Putin Warns Trump: Vows To Shoot Down All ‘Flying Objects’ Over Syria

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June 19, 2017

syria-jet-march-2017Russia has said it will treat US warplanes operating in parts of Syria where its air forces are present as “targets” amid a diplomatic row caused by the downing of a Syrian jet.

The country’s defence ministry said the change in position would apply to all aircraft, including those operating as part of the US-backed coalition.

It will also suspend a hotline between Russia and the US set up to prevent mid-air collisions.

The ministry said in a statement: “All kinds of airborne vehicles, including aircraft and UAVs of the international coalition detected to the west of the Euphrates River will be tracked by the Russian SAM systems as air targets.”

86 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • cama9 says:

    Does no one on this board know that the US shot down a Syrian fighter jet that was attacking ISIS? There were no Syrian Democratic Forces – the terrorists backed by the US – in the area. This is confirmed by the Syrian Observatory on Human Rights, the agency the US and British intel uses. Look it up. The Syrian army had taken Jadin, announced their success, flew a fighter jet to target fleeing ISIS members and an hour later the US shoots down the plane.
    It is obvious the US is protecting ISIS, just like how it armed them.
    I find the ignorance on this board shocking.
    Americans should not be fighting wars for Israel or Saudi Arabia. Why should our blood be spilled for them?
    If you truly loved and supported our troops you wouldn’t want them dying for any country but America.

  • Roy Fredrichsen says:

    Putin had to say that because he wants Assad to think he will protect him until Putin get tired of lying about Assad.

  • Pete says:

    The US Secretary of Defense is one of the most effective military leaders of this century & we are supposed to believe that Russia (with about 1/5 the size military & 1/20 the economy) is not just blowing smoke. General/Secretary Mattis has the Syrian dictator between a rock and a hard place & Russia can’t do much of anything about it but make noise.
    If The Russians get too pushy, Trump & the Saudi (the two nations with the worlds largest oil reserves) will drop the crude price and send Russia into economic collapse. Putin may not be a nice guy, but he isn’t stupid, he WILL play nice.

  • Jmanjo says:

    He should get back on his horse and give us a shot!

  • Jean Langford M. says:

    Guess we are at war with Russia…So be it…What’s next nukes???…Let’s obliterate Iran as well as Russia and China while we are at it…
    Not mention a host of Muslim countries too….Watch to see if they start shooting Satellites…They are military command and control…When that happens..Bend over and kiss your ass goodbye…Because the nukes are on their way…

  • Nam1 says:

    If Putin thinks Trump will cower to bluffs, he’s met his match… He’s not Obama.

  • Oldawg70 says:

    Each opponent circling, jabbing, feinting then throwing an occasional punch…all the while closing the distance, getting ready to attack! Not one of the participants has blinked since DJT took office! There will be blood…and soon from all the indicators I perceive! There are several rabid/mad dogs and DJT the Pitbull…kind of like the “Perfect Storm” brewing!

  • Quarks says:

    Trump needs to call in obama to resolve the issue…maybe a line in the air will help…

    1. deeter duu says:

      Can’t you just see it, now?
      0’bozo tooling around up there in an old bi-plane, big bag of choom between his knees, like a chimney huffin’ and puffin’ a blue streak across the sky, trying to make his smoke rings spell out his favorite tune:
      “I, I, I,
      Me, Me, Me,
      My, My, My.
      Don’t cross My line,
      ‘cuz then I’ll cry.”

  • tryscavage says:

    Personally I would handle this situation like President Obama – wet my pants, lock myself in a closet in the White House bedroom (demanding that they put a TV and lots of tissue paper), and demand one of his 3487 lookalikes walk around in public.

  • Karll says:

    Putin’s willing to risk some pawns for strategic advantage.
    He would blink if it came to an actual nuke war.

  • CCblogging says:

    The Globalist Deep State aka The Shadow Government wants a war with Russia. The DS controlled Democrats have set an angry tone here with their fake Russian investigation and now this happens. If the chicken hawks think taking on Russia will be a cakewalk, they are delusional. We will get a bloody nose or worse and for what? So our “good” terrorists can beat their “bad” terrorists? There is also a possibility of a false flag operation here to turn the Syrian conflict up a few notches. . The Military/Industrial Complex is very much a part of the Deep State and their bombs, bullets and missiles cost us plenty in taxes but the Globalist Elites are doing fine.

