Pope Francis: I am not a Left-ish

by Jesse Byrnes | The HIll  |  published on September 23, 2015

Shortly before Pope Francis touched down on U.S. soil for the first time on Tuesday, he assured journalists that he is not a liberal, according to reports.

“Some people might say some things sounded slightly more left-ish, but that would be a mistake of interpretation,” Francis said aboard his flight from Cuba to Joint Base Andrews in Maryland.

“It is I who follows the church … my doctrine on all this … on economic imperialism, is that of the social doctrine of the church,” Francis added, according to Time.

  • cutterguy

    we are warned to watch for false prophets. people will think wrong is right and right is wrong. Are we there yet?


    This Liberal had a chance to speak about PP and harvesting thru abortions, but rather spoke of climate change and capitalism. Misplaced Priorities.

  • ed

    The Bible is pro death penalty. The Pope hasn’t been reading his Bible! I’ve been saying, we need a Prophet, not a president. I hope he isn’t a false prophet. The president surprised me with his speech, it was very Christian, he even quoted JESUS, but his past actions negate what he said.
    Repent America, and turn from your wicked ways, and follow JESUS, that you may be saved and your land healed! Your self-righteousness is as filthy rags, to The RIGHTEOUS GOD. ” Seek first The Kingdom Of GOD and HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, and all the rest shall be given to you besides.”

    • Ped Xing

      So, you really believe in a “god” who had his OWN bastard son publicly tortured to death? Creeepy!

      • Gnowark

        I can’t wait to hear what pedxing believes in, considering how you chose to frame your comment. Should Christians take the same ‘poetic license?’

        • Ped Xing

          What ‘poetic license’?

  • game50

    The Pope and Barry Soetoro a.k.a. O Bomb Us are after the same thing and that is One World Order.

  • fred

    If this Pope were serious, he would remove all priests who they know have committed crimes against their Parrishs’ by theft, deceit and child abuse! Only then will the Church have a chance of getting back into many people’s lives, he is just another political figure who wants people to give of themselves so they can later betrayed, very shameful unless he cleans house of all the perverts! Allowing a Priest to marry would solve a lot of the Church’s problems in my opinion!

  • bcamota

    The bible say, “put your trust on God, not on man”. He who build his house on the Rock, which Jesus Christ, is eternal and he who build his house on sand is temporal.

  • pete G

    If this Pope wasn’t a left wing Socialist and believed in climate change Obama wouldn’t even consider inviting him to the US. Obama is a total, political, a$$ hole.

  • pete G

    If he’s so worried about the environment why doesn’t he go visit China, their the ones messing up the planet, we’ve done enough.

  • libsrtheh8ters

    He is promoting socialism & the utter & complete LIE of global warming that DECIMATES the poor & strokes the 1%. This lying P O S only allowed the most radical global warming propagandists/climate “scientists” to speak at the Vatican, He is about as Christian as mohammed was & as far as I am concerned can take his leftist propaganda right straight to hell with him. What did Jesus say about knowingly leading his people astray?

  • reagangs

    He may not be left-ish but he is one of the many “sheeple” being led to the slaughter by the Puppet Masters old Georgie Soros and other UN and EU elite socialist. Reminds me of the pope during the Nazi and commie times.

  • mousekiller

    A lot of history that America has been involved in has been erased from the history books over the years. so that people only know cuts and snippets of history.Students graduating college that are dumber than a box of rocks. If people knew today what happened yesterday in history, We would not have obummer, We would not be kissing up to Iran,Libya, No need for the dead democrates to vote many times. No Ferguson’s happening. Greed usually triumphs over good every time.

