Supreme Court rejects appeal from Trump casino workers

by Lydia Wheeler | Th HIll  |  published on May 31, 2016

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The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a case that a union brought against a former Donald Trump casino in Atlantic City, N.J.

More than 1,000 workers of the Trump Taj Mahal casino said they lost their pensions, health coverage and other benefits when the casino’s parent company, Trump Entertainment Resorts, filed for bankruptcy in 2014.

The collective bargaining agreement (CBA) with Unite Here Local 54 expired five days after the company filed for bankruptcy. While negotiating a new agreement, the company filed a motion asking the bankruptcy court to abolish the terms of the agreement.

  • Phil Esposito

    Just a business decision. We should try that with the countries we trade with.

  • Kanawah

    What was the court vote?, 4-4?

  • Kathy Sessler

    I have worked for businesses in the past. Some were unionized, others weren’t.
    In honesty, the non-unionized businesses were much better. Better working conditions and much better pay!
    I’m not saying this to anger anyone. I just feel that unions, sometimes, cause more trouble for the workers and especially for those who depend on the businesses.
    Sometimes unions can get a business to keep employees on who really should be fired. Great example of this is the AFGE, American Federation of Government Employees, who stand up for incompetent individuals of the VA and other government agencies!

    Look at what was happening around America with the TSA! Thousands of employees were mishandling their jobs. All because the AFGE protected them. Tens of thousands of “travelers” missed their flights. All while employees were breaking security laws at airports.
    Think about what’s really happening people!

    • AmericanBelle

      Don’t forget the teacher’s union, Kathy! Look how many incompetent teachers are in charge of children! And the worse thing about unions is that they are liberals/Democrats who support any and all events/elections of Democrats. They take the union dues paid by union workers and use those hundreds of millions of dollars to thwart elections and hammer politicians into doing their bidding. They’ve become quite the despicable group! That’s why many union workers are trying to get “right to work” laws in their states so they no longer have to join the unions or divvy up into the coffers for elections/actions abhorrent to them.

      • Lkfeinb

        You are a dream for the right wing. Congratulations. I am sure you are very proud.

        • AmericanBelle

          And YOU can’t stand it! That makes me happy…and very proud.

          • Lkfeinb

            Anything to make you happy, my dear!

          • AmericanBelle

            You like me, admit it! You’re following me around from site to site to respond to whatever I write. I enthrall you, entice you, excite you….

            Stop drooling!

    • Lkfeinb

      You are probably right that non unionized businesses are better. Much of this is because the owners don’t want their employees to unionize and give them enough so that they don’t have the motivation to go that route. However, if there were no unions we would be looking at employer abuse that brought them about in the first place.

  • AmericanBelle

    Trump is a brilliant businessman and he will bring his business/economic acumen to the oval office and make things work for us. This is why so many so-called conservatives are terrified; it’s why the Democrats are absolutely terrified; and most importantly, it’s why our enemies and not-so-close “friends” are absolutely terrified. They’re all terrified because they know their powerplays and screwing the public attitudes are coming to a quick end. As for the unions, they were good and necessary for the day, but now they’re over the hill and no longer useful…they bring business down rather than raising it up. There is no longer a need for unions. If people can’t get raises or promotions on their own, then they evidently don’t deserve such. They’ve been protected by unions and this is why our country, most especially our education system, are epic failures!

    • Kanawah

      The last thing we need is “a business man” as president.

      • AmericanBelle

        I guess we can add you to the list of the terrifieds!

        • Lkfeinb

          I guess we can add you to the list of fools.

      • Phil Esposito

        You are wrong on so many levels. Aren’t you tired of every other nation screwing us on trade?

        • Lkfeinb

          I guess we can add you to the list of haters.

          • Phil Esposito

            Your catch phrases no longer work on us conservatives. We are used to your abuses. So they no longer mean anything. I also take your answer to mean you’re okay with the USA getting screwed by other nations.

          • Lkfeinb

            You are free to take my answer any way you choose to. By “us conservatives” you mean you think in a pack? No independent thought at all? I know that isn’t true, but you must think so.

          • RadioFreeKansas

            No, you were right the first time. They do “think” as a pack..or not.

          • Lkfeinb

            Yes, I know I was right the first time.nJudt trying to keep the conversation civil.

          • Lkfeinb

            I wasn’t talking about you, Phil

      • Lkfeinb

        You are so right, He isn’t even a successful businessman. Look at all his corporate bankruptcies!

        • Ken says

          What a dumb thing to say – Trump has over 400 businesses and 4 bankruptcies – that is less than 1% failure rate. Failure rate in the first year of business is over 20% and failure rate in first 5 years is almost 50%. Based on failure rate Trump is an incredible good business man

          • Lkfeinb

            I am involved in the Real Estate business in Nyc.
            I don’t think you would find many people in NY Real Estate, who deal with this guy all the time, to agree with you. I don’t know of any. You are just taking his word for his success. Being rich has very little to do with success. Had he invested his inheritance in the S$P 500 index fund he would have a higher net worth than he has now. He has lost millions!! It is not a dumb thing to say. Has he released his tax returns? He hasn’t paid one penny in tax for the last 2 years at least. Not ONE PENNY!

          • Ken says

            #1 – Congrats on surviving in NYC – in 2006 when Trump said the bubble needs to break I had already stopped development in the West Coast in 2005 because BofA and Countrywide were setting themselves up for the Rape of their clients. His call was 100% correct but that was not he plan of the Establishment and their Puppets.
            #2 – You must have an inside track to know Trumps tax returns – If I was running for office and had multiple investments – the last thing I would want is for the competition and vultures to have an inside track on my dealings. Tax returns are not anyone’s business.
            #3 – You seem to be content to play in the bankers game with stocks – to bad that does very little to help the economy much less create jobs that are so badly needed.

          • Lkfeinb

            No one knows his tax returns and what he did to pay no taxes for 2 years, but that much is known.

        • AmericanBelle

          You truly are amazing…amazingly stupid! Bankruptcies is how failing businesses get their act together, regroup, reorganize, and grow. The Trump organization comprises more than 500 (not 400) companies, and only 4 went bankrupt. Those were Atlantic City casinos that all went bellyup when the Indian casinos sprouted up all along the eastern seaboard, most especially Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun. And those Trump casinos weren’t the only AC casinos to go out of business. AC is a ghosttown and basically going bankrupt itself.

          As for Trump’s bankruptcies, he sold off numerous assets, including his yacht, and PAID BACK THE BANKRUPTCIES! That’s a smart businessman who recognizes something is failing, takes it by the tail and turns it around. That’s the purpose of bankruptcies. And Trump paid back that bankruptcy debt to the creditors.

          Just as he did with his very first loan of $1Million from his father. He took that $1M and turned it into a huge corporation, and then PAID BACK THE LOAN.

          Get off your soapbox. You’re doing a disservice and the soapbox doesn’t appreciate you using it as a prop for your illogical nonsense!

          • Lkfeinb

            You belong with Trump, and that is not a compliment.

          • AmericanBelle

            Only because YOU are a libtard. Stand with Hillary the Murderer…and fall with her.

          • bobnstuff

            If you want to call Hillary a murder then you will have to call Trump one also because people died because of his decision more the once. If Hillary was in charge of security in Libya then Trump was in charge in Atlantic City.

          • AmericanBelle

            We have more than enough proof that Hillary kills. What we don’t have is absolutely no evidence that Trump kills. This is a free country. If someone starts a business, then decides to close it down….the fallout isn’t that person’s fault. It’s the fault of the loser who didn’t pay attention to the writing on the wall. What you’re indicating in your remark is that Trump, as a businessman, is responsible for the people who work for him. He holds no responsibility whatsoever. But Hillary does, because she’s a politician, and has power…just like she did on 9/11/2011 when she refused to answer that 3 am call, then committed herself to their murder in giving stand down orders. That’s murder, clear and simple.

