#StandWithRand Part 2

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May 20, 2015

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Sen. Rand Paul announced Wednesday afternoon he’s attempting to filibuster the extension of the Patriot Act, vowing to use all his legislative powers to try to end the snooping law.

The Kentucky Republican’s speech, which began at 1:18 p.m., is not technically holding up any legislation because the Senate is actually currently debating a trade bill, but Mr. Paul said his move was a filibuster nonetheless, as he vowed to hold the floor until he couldn’t go any longer.

“It’s time to end the NSA spying,” his official Twitter account said in a post at 1:36 p.m., as he was on the floor.

  • I Seigel

    In case Sen Paul didn’t get the memo, he should know that Obama has already started to shut down the NSA data-collection program, which is due to end on June 1, the same day that the Patriot Act expires. Obama is aiming to shut it down a week earlier than that. But Congress still has to do its part by passing a bill.

    And, as Mr Ambrozaitis mentioned here, let’s not let the conservative press twist the story and deceive us – Sen Paul is giving a nice speech and working towards ending the Patriot Act. He’s NOT filibustering. The Senate is now controlled by his own party!!

    • Paul Dragotto

      SO YOUR SAYING HE LIED ABOUT FILIBUSTERING. DID YOU NOT READ HIS COMMENT. THATS WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO. MAKING A LONG SPEECH LIKE HE DID FOR THE DRONE ATTACKS ON AMERICANS. WHY DO YOU THINK A LONG SPEECH IS CALLED THIS? THAT’S THE NAME FOR IT. SO GET OUT YOUR DICTONARY AND LOOK UP THAT WORD AND THEN POST IT.

      • I Seigel

        I think the dictionary is beyond your understanding. Maybe just get FOX to explain things to you.

      • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

        It would be a surprise if it were someone else other than the plqagarist in Chief who actually formed a Board consisting of himself to be able to say he is board certified. He is a born liar so yes I am saying he is tellimng a big one and you are being sucked in by verbal vomit

    • GQ4U

      “But Congress still has to do its part by passing a bill.” –Seigel–
      Nope. Passing a bill is NOT needed. If the Senate does nothing these spy provisions automatically expire on May 31st. and then the NSA is supposed to shut down all Section 215 spying.

      Filibuster Definition: dictionary.search.yahoo.com
      n. noun

      1. The obstructing or delaying of legislative action, especially by prolonged speech-making.

      Rand Paul did filibuster the Senate for more than 10 hours. Party affiliation or control does change the definition of filibuster.

      I don’t believe Obama has already started to shut down the NSA data-collection program. Liars cannot be trusted and we know Obama is a liar.

      • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

        There is a massive difference between a long speech that only ends when the person can not longer speak and one that ends at a specific time. Senator Paul’s speech had a specific time to end so it was not a filibuster. He had to give up the floor by 1:00 PM today. FIlibusters have no such time limit. You can post all the childish things you wish that doies not change

        • GQ4U

          Filibuster Definition: dictionary.search.yahoo.com
          n. noun; 1. The obstructing or delaying of legislative action, especially by prolonged speech-making.

          Is the dictionary definition childish? If you have another verifiable definition then you should post it.

          He delayed by giving a lengthy speech, aka filibustered.

          • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

            There are but two ways to end a filibuster and neither was employed here. Sorry but you can if you so choose to continue acting like aq child copy/paste your definition yet again nothing changes there is no such a thing as a filibuster with a planned ending time

          • GQ4U

            You keep droning on but never cite any proof to back your assertion. Post it or go away.

          • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

            A filibuster is a way of blocking a vote by extending the debate. It can be ended by voluntarily ending the debate or by involuntary closure. This nuclear option occurs with 3/5ths of the senators vote to invoke closure.

            From the Senate rules themselves:

            Filibuster and Cloture19th Century Filibuster

            Using the filibuster to delay or block legislative action has a long history. The term filibuster — from a Dutch word meaning “pirate” — became popular in the 1850s, when it was applied to efforts to hold the Senate floor in order to prevent a vote on a bill.

            In the early years of Congress, representatives as well as senators could filibuster. As the House of Representatives grew in numbers, however, revisions to the House rules limited debate. In the smaller Senate, unlimited debate continued on the grounds that any senator should have the right to speak as long as necessary on any issue.

            In 1841, when the Democratic minority hoped to block a bank bill promoted by Kentucky Senator Henry Clay, he threatened to change Senate rules to allow the majority to close debate. Missouri Senator Thomas Hart Benton rebuked Clay for trying to stifle the Senate’s right to unlimited debate.

            Three quarters of a century later, in 1917, senators adopted a rule (Rule 22), at the urging of President Woodrow Wilson, that allowed the Senate to end a debate with a two-thirds majority vote, a device known as “cloture.” The new Senate rule was first put to the test in 1919, when the Senate invoked cloture to end a filibuster against the Treaty of Versailles. Even with the new cloture rule, filibusters remained an effective means to block legislation, since a two-thirds vote is difficult to obtain. Over the next five decades, the Senate occasionally tried to invoke cloture, but usually failed to gain the necessary two-thirds vote. Filibusters were particularly useful to Southern senators who sought to block civil rights legislation, including anti-lynching legislation, until cloture was invoked after a 60 day filibuster against the Civil Right Act of 1964. In 1975, the Senate reduced the number of votes required for cloture from two-thirds to three-fifths, or 60 of the current one hundred senators.

            Many Americans are familiar with the filibuster conducted by Jimmy Stewart, playing Senator Jefferson Smith in Frank Capra’s film Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, but there have been some famous filibusters in the real-life Senate as well. During the 1930s, Senator Huey P. Long effectively used the filibuster against bills that he thought favored the rich over the poor. The Louisiana senator frustrated his colleagues while entertaining spectators with his recitations of Shakespeare and his reading of recipes for “pot-likkers.” Long once held the Senate floor for 15 hours. The record for the longest individual speech goes to South Carolina’s J. Strom Thurmond who filibustered for 24 hours and 18 minutes against the Civil Rights Act of 1957.

          • GQ4U

            “Filibuster and Cloture19th Century Filibuster – Using the filibuster to delay or block legislative action”

            Rand Paul delayed legislative action, aka filibustered.

            Thanks for the congressional history lesson.

      • I Seigel

        That’s true, Congress can just sit on their hands and let it expire. BUT there are many many Republicans who want to see at least parts of the Patriot Act continue on. Many don’t even want the NSA to stop collecting phone data. See where Lindsay Graham, for example, stands on the matter.

        • GQ4U

          I am aware that there are RINOs like Graham & McCain who do not respect the American people and their 4th amendment rights. I hope they do not vote and it expires because Obama cannot block the expiration but he can block new legislation.

  • Raymond J Ambrozaitis

    When, by definition, something is not a filibuster due to limitations that exist, calling it one does not make it so. I understand that “some” think they can just say things and they become real, however it just isn’t so. Dr Paul is giving a very long speech, not a filibuster. He should be given the proper credit for what he is bringing to national attention and not lied about.

    • GQ4U

      Filibuster Definition: dictionary.search.yahoo.com
      n. noun
      1. The obstructing or delaying of legislative action, especially by prolonged speech-making.

      Rand Paul did filibuster the Senate for more than 10 hours and I give him credit for doing so.

      It seems you say something and it becomes real to you, but it does not make it so.

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