  • Richard Bagenstose says:

    maybe you can get oboma to give putin another b/j and get him to relax

  • Luke says:

    I would explain to pootin the same goes for his aircraft..

  • DrBillLemoine says:

    This is like one bully threatening another–it’s simply fierce bluster. This part of the ‘announcement’ isn’t new–‘It will also suspend’ the Russian-USA telephone line aligning aircraft. So the article isn’t up to date on background, OR it’s faux news from Russia, so prevalent since the campaign last year. Take your pick. We have over the horizon capabilities and will certainly shoot down any air attack on coalition aircraft. Ground to air capabilities are more static and thus in jeopardy when identified by blastoffs of missiles. No problem there. Are we raising false fears here by promoting Russian bluster?

    1. Retired says:

      This is no different than Tying Trump to Russia while the Clintons did the same thing , lopsided media .

      1. DrBillLemoine says:

        Not comparable. President v. SecState; business history v. one campaign denying voter suppression; non-constitutional vs. supporting democratic rights; entire Russian apparatus/hierarchy involved with campaigners v. statements by one high USA official. You aren’t digging into the circumstances and facts of cases–as I’ve told you before. Too superficial and a whitewash job by you v. smearing an operating official in office.

        1. Retired says:

          You are right I don’t believe the lies from Soros – Clinton and Schumer . Hillary’s campaign people met with the Russians and there is proof of that while Trumps meeting is BS . You are one of the Democrat Racist against Trump . By you Demo Rats walk on water and everyone else is trash .

          1. DrBillLemoine says:

            What? Where did you get Soros from here? What’s the thinking on ‘Racist’? Non sequiturs.
            There’s only faux news of Hillary meeting Russians. Actually the fact is Putin hates Hillary, no meeting possible. Hacking is the contact you mistake for campaign meetings with Ruskies that never happened.
            Only Christ walked on water; but ask Trump and you’ll get an earful of ‘wonder’ and ‘magnificence’ like that.

          2. Retired says:

            Dr.Bull —- You missed it in your liberal rags that Hillary’s campaign people met with the Russians , Soros and Schumer is a communist and the Clintons are no better. You display a hate for Trump like a typical RACIST.

          3. DrBillLemoine says:

            I like Michael Weatherly but I’m not Dr. Bull. Why are you still trying to equate Russian collusion by Trump and company with out-of-office by then Hillary? It’s a mystery. Soros is a donor; no mystery about contacts there. Shumer is clearly Democratic leader and a progressive holding the line on regressive Repubs. Again your thinking is a mystery calling anybody not Republican a commie, when all the ether today is about Republicans, masses of them, affiliating with commies. Hard to argue you righties aren’t commie sympathizers–at best. At worst, communist operatives and ‘useful fools’. Race has nothing to do with it–all are Caucasians, another mystery from your so-called brain.

          4. Retired says:

            Mr.Bull —- Are you brain dead about Clintons campaign people meeting with the Russians ??? Soros and Schumer’s family came from the Ghetto because no other country wanted them and now traitors to us .The Demon Rats have turned into commies supporting Chinas Communism which is worse than the Russian version today . Your hate for Trump is as bad as a racist , you don’t have to be Black or White to be a racist . The TRUTH hurts doesn’t it Mr. Bullshitsky ??? Strange so many do not agree with you ????

          5. DrBillLemoine says:

            Read carefully and understand. Russians hacked the election. Trump associates are and were infamous for their contacts with Russia. Ergo all intelligence agencies and FBI are investigating who? Trump. Your Hillary stuff is nonsense, a distraction for simple minds. Soros and Schumer are not involved, another distraction. Wake up.
            With that background anybody can see who the commies and sympathizers are, but not you. China–another distraction.
            Again, racism is not involved, ANOTHER distraction for the simple minded. Those are truths, not your feeble side trips. Thank God the Intel agencies are not so distracted and will ferret out the rest of the truth leading to Trump impeachment and jail for the rest. Ever hear of Watergate? This is worse involving an enemy and treason.

          6. Retired says:

            Bullshitsky , you are lost in space .