            Bottom line. Trump is a conservative, a Republican. If he had dirty hands caught in murder schemes, he’d be torn to shreds by this government, these politicians, liberals and media alike. But there’s not a pip because he hasn’t killed. It’s a double standard between left and right, with the left constantly accusing the right of violations it never commits, and then makes sure they’re prosecuted for their lack of criminality! But when they do something wrong?……(crickets here).

          • bobnstuff

            If you own a company and someone dies because of your actions that make you as much of a killer as the Secretary of State passing the request for security back down the line. Four people have die directly because of Trump. One construction worker because he cut corners on safety and three shot at his casino. He also has ties to the mob so his hands are dirty as all get out. He paid $10,000,000 fine for money laundering, how much do you want to bet people died because of that money. The guy is being investigated for fraud in New York State. The list of Trumps crimes is long but since it’s Trump you will give him a pass.
            Oh and why would you call the Secretary of State for help, she can’t send troops. Once the attack started it was a military action. Read the reports.

          • Lkfeinb

            No point in answering American Belle. You cannot argue with such an angry person.

          • AmericanBelle

            ooooooohhhhhh, I’m not angry. I’m sitting here in awe of your lack of information and so much effort in trying to put that square peg in the round hole. You people keep making shit up … you either drink far too much koolaid or listen to MSNBC too much…maybe both.

          • AmericanBelle

            You ought to go into stand-up comedy…you’re a natural! Businesses have insurance to cover them for workplace accidents. He’s simply an owner, he’s not a killer. You’re so confused. Likewise, he’s not a construction worker…he employs contractors and if they have accidents, again, it’s covered by insurance; and if they short requirements, they’ll deal with the legal problems…they committed the act, not Trump.

            As for shootings in the casino, there were only two…both had absolutely nothing to do with Trump other than people coming off the street and shooting. Did they arrest and charge the owners of the WTC with murder when terrorists flew planes into them? No. Because the owners didn’t fly the planes, they simply owned the building. One incident at the Taj Mahal involved a criminal who killed an employee, and the casino was immediately closed down and workers sent home. The second involved a person who came into the casino, started fighting, and his gun accidentally went off, but not hitting anyone. He, too, was arrested. The third incident has nothing to do with the casino as a women on drugs jumped off the roof. Again, that’s not Trump’s fault.

            As for Benghazi, I’ve read all the reports. Ambassador Stevens begged her, for months, to beef up security and she refused. Do you remember when a vague memo showed up in daily briefings saying terrorists were going to use planes for terror, how much Democrats went after Bush because he didn’t heed the warning? As if that memo stated when, where and how…which it didn’t. Yet Hillary refuses numerous times to bulk up security, and she said no and left Stevens in the lurch. As to the military responding, they were all jacked up and ready to go, but were ordered to stand down. That would be within the purview of the state department since it was one of its embassies being attacked. But the military is commanded through orders from SoS or POTUS…they can NOT determine on their own what battles to fight, what rescues to make. Try watching the movie, 13 hours.

          • bobnstuff

            http://www.salon.com/2012/09/13/how_congress_left_our_embassies_exposed/
            In case you didn’t know this Clinton could not tell the military to do anything, she was the Secretary of State not not the Secretary of Defense. She has no power over the military. Security at the Embassies really isn’t the head of the state departments job anymore the Trump controls the security at Trump Golf Course in Scotland. I’m sure though the State Department has insurance so they are not responsible for the deaths.

      • Lkfeinb

        Bottom line: The purpose of a businessman is to make a profit pure and simple. He/she doesn’t need consensus and full disclosure. He/she doesn’t need compassion.
        Government is so much more complicated. It would be a disaster to have a businessman as president.

        • AmericanBelle

          No Lk…you are so assbackwards wrong on the purpose of the government and it’s not complicated whatsoever! The true purpose of the government, as laid out in our Constitution is to protect its citizens and sovereignty, END OF STORY! All this social engineering BS of democrats is NOT the purpose of government. It is the purpose of Democrats/liberals to turn us into a nanny state/cradle-to-coffin dependent existence, ensuring the power and control of democrats, making us dependent on them, not ourselves.

          Likewise, we all have three basic rights…life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. The government is set up to make sure these rights are preserved and protected. Pursuit of happiness is setting our own goals for our own lives…it is not the government’s job or constitutional provision to PROVIDE our happiness by allowing people to sit on their collective asses and collect benefits they don’t deserve. Life is the preservation thereof, not the destruction, which is another overreach of our government in legalizing abortions. Liberty likewise is our right to be free from all encumbrances…not to be slaves to the government.

          The government has absolutely no right to social engineering, destroying our culture and traditions, or stripping us of our rights. There is absolutely no need for compassion because it’s job is one of protection and sovereignty, compassion having no place.

          We have had politicians running this country into the ground, abolishing our sovereignty, stripping us of our rights, shredding our constitution, and dictating to us how we should live. They’ve destroyed our economy and growth, and they’ve destroyed our alliances, turning instead to dependency on our enemies who these politicians don’t recognize as enemies/terrorists. Government has overeached its boundaries and thrown itself into our lives outside the scope of the Constitution. And we are suffering dearly for the losses to our identity and self-worth….BECAUSE OF POLITICIANS. They’ve run us into the ground.

          A businessman is exactly what the country needs to straighten out the wrongdoings of politicians. If Trump can successfully manage more than 500 companies, he sure as hell can get our country back on track.

          And THAT, my friend, is the real bottom line.

          • Lkfeinb

            No, the real bottom line is the quality of life in our society. A republic without compassion and safety nets for the less fortumate is South Africa, Brazil, and I could name many others. Do we really want 12 foot concrete walls with electrified fences above as in S. Africa wealthy sub divisions? Do we really want homeless children killed in the streets as in Brazil? Or favellas with shit dripping down the streets for lack of sewage facilities? That is the REAL bottom line.

          • AmericanBelle

            Please enlighten me to that part of the Constitution which speaks to quality of life, including compassion, as part and parcel of the duties of government. I’ll clue you in since I’m more of a constitutional scholar than the incompetent in the WH!

            IT DOESN’T!

            OUR CONSTITUTION, for which you have no knowledge whatsoever, puts forth three rights: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Brazil, So. Africa, N. Korea, Venezuela, and on and on and on…are of no concern to us as regards our laws and rights. We are a free nation…a free people…free to do as we please as long as we don’t hurt another or infringe on another’s rights (which Democrats completely ignore). These countries need to work together amongst themselves, maybe even modeling their governments after ours, in defending themselves and protecting their own citizens…that’s not a responsibility of the U.S. When the U.S. is in good economic standing, we do give…we give more to every nation on the planet, more than any other country. We have rebuilt countries after famine, war, and natural disasters. After both world wars, we rebuilt Europe. But that’s in our giving spirit…we are ruled by it…there is nothing that demands that it be part of our constitutional duties/obligations. We just naturally do it.

            Why we don’t show as much compassion as you think we should comes from the fact that liberals have thrown God out of our arena, dismantling all forms of compassion and caring. Taking prayer out of school in ’61 began the ruination of our moral fiber so people could do whatever they pleased, regardless of the impact on others, against culture and traditions. Following up to that disgrace, was the ruling in Roe v Wade, making it law that we could kill our young without recourse, for any reason. More morality down the drain. The entire ’60’s decade was a de-evolution of citizenry in completely taking morality out of lives. How does one juxtapose compassion for others when we can’t wait to get onto the abortionists’ table?

            As to building walls, if we simply adhered to our own immigration laws, we wouldn’t be discussing this at all. If this administration had any semblance of nationalism, we wouldn’t be a borderless nation without sovereignty.

            And just think for a minute…why are there homeless people? Why are there homeless children. Because people gave up on their responsibilities and decided it was best for the government to take over their lives and make decisions for them. And right now, the Obama administration, supported by Democrats, has caused the ruination of our economy, taken jobs off the market, and sent businesses overseas. So right now we have a lot of poverty, more than at any time in our history. And it’s because the liberals have taken over…so much for compassion.

