Trump backs away from mass deportations, woos minorities with economic pitch

by S.A. Miller - The Washington Times  |  published on June 28, 2016


Backing off his call for mass deportations of illegal immigrants, Republican Donald Trump is attempting to pivot from some of his inflammatory rhetoric and begin courting minority voters he’ll need to win a general election showdown against Democrat Hillary Clinton.

The pivot is not an easy maneuver to pull off gracefully, and Mr. Trump almost immediately encountered resistance from the left and the right, with both sides saying he couldn’t be trusted.

The Trump campaign forged ahead, seeking inroads to minority communities long dominated by the Democratic Party.

Mr. Trump’s son, Eric Trump, said that the billionaire businessman plans to appeal to minority voters with his economic and immigration messages, which he said should resonate with those usually loyal Democratic voters who have suffered most in President Obama’s economy.

“Those communities are, quite frankly, the communities that are hardest hit by [Hillary Clinton‘s] reckless policies and [President Obama’s] reckless policies,” he said on Fox News, noting that roughly 57 percent of inner-city youth are out of work.

  • dmttbt

    Since the African american community has not been able to see that they have been shafted by the democrats over and over, I don’t know what could be done to open their eyes. Not to say that the republicans are totally without blame, but to say that the act of saying you are democrat or republican means less now that ever before in history since both parties are the crime party and differ very little. I know Trump is running as a republican but that is only a formality that was necessary.

  • jdp

    jdp…yes, trump never said he would deport all , just build a wall so the come in legally.

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  • used_to_be_a_liberal

    We had all better wake-up. This article may make it sound like Trump has backed down, it may even sound politically correct, or more palatable, and it maybe, however, Trump, if this article is absolutely correct, then Trump as cast an even wider net.
    There is no such thing as a “radicle Muslim.” A radicle Muslim would be a Muslim who rejects the Koran, and Sharia Law.
    The Muslims who we refer to as terrorists, are warriors/ soldiers of and for Islam. The others, the so-called good Muslims, the quite ones, the ones that behave themselves, are just like you and I, who back our soldiers when they go to war for us. We do not engage in battle, but we are right there with them in spirit no matter where they are on the planet.
    Islam is a political agenda that is hidden under the guise of a so-called religion.
    Hiding under the guise of a religion allows them to make their gains in a “peaceful” way, and when challenged they can claim, bigotry, racism, intolerance, and by using the weapon of the “guilt trip”, the “victim” they get the backing of the foolish, who fall into the trap of diversity, tolerance, and feeelings.

  • marlene.langert

    Trump has not pulled off or away at all from his stand on immigration. We must have a reliable way of vetting those who are allowed to come to this country and, at the present time, we have nothing of the sort. Donald is tlaking of many things. As president, he will have much to deal with. Talking of and planning how to handle these things is very presidential. WHen he does not speak of immigration for a few days or whatever, that does not mean in the least that he is backing off from his stand.

  • rifftop

    Media likes to twist facts and portray any thing he says into some devious ploy. Yet they NEVER PULL THIS NONSENSE WITH THE LIBS , HILLARY , OBAMA AND THE REST OF THE RATS. This is simple…….of course Trump has to contend with the minority vote. So those ethnic groups already here LEGALLY NEED TO BE WOOED. The fact remains that illegals will still be the problem and Trump will stop the flow. “Hispanics”, blacks etc all suffer from the influx of OBAMA’S insane migration policies. Not only do the illegals as his nasty muslim brothers take jobs from minorities here LEGALLY, but they migrate and land in towns with other minorities……..and commit crimes…..rape, murder, robbery etc. So Hispanics and blacks further become victims…….because of OBAMA. Any minority who votes for Hillary is an idiot who like the stupid whites who think she is just wonderful……..are destroying the country……..all this crime, beheadings, shootings are part of Obama’s agenda to create chaos, anarchy………to further his Marxist agenda to void the 2nd amendment, control the population, turn the nation into a 3rd world shithole and run up debt to bankrupt it. ………..It’s the Obama legacy……..destroy the US.

  • Athanasios1

    First we keep out the terrorists and the Illegal aliens and then we clean the liberals out of the Supreme Court, Congress and the States…so that they don’t let the terrorist and the illegal aliens back in.

  • democrat CockRoach

    By “mass” deportations he means there won’t be busloads at a time sent back but we will be rounding them up ONE BY ONE instead.