  • Only doctrine any church needs is the Bible! Live by the Bible and all is well. Put Man in charge, then there are personal opinions, and not biblical. Most Catholics don’t even read the Bible, they rely on their Priests to tell them what they should do! Revelations tells a lot about the Catholic Church or you can watch it here – http://putlocker.is/watch-revelation-the-bride-the-beast-and-babylon-online-free-putlocker.html

  • don

    dear pope you are a leftest an more your a marixest like your buddy obama

  • Joy Beum

    Priests have the attitude, in my opinion, that they are equal to God. That is why I am Protestant. Anyone who raises themselves to that level has a long way to fall and I have a feeling that he is about to do just that. Only God can forgive sin; not a priest or other clergymen.
    This pope is accepting of the act of homosexuality as long as they don’t marry when it states clearly in the Bible that homosexuality is sin. Where, chapter and verse, does it state in the Holy Bible that homosexuality is not sin?

  • Robert Early

    If the Pope has a special relationship with the Lord, then why is he participating in the Global Warming fraud? Perhaps because hell is getting nearer to his feet.

    • msueh

      good observation 🙂

  • martianpoet

    If economic imperialism is so bad, why is the Catholic Church one of the largest non-government property holders in the world? Why does the Pope not issue a declaration to undo one of the prior pope’s edicts that changed the rules so that only single men can be priests which was to counteract married priests dying and leaving their worldly possessions to other than the catholic church? Would that not constitute a form of support for economic imperialism??? As for his misinterpreted leftish commentaries — was he not a lifelong citizen of Argentina? Other than leftist/socialist/ communist dictatorships, what experience does he actually have with economic imperialism (not counting US foreign aid to Argentina)? Catholic Church is made up of all classes of citizens, some good, some bad. Economic Imperialism gets more money into the church coffers which in turn gets more help out to the needy and still leaves plenty for large churches and buildings and legal funds for pedophile priests and bishop accomplices that just move the offenders to other parishes. Economic Imperialism is the fuel for his reign and travels all over the globe. Careful Pope Francis, don’t bite the hand that feeds!

  • messup

    Totally FALSE!
    Mr. Obama is a follower of two philosophies, one religious (Islam) the other Marxian.
    POPE FRANCIS is a follower of left-of center religious thinkers (some Islamists) and the other – Marxian.
    Where the POPE resides (Argentina), was born a was raised, is not far from where Brazilian Presidents Lula and Dilma perfected their far leftist take over of Brazil.
    Cardinal Arns (of Sao Paulo) is an ardent apologist of Marxism as is POPE FRANCIS.
    So, these (two human beings) are by no way, shape or form LEADERS. They are FOLLOWERS – as is America’s President Obama…a follower of Islam. Pray. Amen. God Bless America. Read A Bible and do home study of NKJV,

  • donemyhomework

    Wow! A lot of Bible thumpers.

    • don

      an one who is a non beliver

      • donemyhomework

        I believe, but just not quite the way you guys do. I don’t like “canned religion”. I don’t like anyone trying to tell me how to interpret anything. I’ve done a lot of research, and I stand by my research.

  • john jones

    this mobster should be locked up for stealing from the poor.

  • HankBar

    Even the Pope got bought off. Guess he wanted a piece of the green action.

  • Albert L Biele

    Why is the Pope talking about ‘Global Warming, I’m sure he read Revelation; a period of severe catastrophes that causes famine and deaths over a seven year period. His expertise is God. He should be telling Obama to stop killing babies and also, explain to him that, homosexuality is a sin. The Pope must know by now that this administration has removed Christianity from our military, businesses, Federal and State facilities, and presently prosecute Christian business owners, and Federal employees for refusing to break their covenant with God’s laws.
    Where is the message of hope; Jesus is the way the truth and the life, and no one can go to the Father, except through the Son. Global warming is not going to set them free!!!!!


    Hey Pope.! It’s the way how u say it and manner, makes you really lefty. Your mistake was opening your stupid mouth.

  • Mark Pascucci

    I’d like to ask Pope Francis: To the left of WHAT??? Politics have been driven so far left, that a lot of so-called Republicans are on the left. The mayor from hell, (John V. Lindsay), was too far left for the Republican party in 1969, so they kicked him out. I’ll bet that he’d be welcomed with open arms in TODAY’S so-called Republican party. They’d compliment Lindsay on his “good looks and charisma, his gravitas”. Yup, what is normally leftist, has been proclaimed as the middle ground.