            This is the difference between liberalism and conservatism. Conservatives do for themselves, rely on themselves and responsible for themselves and when they screw up, take responsibility for their irresponsible actions. There is no need for government intervention because the people are self-sufficient and depend on no one but themselves.

            Liberals, otoh, don’t want to be responsible. They want the government to be their sugar daddy and rely on it from cradle to grave. They don’t bother pursuing their own happiness because they depend on the government to provide their happiness. They’re totally immoral and truly don’t give a shit about anyone but themselves, not caring who they rough up to get what they want. Bottom line, they’re immoral hedonists looking for the easy way out that doesn’t include their having to contribute whatsoever to anything. Just look at the contributions made by liberals…they’re basically nothing…they don’t give, these people. They take.

            And where in these United States have you seen sewage dripping down the streets? If raw sewage spilling down hotels in Moscow turn you on, then go to Russia!

            Instead of worrying about how people of other nations lack respect for themselves and depend on their governments, you should be more worried about all the rights and privileges being stripped from you on the basis of “compassion for others…in other countries.” If you find this country isn’t compassionate enough for you, go to one of your favored socialist countries..take a trip to Russian, or North Korea, or China. And have fun.

            YOUR bottom line doesn’t mesh with the real policies of our country. Your bottom line is liberal gibberish used to corral citizens into the liberal domain of power and control. Your bottom line is nothing more than a wet dream and it’s the reason why Trump has knocked out 17 politicians whose gibberish sounds just like you.

          • Lkfeinb

            Thank you for showing me and all others who read this page who you really are.

          • AmericanBelle

            Are you worried they’ll marvel at my scholastic ability? my understanding of the Constitution? my legal expertise? Or are you afraid they’ll see through you and recognize you for who YOU really are? BTW, where did you study constitutional law?

          • Lkfeinb

            Yes, people will just marvel at your intelligence and your vocabulary.

          • AmericanBelle

            You disappoint me. I was expecting to be torn to shreds!

          • RadioFreeKansas

            Amazing. I will pray for you, dear. How you got so jaded and confused is troubling. A lack of compassion is one big reason I just can’t vote for most conservative republicans. Big business and its success is all they seem to care about. The last 2 repub presidents were a father-son tag team of Texas oil millionaires; the last nominee was a millionaire “venture capitalist” who was caught on tape telling his millionaire buddies that almost 50% of us are only here for a handout. And now they nominate a narcissistic, shoot-from-the-lip (un) “reality” show host/billionaire real estate investor/con man who has used the bankruptcy courts to game the system. Talk bout wanting a sugar daddy to take care of you..the republicans have no clue. As I said, I’ll pray for you and for us all. We’re really gonna need it no matter who wins.

          • AmericanBelle

            So tell us about yourself and how you take care of the poor and unfortunate…and lazy. How do you support them…with compassion? I bet they really appreciate that! Look, again, I am not jaded, I am not confused and I have compassion for those who deserve it…I just don’t have it for people who think they should be taken care of instead of going out and doing for themselves. Business isn’t here to make us rich unless we work hard for them wherein we’re paid well and receive top bennies. People who don’t want to work for this certainly have the freedom to go elsewhere. Government is here to PROTECT us, not PROVIDE us with all we want.

            You do not understand constitutional law, you do not understand business practices, and you certainly don’t understand the purpose of government. You’ve been led by the nose-chain far too long by Democrats who insist you sit on your ass while they print you out a check! They’ve destroyed our economy, tell us “having” is selfish and making money is selfish and then they turn around and take our tax dollars and hand out billions to Iran, while the WH bimbo apologizes; they hand out billions to Cuba, because the WH bimbo apologizes, and we give out millions to Japan to which the WH bimbo once again apologizes.

            Stand up and grow a backbone man. I guarantee it will get much, much more worse if Hillary wins. She will continue the WH bimbo’s policies of destroying the middle class, destroying our rights, shredding our constitution, and giving away our farm to foreigners while she tends to illegals and Islamic terrorist refugees while the rest of us are going to groveling for food and housing because we won’t have the jobs, we won’t have the programs…because we’re American citizens. Andif there anything one can be certain of, is that Hillary is anti-American and only wants more power to destroy us all.

          • RadioFreeKansas

            62 years old, never voted a straight party ticket (outside of a primary) in my life until 2 years ago ( if you aren’t from Kansas too little space here to explain), never been on welfare, never let anyone lead me by the nose and never had back surgery. Oh, and my hearing is just fine, too. Never heard these so-called apologies to Iran, Cuba or Japan that you’re hallucinating about. Nope, never voted for O’ Bama. Look, we don’t know each other so you have no idea what I understand about law, business, the role of government or much of anything else; the same as I about you. What I will tell you is that I won’t be voting for either the blowhard, bluffing, bullying, clueless republican or the bitch with too much baggage democrat. So yes, I’ll be praying for our nation as much as I’ll be praying for you. God bless you on your journey and guide you to peace.

          • AmericanBelle

            I asked you to tell us about how trickle-up economics works since you were bellyaching about the failure of trickle-down economics. Perhaps you should check in on the Drudge Report where FINALLY the realization that the Trump U. judge is himself a racist, belong to the SanDiego branch of LaRaza, affiliated with the national LaRaza, which is a hate group wanting to seize back the southwestern US and reclaim it as Mexico’s. And keep looking to find the stories about Hillary’s mentor, Sen. Byrd of WV…her mentor she’s so proud of being a grand wizard of the KKK…but you never hear about HER racism, now, do ya?

            And again, RFK, google apologies and how many billions Obama is sending to Iran, Cuba, and Hiroshima. These are NOT hallucinations, just facts lefties don’t want the public to know about. Again, you might have a hard time hearing or finding the info as how these atrocities are committed by Obama who is protected by the media, not wanting to expose THEIR hero, the nation destroyer.

            But like I’ve said before, stay home on election day. You won’t be the first to ignore your civic duty, right and obligation. Just remember not to go off bellyaching because you don’t like the next president.

          • RadioFreeKansas

            I’ve never missed an election day since I was 18. And I’ve proudly voted 3rd party for Prez more often than repub or demo. Too many times my conscience just wouldn’t let me vote for either major party clown..much like this year. Peace & love.

      • Lkfeinb

        Well said with as few words as possible!

      • bobnstuff
      • Lkfeinb

        AMEN!

    • Ritaritarita

      AmericanBelle…you are so right about Trump and our present government. Unions were good way back when but throughout the years have been corrupt entities. They have been responsible for chasing manufacturing, and other jobs out of this country. Workers are not interested in them any more, or not as much. Teachers unions, especially in NJ have driven up property taxes to a ridiculous level chasing people out of NJ in droves. This is happening all over the country. But, of course, NJ is predominantly democrat just like California, Connecticut, NY etc. which is the same situation.

    • Lkfeinb

      He’s a brilliant businessman? Where do you get your information? From Trump? Anyone in New York in the real estate business knows this is far from the truth. Get smart. He is a liar about almost everything. Or don’t. The country is depending on you to sort out the truth and not run with what you want to believe.

      • Lkfeinb

        Are you just running on what he says? His history proves what a lousy businessman he is. Why don’t you look it up. There is no one in New York real estate that has respect for that man.

    • Lkfeinb

      Check your facts, dear. Trump is a terrible business man. Read the articles of fact below.

    • RadioFreeKansas

      Seriously? How do you think he got where he is? BY SCREWING THE LITTLE GUY and gaming the system to his advantage!! I’ll admit that not all unions and union rules are good, but we (the working class) need them now more than in the last 40 years as republican legislatures and legislators have gutted workers rights at the behest of big business and their lobbyists (read: ALEC, et.al.) I didn’t vote for O’Bama because I didn’t think he had the experience for the job, but Trump has no clue the deep sh*t he could get in to as POTUS!!