    • SDofAZ

      Easier to enforce E-verify everywhere. Punish employers who violate it and shut down the welfare spigot. The busing em out will just be a final step. Jail and arrest for the gangs and drug runners. No point in deporting them unless their countries of origin are gonna jail em too.

  • SDofAZ

    Problem with the crowds he is trying to entice is they have grown up on entitlements. They are not generally looking for work or a pay check. The welfare class has become a class of freeloaders and few if any have had to justify their handouts. Why work when someone as in the federal government is going to pay for your food, housing and various needs. Remember the free phone crap? There is no incentive in this bunch to do more. Opportunities for schooling, etc. have never been the goal of the black community. Momma and Daddy much like the Ferguson parents are just looking for support and don’t teach their kids a damn thing about working or living without entitlements. The whole welfare system is a joke. Very few states police their recepients to make sure they are actually qualified and needy to justify giving them their freebies. It is a way of life for most who receive assistance, not a temporary assist which it should have always been. Thank you dems for this social cesspool.

  • You can never trust on Donald Trump’s promises.

    What Donald Trump promises today are more often opposite of his promises yesterday, last week, last month, or whenever; more often than not, is tis opposite of earlier promises.

    • I Seigel

      Back in December, he said he would prevent ALL MUSLIMS from entering the country until the people in Washington could tell what the hell is going on. Now he says something very different.
      Repeat after me: FLIP FLOP. FLIP FLOP.

  • kathy diamond

    We all know he HAS NOT pulled back. We must remember the Republicans & GOP are trying to screw him and he needs to make some slight changes. He will fix this mess, He will find his way thru this mess. He AND” We The People” will get thru this together. We must remember He will Be A PRESIDENT FOR THE PEOPLE, and he WILL NOT LET US DOWN. This is our last chance to fix our broken EVERYTHING and he is the one who not only can do it but WILL DO IT

    • bobnstuff

      What makes you believe this? Go look at his statements, quotes. Prime source and see if he hasn’t changed what he is saying.

      • kathy diamond

        bobnstuff, We have 2 choices, Clinton or Trump. FACTS, Clinton patholigical liar, guilty of top security breaches, over looks husbands infidelity, Clinton Foundation ( under investigation) and lets not forget BENGAHZI, = MURDER Trump on the other hand is NOT A POLITICIAN , Trying to reach a medium, making sure WE THE PEOPLE are safe, and not insulting other Nations. Hillary wants open boarders ! NO WALL ! NO GUNS, KEEP OBAMA CARE. Not one damn thing will change if she gets in Office. America will be gone. Maybe you are being paid to post on this site, all Pro Clinton, but just remember if she gets in, you won’t have a job

    • SDofAZ

      E-verify and shut down the welfare spigot to illegal aliens. That will run most back to their home countries.

    • I Seigel

      What “mess” are you referring to? The one that he made with his big flapping yapper?

  • justinwachin

    I saw a similar report on TV. I didn’t see any news clip of Donald Trump actually saying that he was backing away from his stand. Now that the primaries are finished the news media is reverting to their traditional role of handling PR duties for the Democrat Party. Many of these reports are likely nothing more than a Clinton campaign tactic to try and convince Trump voters that he is as shallow and dishonest as she is.

    In 2008 John McCain was a media darling during the primary season. Once he became the Republican nominee the crush was over and McCain was demonized by the pro Obama news media. The same is going to happen to Donald. The same teleprompter readers that helped him in the primaries are going to turn on him as they switch into their elect Hillary mode.

  • AHP1081

    Some may say that rounding up the illegal aliens would not be practicable. I say the law which they broke is the law. Other solutions which might force them to return to Mexico are available. My main complaint is the socialist benefits many of them receive. In my mind it is a case of they break our laws and we reward them for it. I paraphrase, but I remember hearing an illegal making the comment ; “We will take back America by overpopulating it with our race”. I accept they believe we took the western states away from them. Of course they neglect to mention that they took it away from other indigenous populations.

    • SDofAZ

      E-verify enforced with a bite for employers who do not comply and shut off the welfare spigot including healthcare, schooling, food stamps, money, etc.. Punish sanctuary cities and enclaves of like minded public funded places. That will run most of the illegal aliens here for both jobs and freebies out and then deporting the rest will be just finding em in the midst of the dem lemmings and other associates supporting BO’s agenda. The illegal alien criminals as in the drug runners and gangs will just have to be hunted and jailed.

      • AHP1081

        SDofAZ
        I can’t challenge anything you stated.

