supreme Court justice who will vote to end legal abortion.

            •Pass new libel laws targeting critical journalists.

            •Enact national “stop-and-frisk” laws — oops, he backed off this one, state’s rights issue.

            •Prosecute and potentially jail Hillary Clinton — oops, he backed off this one.

          • Retired

            You have been reading the toilet news again.

    • Askjrsk

      Well stated .

    • Tiger

      It is amazing how blatantly stupid and evil all of these people are.
      O went to every enemy we had in the world, that was OK.
      O made a Deal with those who named us the Great Satan and gave them billions, that was OK.
      O went to Cuba and cut a deal with Cuba, that was OK.
      O had terrorists leaders in the WH, that was OK.
      O is bringing in millions of people who want to kill us, that is OK.

      On and on, keep it up so the world can continue to see what you are and go ahead and take Christianity, Israel and everything that stands for good in this world and put that Muslim Brotherhood as leader of the DNC and die completely off, I will help dig your graves.

      The history of America from the Liberal perspective.

      America was founded to destroy “native Americans” and to find a place to invent slavery which never existed before.

      These slaves built the country, settled the land, fought its wars and
      invented everything while white male devils whipped the slaves,
      oppressed women, keeping them barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen,
      lying around idly when not destroying the environment.

      Christians are hateful bigots who want to ruin your sex life while
      atheists are enlightened believers in science and Muslims practice the
      “Religion of Peace™” while living in fear of religious oppression.

      Then these racist, bigoted, homophobic, sexist, drug addled, white,
      male, Bible thumping, deplorable idiots stole the Presidency from
      Hillary! and elected Donald Trump who will destroy the world.

      And that will be the end of history.

      Labels: History, revisionist history, sarcasm

      Don’t know the author but boy ain’t it the truth.

      • AKLady2015


        Let’s restart the Cold War.

        Let’s increase the National Debt by 288%
        like Saint Reagan did.

        Taxpayer, are you willing to pay for it? Ha, ha, ha, …

        • Retired

          Here you go again with being stupid just like our media.

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    • CharlieSeattle

      Nixon went to China first.

      But it was Pres. Bill Clinton that worked very hard to pass China’s MFN trade status, NAFTA and treasonously traded ICBM telemetry chips for illegal Chinese campaign contributions.

      http://www.tonyrogers.com/news/clinton_china_nukes.htm

      http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/02/flashback-bill-clinton-collected-donations-then-us-missile-tech-shipped-to-china/

      https://partners.nytimes.com/library/politics/052498clinton-donate.html

      • CrustyOldGeezer

        Nixon was not in office when when the Security Council seat was taken from Taiwan and given to the Communist Chinese government.

        Bill Clinton, working through Ron Brown transferred Multi Stage Rocketry separation technology to China ‘by accident’.
        A DIRECT ACT OF TREASON, and no accountability.

        • Retired

          But Bill Clinton was such a Great guy, just ask any Democrat ? The fools wanted to put the Clintons back into the WH.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            That would be the “Below 80 IQ” crowd of which you speak?

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

      • Pete

        And some still wonder why I continue to refer to him as “Traitor Bill”

        • Retired

          Why do you think Hillary lost, many of us remember Bill Clintons Crap.

      • AKLady2015

        Why do you need to tell these lies?
        Why do you embarrass America this way?
        Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
        Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

        • CrustyOldGeezer

          That’s the list we keep asking you and you keep pretending to have a brain.

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          • Retired

            If you had any Brain , you would not post such garbage.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Yes it does.

            And your pathetic responses say so much more about you.

          • Retired

            Hardened Moose Schitt for brains. She is the Alaska Queen of trolls.

        • dmttbt

          “You can keep your insurance company, you can keep your doctor” Oh I misspoke. Now tell me who said those things and tell me if he was telling the truth.

          • AKLady2015

            INSURANCE COMPANIES DID THOSE THINGS,
            not Obama, not the ACA.
            .
            Your insurer saw an opportunity to gouge its customers for more momey. Not all insurers did that. Mine did not.

        • dmttbt

          Who the hell are you talking about?

    • AKLady2015

      Let’s restart the Cold War.
      Let’s increase the National Debt by 288% like Saint Reagan did.
      Taxpayer, are you willing to pay for it? Ha, ha, ha, …

      • CrustyOldGeezer

        Why not give us the WHOLE STORY on why the debt increased under Reagan?

        And do try to be HONEST in the telling…..

        WAIT!!!!

        You are a liberal, and the TRUTH means absolutely nothing to you.

        Go stick your head up your….

        sorry, I’m not allowed to say that here.

        • AKLady2015

          The numbers are published by Treasury.
          Are you claiming thst those numbers are false?
          .
          The whole story?
          He lied to the American people.
          He did not fix the economy.
          He simply created more government jobs.
          .
          Supply side economics have never worked.
          They did not work under Reagan.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            As expected, the under 80 IQ speaks again and pretends to have value.

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Do you find yourself at a loss for originality more and more as time goes on?

            It’s a symptom of “Under 60 IQ”.

            You may look into seeking help.

          • AKLady2015

            ..
            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

      • Retired

        Another stupid comment from AK the TROLL of BS. Yesterday was payday and you went wild in the booze locker , it is showing.

        • AKLady2015

          Your dislike for fact is well established.
          Thank you.
          Your input is always welcome
          It says so much about you.

          • Retired

            Present your fact of a cold war , it was started under Obama. you must have missed all the media people that have disappeared in China that promoted freedom in the last few years. Why did China build that reef military instillation ??

          • AKLady2015

            Ha, ha, ha, ha …

          • Retired

            That is correct , you are the Joke with what you post.

          • bobnstuff

            If we are starting a cold war with China Trumps phone call is a first step. The one China policy has kept thing pretty smooth between the US and China. Taiwan hasn’t been hurt by it. Their economy has kept growing and our trade with them hasn’t suffered. China is having some problems with their economy and are doing some saber rattling to keep there people distracted. This isn’t a good time to shake their tree.

  • ArcticGrayling

    Trump is looking for any move that might give him more leverage with mainland China.

    • Askjrsk

      Trump is always working. Not stoned on a golf course with his boyfriends, like we are used to from the Oval Office.

      • ArcticGrayling

        For liaisons with his boyfriends, I would guess that Obummer would prefer Man’s Country or the Lincoln Bedroom. But, like I said, it’s only a guess.

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