      • AmericanBelle

        Well I see you’ve been drinking the kool-aid! So you’re a Hillary supporter and have no problem with her continuing all of Obama’s unconstitutional, illegal acts, fine by me. Anyone who believes the BS that big business is screwing us deserves to loose everything, and you will, if your idol wins. This middle class you speak of, where is it? Did HIllary tell you where it’s hidden, because the truth is, the middle class has been eliminated by this administration, and there are only two classes now…the haves and the have nots. You don’t realize that because Obama is black, politicians feared him. Democrats of course idolized him because he ran every illegal act they’ve been wanting legislated for decades. Republicans didn’t do diddly-squat, letting him run out his time for two reasons. They knew they could reverse all of his actions once out of office; but more importantly, they didn’t impeach because they didn’t want national chaos and the martrydom of the bastard. But with Trump, Congress will have absolutely no problem stopping him and if he went too far, or just as far as Obama has gone, they can reign him in, even impeach him, without fear of riots and national chaos.

        Back to the idiocy of screwing by big corporations, I want you to explain the Democrats’ idiocy of trickle-UP economics. Explain to me how the poor, unemployed folks at the bottom are going to create jobs, income, and bring down the debt. You need big business…they create jobs, they create income, and their tax revenue will bring down the debt. It hasn’t happened because Obama reigned them in, overregulated them, and then gave money to every tom dick and harry he put out of work.

        You have a choice…get the country back on track again to being the most powerful, strongest, and richest nation in the world…

        Or give up and grovel with the rest of the have nots, collecting your miniscule “entitlement” check and EBT card to buy a little food. Who knows? Perhaps you’ll like it down there.

        • Lkfeinb

          Trump is an insecure bully. That’s all he is.

        • RadioFreeKansas

          You have no clue. My conscience won’t let me vote for either of these 2. Have you ever heard of the golden shower? THAT’S what the trickle down theory of economics has been doing to this country over the last 40 years. You obviously haven’t noticed but it’s become a part-time economy in this country. You’re hired at part-time so they don’t have to pay you a living wage and you don’t qualify for any benefits. After you’ve worked 30 hours a week for us, go out and find another part-time job to make ends meet. To hell with quality family time. Republicans have been in the back pocket of big business for over 100 years. (Except for Teddy Roosevelt.) Trump ain’t gonna change that! Trickle down is only a theory, it’s never been proven to work and never will unless and until you can outlaw greed. Good luck with that.

          • AmericanBelle

            Like I said, you don’t have a clue! Stay home on election day, just don’t bellyache when it doesn’t go your way, or it does go your way but leaves you out in the cold because frankly, Democrats want only power…they simply don’t give a damn about you.

            I most certainly have noticed that our country has been destroyed by THIS ADMINISTRATION, shoving Obamacare down our throats in lieu of the fantastic plans most all of us had. That insurance is guaranteed to raise at a minimum 50% this year, and the costs will continue to rise; and watch how many insurance companies stop insuring now that Obama got caught illegally paying off the insurance companies with tax dollars to cover the cost of the so-called poor who never had insurance before. Obamacare has FORCED businesses to close their doors to full-time employment because they can’t afford the coverage. Obama has overregulated us to the point where there is no longer any entrepreneurial start-ups, closing down major operations of many companies who have now moved out of the country, and has closed all avenues of producing energy condemning us to dependence!

            Trickle down economies is how this country worked with businesses HIRING people, paying them, and they in turn make purchases and it all keeps the world turning. There is no such foolish idiocy as trickle-up economies…explain how the poor and unemployed bring income into the country…how are jobs created by this lot? Because you get nothing from nothing…especially when you’re relying on the bottom to raise you up…it doesn’t work that way. Any fool who believes that BS has an elevator that doesn’t go up to the top floor.

            Bottom line, the government was founded to PROTECT us, not to PROVIDE for us. You want free provisions, move to south America or Europe or anywhere else in the world and see how far you get!

          • Lkfeinb

            I understand where you are coming from, but young women need national healthcare and equal pay. I would like to see her in the White House. I hope you see where I am coming from.

          • RadioFreeKansas

            I do, but she’s just got too much baggage. The only time I’ve voted for a winning prez candidate was Bill in ’92. 6 months after he took office I regretted that vote; his administration was in such mess what with the Foster suicide, Hillery’s health care push..ect. Just can’t do it.

          • Lkfeinb

            Foster is purely a conspiracy theory. It was thoroughly investigated. Nixon pushed for national healthcare first way before Hillary. Why didn’t he get that kind of hateful backlash. Hillary just didn’t present it correctly and , as a woman and Bill’s wife, it went down badly.
            So , if you just can’t do it, don’t. We have a free election after all and each one of us has a choice.

          • Lkfeinb

            But if a man had that “baggage” you wouldn’t think twice. Compare baggage.

          • Lkfeinb

            I do agree with you on all you have said, but that is the fault of several administrations and, although I voted for Bill Clinton, I believe he was wrong with Nafta.

      • Lkfeinb

        So true.

    • Sharron Freitas

      Some times its better to stick with the old practices. Instead of the workers getting their due, the money is all going way up top to those who hardly deserve it. That’s what they are trying to get you to believe. The “trickle down” process. Instead, it’s all going back up to the executives and they love it.

      • AmericanBelle

        So you’re all in with socialism, then. Because in a socialist state, NO ONE GETS MONEY…no money for work done, no money for employment….only fools believe that big business is scooping up all the money and driving the middle class into oblivion. But query whether you would follow in these footsteps, start a business, and then pay your workers minimal wages while giving the rest of your profit to the welfare class. Because let’s get right down to it, you don’t believe in income and you don’t believe in profit. I’ll ask you the same questions I asked RadioFreeKansas: query how your idea of trickle-UP economies work…Explain to me how the poor, unemployed folks at the bottom are going to create jobs, income, and bring down the debt. You need big business…they create jobs, they create income, and their tax revenue will bring down the debt. It hasn’t happened because Obama reigned them in, overregulated them, and then gave money to every tom dick and harry he put out of work.

        If I’m working 60-80 hours a week, you can bet your ass I’m going to take back what’s owed me for my work. And if I own the business, you can bet I’m in it for profit, to make money…not to give it away to bottom dwellers sitting on their asses. Check out today’s Drudge Report to see how these bottom dwellers act when there’s a glitch with their EBT cards. You want to join in with them? Be my guest. I’m going to continue to work and make a living with above-average pay and plenty of benefits…because I have skills…I went to highschool and worked after school, gaining experience in how to deal with the real world, and then went to college for more experience and skills. I earn my pay and some idiot bystander complaining about big business can go to hell.

        • Lkfeinb

          You should make money and so should all who work hard make a livable wage. But if the large corporations choose to pay peanuts while they take in billions and hard working men and women have to apply for welfare . What is right about that? The laws need to go back to where they were and not leave it up to greedy corporate owners with no conscience.
          There is no workable political system that is pure. There must be safety nets for the poor and social programs to keep our society working. We need a large middle class like we had before exporting manufacturing jobs. Capitalism and socialism can and should work along side each other for a better life for all citizens.

          • AmericanBelle

            Sorry but there is absolutely no reason under any circumstance to glorify socialism, let alone let it progress further in the States. Again, our government is not a PROVIDER, but a PROTECTOR which boils down to people having to be responsible for themselves and accept the consequences in making poor choices. Government has no business in our lives whatsoever, so let’s keep them out. Go back in our own history before liberals/progressives threw God out of arena. Churches used to do all the compassionate things like caring for the poor, the ill, the abandoned children…Christianity made sure the poor were taken care of without any burden whatsoever on the tax payer.

            As far as businesses determining what the pay scales should be…that’s their prerogative. They are under no obligation whatsoever to to make workers rich. They do have very well paying jobs and plenty of bennies for those with the skills and the ambition to work hard. The corporations take care of their employees. If an employee doesn’t like the pay or the bennies or the work…go find another job. Take responsibility for oneself instead of demanding others take care of you.