  • KDC

    Anyone involved with BO is not to be trusted. I didn’t watch any of that garbage. You know they’re talking NWO stuff.

    • Ray Waller

      Thank you for your reply KDC…I see we are brothers in Christ….Did you know Jesus’s name is Jesus Emmanuel the [Christ]…many people think His last name is Christ which means [God with us]…or messiah!

      • KDC

        Well, Ray, I’m your sister in the Lord. Yes I knew that was not His last name. Can’t wait to meet you. Don’t forget to look me up. ☺️ Come Lord Jesus!

        • Ray Waller

          I’m pleased to have met you sister…I have more than 40 years of research…and the unexpected privilege of standing in the Lords presence talking directly to Him in 1984. The Lord showed me many things like…the Rock is the solid Words Peter spoke, saying, “Thou art the Son of the living God” … If we confess that Christ is the Son of God and believe in our hearts that God raised Him up on the third day…we have an Eternal home in Heaven…and on that Rock “I will build my church” says the Lord. There are numerous things I could go into…like why there is no snake or apple in connections with the Garden of Eden…Check Rev.12:3,9 and Rev 20:2 and look up the Greek Def. for Serpent…in this case it means “an artful, malicious person…especially Satan.” I won’t take any more of your time, Just wanted to show how easy it is for people to misinterpret or to be misled from Gods Word!

        • Ray Waller

          By the way….my Email address is ray0344@att.net if you would like to share anything with me…pleased to have met you…Bye Bye.

  • messup

    An activist POPE, with actions speaking louder than words. His DOCTRINE of SUSTAINABILITY has but one purpose…mask all Vatican, Curia’s and Bishops dalliances and peccadillos in all nations of the world. Yes, widespread destruction of Christian places of meetings and worship are now rampant and evident, in the news every day. Why, one asks, is the Vatican (and POPE) silent on these matters? For the simple reason the Catholic church is an immoral, amoral entity (RE; Constant Vatican financial shortfalls, and Constant indictments of Vatican Financial managers with judges decisions of long jail sentences). Raping of children in Afghanistan (recent cases) and Catholic priests soliciting sexual favors from underage young adults are one and the same…as ugly as this may seem. The POPE’s message of Climate Change and World ‘SUSTAINABILITY” are mere smoke and mirrors designed to mask serious internal problems afflicting the religious order within the Catholic church.
    This is true Marxism on full display for all the world to witness and be alert for. As for Muslims and Islamism, once their total immigrant base reaches critical mass of 20% of any country’s population, Sharia Law is necessary for governing that communities citizens. So, gird-ones-loins for religious vacuum now permeating all western nations. This is what is really unfolding before our very eyes. Pray. Amen. God Bless America. Read A Bible. Post the Ten Commandments prominently.

    • Jeannette Christine Neal

      Our God is aware of their idealology , and will allow the movement to go just so far, then He will declare His sovereignty, and none will be spared who has defiled HIS holy name. Amen to our GOD.

  • KDC

    Maybe not a Leftist but certainly a socialist. We’re watching you, Mr.Pope, to see if you turn into Petras Romanus.

  • Cajun812

    Immaculate Deception: One of the latest neo-cabinet appointees of this administration. A true representative of the UN’s NWO across the globe. A voice of the collective statists calling for “holy” income redistribution.

  • savage24

    And the Devil is not evil either.

    • Gnowark

      Just Mis-Understood, also?

    • Ray Waller

      If your comment refers to the Pope following a Demonic controlled teaching…then you are close or right on!

    • don

      the greatest thing the devil ever did was to convince man his does not exist

  • MaranathaMark

    Hey Francis, if you walk like a duck; quack like a duck, most folks would say you are a duck. It is obvious he is a socialist by his own actions!

    • Pam

      You nailed it!