    • CharlieSeattle

      …Some may say that rounding up the illegal aliens would not be practicable? ….Sorry, it has been done before!

      How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico
      ……………..that Reagan undid in 1986!

      By John Dillin JULY 6, 2006

      http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

      Fifty-three years ago, when newly elected Dwight Eisenhower moved into the White House, America’s southern frontier was as porous as a spaghetti sieve. As many as 3 million illegal migrants had walked and waded northward over a period of several years for jobs in California, Arizona, Texas, and points beyond.

      President Eisenhower cut off this illegal traffic. He did it quickly and decisively with only 1,075 United States Border Patrol agents – less than one-tenth of today’s force. The operation is still highly praised among veterans of the Border Patrol.

      One day in 1954, Border Patrol agent Walt Edwards picked up a newspaper in Big Spring, Texas, and saw some startling news. The government was launching an all-out drive to oust illegal aliens from the United States.

      The orders came straight from the top, where the new president, Dwight Eisenhower, had put a former West Point classmate, Gen. Joseph Swing, in charge of immigration enforcement.

      General Swing’s fast-moving campaign soon secured America’s borders – an accomplishment no other president has since equaled. Illegal migration had dropped 95 percent by the late 1950s.

  • cathylovesyou

    Never watched BET as it is a racist network. Black entertainers should be happy and shut their mouths which will increase their fan base.
    When you don’t know what you are talking about don’t let anyone know what you don’t know. Shhhhh go quietly now

  • Richard Bagenstose

    just like they want to blame every thing but the person responsible for the mass murders the freak in the white house , is responsible for all this violence and all you have to do is look at black lives matter, and the crap they are getting away with

  • T.W.

    TRUMP 2016!!

    • bobnstuff

      Which Trump? The Pro Gay or anti Gay. The pro gun control or the anti gun control Trump. I know you like what he stands for because he stands for everything, both side of everything. No matter what you want he supports it. All things to all people, that’s Trump.

      • gerald Hughes

        Go away ratty litle dem bloodsucking parasite

        • bobnstuff

          Why, can you say what Trump stands for? It keeps changing.

          • monchan

            What does Hillary stand for? Only herself. She has not used her position(s) to ever get one single person off the government tit. Her goal is to get more on. I will take a shifty businessman any day over an Alinskyite willing to sell her own people out for money.

          • SDofAZ

            Why bother with bob? He always says the same thing and anyone who reads and listens and watches knows that what he says is troll crap. He has to post his shit and we can all ignore his crap and his posts along with other dem lemmings and whiners. Vote Trump and expect Hillary to go down in flames.

            Her only support will be the freeloaders cause anyone that works will understand what she as Bernie were gonna do with their money and their jobs or job opportunities. Not to note the obvious attempts to negate the first and second amendments. When the dirt settles, if bob gets his wishes he may be among Hillary’s first victims of consequence.

          • Wolfman

            I gave up trying to talk with him a long time ago. He is basically an Alinsky tactician, he points out all the MSM perceived negatives of the person we are discussing, amplifies their magnitude of importance ,and then lies about the imagined strengths of the Socialist flavor of the day. Typical propoganda tactics we have listened to for almost 50 years from the left…talk about Nixon like he’s the biggest criminal ever, berate Reagan…and lie about Carter,Clinton, and Obutthead!!!

          • CharlieSeattle

            Killary does not flip-flop on the issues.

            She is 100% anti-American worker, 100% anti-US Constitution and 100% liar.

          • bobnstuff

            Where does Trump get his workers from? Where is his clothing line made? Has Trump ever read the constitution? Trump keeps changing his lies, so he must be right every once in a while.

          • Abel

            Where does Hillary get her funding? How many jobs has she created? What is the Clinton Foundation? Why did she neglect Benghazi? Why can’t she remember anything she has done when being questioned? Why does she keep a private server for government classified storage and messaging?

          • bobnstuff

            Hillary has been cleared again by the republicans in the Benghazi affair. I can understand wanting a up to date computer system that works, the government system is slow and very out of date, there are parts that still use floppy disks. Her system was as secure as the government, maybe more secure, the only emails we know were leaked came from the republicans in the senate. If you don’t know about what the Clinton Foundation does you should look it up. It’s a international agency that helps get money to help people world wide and it has passed test after test to prove it is what it says it is. Hillary is getting her campaign funds from people who support her view, people like Trumps attorney who supports her. She has shown her tax returns for twenty years or more. The Clinton Foundations books are open and above board. Why is Trump hiding his tax returns. We know where every dine of Hillary’s money comes from, can we say the same for Trump?