        • Lkfeinb

          Unions evolved because people thought like you. No, I am not all in for any system. I am in for a mix that makes for a safe and humane society.
          You are so wrong about Obama. He wasn’t able to get much done because of the gridlock in Congress. However the de regulation, from common sense rules after the great depression, was a major cause of the banking crisis of 2008. Clinton had something to do with that, so you see, I am not blind to what mistakes other presidents have made. Being a democrat is not my religion. However, this is my last post to you because your views are diametrically opposed to mine and there is no reason for further discussion. I just am grateful that the majority of people in this country are compassionate.

      • Lkfeinb

        That is true. There used to be laws linking the profits of corporate owners to a percentage above what thei average workers earned. No more. Trickle down economics has been proven to be voodoo economics.
        Case in point- The Waltons. Multi billionaires that don’t even pay their workers a living wage. The rich get richer and keep it and form political pacs to keep it that way -if they have no conscience . Some do.

  • disqus_BAvz0LV7zw

    There are natural events when business fail due to the economic condition, or due to the excessive demands from labor union. Smart business decision makers in order to save the company has to file bankruptcy to revise the very ONEROUS labor union demands. Filing bankruptcy allows the company to write up new negotiation agreements that are both fair to the survival of the company and the demands of the union.
    General Motors, Chrysler, and Ford, went bankrupt in 2009 due to the very excessive demands of labor union benefits, and the economy that went down in 2008. Those companies should have filed bankruptcies then revised its agreement with the labor union. But the government under Obama, with the Union demands bailed those car companies with our tax money several hundred billions of dollars. Thus the ONEROUS Union contracts continue until today.

    • AmericanBelle

      Which is why I don’t feel any sympathy whatsoever for this union! And yes, good business practices sometimes mandate bankruptcy in order for the company to regroup and reorganize. This is the major difference between the public and private sectors. Everyone knows that piss-poor management, wasteful spending, growing the company too much too fast, among the many other management problems that crop up, is what causes businesses to fail. Some will file bankruptcy, reo ganize and get better, or the failure is too big to control and thus the business collapses. This is how the private sector works.

      But the public sector? the government? Especially this administration, the government is full of bureaucrats who can’t make it in the private sector, know that once they’re in, they’ll be getting raises regardless of the economy, and they’ll get huge pensions when they retire. But it’s all on the taxpayer to bear these burdens. Do you honestly think that if there was an oversight committee that actually had power and balls, we’d be nearing a $19 BILLION deficit? All the failures of government have been buoyed by tax revenue, and the government continues it’s piss-poor management, wasteful spending, growing the government into a giant, uncontrollable leviathan, and beholdance to unions. If it had to reach into its own pockets, not tax revenue, these problems wouldn’t even exist because as it is in the private practice, you screw up, you’re screwed out your business, your job, your income, your security.

      • Lkfeinb

        OK, You, like Trump, know everything. I have learned not to debate those whose views are static and uninformed.

        • AmericanBelle

          Static and uninformed? Don’t compare yourself to me. You couldn’t hold a candle….

          • Lkfeinb

            Compare myself to you? Gd forbid! You are selfish and greedy and low class. So is Trump. Are you a relative?

          • AmericanBelle

            See? this is what I’m talking about with liberals like yourself. You aren’t as smart as conservatives, so instead, you do whatever you can to debase us, humiliate us, demean us….but it never works. We’re above that…and you. Liberals don’t discuss…they rant, on and on and on, as though they were saying something meaningful. You guys wouldn’t know “meaningful” if it bit you in the ass. Hasn’t anyone told you yet that your village is missing an idiot? Do I have to do EVERYTHING for you?

  • bobnstuff

    Did I miss something here? I don’t remember Cruz being named in this article. Trump gets to screw the workers once again, it’s just business and after all.

    • AmericanBelle

      Did you miss something here? Hell yeah! You proved just how little you know about business management! BTW, Trump did file bankruptcy, and then he sold off some of his assets, including his yacht, and paid back the bankruptcy debt. Just like he took his $1M loan from his father, turned it into megamillions, and then repaid his father that $1M loan. People like you should stop listening to the left’s lies and go investigate the true facts. Mouthing off as you do is typical liberal backlashing without even having a clue!

      • PatriotGal

        AmericanBelle, as far as I know, Mr. Trump has never filed bankruptcy. Several companies he owned did and yes, he did sell off assets to pay back the bankruptcy debt which prevented the taxpayers from loss. TRUMP 2016!!!

        • AmericanBelle

          We aren’t talking about personal bankruptcies here, PatriotGal. He filed four bankruptcies on the casinos in Atlantic City…something all the other casino owners did when various Indian casinos cropped up all along the east coast, including Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun. We wouldn’t be talking business management if the bankruptcies were personal. TRUMP 2016!!!

        • Lkfeinb

          His employees did and don’t fare well at all.

      • bobnstuff

        You should check out his bio. The time line should inform you of the facts here. He lost his yacht long before his bankruptcies. That was one of his earlier time he got in financial trouble. The banks let him off the hook after taking his toys. The banks have come to his aid enough times that they will not even give him money anymore. One of the reasons he has stopped building in New York is the banks. Oh and that $1M loan he got from his father plus the other $400M when his dad died that he grow at a slower rate then the S&P five hundred. If you want to support Mr. Trump you really should take a good long look at all his history. He tells you how great he has done but do the facts really back it up. He has bragged about how he has short paid his debts as if ripping others off is a good thing.

        • AmericanBelle

          His bio didn’t mention it, so I went through the bankruptcy files:

          “Trump’s first bankruptcy, back in 1991, cost him dearly as he signed a personal note to obtain financing to buy the Taj Mahal in Atlantic City. The financing consisted mostly of high-risk (junk) bonds, and when the economy went into decline, so did Atlantic City. Nearly $3.4 billion of lenders’ money was involved.

          [The banks] could have simply taken everything he had right then, but they wanted his cooperation. They saw the best way for him to repay the money was to keep The Donald afloat.

          Trump’s deal turned out quite nicely, for Trump. By the time the dust had settled, Trump had had to sell his yacht and his airplane, but he was allowed to keep half of his original interest in his company.”

          As an aside, the Taj Mahal once again went into decline, but the financiers, most notably Carl Icahn, took over, Trump handing him the reins to run and control the company. Icahn didn’t fair well and the Taj Mahal was lost. There was later a legal matter coming up over the Taj’s 2nd bankruptcy, and Trump took it to court to establish the Taj was Icahn’s and separate and apart from the Trump Corporation…he won.

          • bobnstuff

            Thanks for taking the time to check the facts. I wonder just how much of his wealth would be gone had he paid what he really owed. One of my big problems with Trump is how do you blow developing Atlantic City? From what I have read it should have been a billion dollar job that he spent $3,4 billion on. I don’t think he had a clue what he was doing and that’s why it failed. He built what he wanted not what would work or what was needed. He wanted Vegas East when he should have looked at Ocean City. He was creating a place for the rich high rollers when he should have built for the middle class families. He blow it because he didn’t do his home work or trust those who know things.

          • Lkfeinb

            Educated answer. Refreshing!

          • AmericanBelle

            I truly don’t know where you’re coming from not recognizing the dismal state of our economy during that time or the impact Native American casinos had on AC, or the fact that AC went bankrupt because of the tech bubble crash. The financing was done with junk bonds, with the same situation happening then because of the bubble-crash as the housing bubble crash in 2008. Everything was going along fine, which is when projects were started, but then when business opened, just like in 2008, overnight everything went to shit and the casino owners (all of them) were stuck holding the bag, just as homeowners got screwed in ’08. I live near AC and believe me, it went into the pits real fast and tourism just stopped dead in its tracks. AC turned into a ghost town with people fleeing to Connecticut or Mississippi to the NA casinos, which weren’t affected by the economy because they’re their own sovereign states running things their way without being impact from the outside. AC never fully recovered to this day.