  • doomsdae

    By the way, another point I’d like to make; He states he follows the “doctrine” of the church, on what economic imperialism? Imperialism is and always has been “a communist word.” Besides, in the Catholic church you cannot have Dialogue with a lie, dialogue w/dissenters/modernists/socialists/leftists/liberals in the church is a waste of time because they believe in no objective truth. Liberals see dialogue as a tool to extract concessions from orthodox Catholics that will cripple their ability to fight heresy, and to distract attention from critical issues. Any conservative Catholic or who “dialogues” w/liberals & does not concede important points to them should expect to see himself & his organization ridiculed & labeled “rigid” and “obstructionist” and therefore his/her voice will be silenced or they will be removed. This pope has removed at least six good conservative Prelates and replaced them with his own liberal left ones. He has a plan and its not good. As a Catholic, I’m not looking forward to this upcoming Synod…….

    • Ray Waller

      To get the whole truth…read and study the King James Bible…the only reliable source….I am one who met the Lord Jesus in a very unexpected way in 1984 in a company I was running at the time and talked directly to him…in person…Don’t put your trust in things Denominations tell you…I almost joined the Catholic Church once,,,I’m now glad I never….There is a whole lot to this but I can’t go into that right now…good luck in your studies!

      • doomsdae

        I know the whole truth and it’s not found in the King James bible which was changed by your false god, your leader Martin Luther King who decided he was going to become God and establish his own church not to mention that he took seven books out of the bible! I was a Protestant for twenty-eight yrs. and found the fullness in the Catholic church. Christ instituted His church, the Catholic church. He did not say he was going to institute the bible, He stated He was instituting His church and St. Peter as the first pope. Christ knew that His church was not going to be perfect because it was going to be run by “sinners as well as saints.” That’s been the case in the Roman Catholic church, saints and sinners! The bible was put together by Catholic monks about the yr. 200A.D. The bible did not originate from the Protestants. If you believe that the bible alone is sufficient, you believe in a lie because Christ Himself left us w/His Catholic church which has withstood 2,000yrs. There are over 30,000 Protestant denominations because you all interpret the bible as your false leader, Martin Luther, any way that suits you. If you don’t believe something in the bible, you toss it out. We in the Catholic church have had holy Popes and yes, about half dozen corrupt popes. These corrupt popes where put in there by the corrupt kings and queens of that era, not by the church.
        To sum it up, we Catholics know that Christ’s Catholic church will go through a lot (and always has) here on earth and that as we get closer to end times, there will be a false pope. Nevertheless, we cannot and will not abandon the Catholic church and we also believe there will be a split in our church very soon. Our Catholic church as holy mystics and the mother of God prophesied that our Catholic church and its “True” members will suffer persecution. I will be prepared to die for the “Truth.” Are you??

        • Ameripat

          Well said doomsdae! No matter how they try to twist the truth, God’s truth will prevail.

          • doomsdae


        • don

          your a raving idoit—

          • doomsdae

            my, my!! Now you’re sounding more like a leftist!! When you tell a leftist the “Truth,” it hits to the Truth” and their only recourse is to call the conservative a degrading name. The Truth will “always” hit a nerve, the Truth is never pleasant, the Truth will always hurt (in your case you feel offended like all the liberals). Christ was crucified for speaking the Truth. This has not changed throughout history.

    • Sue4477

      I share your concern.

    • don

      he has changed the doctrine of the church an more

      • doomsdae

        okay since you think you know so much, how has this pope changed Doctrine? He might change it for this upcoming Synod and if he does, we conservative orthodox Catholics will make our voices heard. Our Lady at Fatima prophesied what was going to happen in the Catholic church almost a century ago (it will be one hundred yrs. in 2017). She is God’s ambassador and has been appearing all over the world warning every nation of what is coming and that they need to turn to her Son but the world just keeps going on their merry way as if nothing’s going to happen. In August of 2017, one hundred yrs. after her apparition, there is going to be a “total eclipse” of the sun. I’m not telling you this so you can believe this but to let you know that we conservative Catholics know what’s in store for humanity and no, you are not going to be “caught in the clouds or raptured” as you Protestants believe. This idiotic idea came into being only about one hundred yrs. ago by some Protestant who decided to interpret the bible (another Martin Luther) again, on his own.

