Senate blocks gun measures offered in wake of Orlando shooting

by Donovan Slack  |  published on June 21, 2016

The Senate as expected on Monday rejected four partisan gun measures offered in the wake of the Orlando massacre, including proposals to keep guns out of the hands of people on terror watch lists.

Two Republican proposals would have increased funding for the national background check system and created a judicial review process to keep a person on a terror watch list from buying a gun; two Democratic measures would have expanded background checks to private gun sales and allowed the Justice Department to ban gun sales to suspected terrorists.

The Senate voted down similar bills in December after the shooting rampage in San Bernardino, Calif. With the current party split in the Senate, any successful bid to toughen gun laws would need bipartisan support to get to the 60-vote threshold required. There are 54 Republicans and 46 Democrats and Independents who caucus with them.

Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., suggested Democrats are simply using the issue as a political talking point and said the two GOP measures sponsored by Sens. John Cornyn, R-Texas, and Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, are “real solutions.”

  • IronPhoenix

    Islam is a CULT, not a religion. The sooner everyone figures this out, the sooner it can lose 1A protection and be treated as other wackos.

    “Vetted” Refugees? Don’t make me laugh. http://conservativetribune.com/12-refugees-vetted-but-obama/

    Please visit https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-cease-relocating-syrian-refugees-united-states-due-terrorist-and-isis-ability-infiltrate-us

    If a refugee is a child or a woman, and is a CHRISTIAN (aren’t they the ones that need help most??), I consider them welcome. Muslim? NO. Muslim male of fighting age? HELL NO. Muslim already in the US? Forswear jihad and Shariah or LEAVE.

    By the way, this isn’t an “anti-them” attitude. It’s a “pro-us” attitude. Isn’t that the primary job of the federal government? Protect the USA. Not others.

    A piece of data that these “refugees” should know. Well, two, really. 1 – a truly legitimate refugee, one who does not seek to harm anyone, has nothing to fear from people like us. 2 – those that would do us harm will be met with bullets that have been soaked in pig fat; they won’t be going to Paradise…

    Now for the “bad them” (and “incredibly bad OBAMA”) part:

    The Shoe, underwear, USS Cole, Madrid Train, Bafi Nightclub, London Subway, Boston Marathon, Pan-Am flight #93, Beirut US Embassy, Buenos Aires, Kenyan US Embassy, Saudi Khobar Towers, Beirut Marine Barracks & first World Trade Center bombers were all Muslims.
    The Beltway Snipers, Fort Hood & San Bernardino Shooters were Muslims
    The Moscow Theatre, Israeli Olympic Team, Besian Russian School, Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
    The invaders of the Iranian & Libyan US Embassies were Muslims
    The Air France Entebbe, Achille Lauro Cruise Ship & September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

    Compatibility:
    Buddhists living with Hindus, Sikhs, Shintos = No Problem
    Hindus living with Christians, Jews, Baha’is = No Problem
    Christians living with Shintos, Jews = No Problem
    Shintos living with Confucians, Atheists = No Problem
    Confucians living with Baha’is, Hindus = No Problem
    Baha’is living with Jews, Christians = No Problem
    Jews living with Atheists, Buddhists = No Problem
    Atheists living with Buddhists, Confucians = No Problem
    Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
    Muslims living with any of the above = Problem
    MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

    ********** Which Explains *****************
    They’re not happy in Gaza, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Lebanon, Nigeria, Kenya, or Sudan

    ******** So, where are they happy? **********
    They’re happy in Australia, England, Belgium, France, Italy, Germany, Sweden, USA, Canada, India

    They’re happy in nearly any country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame? Not Islam… Not their leadership… Not themselves… THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN! They want to change the countries they’re happy in to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally turn them into more Third World shitholes…

    Allah *IS* Satan (Joshua 24:15)
    http://conservativetribune.com/mississippi-baptist-church

    Islam is NOT the “Religion of PEACE”

    ISIS, Hamas, Ansaru, Taliban, Al-Badr, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, Hezbollah, Boko Haram, Abu Sayyaf. Islamic Jihad, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jemaah Islamiyah, Muslim Brotherhood, Abdullah Azzam Brigades, Palestine Liberation Front: ALL ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATIONS
    (and a LOT more)

    Think about these things that Muslims do/believe – ALL incompatible with basic human rights and everyone ELSE’s moral values:
    1) Kill anyone who insults Islam or Mohammad. (Koran.33;57-61).
    2) Kill all Muslims who leave Islam. (Koran.2;217/4;89/Bukhari.9;84-57).
    3) Koran can not be doubted. (Koran.2;1).
    4) Islam is the only acceptable religion. (Koran.3;85).
    5) Muslims must fight (jihad) non-Muslims, even if they don’t want to. (Koran.2;216).
    6) Non-Muslims are pigs and apes. (Koran. 2;62-65/Koran.5;59-60/Koran.7;166).
    7) Non-Muslims cannot be friends with Muslims. (Koran.5;51).
    8) Non-Muslims are sworn enemies of Muslims and Islam. (Koran.4;101).
    9) Non-Muslims can be raped as sex slaves. (Koran.4;3 & 24/5;89/23;5/33;50/58;3/70;30).
    10) Non-Muslims are the vilest of creatures deserving no mercy. (Koran.98;6).
    11) Muslims must terrorize non-Muslims. (Koran.8;12 &59-60/ Bukhari.4;52;220).
    12) Muslims must strike terror into non-Muslims hearts. (Koran.8;60).
    13) Muslims must lie to non-Muslims to strengthen and spread Islam. (Koran.3;28?16;106).
    14) Muslims are allowed to behead non-Muslims (Koran.47;4).
    15) Muslims are guaranteed to go to heaven (Paradise) if they kill non-Muslims. (Koran.9;111).
    16) Marrying and divorcing pre-pubescent children is OK. (Koran.65;4).
    17) Wife beating is OK. (Koran.4;34).
    18) Raping wives is OK. (Koran.2;223).
    19) Proving rape requires four male Muslim witnesses. (Koran.24;13).
    20) Muslims are allowed to crucify and amputate non-Muslims. Koran.8;12/47;4).

