Mattis: War with North Korea would be ‘catastrophic’

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August 11, 2017

Jim MattisDefense Secretary Jim Mattis said Thursday that war with North Korea would be “catastrophic,” casting a dire tone after President Trump unleashed a string of warnings to the rogue nation.

“The American effort is diplomatically led, it has diplomatic traction, it is gaining diplomatic results and I want to stay right there right now,” Mattis said while speaking with reporters in Mountain View, California.

“The tragedy of war is well-enough known it doesn’t need another characterization beyond the fact that it would be catastrophic,” Mattis continued.

Secretary Mattis’ remarks followed days of escalating threats between North Korea and the U.S. When asked about the United States’ readiness if North Korea were to take action against the U.S. or another country, KNTV reported that Mattis replied: “I don’t tell the enemy in advance what I’m going to do … We’re ready.”

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  • JOHN STEEL

    It will be the last decision he will ever make. Why don’t his advisors let him know this, are they all stupid? May be the world would be better off with out them.
    MY CONCERN ARE THE LITTLE ONES, they have no idea

  • Askjrsk

    Let’s pray that this deescalates. We have the beginning of WWWIII, which none of us want. Pray for our President our country our leaders and our people. MAGA

  • Tiger

    The clock is ticking on N. Korea. Not just the U.S.in this but many. They understand that this sort of thinking and actions are nitro glycerin and must be taken out. Khomeini should be in the mix. It is bad enough that too many countries have nukes but like Israel, surrounded by nothing but enemies, it is necessary. With America it is also necessary, we are surrounded by enemies. That isn’t even counting those inside our country.

    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/southern-command-warns-sunni-extremists-infiltrating-south/
    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/05/26/dhs-chief-youd-never-leave-the-house-if-you-knew-what-i-know-about-terrorism/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSE8TSMOqgg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXf134uYJ5I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCtiwBrWHUc

  • Neil Bress

    Israel be on standy bye

  • Neil Bress

    They most likely have all the missiles from China

  • Neil Bress

    The trouble is China is using N. Korea as a pawn to see what we have and then they will jump in with Iran. Thank Obama and Clinton for letting it get this far, This is all China”s fault also. they can stop N. Korea if they really wanted too.

  • maxx

    That is a far better answer than would have come out of the Obama SOD. Obama would already loading up a plane with millions in cash like he did with Iran. Even make believe bully’s can’t be reasoned with, they need to be taken out to the wood shed. The last time North Korea rattled the sabers Bush was in office and went sent N. Korea food and medicine to shut them up. That kind of crap just emboldens them to do it whenever they need something. And right now their people need food again.

  • J Wayne Watson

    Looking forward to the 4 missiles NoKo will send to the waters around Guam. Will be a site to behold as our defense system knocks them out of the air. Hopefully that will shock some sense into Kim Un’s brain.

    • Lkfeinb

      We don”t have a defense system that will knock ALL his missiles out of the air. How would you feel if you had relatives on Guam?

      • gvette

        Would you move there, please. I think Kim needs a good target, and it should be you!

      • maxx

        I guess you are absolute proof that “stupid can’t be fixed”.

  • McFerguson

    Gen. Mattis, a man of few words that hit home with an incredible sense of doom and lethality. On “Face the Nation” with CBS’s John Dickerson when asked what keeps you up at night, General, Matthis replied “Nothing. I keep other people up at night.” And as Head of the Central Command a few years ago, ‘Mad Dog’ Mattis was fired by Barack Obama without the decency of a phone call. Obama was a squish and probably couldn’t handle the tough talk.

    • maxx

      What would we even think to expect from that muslim faggot? He threw billions at these people trying to make believe he was a “peace maker”. All he ever was is a “piece” for some other homo. You’ve no doubt seen pictures of him during his school years that have been all over the internet. Proud little faggot smoking weed in some crazy knee high boots. And that is the kind of person the democommies are proud of?

      • McFerguson

        And at Columbia University where he slept through a degree, he said he always sought out the Marxist professors and the boys from the hood when he wanted to discuss ‘issues’. Issues? Yeah, you know, how to fundamentally transform America into a bigger welfare state…This is what the leftist loons dropped on us for 8 f*****g years.

  • DrBillLemoine

    Of course we’re ready as Gen. Mattis said. The problem is, South Korea has elected a ‘reconciliation’ president who wants more contacts with the North and is against war or antagonistic action of any sort. Despite his statements about a ‘rebirth’ of South military and defensive issues in the face of Trump/Kim bellicosity, the population wants both no reunification with the North nor destructive war. Further, China agree to sanctions but won’t enforce them as it wants no democracy on its northeast border and no refugees pouring across the Yalu and disrupting fragile China governance in that area.
    So Tillerson, not Mattis, is left with leaning on Pres. Hu to do more when he doesn’t want to and a resurgent threatening North while South Korea and Japan scramble for self-defense. The alternative to slow-walking Hu is to build up defenses and military presences in the South, Japan and Guam, newly threatened by Kim. I can’t see Trump sacrificing Seoul, which would be destroyed in any hot war, to rein in Kim’s rhetoric, especially when there are alternatives like diplomacy and even kidnapping Kim available. What would the Hague do if asked to try Kim for crimes against humanity, his own people whom he starves and enslaves and even murders to keep his throne?

    • gvette

      Diplomacy. LMAO…that’s worked out real well. Ask your buddy Billy KKKlinton about it.

      • DrBillLemoine

        You are so naïve. No nation with nukes is bombed into submission. We are not going to invade North Korea like Iraq. We could invoke a ‘no fly’ zone over North Korea meaning no planes and no missiles. But all of that requires talking first to set up a trip wire. Even Iraq had our government discussing options for months before the mistake of invading. Absence of talk is a bad sign for all nations, the reason we have the UN. Only you and Trump downplay the role of talking–diplomacy. Every minute the situation changes requiring more talk. With China next door we are not likely to bomb Kim into submission; remember the Chinese crossing the Yalu to reinforce their cousins against America and the United Nations armed forces. There is no substitute for talking as Kim will discover if he makes a military move that will eliminate him from further worries about nukes or missiles.

        • gvette

          Talk with loony toon Kim, is like talk with you Bill. I guess you forgot that it worked well in Japan, and they weren’t even a nuclear nation. Thank God we didn’t have idiots like you in power back then.

          • DrBillLemoine

            We did not talk to Japan–we nuked them after announcing ‘unconditional surrender’ terms. You want to nuke North Korea and have the nuclear fallout kill everything on the peninsula? What a heart–not. Thank God we had Trump, a solid Democrat in power. BTW America had contacts with wartime Japan in 1945 and they ignored/rejected surrender–it was still diplomacy, talking, remember, or weren’t you in school for high school American History classes?

          • gvette

            I guess you want your buddy, your friend Kim to drop one here first. I guess that’s what you teach in school. Oh, by the way. Have you ever heard of our neutron bomb?

          • DrBillLemoine

            Of course, we should not strike first. Lesson from Iraq, and Pearl Harbor. Guess you never heard of THAAD. I didn’t teach history but excelled in school in history. When was the last time you heard of the neutron bomb? It’s a non-factor.