          7. ezekiel22 says:

            Since you wrote this even Jeh Johnson has said that this “investigation” is a big “nothing burger”. Of course I am more disturbed by all of the side violations of laws that have come up. You should be too but then again your bias comes to play.
            Are you up to equal persecution under the law? I would say prosecution but that would mean people other than Trump would have to go to prison. You are not up to that.

          8. DrBillLemoine says:

            Instead of guessing at MY aims, we could hear about yours and keep a conversation going. What ‘side violations’, which people, what biases, what persecutions are you thinking of? We have nothing to discuss here with your approach of hiding feelings.

          9. Retired says:

            Dr.Bull —– are you related to Obama – Soros – Clintons or Schumer that you believe their lies .

  • Askjrsk says:

    Well if that DOSENT call for a line in the sand, what does? Maybe DJT should call in OBAMA on how to teach them a lesson. How does that go? A trillion dollars and uranium. That’s a Hillary OBAMA line in the sand. May be in the legacy somewhere filed under coward bath house community organizer response that pleases George Schwartz Soros.

    1. itsfun says:

      Obama could show President Trump how to draw red lines, then run like hell.

      1. Askjrsk says:

        With his head up his behind? Then bow kiss such suck?? Stutter stutter. Then make himself a medal to pin himself with–and nobody came, leaving OBAMA consternated–again

        1. I Seigel says:

          Look who’s doing the running now! The Pentagon just announced that they’re “repositioning” aircraft to avoid conflicts. Nice. Talk big, but slink away in fear.

          1. Askjrsk says:

            Your point is you’re ready to fight WW3 ? You have your finger like Hillary on the red plastic button and ready to have someone else fight your battles for you, while you sit in your rocking chair collecting welfare? Talk big, there slinker

          2. Askjrsk says:

            You!!!

  • Peter Pihun says:

    Putin is a jackass. Continue air strikes when necessary. Bomb the SOB too!

    1. Askjrsk says:

      Bomb the OBAMA line in the sand?

      1. Retired says:

        They ought to ship him to Syria instead of bombing his line in the sand .

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  • rewindpulaski says:

    Putin is just full of bluster and not much else… Our pilots are the finest in the world and there should be no doubt who wins the head to head if and when air action is warranted.. Trump is doing exactly the right thing here.. Ignoring Putin

    1. elmcqueen3 says:

      Don’t over estimate your claims…Russia has fighter air craft that is just as good if not better than some of our own…As for Russian pilots I wouldn’t under estimate any of them either…We need proceed with cation with our flights over Syria least we find ourselves engaged in WW3…not forgetting we and the Russians possess nuclear weapons that are a hundred more times powerful than the “fat” boy we dropped on Hiroshima…One of these nuclear bombs could destroy the city of New York completely…Do we want to go that far?

      1. gjdagis says:

        Yes, a true friend attacks us like they attacked the US Liberty! They are only in it for themselves; they can pay their OWN way! Virtually 100% of the entire world is against them except for us. There is obviously a REASON for that! And I am just about the furthest a person can be from the left just for the record!

        http://www.businessinsider.com/45-years-ago-this-week-israel-attacked-a-us-navy-ship-and-killed-dozens-of-sailors-survivors-want-to-know-why-2012-6

        1. rewindpulaski says:

          anti-Semite often? Don’t be afraid (or too proud) to admit that the one and only country in the Middle East that we should be supporting fully is Israel… The only democratic government in the region.. AND what’s this?! You’re bringing up an event that occurred 50 years ago?! Israel apologized for it and stated that they had mistakenly identified the ship as an Egyptian cargo ship… Not too hard to imagine that such a mistake could be made since the Liberty sailed into Egyptian waters during the six-day war.. and BTW; why in hell would Israel intentionally attack a US ship?! Intentionally attack one of their only ally’s ship?! That’s crazy on its face.. If we go further with your argument, I guess we should be still fighting a war against Germany or Japan, eh? After all, the war with them ended only 72 years ago and they sank a lot of our ships.. I for one would like to know why you have such hostility toward Israel..

          1. gjdagis says:

            You are making no sense whatsoever. Hostility toward Israel? Anti-Semite? Are you a leftist? I am for getting out of the Mideast PERIOD! All military out. All aid of ANY kind suspended to ALL countries in that region of the world. I was just responding to the insane proposition that we should CONTINUE to be involved there by supporting Israel. You can’t buy friends so they wouldn’t mind at all if we divested from the area in that case since they are such good friends and we wouldn’t be supporting anyone ELSE in that area either!