  • doomsdae

    I still believe he leans left & the main reason I state this is because he’s gotten rid of about five or six good solid conservative Catholic prelates and replaced them with his liberal left leaning prelates. Remember; He comes from a Socialist country and I don’t believe he has changed in his liberal thinking. As a conservative Catholic, I still don’t trust him………….

    • don

      for a good reason

  • Ray Waller

    Jesus needed to take on the sin flesh from the

    garden of Eden. Mary was chosen because she is the descendant of Adonijah, the brother of King Solomon [sons of King David], the Father God has no mother…He is Eternal and nothing stands on the same level as the Trinity. Jesus died with the sin flesh on him…to pay our sin debt from the Garden of Eden…the ONLY way to true salvation is to pray and ask Him to be your personal savior….NOT by taking communion…which is the most dangerous thing one can do if they have not made that prayer. Jesus is the only way we can be worthy to do so….There is so much more…Study the King James Bible…now you have a good idea what it’s about…All else is Satans’ attempt to keep you confused and divert the way to true salvation.

    • KDC


    • doomsdae

      Jn 6:35-71, Mt 26:26, Mk 14:22, Luk 22:17, 1Cor 10:16, 1Cor 11:23-29, Ex12:8, 46, Jn 1:29, 1Cor 5:7, Mt.16: 5-12, 1Cor2:14-3:4, Ps 14:4,:, Is 9:18-20, Is 49:26; Mic 3:3; RV 17:6, 16

      • Ray Waller

        I know what you are trying to say..and I’ve been down that road..and with over 40 years of research I can say if you are
        not willing to drop Denominations and influences to research from scratch… then I cant help you…I didn’t want to end up where you may…What I have is concrete and proven…and yes I did meet the Lord in person in 1984…Happy hunting..Good luck…By the way…the “Rock” is the solid Words Peter spoke…Saying, “Thou art the Son of the living God”…on this phrase [ROCK] I will build my church…says the Lord. Scripture says If we confess Jesus as the Son of God and believe in our heart God raised Him up on the Third day..then we have an Eternal home with Him in Heaven….Happy Journeys!

  • Mark

    There are many false prophets mentioned in the Bible. Pope Francis is just one of many.

    • Ray Waller

      You apparently know your Bible…we can’t get too many people who are willing to work in God’s will…and God bless you….RAY!

    • don

      looks that way—sounds that way–acts that way—one things for sure it ain.t no duck

    • Sylvester Jones

      We’re speaking of the one mentioned in Revelation, take time to read it.

  • US Army Retired

    Francis is a mere man like any other except he likes wearing gowns or dress whatever that contraption is he wears. And please don’t call he holy father he is not. God the creator is the one and only Holy Father and there are no other gods before Him.

    • KDC

      “Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ. ”
      Matt 23:9-10

      • Frederick Bowers

        Those are the Words that I have read many times and the only Truth ! He is the Way the Truth and Life ! ! !

    • Jeannette Christine Neal

      Oh, yes!!!! GOD the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, 3 in 1, and there is no other. We follow 1 God, 1 faith, 1 Son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

  • susi_hauff

    A. the fact that he has to even say he’s not leftish is already suspect! And B. He is and we can see it plain as day! These comments to this article are great! Glad to see we all have our eyes open! 🙂

    • don


  • Gnowark

    I, too, believe he speaks leftish as his primary language, and am proud that I am able to discern (in my mistaken interpretation, of course) the Orwellian “Doublethink” practised [War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength, I am not leftish].

    I’ll take the Bible for my teachings, thank you Pope Francis, but do say hello to the other non-leftists like obamao, hitlery, and cuomo.

  • Alfred Moniot

    Frankie is either a sociopath or is delusional.

    retired expatriate MD: NBME; ABIM; ABNM; ABR w/spec comp NR

    • don

      frankie fits right in with our dog of a president

  • Sylvester Jones

    He’s the false prophet mentioned in Revelation and his agenda is One World Governance.