          • gvette

            I guess you think the japs hitting Pearl was a good idea, according to you. Maybe with some luck, Kim will drop his first bomb on your city. Neutron bomb a non factor? Do you even know how they work, Bill?

          • DrBillLemoine

            Keep in mind I’m a math/science person.
            Isolation of America was shattered after Pearl. Afterwards it took less than 4 years to defeat all enemies the Europeans couldn’t stop in 3 years prior.

          • gvette

            Had a liberal like you been power then, we’d be speaking German today.

          • DrBillLemoine

            What nonsense? Clearly you dropped out of high school and missed American history classes. FDR was the uber liberal of his time. Spreken zie deutsch?

          • gvette

            Actually Bill, liberals back in that time period, were a different bread. Unlike you whack job liberals of today.
            You need to pick up a copy of “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder” and read it. Oh, I forgot, you are a math teacher, and reading isn’t your strong suit.

          • DrBillLemoine

            I’d compare FDR to any Republican president at any time in history for smarts, tactics and strategy. If you read your recommended book, you must look at Trump differently, a former liberal who doesn’t read.

          • gvette

            Let’s see. trump built an empire, while you are a tax dollar sucking teacher.

          • DrBillLemoine

            Let’s see–really. Trump went bankrupt 4 times. Trump stiffed thousands of students at Trump U, dozens or more donating their money as his own at Trump Foundation, hundreds of workers at a defunct casino and accepts money laundering and excessive payments from Russian mafia. I’ll take my empire over Trump’s any day–all legal, legitimate and employee sensitive.

          • gvette

            LOL..give it a rest, Bill. You’re a worthless teacher, that know nothing about business. Casinos went bankrupt in NJ, not just Trumps!
            As for foundations, I guess you overlooked Clintons money laundering foundation, and how it worked.
            As for the collage, you heard from the losers, I guess you over looked what the winners said.
            A quick explanation on Clinton foundation. They would give large amounts of money to other foundations. That got them tax breaks. Then the other foundations gave money back to the Clinton foundation, for the same tax credits. Like I said before, you’re still dumb as a post, Bill.
            Oh, I left out the money paid to Billy, from his fake position at Laureate University, where Billy boy received $17.6 million in payments.
            You excell in being a true low information Liberal!

          • DrBillLemoine

            All NJ casinos are on the Boardwalk at Atlantic City. Which other ones went belly up? I heard of none, used to visit there and attend conventions–before Trump debacle.
            The subject is NKorea and Trump, not out-of-the-picture Clintons. There was no money laundering there. Re Trump U, the Southern District of New York division of Justice Department sued, NY papers were the source of data plus MSM. Big penalty for Trump.
            Foundations are established as tax exempt. There is no such benefit to exchanging funds as you describe. Nonsense; not in the picture. Readers are seeing who is ‘dumb’ in this exchange.
            If you avoid MSM data, YOU are low information or full of faux information. All know this but you.

          • gvette

            LOL..the people on this site, know you’re a blowhard.
            http://www.dailywire.com/news/8561/7-things-you-need-know-about-clinton-foundation-aaron-bandler#exit-modal
            Now the casinos, that you couldn’t find.
            https://philly.curbed.com/2016/8/4/12376514/trump-taj-mahal-closed-atlantic-city-casinos
            I misspoke on laundering. It was just a payoff for a fake position at Laureate University.

          • DrBillLemoine

            MOST of what you write is ‘misspoke(en)’. Even the casinos where Trump went bankrupt on 3 of them. It’s hardly something to brag about–your mentor Trump is a bust in business dealings everywhere he turns. I read your link that says essentially Trump caused the demise of Atlantic City as East Coast gambling mecca. You should be proud. Gambling from my own family experience impoverishes people, addicts them into poverty, ruins families. Ever been to GAMANON?
            Food for thought–Trump exhausted American banks for funds which won’t lend to him any more, so he turned to Russian mafia (kleptocrats) who robbed Russia blind and are all beholden to Pres. Putin for their wealth and lives. That’s why no tax returns are revealed, he denies knowing Russians, praises killer Putin at every turn, and colluded with Russia to get into office. He’s truly their ‘lap dog’, awaiting indictment and impeachment for his crimes, via Mueller, who Trump wants to fire causing another crime called ‘coverup’. He’s no better than the mafia capos, but you elected him president for his outrageous promises.

          • gvette

            LMAO…somehow you think Trump is the only business man to file bankruptcy on a business. It happens all the time Bill, especially after your Muslim fucked up the economy. You, never being a businessman, you don’t have a clue, just your demonrat Talking points.
            The Trump Organization has interests in real estate development, investing, brokerage, sales and marketing, and property management. The company owns, operates, invests, and develops residential real estate, hotels, resorts, residential towers, and golf courses in different countries, as well as owning several hundred thousand square feet (several hectares) of prime Manhattan real estate. It lists involvement in 515 subsidiaries and entities with 264 of them bearing Trump’s name and another 54 including his initials.
            You hate, success Bill.

          • DrBillLemoine

            Who tanked the economy–Bush2 and deregulators. Who resurrected America and the world from Great Recession–Obama, Geithner and Bernanke. You are low information posting.
            No I’ve had businesses along with my professional career since my paper route at age 13. Never bankrupt, not even close. It’s not common and not a feather in anyone’s cap.
            Trying to inflate Trump’s holdings? Resorts are golf courses, real estate development, investing, and property management are all the same field. Still–multiple bankruptcies to the extremity that American banks won’t lend to him–or didn’t you read my post?
            The number of companies isn’t important, but his treatment of others is critical–and the reason he’s not successful as president, derived from his one-man-band business operations. Only my advisory service has my name today. Just remember, ‘sooner the camel pass through the eye of a needle than the rich man attain heaven’. Your heart shows where you stand.

          • gvette

            LOL…, you’re idea of a good economy is by doubling the debt with out one thing to show for it. Under Onigger, we had the lowest worker participation since the middle seventys. See, you don’t know the difference between unemployment numbers, and worker participation.
            You owned bushiness while doing other things. I’ll clear that up. You’re a gutless wonder who could’t make in in business without something stable to fall back on. LOL..a paycheck from someone else.
            Then we Omuslims failures.
            http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-failed-obama-green-energy-solar-companies/

            Here are a few things obummer did:First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
            First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
            First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.
            First President to violate the War Powers Act.
            First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
            First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
            First President to spend a trillion dollars on “shovel-ready” jobs when there was no such thing as “shovel-ready” jobs.
            First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
            First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
            First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.
            First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
            First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.
            First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space.
            First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.
            First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
            First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
            First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke out on the reasons for their rate increases.
            First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.
            First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
            First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
            First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).
            First President to fire an inspector general of AmeriCorps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
            First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
            First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.
            First President to golf more than 150 separate times in his five years in office.
            First President to hide his birth, medical, educational and travel records.
            First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
            First President to go on multiple “global apology tours” and concurrent “insult our friends” tours.
            First President to go on over 17 lavish vacations, in addition to date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayers.
            First President to have personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
            First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
            First President to fly in a personal trainer from Chicago at least once a week at taxpayer expense.
            First President to repeat the Holy Quran and tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth
            First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs Arizona).
            First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they “volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences.”
            Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion. (Thank God he didn’t get away with THIS one.)
            First president to allow Iran to inspect their own facilities.
            First president to have blood on his hands from Benghazi to the assassinations of several police officers.
            First president to trade 5 terrorist for a traitor
            First president to facilitate the Iranians to acquire nuclear weapons.
            First president to light up the White House in rainbow colors to honor men that lust after other men’s rear ends.
            First president to put young children in danger by forcing states to allow men in women’s restroom and showers.
            First president to marry a man.
            First president to allow crack cocaine in the White House.
            I could go on for days but you get the point.