    WAKE UP, AMERICA, read this article!
    http://conservativetribune.com/alarming-map-shows-mosques

    Boko Haram, Al-qaida, Fascism, Bolsheviks, and Political Satanism (Liberalism) all love unarmed Christians (make the connection?).

    —–

    OBAMA IS A MUSLIM SYMPATHIZER:
    It Was/IS Obama Who …
    … cannot say “Islamic Terror”
    … apparently considers San Bernardino to be “workplace violence”
    … did not go to France to show solidarity against the Muslim terrorists, after their deadly anti-Christian and Jewish massacre there
    … spoke these words at one of the many Muslim dinners he’s attended: “I am one of you.”
    … on ABC News referenced – “My Muslim faith”
    … gave $100 million of STIMULUS taxpayer funds, to re-build foreign Muslim Mosques.
    … wrote that in the event of a conflict with Muslims: “I will ALWAYS stand with the Muslims.”
    … assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that – “I am a Muslim.”
    … bowed in submission before the Saudi King.
    … sat for 20 years in the congregation of Reverend Wright’s Social Just-Us, Liberation Theology Church, constantly condemning Christianity and professing Marxism.
    … exempted Muslims in America from ALL penalties under Obamacare – that the rest of us have to pay.
    … purposefully omitted – “endowed by our Creator” – from his recitation of one of our ‘founding documents’ : The Declaration Of Independence.
    … mocked the Christian Bible and Jesus Christ’s Sermon On The Mount, while constantly referring to his love for the Islamic Quran.
    … traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States Of America and our greatest ally there – Israel.
    … instantly threw the support of his entire administration behind the building of a Ground Zero Victory Islamic Mosque, to overlook the hallowed ground 9/11 crater of the former World Trade Center.
    … refused to host the annual traditional National Prayer Breakfast at the WH, but hastened to host the first Islamic “call to prayer” there.
    … ordered Georgetown University and Notre Dame to shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ, BEFORE he would agree to go there to speak, but has NEVER requested Islamic Mosques you visited, adjust their decorum likewise.
    … appointed anti-Christian, Muslim Brotherhood fanatics to his WH, Czar Corps.
    … appointed known radical Muslim Brotherhood members, as advisors to Homeland Security.
    … said that NASA’s “foremost mission” was an outreach to Muslim communities.
    … as an Illinois Senator – the ONLY leftist politician who favored the medical procedure of infanticide: the murdering of babies – born ALIVE.
    … was the first US President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the WH Oval office, but went out of your way to hang photos of Chairman Mao and other controversial world dictators on the WH Christmas tree.
    … stopped ALL military tribunals of Islamic terrorists captured on the battlefield, and sent to the US Navy Base at Guantanamo, Cuba .
    … refused to condemn the Islamic Ft. Hood killer, as an Islamic terrorist attack, which he preferred to call “Work Place Violence” instead.
    … has refused to speak out concerning the horrific executions of women throughout the history of Muslim culture, but submitted the state of Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical human-rights abuses.
    … when queried in India, refused to acknowledge the true extent of radical global Jihadi’s, and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu, and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorists assaults.
    … funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.
    … ordered the USPS to honor a MUSLIM holiday with a new commemorative stamp.
    … directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach to help “empower” the British Muslim community.
    … embraced fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in his quest to overthrow Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak.
    … funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar schools across our country.
    … who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of gold jewelry during Ramadan.
    … who always departs for Hawaii over the Christmas holiday season, so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating in seasonal WH religious events.
    … was un-characteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim Brotherhood, to depose Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, formerly America’s strongest ally in North Africa; but remained mute in his non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians.
    … appointed his chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett, an Iranian, who is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood

    This cannot be denied:
    http://conservativetribune.com/hannity-4-minute-clip-of-obama/
    http://patriotsunite.com/see-obama-admit-again-that-hes-muslim/

  • josephj23

    he’s an a-hole.

  • American Me

    We don’t need anymore gun laws.Just enforce the laws we already have and stop bringing in illegal aliens,especially Muslims who are the ones who want to kill Americans.The 2nd has served us well since our founding and will continue to serve us well.Gun grabbing politicians who want more power are the problem.They are afraid of us and we need it to stay that way.VOTE TRUMP for POTUS and we can Make America Great Again.