            If no one had a clue of the gigantic housing bubble crash of ’08, what makes you think businesses had a clue in ’91 of that crash? Trump already had other casinos in AC that had flourished. He’s not the only casino owner filing bankruptcy or closing up shop during this time. I didn’t recognize it myself (why would I) and lost hundreds of dollars in licensing and fingerprinting fees to work in the casinos only to find out that the pay was so dismal (something like $8/hr…but you did get a free turkey at Christmas!!!) that I turned around, packed my bags, and moved north.

            And how would anyone or any business know what was brewing…did they know in ’08? And don’t forget…this was the Clinton administration which was far too busy chasing skirts than dealing with reality. AC went bankrupt. If the city didn’t know what hit, how would business owners? Do you honestly think they’d be told if they were in the middle of building?

            Change time and location to today. Trump bought the Trump International Doral golf course and resort in 2012 for $250 million. He made the purchase in conjunction with the PGA who had been using the course for their PGA tournaments for more than 5 decades. Trump sat down with them and worked out plans to spruce up the course, including ALL the PGA’s recommendations for the course itself, as well as redesigning the clubhouse….millions more were spent to redesign the place according to the PGA’s requirements. Less the four years later, (this week) the PGA announced it was moving to Mexico and building it’s own course and resort down there.

            Did Trump blow that one, too?

          • bobnstuff

            The PGA pulled out because they lost the sponsor and no one else would put up $9.5 million for something with Trumps name on it. As far as Atlantic City Trump should have done good market research instead of believing he know best. When the economy crashes gambling picks up. His problem was he made it to pricey for the middle class and went for the high rollers. Next he over spent so even had the economy not crashed he would have been hard pressed to turn a profit. In other words he built the wrong product for his market. Pittsburgh Rivers Casino opened in 2009 and has never had hard times. It made more money then they had expected. You say you live near Atlantic City. Have you ever been to his casino?

      • reggie

        There were 24,797 business bankruptcies in the 1st quarter of 2016. He had 4 in a lifetime and they were Chapter 11.

        • bobnstuff

          Have you listen to what Trump says about bankruptcy, it’s just another tool in running a business. I’m sorry but if you are an honorable person you pay your bills and you don’t try to go back on your word. I do know a thing or two about running a business an know why people fill bankruptcy. Most are for the same reason Trump did, bad planning.

      • Lkfeinb

        Are you willing to listen to Bobnstuff? He has the skinny.

    • reggie
      • bobnstuff

        I thought we were talking about this article. Trump says he is for the American worker but imports workers himself. He want to see made in America but does his manufacturing in other countries. He believes in America but has done most of his business in the last few years in other countries, Which Trump should we believe the man who is talking or the man that is doing things?

        • Lkfeinb

          Exactly!! That is one of the reasons he is a fraud!!

  • Elaine Morris

    Cruz:
    “Trade Priorities and Accountability Act” Unanimously Adopting Resolution 2253 (2015), Security- United Nations and Bipartisan Congressional Trade Priorities and Accountability Act of 2015 (TPA-2015) (CFR) Council on Foreign Relations.

    Senate Finance Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), Ranking Member Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and House Ways and Means Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) introduced this legislation on April 16, 2015. The legislation allows the White House to continue pursuing trade deals such as the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) and Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (T-TIP) and allows Congress to vote on the treaties.

    http://www.cfr.org/trade/bipartisan-congressional-trade-priorities-

    U.N. Security Council Expansion Is Not in the U.S. Interest, In the next few months, the United Nations Gen­eral Assembly is expected to consider several propos­als to expand the U.N. Security Council from the current 15 members-five permanent members (China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States) and 10 non-permanent members elected to two-year terms. There are several plans under consideration:http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2005/08/un-security-counci

    Obama First US President To Chair UN Security Council and Ted Cruz knows: https://www.google.com/search?q=how+obama+can+be+president+and+hold

    Ted Cruz voted for TPA, fact but TPA , this TPP Legislation does not belong to Obama,

    TPP’s Founder & CEO to be given an OBE

    Frank Hester

    ​Continue Reading:

    http://teapartyorg.ning.com/profiles/blogs/101-reasons-the-tea-party-should-not-support-ted-cruz-part-2​

    • reggie

      Better learn how to speak Chinese. These trade pacts are hidden, one of them, TISA, has an agreement that the information is not to be released until 5 YEARS AFTER enactment. These 2 make NAFTA look worker friendly. Trade agreements will be negotiated by BUSINESS, for BUSINESS. So you can compete with Chinese workers for $1 hour. You’re already competing with illegals, H1B visa workers who never go home, now you can compete with all of Asia. TISA may be dead because the EU REFUSED to bow down to big business.

    • AmericanBelle

      There’s an entirely new tune coming to town in the guise of a successful businessman who wrote the best seller (and still used as a text in business courses throughout the country), How to Make the Deal. All of these trade deals, all of these “humanitarian” deals, all these organizations that allow enemies and human rights violators to dictate to OUR COUNTRY what must be done….these are all going to be revisited and revised, reorganized and reimplemented…as entirely new business models that politicians and bureaucrats don’t understand…which is why we’ve had so many epic failures in government. The next president is going to show how it’s done, and done right.

  • pmbalele

    I wonder if Cruz is going to use that as a campaign issue to bring Trump down. But that remove Trump luster. People should remember that business thrive and fall. But at least we try to start and own businesses. Government unfortunately rarely fail. If they are about to fail, they increase tax. We are told Wisconsin is now in deep trouble financially. We are told Walker was priding to create “Lean government.” At the same time, he was expanding political appointments three times and each appointee was making 6 figures. Well, of course that is not his personal money. He increased tax on businesses. No doubt businesses are leaving Wisconsin. Walker is in big trouble with the next election. Where is Mary Burke to take over?.

    • Elaine Morris

      You must be one of these:
      Paid Gov’t and Corporate Internet Trolls Are Real

      21WIRE + Brasscheck TV | The public can finally put an ugly face on this disease which is contributing to the ru…

    • Elaine Morris

      Ted Cruz Cheating Scandal Explodes! Presidential Hopeful Named In Murdered D.C. Madam’s Black Book, Investigators Charge Embattled White House Candidate Ted Cruz‘s Cheating Scandal Is Set To Explode Wide-Open, With Fresh — And Blockbuster — Allegations That The Married Conservative Senator Was Named In The Black Book Of A Notorious Washington D.C. Madam Who Mysteriously Died, RadarOnline.Com Has Learned.

      http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/cheating-ted-cruz-sex-scandal-dc-madam-died/

      • Mike N

        I say prove it. List the names in the book. Until that time don’t make claims. This is just another hit piece to make Cruz look Sleazy. You Trump people will stop at nothing to make Cruz look bad. You are like a bunch of sheep being led to the slaughter. Now that he has secured the nomination facts about Trump will come out and lead to the ultimate goal of getting Hillary elected.

        • Lkfeinb

          I know. She is actually the better of the two.

          • Mike N

            Trump is a fraud as you say, but there is nothing good about Hillary. I know she is against the second amendment and will pick liberal judges. Hillary had been a disaster which is known. With Trump there is some hope he might do the right thing. He scares me in so many other ways, though.

          • Lkfeinb

            I understand your concern, but if you listened to what she actually said, she said she would PROTECT the 2nd amendment, but have better background checks on gun purchases. There are 35000 murders by guns per year. What is wrong with safer guns and safer people who actually own them?
            Trump is a bully. He has proven he cannot take any criticism and look who thinks he would make a great president? Putin? Kim Jun Un? or however you spell the mentally ill head of North Korea. David Duke? He really is a dangerous person.