          2. rewindpulaski says:

            Let me see.. Who just said; “they attacked the US Liberty!” “They are only in it for themselves; they can pay their OWN way!” “Virtually 100% of the entire world is against them except for us”. “There is obviously a REASON for that!” Forgive me; but you can see where someone could take such statements as being “a bit” anti-Semitic and hostile, can’t you? Those statements sure sound like they could come from someone who simply doesn’t like Israel (and maybe “Jews”?).. Support of Israel IS NOT “buying of friends”.. Again; it is our support of the only democracy in the Middle East and if we didn’t support that democracy, the rest of the middle east may very well have already had their wish and desire to “push the Jews into the sea and destroy the nation of Israel”.. You want that? Destruction of the only democratic nation in the middle east? Destruction of those who time and time again have prevented the crazies from destroying the whole region. If you can remember the Liberty; surely you can remember Israel destroying Iran’s capability of making a nuclear weapon a couple of decades ago (the first time around) can’t you? They bombed the holy H__ out of Iran’s 1st generation weapons grade nuclear material enrichment facilities disguised as “power plants”.. They may have to do it again.. AND BTW; if you have bothered to read any of my past postings you would be very hard pressed to ever confuse me with a Leftist Liberal.. Parish the thought my friend; parish the thought…

          3. gjdagis says:

            We CANNOT get OUT of that region unless we get out completely. That means no fighting ISIS (leave it to the people there and whoever is stupid enough to be involved there), no SAUDI ARABIA, no ANYBODY! We have been bogged down there in one way or another for about 70 years, maybe more, depending n how you look at it. Enough is enough.

          4. rewindpulaski says:

            I’m going to end this verbal tennis match now.. I leave you with this.. If we were to do as you propose, and immediately and completely pull everything we have in the region or any support we have pertaining to the region – $$$, “Iron Domes”, weapons, aid, UN support, EVERYTHING – the nation Israel will not survive as an independent and sovereign nation by the year 2030.. No doubt about it..

      2. rewindpulaski says:

        Here’s something we have in play here with the Russians (the former Soviet Union) and with Putin.. Deterrence and the theory of (the assurance of) mutual destruction.. It has been in play between the Russians and the US since the 50’s.. AND it has worked quite well and it will continue to… It comes down to this.. No one wins in a nuclear exchange.. Everyone loses.. and, despite what others may have told you, you and I and everyone else have had this particular Sword of Damocles hanging over us going on 70 years now.. Now; with “fat-boy” and NK, this “deterrence policy” may not work so well.. that’s why the child should be no where near nukes and why we’ll need to dispatch (send out) a few of our own conventional weapons against NK sooner rather than later.. Maybe Rodman will turn out to be the great negotiator and talk “fat-boy” out of his craziness, eh? I’m not counting on that.. Iran? won’t work at all w/ those folks because once they get a nuke warhead on a missile they’ll use it.. BTW; thanks Obama and Kerry – for nothing.. Solution – don’t allow them to have either a warhead or a missile.. 2 or 3 (maybe 4) MOABs should do the trick.. AND finally, I stand-by my previous “boast”.. Our pilots (and our weapons) are second to none and whether the opponent is Russian or “someone else” we’ll win and they will lose… No overestimation on my part; just fact…

      3. Peter Smith says:

        Better than the F-22 Raptor? I think not. The F-15 Eagle has been retired, do you happen to know the aircraft’s record as far as being beaten in head to head combat? I do, you should research before you type. And I believe US pilots are head and shoulders above any other country. I’m willing no to bet my life on it.
        Nuclear weapons, any nuke is lethal, the delivery system is the key. Ours are better.

        1. elmcqueen3 says:

          The video I saw showed their latest fighter aircraft and I was amazed at what it can do…How many of these fighter planes do they have I do not know…they could be experimental…I don’t remember…I’m not into fighter jets…that was several years ago when I saw the video…they probably have more of these fighter aircraft today…Awesome fighter jets…maybe we’ll get to see how good they really are or are not…if push comes to shove over the skies of Syria.

          1. Peter Smith says:

            It’s a possibility for sure. You sound like you’re on the fence over which side to support.