  • Wolfman

    Well, the Dems messed up!!! If they brought this gun infringement up during any time other than a Presidential election year they would have gotten it based on the past cowardly performance of the Repubocrats so called ‘ stopping Obutthole’. It is still possible that they could get the laws passed if the wrong person ends up in the ‘ People’s’ House ( which is gradually morphing into the king’s castle [small letters intentional]). Whether you kill one person or many people…regardless of the weapon used, murder is against the law. Vehicles,bombs, bladed weapons [knives,axes,swords],blunt instruments, poisons,gases,pressure cookers,virtually everything and anything have been used in mass murders.
    In fact in 1927, in Bath, Michigan a stressed out school treasurer , blew up 38 children , 4 teachers, 2 other adults , and wounded at least 58 additional people, at the school, and killed his wife at his farm. The only shot believed to have been fired was a rifle shot he used to blow up dynamite he had in his truck ,that he crashed into the school building. A total of 105 killed and wounded without an ‘assault’ weapon being used . This at a time when Thompson submachine guns and Browning Automatics were available to anyone willing to get one!!!
    In 1944 the circus was set on fire . It could not be proven that Robert Segee committed arson [ he confessed in 1950 and reneged in 1994]
    or whether it was unintentional ….regardless over 150 died and 500+/- were injured.
    The point is if you want to kill people ….lots of them at once you can do it.
    Bill Nelson a Senator from Florida, who lives in Orlando , was lamenting today ” What do I tell all these people who lost loved ones? “, in regards to the failed infringement bills. How about…I Bill Nelson am doing nothing to prevent Obutthole from continually allowing illegal immigration / importing muslims, so I’m only willing to continually break the Constitution so that Americans will be defenseless and more of you will die needlessly. Also, that ‘fact’ that we Democrats have been telling you in regards to the muslim killer being a ‘homicidal homophobe’ is an outright lie . The tapes of the 911 call clearly illustrate that we were just making up talking points so that we can subjugate not only you lemmings and useful idiots, but also the law abiding Americans that would oppose us. The truth hurts Bill…but so does being shot like a defenseless serf …but you don’t really care about that !!!!

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  • Lorraine E

    We have a God given right to protect ourselves and our out of control federal government has no authority to disarm us. They keep chipping away at our Second Amendment Rights so that we can become like the citizens of other countries which allowed their government to disarm them. Watch the You Tube “Innocents Betrayed” to learn what will happen to us if we allow our government to disarm us.
    Our elected representatives continue to support the appointed president and no longer “represent” us. Therefore we must rely upon the States to follow Oklahoma’s lead and declare themselves to be a sovereign state.

  • Greg Arnold

    Interesting article on BHO’s heritage, well researched by Daniel Pipes; http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/10/barry-was-muslim ;

  • peter

    It’s the liberals that have to be reigned in. They are the real problem. They tell lies and make up crap as they go along, expecting their moronic base to actually believe their crap.

  • The Redhawk

    What is it that everytime we have aJuhadist terrorist Isis follower shooting Innocent Americans, the Progtessive Hypoctites go totally bat shiite over Gin Conytrol but NEVE say a Word about the Daily Carnage the takes place in Chicago, where there are TOUGH GUN LAWS< betwenn Blacks??? Or Sanctuary cities whereKatie Stanle was shot by a Illegal and Still OBHOZO has not called hee family for his DERELICTION of Enforcing ILLEAGAL immigration and sanctuary citues……has America lost its GONADS to GEt rid of such Incompetent and Delusional professional Street Walkers we call POLITICIANS?????

  • johnob1

    One of the biggest problems we face in America is that our elected officials think they are smarter than their constituents. Haven’t these morons learned the reality that Gun Control controls absolutely nothing!

    I’ve been listening to this Gun Control crap ever since John F. Kennedy was assassinated. Gun Control cannot predict who is going to kill whom?

    The Democrats a.k.a Communists are pushing their “Communist Rule for Revolution” playbook under Section (14) (C) “Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext with the view of confiscation of them and leaving the population helpless.” This is the Democrat’s real motive to disarm the American people so they can hold us in bondage.

    Germany’s Adolph Hitler used the same Section (14) (C) against the Austrian people and left them helpless to defend themselves.

    I REPEAT! NEVER SURRENDER YOUR FIREARMS BECAUSE, THEY ARE NOT ONLY FOR SELF DEFENSE, THEY ARE INTENDED TO HALT OUR OWN GOVERNMENT WHEN THEY TURN INTO TYRANNY.

    American patriots like me don’t frighten easily!

    MSGT JOHN CORREA
    USAF (RET)

  • FAITH47

    These two idiots wants all Americans not to have guns in that way easy for the “RADICAL ISLAMIST JIHADIST TERRORIST” to kill all of us.These people are the “PESTILENCE OF THE WORLD.GOD SAID “HE BLESS THOSE WHO BLESS ISRAEL, AND CURSE THOSE WHO CURSE ISRAEL. GENESIS 12:3 IT WAS WRITTEN.

  • Give then an inch [ liberals ] and they’ll take a mile.

    • patriot2

      more,much more than that.they’ll take as much as they can get away with,& lie to take more.

      • Yep, I believe you. I’ve seen so much these 8 years, and the ignorant that want to change this Country into something that later will hit their home and families. They’ll use them and then lose them. I just keep seeing [ in my mind ] the times of Hitler and what he and his goons did to millions of innocent people. I’ve seen film on this and it made me sick to see such evil destroy thousands of good people. We are in for a rough ride if some of those Democrats don’t wake up and see the real Hillary. All they have to do, is to do some research and they’ll see plenty. I do a lot of praying about this and hope God opens the minds and eyes of these people.

        • patriot2

          the dems want to turn America into something more like europe & if they get it done we’re in trouble.all we have to do is watch what goes on over there with the muslim infection to see that.they’re also trying to remove our firearms so we can’t fight back.

          • Yes, they do. and the reality is, if that happens, there will be no Country left to help those that need help and also used as an example to show others there is a right way and a wrong way to doing things. I still have a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact, Hillary has even been allowed to run, knowing she’s under investigation…and also Obama is still where he is, after he took an oath to defend this Country.