          • DrBillLemoine

            You can’t stand that the economy was tanked by the same things Republicans are repeating today with Trump–deregulation and screwing citizens with low pay and few jobs. Check the record–Obama spent $5 trillion, Bush2, $15 trillion.
            Who do you think creates jobs and hires workers, the president or small businesses? No, trickle down, that is big corporate deductions and tax exemptions or cuts, doesn’t work, then or now. Unlike you, I have dealt with those factors and know them.
            And clearly you don’t know teaching with its summers off to pursue personal businesses. More ignorance.
            Actually after my regular career, I worked for a Dow Jones Industrial corporation and won awards in several divisions. It’s a different world. Have you worked in both public and private sectors to compare?
            Obama isn’t president or part of this thread. Guess you are out of ideas and rebuttal on the theme, switching subjects. Enjoy your memories–most of them faux news from the few of your list I read. You are SUCH a bigot. Stick with Trump; oh, I guess he has nothing for you to talk about in accomplishments so far. Pre-presidency we’ve seen a cypher; 6 months in, he’s still a. . .cypher. So are your arguments.

          • gvette

            I’ll give you facts you’ll hate.

            Based on quarterly data released by the US Treasury, the debt at the end of 2008 — just before Obama took office — stood at roughly $10,699,805,000,000.

            As of the third quarter of 2016, the most recent data available, the debt as Obama is set to leave office stood at $19,573,445,000,000.

            We have the final nail in the coffin of President Obama’s economic reign. Not only is the average annual growth rate of just 1.48% during Obama’s business cycle the weakest of any expansion since at least 1949, he has just become the only President to have not had even one year of 3% GDP growth.

            An average annual GDP growth of 1.48% during Obama’s two terms…
            No matter how you call it, Barry was a fucking disaster.
            As for me working. The last 32 years of my working life, I owned my business.
            Teachers. Those that can, do, those that can’t teach!

          • DrBillLemoine

            Figures don’t lie, but liars can figure. You ignore that Obama was forced to retrieve the economy from Great Recession (I mentioned before, but you ignored) back to health bringing the world’s economy back from the brink as well. So factor in this unusual feature of yearly deficits for a real picture of deficit. Within the figures you ignore that Bush2 fought 2 wars and had massive tax cuts; Obama provided We, the People a wonderful healthcare program saving many lives and bringing 20 million people into personal budget sustainability. Bush2 tried to cut social security at the time when Baby Boomers increased their retirements, something that future presidents must address or face overwhelming national poverty and related unrest. Plus Republicans refused an infrastructure jobs bill that would increase the deficit but put people back to work, provide job alternatives for workers and juice the ‘consumer driven’ economy with more disposable income. The Rs also reduced food stamps, housing subsidies and welfare rolls forcing people into the streets as homeless, increased crime in food theft and created unrest with poor people unable to get jobs so they dropped out of the economy and created the Trump populist movement (that he’s not able to recognize or fix). I’d favor Obama over Bush2 any day for compassion, economic good sense and saving the world from Depression. Rs wanted banks to go bankrupt, shut down the auto industry and still stymie job growth in the face of automation.
            And remember what you learned that made you an effective entrepreneur you learned from a teacher, like everybody getting ahead in life. Dropouts don’t get anywhere. Dunces go to jail or live in the streets. So thank a teacher for your livelihood.

          • gvette
          • DrBillLemoine

            The world knows the difference between truth and lies. That’s why most people voted for Hillary, Trump got in by Russian hacking on a fluke and now produces just like we all figured–zero.
            Obamacare was a huge success, not failure. Saved many lives and brought 20 million new subscribers to healthcare which makes a better nation. Maybe single payer will come because your McConnell and Ryan fumbled the ball on ‘replacement’–7 years and nothing but a transfer of Medicaid money to the rich.
            You call it thinking for yourself to add all those links? lol What a cretin. All Rs can do is block and cut; Ds create and improve for the past century or so.

          • gvette

            LMAO…Russia Russia Russia. How many are under your bed Bill? Killary started that, to justify her losing.
            You dummies have been looking for months. It’s a joke. You cocksuckers hate to lose.
            LOL…Omuslim care in not a success. I gave the facts. You DemonRATS hate facts. You don’t like the links because you hate the truth.
            Now, just for fun

            *When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume *

            >> *authority

            >> over a health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she

            >> couldn’t even get a vote in a * *democratic controlled congress. *

            >> *This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million in cost

            >> for * *studies,

            >> promotion, and other efforts. *

            >> *Then President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female

            >> * *attorney

            >> general. * *Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood –

            >> both

            >> were * *forced to withdraw their names from consideration. *

            >> *Next she chose Janet Reno – husband Bill described her selection as *

            >> *”my

            >> worst mistake.” *

            >> *Some may not remember that * *Reno made the decision to gas David

            >> Koresh *

            >> *and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in

            >> dozens of deaths of women and children. *

            >> *Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the *

            >> *head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guinier was her selection. *

            >> *When * *a little probing led to the discovery of Ms. Guinier’s radical

            >> views, * *her * *name had to be withdrawn from consideration. *

            >> *Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some *

            >> *more

            >> recommendations. * *She chose former law partners Web Hubbell for the

            >> Justice Department, * *Vince Foster for the White House staff, and

            >> William Kennedy for the * *Treasury Department. *

            >> *Her selections went well: Hubbell went to prison, Foster (presumably)