    • ShemSilber

      That very well could be, that he is the false prophet. The beast, however, seems to be the reviving Ottoman empire that is currently gaining footage in both legs of the empire, Rome and Byzantium. Already both he and his predecessor have taken the mark of the beast by kissing the Quran in the presence of Islamic indignitaries who came to the Vatican for that purpose. Of course, his aim is that the terrorists might lighten up on killing off Catholics.
      Both of those apostasies, Islam and the Catholic church, are evils that will be removed by the power of the returning Messiah Yahushua our Redeemer. HalleluYAH!

      • Sylvester Jones

        Not until billions are killed during the tribulation.

      • Sylvester Jones

        The returning Messiah, Jesus Christ. at the battle of Armageddon.

    • Joy Beum

      And perhaps that governance coming from Vatican City???

      • Sylvester Jones

        He’s not the anti-christ.

        • Joy Beum

          No, I am not calling him the anti-Christ. He is only a pope and there are others above him calling the shots.

          • Sylvester Jones

            But he is the false prophet.

          • Joy Beum

            Could be, but he certainly is not in favor of people earning their own way in this world. Socialist all the way…loves the nanny state.

    • anonymous

      I am no fan of the Catholic church but in the 50 years I have lived every Pope gets called the false prophet or the anti-christ and then he dies never having become the anti-christ. Then you guys that said he was have to quietly sneak out of the room cuz you were wrong. Same with every American or Russian president being the anti-christ. Remember Bush and Bill Clinton both were going to be the ruler of the world? Remember it was going to be Obama? Now you look like fools. There will be a false prophet but these guys must meet biblical characteristics that they don’t.

      • Sylvester Jones

        Everything on God’s schedule, the pope and the world situations are definitely end time scenarios.

      • Joy Beum

        You really are allowed to state your opinions using your real name. Don’t be afraid.

  • Liberty’s Advocate

    A ” … mistake of interpretation” my Aunt Fannie’s fanny .His pronouncements and policies fit the Marxist political environment he came from.

    • 7papa7

      I am NOT a Catholic so I personally could care less what there church does but I never thought I would hear a pope lie. I guess he is to the Catholic church as obama is to America, neither can be trusted.

      • lee

        Look at WWII were the pope of that time praised Hitler

        • Sue4477

          Can you give examples? Catholic priests were persecuted and imprisoned and died right along with the Jews. Catholics participated in helping with the hiding and underground escape routes of Jews. Catholics had to worship in secret at great risk. There was no love lost between Hitler and Catholics. The Church later officially apologized for not doing more to help Jewish people.

          • msueh

            there were some on both sides – for/against hitler. google it.

          • Sue4477

            Okay, thanks.

          • Today, in Germany and Austria, one of Hitler’s Laws is still in effect, which was inspired by the Catholic Church, but in today’s Europe, is being used by both Catholic and Protestant churches and it is with tithes. If you want to be a member of a church, they send you a bill, in the mail, telling you how much tithes you have to pay per year, depending on your salary. For most, it is actually less than the Biblical 10%, but it is just the idea that they send you a bill, and if you don’t pay, you get a notice to speak to a church official, who may lower or raise it, depending, and if you don’t pay, you get kicked out of the church. Crazy, isn’t it! I paid for years, when I first moved over here, but I give more, from my heart, than what they asked for, so I finally told them to take me off the list! I was threatened with not being allowed to be buried in a graveyard, so I told them to toss my body in the Bio Container and make fertilizer out of me, because your body is only a shell, useless after your soul no longer occupies it.

          • Sue4477

            Thank you for your information. Sad to hear.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            Sue, you are correct, but unfortunately you are also wrong. There were a number of “organizations” with-in the Catholic Church, that we very much pro Hitler, and pro-Nazi, and who carried a lot of power, and during the closing months of the war these organizations were instrumental in helping Nazis escape to various parts of the world, including South America.
            The priests that you are referring to are the ones that would not tow the “party” Nazi, and Vatican line. The same with many parishioners, however those that did do as they were told, or instructed, could worship openly.
            The Nazi Party, had a field day with “religion” in general. They used it to their advantage.

          • Sue4477

            I see. Pitiful.