          2. elmcqueen3 says:

            It’s not so much who I support…it’s as if “do we really want to go there”…things are bad enough over there…we don’t need a war with Russia which will effect not only the mid east but Europe and every other country as well…We have been doing a good job of screwing up everything we touch when it comes to war…Not having forgotten the Korean and Vietnamese conflicts where we won the battles but lost the wars…A war with Russia will not end well for anybody…friend or foe alike.

          3. Peter Smith says:

            Who you support has a lot to do with it. Russia is just as leary of a conflict with America as anybody else is.
            While we may not want to “go there”, sometimes there is no other viable option. Is this one of those times, I don’t know. We’ll find out one way or the other. I trust our President and his administration, I trust our military, I trust our great nation to do what is necessary when it is necessary.

        2. Roy Fredrichsen says:

          Years ago the Russians copied our B-29s and the copies just were not the same. Their jet fighters are some of the crudest planes i have seen. They ballyhoo about how good they are. So we will soon see if they live up to the Russian bragging points.

          1. Peter Smith says:

            They crude up to a point. The Mig-25 Foxbat almost looks “unfinished” as you scan nose to tail. But it shocked the US military into action. The performance numbers were staggering. We “one upped” them with the F-15 Eagle, arguably the finest fighter of it’s time and quite possibly of all time.
            I believe if the pissing match indeed starts, the Russians will learn a very hard lesson.
            PS I’d really like to year more about this new Chinese offering of air superiority fighters. I think they refer to it as the J-20, I’ll have to confirm.

    2. Askjrsk says:

      Ecellent

    3. I Seigel says:

      Nope. Trump isn’t doing any such thing. The Pentagon is moving its aircraft to avoid conflicts.

      1. rewindpulaski says:

        if you’ve heard of any such contact between Trump and Putin, please enlighten us.. so far (as of this morning) no communications between the two has not yet been presented to the public (maybe via “the red phone”?).. BTW; just noticed that a US fighter just shot down an Iranian drone that was flying in the area… Doesn’t appear that “the Pentagon” has moved any aircraft, does it? at least it appears that they haven’t moved them very far…

        1. I Seigel says:

          http://www.businessinsider.com/us-repositioning-aircraft-syria-2017-6

          There are several independent sources for the story. I chose just one.

          And I didn’t say anything about contact between Putin and Trump. I said that the Pentagon was moving aircraft.

          1. rewindpulaski says:

            I believe I said that Trump is doing the right thing by ignoring Putin and you responded “Trump isn’t doing any such thing”.. That’s the “contact” element you alluded to.. I also said the Pentagon apparently isn’t moving our aircraft “very far” since our aircraft just shot an Iranian drone out of the sky.. BTW; just to twist your tail a little more; if one of those Russian fools flies too close to one of our carriers or makes an attempt to do a low level “fly-by” of one of our carriers or the task force; that fool will be shot out of sky by one of our Phalanx systems quicker than he can say YPA! AND Putin will do nothing and probably say nothing.. He’s full of bluster and little else (except bovine scat)

          2. I Seigel says:

            I don’t know if Putin is full of bluster or not, but you, on the other hand, seem to be, for somebody that’s not in a cockpit or command chair. Let’s see how this plays out, shall we, and enough of the big talk and meaningless threats – they’re for armchair warriors, not the real players.

          3. rewindpulaski says:

            Just responding to those other anti-Trump “blame him for anything” armchair warriors out there.. Let’s be clear here.. I (like many others) believe that Putin is a murderous thug (being the ex-KGB guy that he is) and whenever he (or his advisors) start to threaten “this and that”, we would be wise to listen… BUT, that said, for anyone to imply that our nation will or has responded in some sort of cowardly fashion to whatever Putin says or does, is just more anti-US defeatism.. Hey; I’m all for “the real players” conducting the big talk and making the threats, but, believe me, I will not allow the anti-democratic republic anti-Trump types to say or imply that we are in any way “cowards”… That “cowardly sort of action” was displayed by our last president and administration and will not be displayed by the current president and administration.. BTW; I’ve actually been in that “command chair” and voices speaking “anti” doesn’t help as decisions are made..