  • Richard Bagenstose

    good because as you know they are putting our veterans , tea party , and normal americans on the watch list instead of terrorist muslums , guns don’t kill people do

    • patriot2

      also bogus religious cults like islam.

    • Lkfeinb

      People with guns kill efficiently!

      • Rodney Steward

        You need to remember that!!

    • Lkfeinb

      What? People with guns kill efficiently.

  • Triple J Jackson

    Stay Armed folks! Don’t give them up.
    Everyone should be buying Fire arms and Ammo. If only to give the Manufacturing companies strength.
    JOIN The NRA and write congress.
    Buy a Gun a month if you can afford it. Teach your kids or grandkids to shoot and hunt. Get them involved in shooting sports and out of Fakebook. So they will SEE that the Looney left’s are Wrong and a gun is just a gun it’s metal And wood or synthetic. Just a tool Its no more dangerous than a screwdriver.

  • downdraft

    Lets keep pounding to GET RID OF RYAN…GET RID OF McConnell…and be more careful when choosing who to vote for to replace them…right now if you were to hypothetically replace them with a “like” person, you would simply pick two Baboons from the zoo…
    …my apologies to the Baboon species…

  • Tiger

    This last event, every event since 9/11 involving Muslims had nothing to do with guns and everything to do with Terrorism right here, right now on our shores, thanks to a feckless, reckless president, who obviously cares absolutely nothing for the American people. In fact he cares so little that right after this attack he brought in another 441 Syrians, after the head of the CIA told congress they were infiltrated with ISIS. He then slapped our state and our governor in the face by putting them in Florida and many right, smack dab in Orlando.

    Now I want anyone, even the “Stupid” in this country to tell me this was an act of love and caring by the president. The man is killing us literally and setting us up for a huge amount of attacks in divers places.

    Guns my backside, the goal is to disarm us at the most dangerous time in our countries history on our shores and finally that insipid congress did the right thing.

  • ADRoberts

    Someone please give McConnell, Cornyn and Grassley some READING LESSONS. Apparently they are not smart enough to understand “….shall not be infringed.” means NO LAWS RESTRICTING GUNS, at all.
    Oh, that’s right. They understand. They are just following the orders of their MASTERS, the elite, Bilderbergs.

    • johnob1

      You have to understand that back in the mid-fifties, members of the American Communist Party went underground and infiltrated the Democratic Party, and then later, the Republican Party, and they are known as RINOs. This is why nothing ever gets done in the name of our sovereign Republic and/or its citizens.

      The people you just mentioned are in fact communists. They are easily spotted by their Marxist philosophies. Destroy the country from within. These people are not true American patriots. Their goal is to enslave the American people and sell us out to the corrupted country club of the United Nations’ (UN) New World Order.

      Too many American patriots died to keep this sovereign Republic of these United States of America free from tyranny, and I’m ready to kill to maintain our liberties and freedoms.

      MSGT JOHN CORREA
      USAF (RET)

      • ADRoberts

        I have a different opinion. I believe that they are simply controlled by the elite aka ONE WORLD ORDER, aka Bilderbergs.
        And they truly are controlled.
        See that explains George Bush Sr.s continued ranting about ONE WORLD ORDER.
        It explains Paul Ryan giving Obama everything Obama asked for and more.
        It explains why John Roberts incorrectly and against the Constitution declared Obamacare to be a tax, and did not in the same breath, declare that since it originated in the Senate, was illegal.
        Too many who came in strong ans suddenly caved. Sarah Palin, who left her husband near death, to go and endorse Trump.
        For sure, that indicated that Trump IS one of them.

  • Daniel

    Orlando was an act of terrorism. The current administration refuses to admit it. It also refuses to admit radical muslims or allegiance to radical muslims. We have been lied to by Obama, Clinton (both), Lynch, Biden etc. and it is past due that Americans stand up and say “ENOUGH”!

    • ADRoberts

      Be accurate. Obama is an act of terrorism.

      • Rodney Steward

        And much more to come!!!

        • Tiger

          Much, much more to come in divers places.

        • Irv Cohn

          If Trump gets elected, and I hope and pray that he does,,,,,,,,,,,,I feel so sorry for the shameful mess that he’s going to inherit from Obozo. Irv.

          • Rodney Steward

            This is going to be one time that we are going to have to help! If, and like U I hope he’s President we’re going to have one attack after another, because America is the PRIZE!!

          • Lkfeinb

            He won’t get elected.

          • Rodney Steward

            You better hope he does, it may b your life he saves!

          • Lkfeinb

            Even the NRA disavowed him! And , boy, do I think the NRA is ruining this country. That is the best thing going for him!

          • Rodney Steward

            I watched on the tube when they indorsed him, sorry U fear guns, been around them all my life raised on a farm, then 12 years in the military! And the best thing going for Hellary is Benghazi! WOW!!!

          • Lkfeinb

            OK, You are one of the unusual ones who know guns. There are very few like you. But , really , who needs an assault weapon except in the Military?

          • Rodney Steward

            There’s many, many like me, over 60% of this country has some military experience and then there’s law enforcement! And there’s no such thing as an assault weapon, that’s a made up bunch of BS by the FARRRR LEFT uninformed idiots! You can make almost any weapon look like a military weapon! You can buy kits to change guns to look like military! They are simply SEMI-AUTO weapons, and you can get that in any caliber of hunting guns! It’s just the gun grabbing scam of the socialist Dem. party!