          • Abel

            Hillary is just an Undocumented Felon. She should be rounded up and transported to Leavenworth.

          • Athanasios1

            Yeah you little prick. You want some leftist destroyer of America elected, so that in another eight years, you will be able to marry your goat.

          • bobnstuff

            Is Trump on the right? Is he in the center? Is he on the left? What day is it?

          • Wolfman

            Your exaggerating his appendage by calling it something as large as ‘ little’. Notice he typically replies by asking questions.Guess he never actually listened to Trump talk and just recites CNN talking points back to us.I believe he is the last person that actually watches any MSM ‘news’ channel.

          • gerald Hughes

            Beat it, liberal leech, take your bare faced lying on down the road, no one is going to play the asinine little liberal bloodsucking games.
            Go kill yourself., scum

          • bobnstuff

            You are such a nice person. I notice you add nothing but noise, no facts just noise. Kind of like Trump.

          • gerald Hughes

            No, I am not a nice person I hate you liberal scum and enjoy telling you so, you are completely with merit, worth value morals honor or integrity
            And you are just like the liberal dem bloodsuckers, AKA American Jihadists, you will tell any lie, commit any cheat or theft as long as it advances your ideology
            Then to rub salt into the wounds, cretins like you try to use MSNBC for proof.

      • AHP1081

        bobnstuff
        Great analogy!.

      • 7papa7

        Well said my friend. It was his stance on deportation that so many liked him. I wonder if the fence will be a thing of the past also. We certainly can’t depend on it happening. Time will tell I guess.

      • Retired

        The one you do not understand, go back to your comic books.

      • Athanasios1

        The “Centrist Trump”. Is that worse than Hitlery?

      • T.W.

        TRUMP 2016!!

  • TeaPartyPatriot

    .
    .I don’t recall TRUMP EVER EVER saying he would deport illegal immigrants. The D’genrates have attributed this to him by saying that it would be monitarily impossible to round up and deport the illegals living in the US. TRUMP is, if nothing else, very practicle and very much aware that rounding up illegals and deporting them would be unpopular at best and impractical at worst. But he can secure the borders and stop more illegals from flooding our country, something this administration and the proposed administration of the TRAMP would prohibit. This is the purpose of the wall/fence/barrier. after the borders are sealed against new illegal aliens we can deal with the illegals already here.

    • bobnstuff

      Go get your hearing tested. He said it on August 25th 2015 among other times that he would deport 11 million illegal immigrants. He also did say he would ban all Muslims, All.
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/27/donald-trump-deport-11-million-migrants-is-that-even-possible
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/07/donald-trump-ban-all-muslims-entering-us-san-bernardino-shooting

      • Lilly Putney

        He also said “UNTILL WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON.”

        • bobnstuff

          Well I guess he must have figured out what’s going on since he has changed what he is saying. He’s tune changes so often just keeping up with where he stand is a full time job. He is also very bad at math.

          “It’s also very telling when you want to bring in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees…
          http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/11/world/middleeast/obama-directs-administration-to-accept-10000-syrian-refugees.html?_r=0

          • gerald Hughes

            Yeah liberal dem bloodsucking parasite try to use the NY time for proof of anything except they liberal garbage also, take your bs and your posts over to MSNBC

          • bobnstuff

            http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-muslim-ban-from-simple-clarity-to-plain-confusion/ar-AAhHQ6s?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=HPCDHP
            Trump is like the weather, he changes with what ever way the wind blows. Read what is said and prove it is not true.

          • gerald Hughes

            Here you are again low life liberal dem bloodsucking parasite, only this time you want to try to use MSNBC as proof of your absolute bs.
            Kill yourself liberal scum it is your only chance to be worth anything

          • bobnstuff

            My guess is you can’t read or you would have noticed that MSNBC uses content from other sources. Very little is their own. I guess you have to be paying attention to know that. My God bless you and keep you.

          • gerald Hughes

            Kill yourself low life lying liberal dem bloodsuckers you have nothing and no reason to live.

      • TeaPartyPatriot

        I read your referred article and I did not see anywhere in the article where he said he would round up the illegals and forceably deport them. I did see where it was reported that he would hire managers to get the illegals out of the country. That is a long, long shot from forceably deporting the illegals, offering the illegals incentives to self deport is far different than rounding them up and forceably kicking them out. He is talking about holding a carrot in front of the horse to get him to cross the border and leave. But first the border has to be secured.