  • gjdagis says:

    Why don’t we just get OUT of the Mideast; we have no business there. The people don’t even like our form of government. Every single time we get involved there is trouble; we have failed every time to accomplish anything at all of true value. Let’s pull out all of our military and cut off all aid, military and otherwise to ALL countries in the region including Israel. We don’t need to buy true friends!

    1. rewindpulaski says:

      We are there to protect in any way we can Israel.. That has been our priority one reason for being in the Middle East for the last 67 years.. I can see why you believe that we “fail every time”.. That’s just MSM and Leftist propaganda talking and if you actually study Israel and our support of them, you’ll find our successes outweigh our failures by a large margin.. We not “buying true friends”… We are supporting the only true democracy in the region… It’s too bad your instructors and teachers didn’t teach you that…

      1. Askjrsk says:

        Shepard Smith, reporting. His poor mother must be so embarrassed. She would never let him out of the house the way he goes in front of a video camera. Poor dear old lady. Maybe she should get together with Cathy Lee Griffins mother and console one another.

        1. rewindpulaski says:

          I don’t see what any of this discussion has to do with Shep, Shep’s Mother, Kathy Griffin, or Kathy’s Mother but instead (you may have missed it) it has everything to do with why we’re in the Middle East and Israel.. Why are you so “off topic”?

          1. Askjrsk says:

            Because of reporting , fake news as I listen to Shep. The tie in is what and how he’s reporting, which it isn’t its editorializing. Sorry you don’t approve My suggestion if you don’t like my comment is don’t read, don’t respond . Thankyou.

          2. rewindpulaski says:

            It is not whether I “approve” or “don’t approve”, you just had me confused, that’s all.. Sorry that you took it as a criticism.. As far as Shep goes? Fox would be wise to fire the azzhat.. He’s a fox in the hen house if there ever was one… and let me take this opportunity to clear up this “fake news” business.. It isn’t “fake news”.. Let’s call it what it is, eh?.. It’s “MSM manufactured cr@p” that is Orwellian “black-white” speak (and it is propaganda on par w/ that presented by Joseph Goebbels in 1930’s and 1940’s Germany).. It is specifically designed to make a truth a lie and a lie truth.. It is designed to obfuscate truth.. R leftist (almost Pravda-like) press and MSM have been developing and refining obfuscation of the truth since the 80’s…

          3. Askjrsk says:

            Thanks for your reply. Glad we could converse. You are absolutely spot on.?You pointed out I want clear in my comment, going from point to my opinion of the propaganda. I agree with you wholeheartedly !!!

  • Tutu says:

    We cannot let Our allies to be bombed. It is a serious show down. We must not let it deter our efforts to protect our troops.

    1. Askjrsk says:

      Absolutely.

    2. Vassiliki says:

      These supposed “allies” are trying to overthrow the government of Syria. Assad has every right to defend his country and his people. How many of these rebels or FSA are truly Syrians? Most of them are not even Syrians. They were hired to destroy another westernized muslim country and to make it a radicalized. Have you noticed all the countries that have been attacked were westernized? Iraq, Egypt, Syria secular governments to be overthrown by radicals- why should we allow that? Why should we be involved? If you believe all the propaganda of the Arab Springs I suggest you do further research and find out the truth behind them.

  • BradleyHill says:

    Sounds like War Talk to me.

    Guess Putin knows where all our nuclear submarines are located. NOT!

    1. elmcqueen3 says:

      Putin knows the whereabouts of our submarines same as we know the whereabouts of his.

      1. Askjrsk says:

        No brainer. Does Hillary know where our uranium is?

        1. rewindpulaski says:

          Hillary doesn’t know.. All she knows is that she had direct contact w/ representatives of Russia and their Uranium mining interests and that she and her hubby Bill “helped” Russia in the obtaining of 1/5th of our Uranium reserves.. all to the tune of some 50 million given to the Clinton Foundation by the Russians and a doubling of Bill’s speaking fees.. Hey Leftist Party! You want to investigate something? Investigate THAT!

          1. Askjrsk says:

            My point exactly. We will all find out where Hillary’s uranium sales to Russia made into nuclear warheads. Russians in time will send that uranium back to us. I’m sure we all want to see that investigated, charged and sentenced for treason espionage and
            sedition . Hanging or electric chair are an appropriate resolution. CLINTONS assets should be seized and put in general budget.