          • Lkfeinb

            I guess General Scrowcroft is an idiot also. He was just the National Security Advisor under the elder Bush.

          • Rodney Steward

            He was one of the best since Patton! He was ask to do the job, he laid out the plan, and in just 6 days he defeated the enemy, and his job was done and he retired! Now all the good Generals have been forced out by Obama and replaced with his yes men, as he continues to destroy our military! Obama’s GOAL, like Hellary want to destroy our country, they want the NWO and we have to be forced to a 3rd world country and is the reason for all the muslims that Obama and Hellary want brought in to help them achieve their agenda! Me and YOU will be in the same boat, I know what’s coming, you’ve got to figure it out for yourself, because you’re not going to listen to anyone, but you’ll wished you had!

          • Lkfeinb

            He just endorsed Hillary Clinton. I am sure your world view will have an answer to that also.

          • Rodney Steward

            Are you sure you’re talking about Scrowcroft or Powell, Powell is the retired black General. Scrowcroft could care less about politics! I’ve not seen it but I’ll find out!

          • Lkfeinb

            I wouldn’t say it if I weren’t sure. I am sure. It was announced yesterday.

    • Lkfeinb

      The current administration SAID CLEARLY that the Orlando massacre was an act of terrorism and of hate. What more do you need to hear?

      • Rodney Steward

        What the enemy really is, you know, the words Opey can’t use about his chosen people!

        • Lkfeinb

          Hearing the words won’t defeat them. It only makes it tougher for law abiding Muslims and their children to avoid hate and prejudice.

  • Webb

    Well…Democrats made their Show Vote Yesterday, to no avail!
    As Expected…
    Once again remembering they held the House and The Senate 2009-2010 and their only interest was ObamaCare. They could have passed ANY BILL they chose to do, be it Guns Or Immigration, Show Votes!
    Vote Republican in November 2016…Save Our Gun Rights, The Supreme Court and Most Of All America…Guns are not The Problem, its Certain People with bad Intent!!

    • ADRoberts

      IF God is judging us, we will go into slavery, no matter if 100% of the nation votes for a genuine patriot. ANd there is not one running.

      • Rodney Steward

        At least with Trump we’ll keep our country a little longer, with Hellary, we’re FINISHED!

        • David Tierney

          Why is it so damned hard for people to understand that. We are totally screwed if Hillary wins. Even if there is still a Republican majority in Congress, she will act as badly as Obana or even worse. How the hell can AMERICANS support these scumbags. It blows my mind how dumbed down this Country has become. God help us.

          • Webb

            #NeverEverHillary…

        • ADRoberts

          You have proof? Like actions that he has taken that show he is a real conservative. No not a single thing. Just words.

          • Rodney Steward

            It’s called EYES and EARS!! I’ve watched Hellary, like Obama not accomplish one D’N thing other than let 4 men die at Benghazi to hide the fact that her and Opey were and still are running guns and funding the terrorist! Obama said he was going to bring in over 10,000 refugees, and Hellary said she would let in 60,000, great AIN’T IT! And she’s already said that she would keep Obama’s agenda going, and that would be to DESTROY AMERICA, make us a 3rd world country! And Trump is against most all this Bullsh$t! Now how much more proof do U need Roberts. It’s simple, if U want our country gone, vote for the BIT$H, if U want to try and save it, vote Trump!! This is all the Gods Truth! EYES and EARS will do a lot!!!

          • ADRoberts

            All of this is true. But what you failed to address is that TRUMP is likely to be just like them.
            Remember, HE ADMIRED Hillary greatly back when she was just as liberal and deadly and despicable as she is now. GOT THAT?
            I still will point out that Trump IS just as bad as Hillary.
            That does not deny Hillary being bad. Just that you don’t have proof that YOU will believe yet as to how deceptive he is.
            YET

          • Rodney Steward

            He sure paints a lot better picture than he does, so, who the HELL are we to vote for, there is no one else!!

          • ADRoberts

            II Chronicles 7:14. I don’t know who I will vote for. And it is likely that whoever I vote for, will not win.
            But I WILL do my best to vote for a man who is God fearing. And having done all, to stand and allow God to be God.
            This is not about “lesser of two evils” any more.
            It is whether we will OBEY GOD?

          • DaveM

            You are very pompous! You try to tell others what to do yet follow a path that is not Christian! You need to go to summer school and learn the basics! Pride is a very deadly sin and you have a lot of it1

          • Lkfeinb

            So don’t vote!

          • Rodney Steward

            It’s supposed to be BETTER than SHE does in my comment, but I will vote, but it won’t be for the WHORE of politics!

          • Lkfeinb

            You make a lot of valid points, but one you seem to forget is that Hillary has years of experience plus the knowledge of foreign affairs and leaders of major countries. She is far better suited, emotionally, to be president.
            Trump is so insecure and childlike!
            You may not like Hillary, but does that really matter? Do you have to like your plumber if he is competent to get the job done?

          • ADRoberts

            The most propaganda I have heard for Hillary in a very long time.
            What has she done in ANY job she had? Nothing good for sure.
            You call fly;ing around the world, giving arms to terrorists, ignoring dead Christians all over the Middle East and Africa, EXPERIENCE?
            How about the 160 PLUS dead. And that was before the year 2000. One car accidents. Suicide with several bullets. Plane crasheds (the first made it back to the airport. The second one didn’t.)
            Covering rapes. Covering a host of women being “used” by Bill. Hillarycare.
            Benghazi.
            She is far better suited for JAIL for life.
            I bet that is where YOU belong too.
            Now about being “competent”, which do you want taking care of your ETERNITY? Jesus Christ or Satan. Both have plenty of experience.
            Only with Trump and Clinton, we actually have satan (Clinton) and one of his chief demons, (Trump)
            Does it matter? Not at all. Trust God and be ready to die at the hands of tryants and the ANTICHRIST

          • Lkfeinb

            You may belong on the no fly list yourself!