            >> * *committed

            >> suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign. *

            >> *Many younger votes will have no knowledge of “Travelgate.” Hillary *

            >> *wanted

            >> to award unfettered travel contracts to * *Clinton friend Harry *

            >> *Thompson

            >> – and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. * *She managed

            >> to

            >> have them reported to the FBI and fired. * *This ruined their

            >> reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a * *thirty-six month

            >> investigation. * *Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a

            >> crime,

            >> and that of * *the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House

            >> funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours. *

            >> *Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend *

            >> *a

            >> close Clinton * *friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of *

            >> *Director

            >> of White House security. *

            >> *When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about

            >> 900 * *FBI

            >> files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of * *drugs

            >> by

            >> White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied * *even

            >> knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use * *in

            >> the White House. *

            >> *Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office

            >> * *after

            >> more than thirty years of service to seven presidents. *

            >> *Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual

            >> harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the

            >> * *”bimbo

            >> eruption” and scandal defense. * *Some of her more notable decisions in

            >> the debacle were: *

            >> *She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. * *After

            >> the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones. *

            >> *She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the *

            >> *appointment

            >> of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. *

            >> *After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr’s

            >> investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about *

            >> *and

            >> later admitting his affairs. *

            >> *Hillary’s devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to

            >> practice law for ‘lying under oath’ to a grand jury and then his

            >> subsequent

            >> impeachment by the House of Representatives. *

            >> *Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice

            >> during

            >> the Starr investigation by repeating, “I do not recall,” “I have no

            >> recollection,” and “I don’t know” a total of 56 times while * *under

            >> oath. *

            >> *After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated

            >> $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that * *she had

            >> stolen. *

            >> *What a swell party – ready for another four or eight years of this type

            >> of * *low-life mess? *>>

            >> *Now we are exposed to the destruction of possibly incriminating

            >> emails * *while

            >> Hillary was Secretary of State and the “pay to play” schemes of * *the

            >> Clinton Foundation – we have no idea what shoe will fall next. *

            >> *But to her loyal fans – “What difference does it make?” *

            >> *Electing Hillary Clinton president would be like granting Satan

            >> absolution and giving him the keys to heaven! *

          • DrBillLemoine

            Is it pomposity or verbosity? You love to type, for little effect. Talk about thinking for yourself. Did you simply copy all those lines of ancient history, unimportant today? Be proud you and your Ruskie bots and mafia backers stole an election. Haven’t had one since 2000 so you were due–all that illegal voter suppression didn’t work, so get the enemy kleptocrats involved.
            None of that speaks to Trump ineptness and bluster prepping for war with a tiny, poor ill-led nation, North Korea. Talk about bullies facing off–it’s Trump and Kim today. No problem, as long as you are sacrificing Korean lives, not Americans. Same thinking pervaded Bush2 idiots leading to Iraq invasion, for nothing. No gain, no win, no oil, just American lives lost. No matter the 100K Iraqis and allied loses. But no ‘mission accomplished’ another blunder. You guys can’t pass a bill worth anything, can’t stop Muslims from coming here, can’t reroute a carrier task force to Korean waters, can’t keep 2000 Carrier Corp. jobs here after bragging about 800 retained. Can’t stop the intelligence agencies and FBI from exposing your treason and collusion with Ruskies, our #1 enemy. Rs like you–totally worthless for governance and foreign affairs. Wait till 2018 and 2020. Trump may be gone but Pence is no prize.

          • gvette

            Like I said, that’s why you’re a DemonRAT. You believe all the lies you are told.It was a good think the Muslim Barry didn’t walk off into the Grand Canyon. All you dumb fucks would have blindly followed him in!
            http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-obama-failures-of-obama-as-president-numbering-at-least-1063/

          • DrBillLemoine

            See, never an interaction or rebuttal, just plow ahead with your agenda. You are unaware that reporters cannot air/print unsubstantiated information, must have corroboration for all assertions, or identify it as such. There is no such constraint in the conservative sphere allowing for much spin, lies, and fantasy narration you seem to like. You lack reliable, valid and substantial sourcing for your stuff, typical on the right.
            Even your detached fantasy of walking off into the Grand Canyon represents your problem, for example. More fantasy and dreams than reality. But your ‘blindly follow him in’ is typical of Republicans who ‘fall in line’, which they’ve now done with mentally ill Trump, eventually to your downfall like Nixon. The signs of crookedness and criminality were there for all to see–but not you.

          • gvette

            LMAO…show me the collusion Bill. Oh, you can’t. There wasn’t any. Then again it was Ok for Killary to facilitate the sale of uranium to Russia, and Billy boy getting millions for speeches in Russia.
            The only agenda I care about, is getting all of Omuslims fuck ups fixed!

          • DrBillLemoine

            Do your fingers always type with brain disconnected?
            We won’t know about collusion details till there are either federal charges or presidential impeachment articles presented due to the secrets that would be revealed. Plus law enforcement doesn’t issue running commentary like the loose lips of conservatives. Remember Comey’s announcements–uncalled for? We are a nation of law and order, precedent and facts–something you righties overlook, especially if the name is Trump.
            We’ve gone over the uranium issue before. Obama collected loose radiological stores worldwide and agreed on safekeeping by USA and Russia. Nothing to see there.
            When you are famous and smart, people pay lots of money to hear your thinking and pick your brains–Clintons. They pay well for it.
            Guess your final wish will also be thwarted. No repeal of Obamacare, no Muslim ban yet, no new wars to distract the voters–not yet. Trump is the only FUBAR I know.

          • NM Leon

            #1 enemy? I guess Obozo was committing treason? “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this can be solved, but it’s important for him [incoming Russian President Vladimir Putin] to give me space.” “This is my last election,” he continued. “After my election I have more flexibility.”

          • gvette
          • DrBillLemoine

            You really have no memory. In the past I’ve told you my students were below average and yet scored above average for years. Notable accomplishment in an urban, poor high school. So long as segregation has reestablished segregation in big cities you’ll find your poor results outside of my classes. Brought me a little notoriety up and down the line. My schools as well were lighthouses of excellence. Much community participation, involvement and support–add teachers and you have a winning formula. I don’t know what your business was but it can’t exceed the results of solid grads and citizens I induced. You simply made money; I made a different community. You also might want to broaden your input to generate some thinking for yourself. Sources you list are mostly faux news, partisan spin and outright lying. I read lots of them to know this, don’t ever cite those losers like you do. Time to act your age.

          • gvette

            LMAO..as you only read left wing rags, then when you look into what they say, it’s easy to find how they twist things. Then again, that’s why you’re a DemonRAT. Follow the leader.
            I’m sure you’re a good teacher.

          • DrBillLemoine

            Proves my point. By my presence on this blog all the world knows I don’t limit reading to ‘left wing rags’. Your (collective righties) problem with data is you don’t test your thoughts in the public arena before spreading the nonsense. By contrast I am recognized on major international news sites as an expert commentator, picked as a top writer, and labeled as such by readers and editors for my good sense and pointed ideas. By contrast I was banned from one right wing blog for contradicting the editor/writer. Where have you ever been recognized for good writing or thinking? No place I’d bet. That’s leading by me, not following by definition.

          • gvette

            International news sites? Care to name them, or give me the links. You’re a devout left leaning communist, that thinks socialism works.

          • DrBillLemoine

            Are you smoking weed? Have no memory? I’m progressive which means selective among all ‘isms’ for my thinking.
            Ever hear of the Wall Street Journal, or Washington Post, or New York Times, or Miami Herald, or Chicago Tribune, or Los Angeles Times? Check their op/ed letters pages, or for other significant issues that might interest me. Or, oops, won’t you remember my name?

          • gvette

            Interesting those are all left rags, Bill.

          • DrBillLemoine

            WSJ? Miami? Kidding again? Those are MSM, not communist or socialist.

          • gvette

            Wall Street Journal, Washington Pest, New York Times, Chicago Tribune are left rags, Bill

          • DrBillLemoine

            WSJ, Post, Times and Trib are edited and written by professional reporters who are widely knowledgeable, follow accepted writing standards, and are educated beyond the right wing types you prefer. If that indicates ‘left rag’, the world responds and reads ‘left’, not your faux news, biased, spin meister directed ‘right’. I’ll take the former every day–add in similarly oriented broadcast media–and absorb reality, depth, and breadth as the rule. That’s the way to preserve democracy and our nation.

          • gvette

            LMAO…they aren’t reporters. They are nothing more then stenographers for the left. You’re easily fooled.