        • game50

          Lee: I guess you can say that history just might repeat it self…I pray to God that it doesn’t.

        • used_to_be_a_liberal

          he wasn’t the only one, prior to the out-break of world war 2, Hitler was the darling of the world’s elite. Even in Britain he was praised. The King of England thought that Hitler had great ideas, many British politicians liked Hitler, one of his larger fans was Neville Chamberlain. Then in the U S A, there were many politicians who also thought Hitler had wonderful ideas, then too there was Joe Kennedy, Patrick Bush, The Rothschild’s, the Rockefellers, and Henry Ford, who received a medal directly from Hitler, for bringing the assembly line to Germany. The Nazi Party was popular in the U S, there were rallies, and even Madison Square Gardens was filled to capacity, and there is more.

          • Sue4477

            Very sad to hear.

          • Nita1931

            Well, at that time America and even England didn’t recognize what Hitler was up to and British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, along with France and Italy, permitted Nazi Germany’s annexation of portions of
            Czechoslovakia. Thankfully Britain’s Winston Churchill came to the rescue and the rest is history.

          • Sue4477

            Thank you. Yes, I assumed most agreement with Hitler was early on before people realized his true intentions.

      • Sue4477

        As a Catholic, it seems like your statement might be true. I can’t understand where this Pope is coming from or why he says the things he does. He’s certainly very different than prior Popes.

        • don

          he just shows his colors more

        • 7papa7

          You have had some good Popes like John Paul II. This man is not good for the Catholic church. I have heard different priests pretty uncomfortable trying to support him on some of what he has said. IMHO if there is a way they should remove him.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            Other popes through-out history have been removed, just search out papal assassinations, death is the only way out.

      • Discus

        Neither can be trusted concerning the politics of men. Neither the Pope or obama trust or understand capitalism in the USA, our Constitutional Rights were given to us by God and we should be a nation of Laws.

        • Bonnie68


          Our Constitutional Rights were given to us by GOD!

          Our Constitutional Rights were given to us by MEN! Under the guise of religions and twisted to the whims of whichever Supreme Court was in power when the laws were challenged.

          That is how we live. God is so far away from our laws now after we allow one family of atheist to ruin the faithful in this country.

          • Liberty’s Advocate

            I don’t know where to begin. You talk about twisted logic and shortsighted views of history? Lady, you take the cake! They are only superseded by your cynicism.

            In a round-a-bout way, you stumbled onto the key concept but apparently lack the understanding that intellectual awareness brings to the argument.

            Read the first two paragraphs of the Declaration. Try to understand that the Natural Law argument set forth by Jefferson, Franklin and Adams was not an ORIGINAL thought. Rather, philosophers Cicero (Roman) and Aristotle (Greek) was proposed before Christ was born, and St. Thomas Aquinas perfected in his enlightened treatise “SUMMA THEOLOGICA” – the merger of philosophy with theology.

            It is our NATURAL LAW rights (otherwise known as HUMAN Rights) which are gifts from the Creator. The PRIMARY rights (listed in the Declaration: ” … among these are Life. Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness”) are Constitutional only insofar as they can be shown to be the root or basis for those rights listed in the Constitution.

            The problem you assert was caused by .

          • Bonnie68

            That is exactly what I said, and you a person didn’t understand WHAT I said.

            Man ruined the Laws of God. Because MAN decides what it means (Supreme Court). And the two doesn’t always agree, like when the one family of atheist destroyed our country with their non-belief in GOD. That is what you missed in my statement. Man destroyed our country which was based on God.

            Now we have to base our principals on everybody and not exclude anybody.

            Now we have religious freedom, but we don’t have religious freedom in some things. IT IS MAN’s law, not God’s law.

            That is what my statement said. God is so far from our laws, since one family of atheist made us change the way we wrote our laws.

            That is what I wrote. That is a fact.

          • Liberty’s Advocate

            You must be self-deluded if you think you can explain away your duplicitous rhetoric with some hollow insistence that MY correction was ” … exactly what (you) said … “. Apparently you think your inability to properly convey your thoughts and meaning is MY fault.