          • ADRoberts

            So when I don’t fall down at your feet and obey, you threaten me?

          • Lkfeinb

            That’s a threat? That’s an observation.

          • ADRoberts

            So you think you are so smart you can twist and spin, just like the other followers of Alinsky. That would be Obama and Hitlery.
            I am just pointing out that your ACTIONS are just like the most vile and liberal out there.
            And that is an OBSERVATION. LOL

          • Lkfeinb

            He isn’t a conservative! Look at his history, don’t look at what he is saying to screw the country.

          • Rodney Steward

            At least he’s had some accomplishments, Hellary like Opey has NONE, nothing but blood on their hands! It would take a fool to vote for another 3rd term of Obama!

          • Lkfeinb

            None? Perhaps you should Google Hillary Clinton.

          • Rodney Steward

            Don’t have to Google the slut, she’s on the news everyday about some kind of wrong doings, take her NWO foundation, money from 4 different terrorist countries, and you’re OK with this BS? You better hunt a hole like everyone else, because islam don’t care if you’re a Dem or Rep. or a dumb down Millennial!

          • ADRoberts

            Figured you out from the previous comment.
            You are worse than Trumpsters. Probably paid too surf the net. LOL

          • DaveM

            Spoken like a true misled Christian. “Remove the beam from your won eye before you remove the splinter from others”.

          • Lkfeinb

            Worse than the Trumpsters? Well finally an insult I can feel. LOL

        • Lkfeinb

          You may be finished, but I will live to see a bright future for this country.

          • Rodney Steward

            If you’re a dumb down Millennial and vote for Hellary, you won’t! You’re probably a woman voting for a woman = uninformed!

          • Lkfeinb

            Right. All women are uninformed. Lets take away their vote!

  • peter

    Until the liberal democrats like Obama and Hillary address the fact that every one of the killings were in a gun free zone and the majority of the killers were Muslim.

    • ADRoberts

      Be accurate. Those who were not muslims were certifiable rabid crazy.

      • Rodney Steward

        He did say MAJORITY!

    • Tiger

      The man is killing us on our own shores and time for congress to face him down on it and force him to Stand Down. He brought 441 more Syrians into America right after the Orlando shooting and put half of them in Florida and many right in Orlando.

      The man is a demon Hell bent on the total collapse and destruction of this country by putting the enemy by the hundreds of thousands all over our country. The worst of the worst. He is the enemy.

      • Rodney Steward

        They said they were bring the fight to us, and mostly because of another failure by this President to stop them on their own land!

        • Tiger

          OH yes indeed and what did Bush say? We need to fight it over there so it won’t come here. I am an Army nurse who served in two wars for that very purpose, we all said now with us and not with our children.

          But O has placed 100,000 a year, from the worst countries since coming into office all over our country.

          They are here, they are ready and they await our guns being confiscated then look for what they did in Somalia, Black Hawk Down to happen here. Never forget.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh0us8c0vOg

        • used_to_be_a_liberal

          Sure, but instead he is flying the invaders into the U S, and virtually paying them to set up shop.

          • Rodney Steward

            Seems that we’re going to have a bloody mess, and no wonder he’s using everything these gutter rats do to try and take our guns, he wants us slaughtered! Keep your eyes peeled my friend, we are!!

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            True, but he is running out of time, and he is running out of backing.

      • johnob1

        Anyone whose read the Muslim’s Qur’an would understand that these fanatics are still living in the dark ages, and must all be deported or killed!

        MSGT JOHN CORREA
        USAF (RET)

        • David Tierney

          Start with the HMIC

        • Tiger

          Amen and I have. Keep up the good work.

          Army nurse over here served in two wars.

          Good to meet you.

        • Lkfeinb

          There are several different translations of the Koran. And , yes, it is violent. So is the bible. Most people do not act on those ancient precepts, However, I do admit that 15-20% of Muslims have been radicalized and that they are a danger. That doesn’t mean that we have to crucify 80%, but it does mean that we need to know how to discover who is who.

          • johnob1

            Muslims arrived in Australia looking innocent until its population grew, and then, demanded their Shariah law be the law of the land in Australia. I’m sure you’ve seen their actions all over Europe.

            Here in the United States I call them “sleepers.” And I’m almost certain you may be aware of the 35 Muslim Terrorist Training Camps throughout our country in which our law enforcements were ordered to stand down. Do nothing!

            Don’t rely heavily on those 80% you cited. They still follow their Qur’an of violence as they did in Australia and in Europe.

            Here’s another quote from their ‘peaceful’ Qur’an….

            “Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem.”

            Read what ‘downdraft’ posted. Did you know Bobby Kennedy was killed by a Muslim on American soil?

            MSGT JOHN CORREA
            USAF (RET)

          • Lkfeinb

            I am not going to tell you that I am not aware of this. The Muslims in this country are more integrated into the population than in other countries, except in either Wisconsin or Minnesota (cannot remember)
            And I am not going to tell you that I am unconcerned.
            However, we don’t want the children of peaceful Muslim Americans in our country to be mocked and attacked either.
            We do need to be careful, but we don’t have to be crazy.