          • DrBillLemoine

            One of my editorial letters to the NYTimes was lauded for reinforcing good reporter skills. That included stopping the fire hose of lies and misinformation spewing from Trump spokespeople, challenging lies presented as facts, and standing strong for media’s place in democracy. You wouldn’t understand with your multiple copying of links presented here and acceptance of their propaganda, spin and lies you don’t recognize. Bannon and Breitbart are the worst, but you don’t know or care, even accepting faux news from the Russians.
            BTW you are so easy to amuse, laughing at my serious retorts, information and comments. It’s more phony baloney from the right which has such low standards for news and wrongdoing on high. You’ve lost the independents and soft Republicans. You could be next with a little more thought.

          • gvette

            Holly shit. You didn’t want to stop the lies coming out of the Muslims mouth.

          • DrBillLemoine

            Eight years–no scandal, no collusion, no KKK in the Oval Office, no bigotry against Muslims, no challenges to top judges, no threats of nuclear war, no excessive vacations to his own property, no mafia attending dinner meetings, nobody in the party voting against his prime legislative bills, no relatives getting benefits from government. I’d even take a couple of lies from Obama, compared to the evil surrounding Trump and family in just 6 months.

          • gvette

            Thank God for Trump appointing a conservative judge, over a liberal judge! It was your Muslim leader that filled our country with Muslims. The nuclear threat comes from one of your pals, Kim. Thank God we have an alpha male in the white house over, over the limp wrist gay Muslim you like so well. By the way, it was Billy that gave them what they needed.
            You might want to read this.
            https://www.christiannewsalerts.com/nsa-bombshell-russia-report/?utm_source=Boomtrain&utm_medium=morning&utm_campaign=20170812-1

            Keep living in your world of lies, Bill.

          • DrBillLemoine

            You forget that seat was stolen from Obama who was entitled to appoint Merrick Garland, hardly a liberal judge, one respected by all. Steal elections (2000, 2016); steal a judge (2016). Shameful.
            You are also confusing border crossing Latinos with Muslims who are all legal and legitimate, not a ‘filling’ at all.
            Also part of your poor memory lobes and recollection is Trump campaigning with clear statement that he would never take nukes off the table and he’d resort to tactical nukes in Europe and elsewhere. Hardly surprising he talks now of ‘fire and fury’ with Kim meaning nukes on the Korean peninsula drawing a threat to Wake Island territory. And you mistake ‘my’ pals for Trump’s Putin pal, another communist tyrant.
            Do you include Bush2 as ‘limp wristed’? At least Clinton tried an agreement which fell through due to Kim deviance. You really don’t think too much.
            You can’t point to any lies from me, ever, again confusing me with your own mentor Trump.

          • gvette

            Well Bill, If Kim gets one over here, I sure hope it lands in your shorts. Limp wrist Barry would try to cure it with a blow job. Limp wrist is a gay term, Bill, you should know that. You profess to know everything else.

          • DrBillLemoine

            It’s so juvenile, all the name calling. How old are you anyway? It adds nothing to any discussion and subtracts from your credibility as a neutral observer of anything. I know it’s related to your ‘alpha male’ crack but real men aren’t worried or threatened by gays, Muslims, wrist firmness, sexual proclivities, and Christians aren’t worried about Kim’s threats. That puts you and your pal Trump in the same box–outliers.

          • gvette

            Bill, you’re nothing more then entertainment for me. LOL..as for the limp wrist comment, it’s true. You hate the truth about your gay black, Muslim. I just thank God every day we din’t get the other country killer elected.

            *When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume *

            >> *authority

            >> over a health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she

            >> couldn’t even get a vote in a * *democratic controlled congress. *

            >> *This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million in cost

            >> for * *studies,

            >> promotion, and other efforts. *

            >> *Then President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female

            >> * *attorney

            >> general. * *Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood –

            >> both

            >> were * *forced to withdraw their names from consideration. *

            >> *Next she chose Janet Reno – husband Bill described her selection as *

            >> *”my

            >> worst mistake.” *

            >> *Some may not remember that * *Reno made the decision to gas David

            >> Koresh *

            >> *and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in

            >> dozens of deaths of women and children. *

            >> *Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the *

            >> *head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guinier was her selection. *

            >> *When * *a little probing led to the discovery of Ms. Guinier’s radical

            >> views, * *her * *name had to be withdrawn from consideration. *

            >> *Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some *

            >> *more

            >> recommendations. * *She chose former law partners Web Hubbell for the

            >> Justice Department, * *Vince Foster for the White House staff, and

            >> William Kennedy for the * *Treasury Department. *

            >> *Her selections went well: Hubbell went to prison, Foster (presumably)

            >> * *committed

            >> suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign. *

            >> *Many younger votes will have no knowledge of “Travelgate.” Hillary *

            >> *wanted

            >> to award unfettered travel contracts to * *Clinton friend Harry *

            >> *Thompson

            >> – and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. * *She managed

            >> to

            >> have them reported to the FBI and fired. * *This ruined their

            >> reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a * *thirty-six month

            >> investigation. * *Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a

            >> crime,

            >> and that of * *the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House

            >> funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours. *

            >> *Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend *

            >> *a

            >> close Clinton * *friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of *

            >> *Director

            >> of White House security. *

            >> *When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about

            >> 900 * *FBI

            >> files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of * *drugs

            >> by

            >> White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied * *even

            >> knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use * *in

            >> the White House. *

            >> *Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office

            >> * *after

            >> more than thirty years of service to seven presidents. *

            >> *Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual

            >> harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the

            >> * *”bimbo

            >> eruption” and scandal defense. * *Some of her more notable decisions in

            >> the debacle were: *

            >> *She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. * *After

            >> the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones. *

            >> *She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the *

            >> *appointment

            >> of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. *

            >> *After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr’s

            >> investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about *

            >> *and

            >> later admitting his affairs. *

            >> *Hillary’s devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to

            >> practice law for ‘lying under oath’ to a grand jury and then his

            >> subsequent

            >> impeachment by the House of Representatives. *

            >> *Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice

            >> during

            >> the Starr investigation by repeating, “I do not recall,” “I have no

            >> recollection,” and “I don’t know” a total of 56 times while * *under

            >> oath. *

            >> *After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated

            >> $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that * *she had

            >> stolen. *

            >> *What a swell party – ready for another four or eight years of this type

            >> of * *low-life mess? *>>

            >> *Now we are exposed to the destruction of possibly incriminating

            >> emails * *while

            >> Hillary was Secretary of State and the “pay to play” schemes of * *the

            >> Clinton Foundation – we have no idea what shoe will fall next. *

            >> *But to her loyal fans – “What difference does it make?” *

            >> *Electing Hillary Clinton president would be like granting Satan

            >> absolution and giving him the keys to heaven! *

          • DrBillLemoine

            Your tactic won’t work with me. You are out of ideas and justifications for crooked Trump and family so drag up irrelevant history to hide the fact. I, and most Americans, thrived in the 90s under Clinton. I have good memories of that era. Your continued nitpicking is simply out of date, not relevant today. None of what you drag up again led to what we see now with Trump who is and was a criminal from the get-go. I spotted both crooks Trump and Nixon before election but my Republican professor refused to see and believe my report, gave me my only B- in graduate school. After personally arguing my case he raised the grade but my thesis was ultimately proved correct. I never heard from that partisan again.
            Again no American bank and few experienced politicians will join Trump in governance.
            Could it be I’m not the only one who sees his lawlessness? It means he governs with family and neophytes in executive management–W. Ross involved in Russian money laundering, Manafort supported deposed Ukraine president Yanukovich, Bannon tied the KKK vote down with Rep. Scalise (R-La), Flynn schmoozed Russian mafia, Trump himself received the ex-KGB colonel Putin’s hacking and monetary help; and much, much more we’ll find out soon enough. These affiliations are why no tax returns are released, why Trump seeks to fire Mueller like he did Comey, had to let Flynn go, and covers up his sordid history at every turn and disrespects our European and Asian allies while praising our #1 enemy, Putin. You blind supporters are headed for a big fall soon. Get ready to bounce hard.