          • Mike N

            I agree with you about Trump, but you can’t believe a word Hillary says. Background checks may sound good, but who, then, determines what disqualifies a person from having guns. If you suffer from depression are you disqualified. If you had a DUI will you be disqualified. Background checks is just the starting point. The bad guys will always get guns. Besides the gun issue Hillary will select judges that make law and not rule on law. Trump is a bully and as far as I am concerned like a cult leader. I detest him, but feel that I will be forced to vote for him.

          • Lkfeinb

            I am sorry to disagree, Mike, but most of the other western countries have laws that restrict gun use and have far fewer homicides. Check Canada.. AND yes, if a person is clinically depressed he/she should not have a gun.
            We also need to beef up mental health services in our country. It is like the middle ages here in diagnosis and treatment.
            You would vote for a bully? We will be at war! There is no completely honest politician, but Trump lies every 60 seconds and he isn’t even in politics yet.

      • Lkfeinb

        What difference is it now? Trump did some horrible things to Cruz with his father and his wife. I am not fond of Cruz, but Trump is disgusting!!

        • Elaine Morris

          “What differernce is it now?” ….sounds a lot like Clinton, “What difference does it make!?”
          What did Trump do?
          He certainly didn’t murder anyone to keep them quiet.

          • Lkfeinb

            Somehow I have this ridiculous idea that in this country you are innocent unless proven guilty. His death was a suicide and thoroughly investigated.

            On the otherhand Bush caused thousands of deaths and maiming of our own boys for a senseless war.
            Now you want to talk dishonest? Try Trump University. Try Trump’s employees who are working, in many cases for minimum wage. We will see many sides of The Donald very soon.

          • Elaine Morris

            Do you ever see this?
            Turns out, one of the two law firms representing plaintiffs in this case against Trump — coincidentally, appointed by the judge overseeing the case whom Trump has (it appears rightly) accused of being “hater” and “very hostile” — have some ties to Hillary and Bill Clinton.

            As in half a million dollars worth of ties.

            https://reclaimourrepublic.wordpress.com/2016/06/02/a-judge-a-law-firm-a-crooked-hillary-a-university-as-judge-unseals-trump-university-docs-bombshell-revealed/

          • Lkfeinb

            Well then his attorney has the right to ask the judge to step down if he feels there are ties to the political opposition and, if he doesn’t and loses, he has the right to appeal.. That is our system. You don’t go around accusing a judge because he is of Mexican descent. Where will this behavior end? I actually think it is wonderful that he is worried about the judgement. His attacks on Mexicans are unconscionable.

          • Elaine Morris

            Yes, you do have the right to ask the Judge where he received his law degree as well as his background in Law..

          • Lkfeinb

            You can ask all you want, but that isn’t a reason a judge will recuse himself and it doesn’t mean he will be partisan just because he has MEXICAN or Muslim heritage. Blacks have more unfairness at the hands of a white judge than any minority. He sounds like a baby. “It’s not fair, Mommy”. And what does mommy say. Everything in life isn’t! Fair, dear.

          • Elaine Morris

            I don’t know if you are a well-to-do person financially or not.
            This is what the ILLEGALS have done in Texas.
            I assume at some time when you bought your new car or house, you put a downpayment then had monthly payments.
            The ILLEGALS here in the U.S. buy TWO brand new cars, a brand new house…then expect Texas to pay for their electricity, etc. Senior Citizens here in Texas tried to have a ONE TIME payment on their highest electric bills. EVERY SINGLE AGENCY had been raped by the Illegals.

            Out of frustration, the Social Agencies actually yelled aet anyone calling…they were BROKE due ot the Illegals..

    • disqus_BAvz0LV7zw

      At the beginning, I supported Ted Cruz. I even donated some money, but later on knowing further the backgrounds, I changed my mind. However, when I donated money at the beginning, I indicated it as a ONE TIME donation only. However, without realizing, the campaign group of Ted Cruz, had been charging my credit card every month, the amount of money I donated. I was surprised they changed my one time donation to a monthly contribution, the fact that I indicated as ONE TIME ONLY. I think they were dishonest, and I lost my trust and confidence with them. I had to close my credit card account.

      • AmericanBelle

        My sincere condolences (for lack of a better term). That’s absolutely horrible…and despicable.

      • Mike N

        I donated to his campaign and never had such problems. Either you mistakenly submitted the wrong data or there was a glitch somewhere. Ted would not deliberately do this for many reasons. If nothing else if this were his practice it would ruin any chances of success in his campaign. Should this be a fact go to his campaign and straighten it out. Actually this sounds like a hit piece to me. There has been a concerted effort to make Cruz look sleazy and it has been working.

        • AmericanBelle

          There’s no need to “make” Cruz look sleazy. He’s doing quite well in that department himself. Or have you forgotten how he announced Carson was out of the process (when he wasn’t) or going into states and stealing delegates. But it’s all neither here nor there now. He’s pulled out of the presidential race and fighting to keep his Senate seat from Texas.

          • Mike N

            Obviously you are a Trump sycophant. Do you really know who he is? I detest Hillary, but at least I know who she is and I don’t like it. I don’t know who Trump is? He changes from one day to the next; from one year to the next. Because of the second amendment I will probably have to vote for him, but he scares me.
            http://home.wavecable.com/~mtnavarre/page12.html

          • Lkfeinb

            Why would you vote for a fraud? I wouldn’t vote for anyone if I felt that way. At least Hillary has been in the International arena for years and knows the players. I am not telling you to vote for her, but for a fraud?

          • AmericanBelle

            Here we go again, love. When it comes to fraud, Hillary is the master! That personal server and the Clinton Foundation are so fraught with fraud the FBI doesn’t even know where to begin, although they certainly have put together one helluva list of criminal charges that need to be litigated…and if the Obama administration refuses, they’ll have more than 150 FBI agents walking, sending the country into chaos. These aren’t the footmen, these are high officials in the agency.

            Hillary has already collected millions of dollars from other countries to which she’ll have to pay homage as promised if she’s president. She’s already sold us out and you’re worried about Trump? Puleeze!

          • Mike N

            Hillary has been in the International arena for years and has been proven to be a total failure. At least Trump, as disgusting as he is has not failed in that area yet. I guess I have to vote for the devil I don’t know over the devil I know.

          • Lkfeinb

            I have no idea where you get these ideas. She was a very successful Senator from NY. Thats right. Trump has not failed in that area yet because he has NO experience in that area. Trust him with the button with his lies and irrational behavior over ANY criticism? You believe everything he says even though he changes his mind every 60 seconds? Go ahead. I certainly hope the majority of level headed citizens don’t. The Republican Party doesn’t. Why do you? I am afraid for this country if he wins just as I was afraid when W won. AND I WAS RIGHT>

          • Mike N

            I don’t know where you get the idea that I like Trump. I detest him as much as I do Hillary.
            http://home.wavecable.com/~mtnavarre/page12.html
            I don’t know where you get that Hillary is successful. She has jumped from one scandal to another. She jeopardized our security with her email scandal. She is responsible for the deaths of those in Benghazi. She wants socialized medicine. BO is a failed president and she will continue his policies. She is money and power hungry and totally into herself. She will do anything to get power. There is absolutely no good to her. Like I say Trump is a narcissistic bully, but I have no choice, but to vote against Hillary because she is a socialist (democrat) party loyalist.

          • Lkfeinb

            Honestly, Trump is dangerous because he is reactive and inappropriate on the international as well as national stage.
            I admit Hillary made some mistakes-particularly with her emails (which is a compliance issue) and the Libya issue. However, she was acting under Obama and she would have had to have his go ahead on anything. She does have experience–33 years of it. By the way, I don’t know of ANY public official who has not made terrible mistakes. Reagan, Roosevelt, Clinton, and particularly, Bush. Trump only has a history of fraudulent businesses and poor compensation for his employees. I believe that Hillary is out for the middle class-not Trump!
            I am an insurance agent , by the way. Obamacare is NOT socialized medicine and she just wants to fix the program so it works better. It is a capitalistic privatized program with government rules. I, myself AM for socialized medicine because it takes the corporations out of the mix and the profit motive. Of course I would lose commissions that way, but I feel it is better for the country. I am also for a national child care program so that people getting off of welfare have a safe place to leave their children and I am for equal pay for women.
            Trump is insulting to women as well as VERY low class in the absolutely obnoxious way he trashes everyone-even Ted Cruz- who I dislike, but feel horrible the way he was treated.