          • johnob1

            It was the so-called peaceful young Muslim children who drew blood upon the Christians during its peaceful march.

            Law enforcements were ordered not to interfere or arrest the Muslims who threw bottles and rocks at the Christians.

            Don’t put faith in the so-called innocent young Muslims for they are taught…..

            “1.Those who follow Muhammad are ruthless to unbelievers.”

            2.”Those who reject Islam are the vilest of creatures and thus deserve no mercy.”

            3.”Fight them until Islam reigns supreme throughout the world.”

            Do you still believe in innocent young Muslims?

            It would behoove you to pay attention to what Muslims are doing around the world, and don’t think they are being religious everytime they bend over.

            MSGT JOHN CORREA
            USAF (RET)

          • Lkfeinb

            Where are you talking about? Not in this country!

        • downdraft

          ‘SARG’…YOU ARE RIGHT…as a USAF officer, arriving in Morocco years ago, I was briefed by my Master Sergeant (the guy who kept my arrogant 2nd Lt. ass out of trouble) as follows:
          “Don’t kid yourselves gentlemen…these Muslims believe they are rewarded for killing a Christian, unbelievers…so be careful of your behavior and what you say…this is straight from their Qur’an…”
          I lost an airman who ventured to Casablanca on a weekend…did not return…the Air Police found him “nailed” to a wood door in an alley./..seems he had made overtures to a Fatima and was “taken care of” by a few Arabs.
          While it seems like “dooms day” talk, I often chuckle when I wonder if these DEMS and other Socialists like Hillary have considered how they will be treated by the Muslims terrorists when they take over our country…
          …Hillary must really believe they will REWARD her and won’t butcher her as they will others…
          …or maybe she already knows and sucks up to them because she is afraid as well…such wonderful Leaders we have!
          Obama knows this too…and maybe that is why he is so frightened…a real coward….afraid to fight against them, preferring to “look like them”…be their FRIEND!…kisses their hand wherever they direct him, bows before them…
          A COWARD through and through

      • used_to_be_a_liberal

        Of course he is. Now Obama, The Hilda-Beast, and Pocahontas, are fuming. The Hilda-Beast is screeching, but she has a problem, and that is that she has accomplished nothing. So, she has to accomplish something, but what? Oh I know;
        So, if the Hilda-Beast really and truly is a lesbo, then she can be like Obama, who gave the lbgt&q community the rainbow house, the Hilda-Beast can give them their very own flower, and no, not the pansy, because it only applies to really effeminate gay males.
        The Hilda-Beast should make the “Dandy Loin” renamed from the dandelion, the lbgt&q’s identity flower. As they are all just “Dandy” or “Dandies” an old British saying, and they love to chew, and lick on loins. So this would fit, and the Hilda-Beast would actually have one real accomplishment.
        So Hilda-Beast go do that, and leave our guns alone.

        • Tiger

          LMAO they were also called Fops among other things in the Middle Ages.

      • Lkfeinb

        How many of the Syrians were Christians?

        • Tiger

          From what we are hearing the bulk of these refugees are not Christians but Syrians. In Europe the same thing, the Slavic countries said they would take Christians there are none.

          Go to a site called refugee watch on the net and find out.

    • downdraft

      Yes…but to them its a “Game”…i.e., how to get power and not how to protect this country and us out here…

      I guess none of them would be found waving a flag in earnest at a parade…unless there was a good chance the prize was power…

      …and OBIMBO…makes me want to regurgitate when I see him “Fake It”, bowing his head in sorrow and prayer after one of his planned power grabbed mass murders was completed…his past behaviors make it dangerous for us to trust him and his motives…

      It is an intrusion for him to exercise his “PHOTO OPT” for
      when my fellow citizens died because of him and his zest for power.

      I find no credentials that make him worthy of presidential responsibilities to our Nation…I don’t consider it his nation…his is in some other place, obviously in the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, terrorist world …

      The Dem’s theory could easily be, it seems, to ” keep planning and administering plans to kill a lot of people with guns…until we give in…”

      Think about it this scenario…the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
      can only GET A DICTATORSHIP in place when the citizens are DISARMED!…

      …until then, they realize how many millions of people own guns for protection in this country…and that we would used them to DEFEND OURSELVES, per the Constitution and the law..

      Obimbo has already demonstrated he is not qualified, he is frightened of his Islamic brothers, a Coward, and can’t be trusted to protect us…as Palin noted, right or wrong, …HE IS SOME KIND OF STUPID!

      • johnob1

        Congress has the power to arrest the foreign-born illegal alien Muslim commuist agent Saboteur Barack Hussein Obama II as I had pleaded with members of Congress since the Muslim conquered the White House.

        They saw fit to ignore this American patriot in favor of the Muslim agent. And so, the fault rests with the elected members of the United States Congress who defied our nation’s Oath of Office to protect and defend our nation and the Constitution of the United States of America.

        Now you know why both U.S. House MUST be purged of all career politicians.

        MSGT JOHN CORREA
        USAF (RET)

    • Lkfeinb

      All they wanted to do was to restrict people on the no fly list from getting guns. Simple. The gun manufacturers have to be reigned in. They are the NRA.

      • David Tierney

        Before you know it, Obama would place all registered Conservatives and/or gun owners on the “No Fly List” or “Terrorist Watch List” and the Country would become totally defenseless against the tide of Muslims he is infiltrating our neighborhoods with.

        • patriot2

          that guy is a liberal troll,thinks he’s Gods gift to the liberal democrats.