          • gvette

            That was kind of you to type all that crap, with no facts to back it up.
            As for politicians not going along with Trump, they are afraid he’s going to disrupt their gravy train. Remember, Trump is an outsider. Unlike your politicians, he can’t be bought. Remember, your pal killary was bought, and paid for by every dictator, and despot in the middle east. Christ, she had a bar code on her pantsuit!
            Oh, and lawless. LOL…look no further then your Muslim Barry.
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/11/02/obama-administration-lawlessness-the-top-five/?utm_term=.2eadc7f5b6db

            http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/19/10-ways-obama-violated-constitution-presidency/

          • DrBillLemoine

            I suppose you are Rip Van Winkle or new to politics. All that history you glean from those persecuting Hillary for decades has been long ago put to rest, justified or dismissed by thoughtful people, not partisans. The facts are legion and available to those who look, not my job to do your research.
            Pols apart from Trump are also legion and growing as revelations of his wrongdoing emerge under the special prosecutor. That’s why Trump wants to fire Mueller. Trump is, as you say, an outsider–to politics. The gravy train you mention is called ‘due process’, ‘regular order’ and the will of the people. Trump doesn’t know what those mean, as a showman simply spewing marketing slogans and exorbitant promises; facts, he hasn’t built a Wall paid by Mexico, or repealed and replaced Obamacare, or banned all Muslims, or passed tax reform, or enacted infrastructure legislation. The swamp hasn’t been drained but augmented by his cabinet and personal (family) staff. That’s why regular Republicans are leaving in droves. Now he threatens ‘fire and fury’ nuclear war: a total jerk.
            Repeating, as your memory is non-existent even to this thread, Clintons get money for a stellar foundation that does much good in the world, accepting money from everywhere to help humanity.
            Now obviously the Spirit is not within you. I have been at times a Congregationalist, Methodist and now Baptist. Calling Obama a Muslim is like calling me a Congregationalist. It was my mother’s choice when I was young and had no choice. Get it now?
            And if you know any Christian scripture, let alone Gospel, you know your words here show no heart, allegiance to Mosaic law and hence are not born again. Repent now.

          • gvette

            LOL…I guess you missed it when gay boy said he will be true to his Muslim faith.
            Just for fun.
            http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/did-obama-just-say-hes-a-muslim-again/

          • DrBillLemoine

            I guess I did miss it, as the campaign attacks were against Obama as a Christian member of Rev. Wright’s congregation in 2008, a clergyman who was over the top in rhetoric against Republicans. Remember now? Gay was never a factor I remind you as VP Joe Biden had to take the lead standing for them and gay marriage. You really should retire from posting with your non-memory and faulty thinking.

          • gvette

            My memory is good. I remember Barry’s grandmother saying he was born in Kenya, as did his half brother. That was all kicked off to the side because it didn’t fit your progressive narrative!
            I also remember the work the Joe Arpaio, and Mike Zullo did proving beyound a shadow of a doubt that Barry’s birth certificate was forged. I remember they gave their finding to congress, and they did nothing.

          • DrBillLemoine

            Bigot Arpaio has been bounced from office. That doesn’t happen to truth-tellers, non-birthers. I have Obama’s birth certificate copy. Don’t you? I don’t remember any ‘grandmother’ statement as you say. Is that like Trump SEEING with his own eyes, Muslims dancing in the streets celebrating 9-1-1? It’s a lie. Learn to tell the difference.
            Congress only acts on lies in this term, with no passage of Obamacare repeal and replace. It’s another lie, as the bill is simply a wealth transference from Medicaid recipients and Governors’ budgeteers to the already wealthy. McConnell and Ryan must go for their lies and ignoring the public that supports them.

          • gvette

            Bounced? It’s an elected position. Joe did a great job, and the DemonRATS did all they could to destroy him, including your gay ne-gro Barry.
            http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074

          • DrBillLemoine

            Yep, voters ousted this bigot, unworthy to represent Arizonans. Quite a contrast today with Sen. McCain in 2008 and recently in the Senate chambers.

          • gvette

            LOL..only you would back ole songbird McCain!

          • gvette

            http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-01-18/news/0101180026_1_budget-surplus-federal-budget-surpluses
            You mean the truth doesn’t work with you. Like you said, you’re a progressive!

          • DrBillLemoine

            Good times don’t happen by accident, despite the negative view in your link. You can always find a dissenter. Years of Clinton economic progress were due to good policies led by the president, as today’s absence of policies by Trump has not juiced this economy. You need leadership and legislation which charismatic Bill always had and most of American, including me, thrived in the 90s. Remember too on the other side, Gingrich was censured by his own party, so you can’t credit his ‘Contract with America’ for anything without Clinton. Similarly today, Trump has NO policies, no goals aside from enhancing the family brand, and no plans because he never thought he would be president. Just listen to him continue his amazed bragging in every public rally today. Problem is, he has no truth in him, is the pure ‘huckster’ showman, lies constantly and will be judged for that in 2018 and 2020. BTW in MSM not everybody is a liberal or progressive, something your crowing ignores.

          • gvette

            What you don’t to want to admit to, phony DrBill, is that was accomplished with republicans leading the house.

          • DrBillLemoine

            Take a course in legislative process. It doesn’t work the way you think. Executive leadership is required to mobilize and orient legislators to pass things of value. Even then there’s no guarantee as in Obamacare repeal and replace which had only Senate/House leadership.

          • NM Leon

            “Your tactic won’t work with me.”

            Of course not Bullschitte Billy, the truth has no place in your life. You are a despicable liar.

          • NM Leon

            Really? According to the NYT search engine you don’t exist.

          • NM Leon

            Stop lying, Bullschitte Billy, the NYT search engine has never heard of you.

          • NM Leon

            Too bad that none of their search engines have heard of you BB.

          • NM Leon

            Your presence here just proves to the “world” that you are an idiot libtard fool.

            If you are “recognized on major international news sites as an expert commentator, picked as a top writer, and labeled as such by readers and editors for my good sense and pointed ideas” then you will have no problem providing links, right? No? Then that is just further proof that you are a lying sack of schitte.

          • skisok

            We were also in a Depression or Great Recession thanks to Bush and his cronies and Bush started the spending and their was no choice but to spend ourselves out of the malaise the idiot got us into. What was the deficit when Bill Clinton left office moron and what was the yearly deficit. We had years of surplus under Clinton until slimeball Bush came into office and destroyed our country.