            Look at the first two sentences in the text of the offering directed at Discus with which I took issue. The second says exactly the opposite of the first. Your followup in that paragraph is an incomplete sentence/thought leaving the reader wondering where it was you were going WITH that thought. If your vocal inflections would have made it clear … WE CAN’T HEAR YOU! That is the purpose of sentence structure and punctuation in the written word.

            Madeline Murray O’Hare’s family isn’t who ” … destroyed our country with their non-belief in GOD.” She gave it a push, but weak-kneed Christians (including pastoral leadership) who had already been cowed into inaction by IRS regulations banning political advocacy from the pulpit to maintain a tax-free status, acquiesced to the pressures instead of asserting the innate TOLERANCE required on both sides of issues which is the mortar holding our system of rights and liberties together. NO individual’s rights are more important than those of any other individual. Subjugation of those rights to the collective rights of society is just one example of where Communist/Socialist/Collectivist ideas and methods are antithetical to freedom and tend to undermine it.

            Government doesn’t do anything by accident, but instead uses a tinker’s hammer to gradually chip away at the wall separating government power over the people from the people’s freedom and liberty. When those dark intentions are exacerbated by government control of education of the people, historical perspective is the first thing to suffer. The “Why?” questions never get answered because the original reasons that brought balance to the relationship of Man to government was forgotten. Over time, Liberty loses its advocates.

            Sound bite mentality isn’t compatible with in-depth discussions either. We DO have similar viewpoints but arguments ensue when those soundbites and incomplete thoughts appear to wander off the path of reason.

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    • Cajun812

      Exactly Advocate! He is the product of his upbringing in Peronist Argentina. Another “community activist” pushing for collective labor (the fundamental base of socialism/communism).

    • Bonnie68

      Well of course the Pope is not going to support any political party that is going to believe that a trickle down economy is going to work when they have been told and shown for 40 years that it does not work.

      So for all of these years they have seen the rich get richer, the businesses get higher profits the lower classes get poorer and they do NOTHING to stop the bleeding.

      They continue to give more tax breaks for the wealthy so they pay NO taxes. They continue to supply the businesses through subsidies in the trillions of dollars every year and these companies are having RECORD PROFITS never seen before and they pay 0 dollars in taxes because WE TAXPAYERS are paying their taxes in subsidies. But the republicans continue to pay these huge subsidies. WHY???????

      And the middle class keeps shrinking!!! Because the class below us gets the tax breaks and collect all the extra money they didn’t pay in, or earn. They are getting $8, $10, $12 thousand dollars in tax dollars because they didn’t make enough money, while the middle class is paying out our a$$es in taxes. Doesn’t anyone want to give us a BREAK?

      • lighteredknot

        Bonnie: Do you know what a conundrum is?Love the quote from Plato.

        Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free. (Think this one over and over…makes sense!)

        The definition of the word Conundrum is:
        something that is puzzling or confusing.

        Here are six Conundrums of socialism in the United States of America:
        1. America is capitalist and greedy – yet half of the population is subsidized.

        2. Half of the population is subsidized – yet they think they are victims.

        3. They think they are victims – yet their representatives run the government.

        4. Their representatives run the government – yet the poor keep getting poorer.

        5. The poor keep getting poorer – yet they have things that people in other countries only dream about.

        6. They have things that people in other countries only dream about – yet they want America to be more like those other countries.

        Think about it! And that, my friends, pretty much sums up the USA in the 21st Century. Makes you wonder who is doing the math.

        These three, short sentences tell you a lot about the direction of our current government and cultural environment:

        1. We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.

        Funny how that works. And here’s another one worth considering…

        2. Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money.
        But we never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money !
        What’s interesting is the first group “worked for” their money, but the second didn’t.

        Think about it…..and Last but not least :

        3. Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans, no pay raises for our military and cutting our army to a level lower than before WWII, but we are not stopping the payments or benefits to illegal aliens.

        Am I the only one missing something?

        “If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools.” – Plato

        • Jean Witte

          This is good…you are so right!

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