      • patriot2

        and obama has it “fixed”so there doesn’t need to be any proof of wrongdoing to get on that list.I’m not going to trust an obama controlled organization to decide that for me without knowing why.you may like your nose brown but I don’t have to put up with the liberal democrats trying to run my life,& the NRA is not in the business to manufacture guns but they have been fairly successful at keeping morons like yourself from taking mine.now you can leave,troll.

        • Lkfeinb

          You are only one of the 8 % in this country who feel this way. The gun manufacturers DO fund the NRA. Most of the non corporate members of the NRA are for sensible gun control. You want to keep your head in the sand? Why? What do you get out of it? You can still have your guns! You really want people who are on the no fly list to be able to purchase assault weapons? Makes no sense at all.

          • Rodney Steward

            It’s already been proven at how many people have been mistakenly put on the no fly list, again, get educated!

          • patriot2

            I don’t think they want education,just want us not to be able to provide our own self defense.normal liberal democrat behavior.

          • patriot2

            all gun owners that want representation in govornment donate to the NRA because we won’t get any help from idiots like you,only more bad anti-gun laws & many have been accidentally put on the no fly list.you are still after ALL guns,you don’t need to lie to us we already know.you are the ones that make no sense at all,unable to see that the FBI stats show gun crime is going down even as gun ownership is going up.

        • Lkfeinb

          All you see is black and white and you denigate people who have the ability to see grey.
          Trump is for you, except you might be surprised what he would do if he is elected. He is totally unpredictable
          and will do what HE wants. He will not win and that may actually be better for you.

      • Rodney Steward

        Well bright eyes, did U know that cell phones have now surpassed gun related deaths and DUI’s, yes cell phones, I guess they’re next right!!

  • regulus30

    GUNS KILL; people with a mental problem use them, if there were no guns then the nutjobs would use what ever other object they could produce.[re; China stabbings].

    • Sue Lenhart

      PEOPLE kill. A gun is just one of many tools that a person bent on killing can use to do so.

      • regulus30

        think that is what I said. read it and savor each word so you exercise use that critical thinking

        • johnob1

          No, you posted…. “GUNS KILL”

          MSGT JOHN CORREA
          USAF (RET)

    • Wingedgodd3ss

      Hammers, wire, screw drivers, knives, bowling ball, candlestick in the library…..

      • regulus30

        exactly, maybe Sue will read your post and get it.

    • ADRoberts

      Far more guns defend and protect. And you and every gun grabber KNOWS this.
      It remains. It is about the end game. Confiscation and slavery or death.

      • Rodney Steward

        Liberty or DEATH!!

        • BOC

          You are correct and THAT CHOICE may have to made in the next 6 to 12 months………..

      • regulus30

        you are accusing me of being a gun grabber? Reread the post boudraux, I am far out in front of you in fighting these liberal pukes.

        • ADRoberts

          Maybe you should take lessons in expressing yourself. The first two words of your post ARE the very words used by every gun grabber.
          So if you don’t want me and others assuming you are one of them, AVOID THOSE WORDS.
          Guns are NOT the thing that essentially kills. It is PEOPLE.

          • regulus30

            did that on purpose to see if people see anything but what they want to, my post was exact and precisely did what I intended, you are what is known as a low information voter. I also will continue to express myself in any manner I wish, you are a pushy fascist.

    • Lkfeinb

      Right you are! However how easy is it to kill 49 people with a knive before being cut down by a security guard?

    • Lkfeinb

      Sure, you are correct, but a stabbing could kill a few in the same time an assault rifle can and did kill 50.

      • regulus30

        millions of guns are all that keep progressive diktakerss like obammie from over running “we the people”; Kennesaw, Ga requires everyone to have a weapon and guess what ; it is one of the few metro Atlanta cites will nearly zero crime.

      • regulus30

        here is real on the ground facts;;has someone in this club been packing, a patron or a bouncer, this fool would have been dead in seconds.

        • Lkfeinb

          Aren’t you aware that there was a security guard with a gun? How does that compete with an assault rifle.

          • regulus30

            you draw your weapon, position yourself with cover, take careful aim, ignore the possibility you are a target and squeeze the trigger, it only takes “one” 40/45 caliber slug to rip your arm off. question answered?

          • Lkfeinb

            Absolutely IF the person with the gun was near the shooter. But the security guard had to get to the shooter and was on the other side of the club. The bastard killed 49 while the security guard was trying to get a shot.

          • regulus30

            should have been more people PACKING THEN

          • Lkfeinb

            Gunfight at the ok Coral? I might be ok with that if we had the same gun control laws as are in Israel. Amazing! They have terrorists around every corner.

          • regulus30

            nope ; janitor, bartenders, DJ’s other employees could be carrying; usually there is a gun free zone when alcohol is present; just employees allowed weapons.

          • regulus30

            are you aware one can not purchase a weapon in this country legally without going through a licensed dealer? Where did the guns serial number trace back to? Have you heard of the black market, guns being stolen from legal suppliers and then sold illegally; ever watch any movies showing middle eastern nations buying RPGs/ grenade launchers from criminals? where did the Mexican cartels get their weapons ; from America’s federal government, legally purchased guns seldom are used.

          • regulus30

            HOW DID PROHIBITION OF ALCOHOL work out; oh let me think, it created a huge black market for the Mafia/Kennedys to sell boot leg whiskey.

          • Lkfeinb

            You are correct, so are you for legalization of drugs?

          • regulus30

            THC for certain uses ; yes;; opiates, meth other manufactured ones not so much.

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