          • gvette

            Let us establish one point definitively: Bill Clinton didn’t balance the budget. Yes, he was there when it happened. But the record shows that was about the extent of his contribution.

            Many in the media have flubbed this story. The New York Times on October 1st said, “Clinton balances the budget.” Others have praised George Bush. Political analyst Bill Schneider declared on CNN that Bush is one of “the real heroes” for his willingness to raise taxes — and never mind read my lips. (Once upon a time, lying was something that was considered wrong in Washington, but under the last two presidents our standards have dropped.) In any case, crediting George Bush for the end of the deficit requires some nifty logical somersaults, since the deficit hit its Mount Everest peak of $290 billion in St. George’s last year in office.

            And 1993 — the year of the giant Clinton tax hike — was not the turning point in the deficit wars, either. In fact, in 1995, two years after that tax hike, the budget baseline submitted by the president’s own Office of Management and Budget and the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office predicted $200 billion deficits for as far as the eye could see. The figure shows the Clinton deficit baseline. What changed this bleak outlook?

            Newt Gingrich and company — for all their faults — have received virtually no credit for balancing the budget. Yet today’s surplus is, in part, a byproduct of the GOP’s single-minded crusade to end 30 years of red ink. Arguably, Gingrich’s finest hour as Speaker came in March 1995 when he rallied the entire Republican House caucus behind the idea of eliminating the deficit within seven years.

            We have a balanced budget today that is mostly a result of 1) an exceptionally strong economy that is creating gobs of new tax revenues and 2) a shrinking military budget. Social spending is still soaring and now costs more than $1 trillion.

            Skeptics said it could not be done in seven years. The GOP did it in four.

            Now let us contrast this with the Clinton fiscal record. Recall that it was the Clinton White House that fought Republicans every inch of the way in balancing the budget in 1995. When Republicans proposed their own balanced-budget plan, the White House waged a shameless Mediscare campaign to torpedo the plan — a campaign that the Washington Post slammed as “pure demagoguery.” It was Bill Clinton who, during the big budget fight in 1995, had to submit not one, not two, but five budgets until he begrudgingly matched the GOP’s balanced-budget plan. In fact, during the height of the budget wars in the summer of 1995, the Clinton administration admitted that “balancing the budget is not one of our top priorities.”

            And lest we forget, it was Bill Clinton and his wife who tried to engineer a federal takeover of the health care system — a plan that would have sent the government’s finances into the stratosphere. Tom Delay was right: for Clinton to take credit for the balanced budget is like Chicago Cubs pitcher Steve Trachsel taking credit for delivering the pitch to Mark McGuire that he hit out of the park for his 62nd home run.

            The figure shows that the actual cumulative budget deficit from 1994 to 1998 was almost $600 billion below the Clintonomics baseline. Part of the explanation for the balanced budget is that Republicans in Congress had the common sense to reject the most reckless features of Clintonomics. Just this year, Bill Clinton’s budget proposed more than $100 billion in new social spending — proposals that were mostly tossed overboard. It’s funny, but back in January the White House didn’t seem too concerned about saving the surplus for “shoring up Social Security.”

          • skisok

            Horse hockey. It was Clinton’s ability to work across the aisle with the GOP that resulted in annual budget surpluses. Yes surpluses. If you want to change history, please work with the uninformed. They will buy your story line, hook and sinker. This administration knows nothing about working with the Congress. He’s a dictator. That’s not how Democracy works. He obviously had problems growing up in establishing relationships with other people. A clear sign of Autism. He needs help from the people in white jackets. The his country is in trouble under his helm.

          • gvette

            LOL..I sent facts. The time line. You don’t like it, because it doesn’t fit the lies you believe.

          • skisok
          • gvette

            LMAO..you actually believe that crap. I guess you don’t know much about where the budgets come from.

          • skisok

            My stuff is fact. Your stuff is imaginary crap you made up while sitting on the porcelain invenience where most ultra conservatives do their thinking. Only problem is they forget to flush after they’ve come up with the crap.

          • NM Leon

            The economy tanked because Dems insisted on forcing banks to make mortgage loans without verifying income or creditworthiness. The deregulation that attenuated the idiocy was Clinton’s repeal of Glass–Steagall.

            Working as a greeter at Disney World doesn’t qualify you as a financial anything.

          • NM Leon

            Wells Fargo was an American bank the last I heard, as is Ladder Capital. You are an idiot, Billy.

            Odd (and illegal?) that your advisory service isn’t registered with the Florida Office of Financial Regulation, or is that just make believe like your supposed publishings in the NYT when their search engine never heard of you.

          • Lkfeinb

            Dr. Bill, You are arguing with a moron. Haven’t you ever heard the mantra “Don’t argue with those less intelligent than yourself? “

          • DrBillLemoine

            Thanks for your support 🙂 I’m a teacher and we deal with folks at all levels trying to raise them to their potential. Some are more difficult challenges but my results are above average over the years. Keep reading and thinking.

          • NM Leon

            You are such a liar, Bullschitte Billy. You are no more a math/science person than is my dog. You (supposedly) taught 8 bit computers when the rest of us were teaching ourselves the BASIC software and building our own computers.

            You are so math challenged that you actually claimed you were the super at a school that doubled it’s enrollment every semester.

            You are a transparent idiot, Billy.

          • NM Leon

            Again you proudly display your overwhelming ignorance of science.

            All thermonuclear dial-a-yield fusion reaction warheads that have about 10 kiloton and lower as one dial option, are in effect neutron bombs.

            THAAD is a great system, but it targets the terminal phase of an incoming missile and would be useless against an EMP.

            Excelled in history?? Tell us again how the Crusades were the cause of the Dark Ages or how Austria was the furthest west that Muslims ever ruled in Europe.

            You are too funny, Bullschitte Billy.

          • goldie

            We don’t think with our hearts, like liberals; we think with our minds.

          • DrBillLemoine

            You think Trump has his ‘mind’ in gear with his statements to Korea? It pays to have both mind and heart. BUT read some of the posts in my thread and see if there is heart or mind attached. . . ?

    • gvette

      BILL CLINTON paved the way for North Korea’s nuclear war-mongering two decades ago and had the power to stop the growing threat from Kim Jong-un’s hermit kingdom, experts have sensationally claimed.

      The former US president signed a diplomacy deal with North Korea in October 1994 in the hope he could stem the threat of all-out war and instead bring the isolated nation into the “global community”.

      But the pact was quickly betrayed by the warmongering nation who covertly developed nuclear weapons while the US subsidised billions of dollars to prop up the regime, experts claim.

      And little over a decade later after the Agreed Framework was signed – promising billions of dollars in aid for a North Korean nuclear freeze – Kim had conducted its first of many nuclear tests.
      You’re still an asshole Bill.

      • DrBillLemoine

        Can’t do the math either, eh? Kim was a baby in the 1990s. You forget that Korea is only under a cease fire armistice, not a peace treaty from 1953. Regardless of presidency, talking has not seen any more invasions on the peninsula. With a determined tyrant in power named Kim there’s nothing short of persuasion that will stop a ‘growing threat’.
        Trust but verify is the mantra you are seeking. Reagan said it. Clinton didn’t follow the advice but Obama has verification in place with Iran. Trump isn’t even talking. So where is the fault?
        Clinton for trying; Bush for alternate bellicosity? Trump for loose lips disconnected from reality and procedure?