          2. rewindpulaski says:

            agreed.. their assets should be seized and placed into the general budget.. hanging or electric chair? Shoot! I’d settle at this point for giving them both twenty in a federal prison w/ living conditions on par w/ that given to Martha Stewart.. Bill wouldn’t last 5 years.. Hill wouldn’t last 10…

          3. gvette says:

            LOL..if they plugged Killary into a high voltage chair, she’d light up like never before!

          4. Askjrsk says:

            I know they wear us down don’t they? They must be held accountable, however

          5. rewindpulaski says:

            Agreed – they must be held accountable; however, go for something “achievable” (20 years each in prison) rather than something “unachievable” (hanging or the electric chair).. their “treasonous act,” while atrocious, is not considered to be a “hanging offense” – – – and it shouldn’t be..

          6. Askjrsk says:

            I’m sure the Ethel Rosenberg family wishes you could have been their advocate back in the day. Unfortunately any punishment, if at all, is out of both of our hands. I would love to see thesevtreadonous acts prosecuted with punishment under the full extent of the law.

      2. Retired says:

        The cat and mouse game has never stopped nor will it In the near future China will have more subs and surface ships than Russia.

    2. Retired says:

      Putin’s Military does not have the horse power to do anything against the US , that is why he sides with China and Iran

      1. Tiberius Gracchus says:

        You are either delusional or simply oblivious. I’m going to assume that with a moniker like “Retired” you might actually remember the Cuban missile crisis in ’62, and recall yourself wondering if you’d be alive the next day. U.S. and Russia alone each have 1,800 nuclear missiles on alert at any particular time…that’s enough “horsepower” to end all human civilization and probably 80% of the rest of the species on the planet from the years-long dust cloud alone. MAD worked over the course of the Cold War as long as U.S. and Russia did not engage in direct smaller conventional conflicts that could escalate to the apocalyptic stage (outside of proxy wars, where one or the other was supporting third-party players, e.g., U.S. backing mujahideen in Afghanistan in the ’80’s, Russia supporting North Vietnam in the ’50s-’70s). Reckless machismo untethered from calculated, pragmatic deliberation is a recipe for annihilation at this level. Putin is already feeling very insecure after the nationwide demonstrations across Russia the last week or two, so he’s looking for a distraction to feed the Russian people, and what better way to drum up nationalistic fervor than a war? If Russian or American nationals end up getting killed, things will escalate very dangerously very quickly, and Putin has no qualms losing a few of his own people to stay in power. Be careful what you wish for.

        1. Retired says:

          I am well aware of the past history . Everyone is on the band wagon against Russia while China silently takes over .How much land and our Industry does Russia own, now look at what China owns in the US and EU . Keep on sleeping is all I can say .

          1. Tiberius Gracchus says:

            There is no doubt about that. China’s been playing this game for 4,000 years. They’re playing chess, we’re playing checkers. The Chinese have always played the long game (and why not? With a history that long, it’s like the Farmer’s commercial: we know a thing or two ’cause we’ve seen a thing or two”…and they have 4,000 years of experience in the frailties of human nature and its political machinations. Deng Xiaoping was an exemplar of that long view. He set China back on the course of regaining its place as a world power after more than 100 years of virtual Western colonialism, simply by luring Western capital investment hungry for the huge China market while at the same time soaking up (or stealing) its intellectual property and still strictly controlling market access (retaining Chinese control of Western subsidiaries). Our universities have trained thousands of Chinese engineers and scientists. And over the time since Nixon opened up China, it has been a Pandora’s Box: they leveraged their huge productive capacity with currency controls to take over American and European markets wholesale, starting with steel and building out to every sector of consumer goods, utterly disrupting whole industries and economic sectors, all because we…we….will always go for a cheaper price. Now all that cash is going to support their military buildup. This is roughly equivalent to the massive investment by Anglo-American banks into the German economy in the early days of Hitler, before they realized he was directing it to building his war machine. How do we shoot ourselves in the foot time after time? Follow the money. Markets are the heroin of capitalism, and once one market is saturated, the drive is on to find new ones to keep the cash flow coming. China was the crack cocaine for multinationals, and we have now handed them the keys to the kingdom, lock, stock and barrel.

    3. DrBillLemoine says:

      After the last North Korean launch, Trump announced the whereabouts of our submarines, so Russians certainly also know. What a jerk!!!

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