          • Mike N

            I totally agree with you about Trump. I am what you would call a far right wing Christian conservative. I want as little government as possible whether it be health care, energy, or business. I believe in the free market. Hillary is a big government democrat who will select judges that make law rather than interpret it. Of the 17 Republican candidates Trump would have been my last choice, but we are stuck with him. He cannot be more liberal than Hillary so I am stuck with voting for him. I find him to be a disgusting revolting poor excuse of a human being; however. I fear the damage he might do as President, but not as much as I fear the damage that Hillary will do.

          • Lkfeinb

            We know Hillary for 33 years!! Trump has not been transparent at all!! How can you vote for an unknown who doesn’t even know his own mind? Why vote for anyone. That would be a principled approach. Trump is the problem, not the answer. Maybe Hillary isn’t the answer either, but Trump really is dangerous. Even the Republican establishment thinks so.

          • Mike N

            I will give two reasons for voting for Trump: Second amendment and judges. Hillary is anti second amendment and will select liberal judges who make law rather than interpret law. We know Hillary for 33 disastrous years. She has proven how inept she is. I can only hope Trump supports the second amendment and selects among the judges he says are in his pool. Trump in an unknown evil. Hillary is a proven evil. I go with the former.

          • AmericanBelle

            What you need to remember here, Mike, is that among all else, Trump has mastered entertainment and the media. Likewise, he’s a businessman, not a politician. So the first rule is that he doesn’t need to act or talk or behave like politicians do, because he’s not one of them. That’s got them all befuddled. And as a master of entertainment, knowing how to work the media, he most certainly does not adhere to or allow himself to be bound by political correctness. He says it like it is…maybe it’s like that today, and tomorrow he’ll change….shows his flexibility…as well as getting under the skin of liberals and the media. He has played the media and politics brilliantly….he was out to get the nomination, and he got it, knocking out the competition of 17!!! But this isn’t the Trump that will take the oval office. Look at his real record in business, not the skillfully cropped BS liberals throw out. He went to military school and attained the rank of captain; then he went on to earn a degree in economics from the Wharton School of Business, which is one of the most prestigious business schools in the country. He took $1M loan from his father (which he later paid back) and turned his father’s small real estate company into a multi-billion dollar megalith of more than 500 companies. By the age of 27, he owned more than 14,000 apartments in NY! He’s written about 14 best sellers, with the Art of the Deal a common textbook in business schools! He’s got his finger on the pulse of America and knows what needs to be done and says it like it is, which is why everyone who supports him, loves him, and won’t budge. He’s says exactly what we’ve all been thinking and wanting to say, but can’t or else we’ll be denigrated with name calling.

            He shouldn’t scare you. What you should be absolute terrorized by is what Obama and Democrats have done to our country these last 8 years. We are in serious trouble and another politician isn’t going to be able to fix it. It’s time for a whole new different kind of thought-process in the White House. Adherence to the law is number one, which is why he’s already committed himself to immigration, sovereignty, and the freedoms that have been stripped from us.

            What you hear from everyone isn’t fear of Donald Trump; what you’re hearing is the terror of these people at the realization that they are going to lose their power and control. That should make you happy. Couple that with the list of possible SCOTUS nominees and you can see he’s going to do the job and do it well…probably on time and on budget…terms politicians are totally unfamiliar with! Hell, even Mitch McConnell has come to his senses (even I didn’t think he had any!) and since seeing that SCOTUS list, is now fully behind Trump…saying those nominees are fantastic! So he’s not going to destroy the Supreme Court no more than he’ll destroy the economy. If anyone can fix that mess, it’s him.

            Another way to look at this is…what shape are we in today because of the actions of politicians. Trump has successfully managed more than 500 companies … surely he can manage 50 states and bring prosperity back to the US.

          • Mike N

            A lot of what you say about Trump is true. He has been a successful business man. At one point the only reason he didn’t go under is that the banks couldn’t afford to have that happen. He succeeded by stepping on people through lawsuits and other means. A lot of people lost their retirement funds because of him. He cannot succeed in the political arena the same way he has done in business. He is a bully and not a nice man. We had a good conservative in Cruz, but he was destroyed by the press. I give Trump credit in being able to manipulate the press. I will vote for Trump only because Hillary is a proven socialist. I don’t know what Trump is, but I think he will be pressured to be somewhat conservative. Look at his past.
            http://home.wavecable.com/~mtnavarre/page12.html

          • Mike N

            Cruz had nothing to do with the Carson thing. It was his staff and he apologized for that. Had no knowledge until after the fact. Also you cannot steal delegates. Cruz had an excellent ground game and that is what good leaders do. Trump was vastly outmatched. Fortunately for him he appealed to the uninformed and those easily led. If you agree with Trump you are smart. If you disagree with him you are dumb and a has been. Doesn’t that sound like a typical cult leader. He pretty much admitted that himself. He said that he could kill someone in NYC and hew would not lose his sheep (followers).

      • pmbalele

        I told you Cruz did not care about this Country- he is a Canadian. Now he is vacation in Canada – ie. spending USA money in Canada. President Obama vacationed in Hawaii or at Island near NY. Please join me and vote for Hillary -true American.

        • savage

          vote for hitlery? no,no,no,no,no…

        • AmericanBelle

          ROTFLMAO! You should try stand up comedy. You, too, can earn an income…something you definitely won’t be able to do under Hitler’s regime of stagnation.

    • AmericanBelle

      I hate to break it to you, friend, but government hasn’t been successful for decades! They’re abysmally inadequate to run anything from the IRS to Veterans Affairs to Education to welfare reform to immigration to sovereignty and a slew of other epic failures of the system. And they’re propped up by unions, most especially union lobbyists, who control the government which then controls us. Just look at people like Lois Lerner, and even Kosiken (her replacement)….they use their positions as power tools to bring down the masses, then quit while they’re ahead so they can continue getting paid and receiving huge pensions. Not only do they screw us, but then we’re doubly wolloped with higher taxes to pay their pensions!

      • pmbalele

        You may be right. I wonder why people vote for Repubs and TPs when they know these are bad and corrupt people. I am soon going to file papers to challenge the present governor. I cannot believe people vote for this guy.

        • AmericanBelle

          It’s calling deciding between the two evils. And let me correct you…it is NOT Republicans and Tea Partiers who are corrupt (although admittedly there are corrupt GOPers)…but it’s the entire Democrat party who are corrupt, using social engineering to strip us of our rights, shred our Constitution, dismantle our sovereignty, destroy our identity and economy, and pander to minorities with promises of freebie to continue to grow their voting base. I don’t know where you’re from or who your governor is, but I can tell you there is a HUGE movement in my state to get rid of our DEMOCRAT female governor who pays for $700 haircuts with tax revenue! I live in a blue state…a blue state which for the first time since Christ was a corporal, voted for Trump in the primary, stripping Hillary of winning the state…it was intentional to show our governor, a Hillary supporter, that she’s out of touch with reality and her own state!

          • pmbalele

            Did you really say: Demos dismantle our sovereignty, destroy our identity? Are not the one voted for Ted Cruz a Canadian-Cuban national. I guess you did not know Cruz would have used his presidential pen to make USA a province of Canada which is under the Queen of England. So Cruz tricked you. But I fought so hard to make sure Cruz was out of GOP race. Now we have Trump – a true American. But Trump is married to a foreigner woman. That is why people hate Trump. So you may as well prepare for Hillary as President of USA.

        • Lkfeinb

          Exactly Well put!!

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