        • gvette

          Kims family members Bill. You are stupid.

          • DrBillLemoine

            It’s your own words that cause the mess here–‘ two decades ago and had the power to stop the growing threat from Kim Jong-un’s hermit kingdom’. Readers will judge–you aren’t capable.

      • chw2000

        Bill is a huge asshole. So full of himself because he has a phd and is the smartest math teacher on earth. He knows so much more that any retired general. I would be willing to bet that the only uniform asshole Bill ever wore was a band uniform. Just take a look at the wimpy picture next to his screen name.

        • gvette

          He also doesn’t seem to know much about history, when it makes his DemonRATS look bad.

        • DrBillLemoine

          Generals, active duty and retired, all avoid war and bellicose talk–unlike Trump. Just because my positions happen to agree with most of the nation–in polls, on air and in print–doesn’t mean yours can’t align too. It just make common sense, no genius required.
          lol No band uniform, just air force. At least I have a picture–am now hiding from the public like you with neither picture nor real name. Your posts explain why–all nonsense.

          • chw2000

            Phuk you Billy. I’m not hiding from anyone. AND, President Trump is the Commander in Chief and unlike your Obama, he doesn’t wear a pink bicycle helmet and tell people like Kim to “cut it out”. You seem to believe that NK is ok and YOUR President is wrong. I guess you would handle NK by hiding in your closet. You may have a Phd, but you’re still an idiot!

          • DrBillLemoine

            You are scared to death someone you know will challenge your wacky thinking. That’s what sorts the nonsense you post from good thinking that passes the test of public airing. I know your type abounding on conservative blogs. Phony name or no name, no picture or somebody’s pooch–anonymous is chicken any way you slice it.
            The article is about today, about Trump, about Republican’s owning all 3 branches and crapping out now for 6 months. Maybe that’s why you’re hiding–embarrassed for your conservatism, your party, your president. I’ll take my kind of idiot any day over chickens**t you.

          • chw2000

            I’m not hiding at all. Put your address on your response. Your home address and phone number and then we’ll se who’s chicken. Your bullshitte doesn’t change anything. You really don’t know what you’re talkiong about. Now you think your a psychologist. You’re a math teacher Billybullshitte. You need to stick with what you know and stop pretending you’re all things to all people. You’re an ass hole!

          • DrBillLemoine

            You see any addresses on these pages? You can google can’t you? ‘chw200’ produces nothing: that’s your posts.
            As I’ve said before about reporters, teachers and advanced education, more schooling makes you more attentive to the world and able to think about many things. You wouldn’t know.

          • chw2000

            Phuk you BullshitteBilly. I’m far more educated than you could ever be. You can wipe your ass with your phd. That’s about all the value it has in the real world. And if you think you’re going to get my address, you’re as dumb as you look in your picture. You are not welcome at my house and should you visit, I would consider it an attack on me and my family and would respond in an appropriate manner. Use your expanded thinking ability to understand what appropriate manner is. I’m sure even a self proclaimed genius like you can. Now, go phuk yourself!

          • DrBillLemoine

            Your posts stand for you. It’s shameful and everyone with a shred of decency should shun you everywhere. You have no credibility except for extremism and cowardly hiding.

          • chw2000

            Again, phuk you Billybullshitte. You’re a complete idiot and can’t stand for anyone to disagree with you. You must have had at least half your brain sucked out. I assure you dip shi* I am not the coward here. You’re an a$$ hole and full of shi*. Conversation is over a$$ hole.

        • Lkfeinb

          You couldn’t light a candle next to Bill Clinton.

          • chw2000

            I wasn’t talking about Bill Clinton. tHE most disgraceful President in the history of this country. But then I guess having a young impressionable aid service his dick is ok with you liberals. You’re right up there with Billbullshite.

          • Lkfeinb

            As I said, you couldn’t light a candle next to Bill Clinton or Obama, the first George Bush or even Ford. You are the asshole.

          • chw2000

            Oh no sunshine, You’re the asshole. Did you give Clinton a blow job too? You’re a total idiot!

  • American Me

    Well I hate the thought of another War,but I think it would be a short one.I hope the little FAT Kid isn’t that Stupid.He has to know that we would destroy NoKo if they attack us.I hope the words of President Trump make him think twice before he makes the biggest mistake of his life.

    • TPhantom1

      NoKo, China, Philippines, Cuba, Russia, Mexico, Muslim ( yeah I said Muslim)trained military cells set up in strategic locations all over the US. Then it appears Hawaii is Communist or leaning that way including it would appear most of our democrats in government . Kinda appears we are surrounded as killary and the obamanation were and still are pro communist or just flat out intent on the destruction of the US and anything Christian in anyway it can be done. I suspect this will not be a single strike against the US when it comes or from the direction suspected but a well planned multi directional coordinated action. I’m suuuuure I’m not the only patriot who understands and sees this. Keep you’re powder dry and your eyes open folks.

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    • Carol

      Agreed.

    • Lkfeinb

      Then move to Guam for the “short” war.

      • Retired

        Are you that blind to NOT see what is going on ????

      • ssilv48

        Idiots like you need to move back to the middle east

  • Paul Franklin

    I like that he’s no nonsense, take action soldier to the corp

  • Just Saying-2

    I feel good with this guy in charge.

    • Lkfeinb

      He isn’t in charge. Trump is and needs to be impeached. The only head of a country he doesn’t ever criticize is Russia. He is weak and dangerous.

      • gvette

        LOL…still living in your Killary delusional world, I see.

        • Lkfeinb

          Look in the mirror and see delusional. You are in the minority now, thank God!

          • gvette

            LOL..using DemonRAT math, maybe!

          • Retired

            The Anti Trump are in the Minority swallowing what the media spoon feds you .

      • But
        The Muslim in Chief before him was OK.
        YOU Imbecile!!!!!

      • Just Saying-2

        You are dangerous and weak. You should be easy picking if the radical leftist get their desired civil war. Now be gone before you get your feelings get hurt.

        • Lkfeinb

          Weak is Trump. A bully and a jerk. Just you wait. Time will tell.

      • TAM44

        Another cry baby snowflake, still cannot believe his treasonous traitor hillary rodham clinton lost the election, keep crying. Trump don’t bow down to kings or take crap from that fat boy kim jong un. President Trump has done nothing to be impeached for you stupid liberal democrat piece of obama squeeze. Vladimir Putin knows president Trump is not a BOY like that corrupt lying treasonous traitor sissified muslim BOY barack hussein obama. You can take that to the bank, Trump is a leader something we never had for eight years.

        • Lkfeinb

          You need to go back in your double wide.

          • TAM44

            I’ve never lived in a trailer in my life you liberal piece of obama squeeze.

      • Retired

        So are the BS you post . You have no clue how the system works .

      • Wilbor Gavin

        You are as full of s**t as Hillary, and McConnell are.

        • Lkfeinb

          I’ll take Hillary any day. McConnell can go to—–

      • TAM44

        You poor cry baby, let your mommy kiss your hurt feeling , now go protest somewhere, you’ll see all the other idiots like yourself.

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