        • bobnstuff

          “How are you going to deport 11 million people?” Ramos said. “By train, by bus? Are you going to bring the army?”

          Trump replied that the process would be “very humane” and that it would work because he was “a great manager”.

          I guess you missed this. It doesn’t really matter now since he has changed his mind.

          • mudguy1

            Deporting them would easy Truman did it. It would cost less to deport them that to support them.
            All we to do is to enforce the laws we have.

          • bobnstuff

            Even Trump says our present laws need changed. They don’t work and can’t be enforced.

            https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform

            Much of what Trump wants Obama asked congress for and was turned down. Trumps new plan is Obama’s plus a wall.

          • mudguy1

            The only reason the laws can’t be enforced is because they don’t WANT to enforce them. So if nobody stops at a stop sign and people are being killed because people don’t stop. You would remove the stop sign to fix the problem. in stead of enforcing the law.

          • bobnstuff

            Have you looked at the laws? Being in our country illegally is the same level of crime as not stopping for that stop sign. To deport a person they must have a hearing and the courts are baked up well over a year so we have to support the people we want to throw out for a year before we decide to send them home. Go read the laws.
            http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2014/07/is-illegal-immigration-a-crime-improper-entry-v-unlawful-presence.html
            Trump is a slim ball but even he knows there is a problem with the laws. Did you look at what he wants?

          • TeaPartyPatriot

            .
            How would you know they cannot be enforced? The promise was made to Reagan 50 or so years ago and has never even been tried to be enforced.

          • bobnstuff

            Fifty years ago LBJ was president. Have you even bothered to see what the laws are? http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2014/07/is-illegal-immigration-a-crime-improper-entry-v-unlawful-presence.html

          • TeaPartyPatriot

            .
            Bob and stuff it up your ass. YOU are a troll
            you are not worthy of any further responses

          • bobnstuff

            If you are going to say something at least get your facts right.I know facts aren’t important to you but it makes for a better posting. You use Tea Party as part of you name, do you even remember hat the tea party movement was about?

          • TeaPartyPatriot

            .
            STOP feeding them. Hungry people will go where they can get food.

          • bobnstuff

            That’s why the came here, they wanted food. job, safety and freedom. Do you blame them for wanting the same things we do? They are not here for the hand out, they are here for a better life for themselves and their family.

          • bentonsv

            Regardless of what they want, they are taking jobs from American citizens AND getting government benefits to boot!

            They can’t all be rounded up and deported at once, but you can damn sure work at it until you get the majority of them.

          • bobnstuff

            Have you ever fact check your statement, Without a social security card you can’t get most government benefits. I don’t supposed you notice that we have been deporting them in record numbers the last seven years. We had 23 million illegals back in 2005 and now we are down to 11 million. The Mexicans are leaving and not coming back.

          • bentonsv

            Here’s some fact checking for you:

            In regards to the burden of illegal aliens on the U.S. and its citizens:

            http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

            ——-
            Deportations. I call bull on your “record numbers” claim. Obama has a catch and release policy on illegal aliens:

            http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/deportations-plummet-43-under-obama/

            From the article: “DHS now uses unmarked vehicles to transport them into the interior
            where they are provided with housing, health care, education, food,
            clothing and cell phones. They’re given a court date, but there’s no
            consequences for not showing up.”

            ——-
            And as far as your claim that Mexicans are leaving and not coming back, I sincerely hope that true. Even if Mexican illegal aliens are self deporting, there are plenty of others looking to replace them:

            http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/23/illegal-immigrant-border-crossings-surge-highest-l/

          • bobnstuff

            Based on the numbers at Fairus.org
            Each illegal cost $1256.00 each per year. Since 80% work but not all pay payroll taxes we will say 50% pay taxes. Just what they take out of their paychecks would make up 75% or $1800.00 per worker making it $900 per person, next figure the pay sales tax and gas tax and all those other taxes everyone pays that means we don’t make much on them but we don’t lose any either. Since they are illegal they get non of those taxes back at the end of the year. I hope you followed my math. If you look at the large number it seem like a lot but break it down per person and it really isn’t that much. I don’t like having illegals here but I know that if they left we could have problems.

            The WND piece is full of holes and typical of what they print. They say that Obama isn’t really doing what he says he is but then use the numbers that show a 50% decrease over the last ten years. Where did those illegal go?

            The Washington Times piece shows the need for changes in the law. The immigration bill passed by the senate a few years ago addressed this problem along with the need for more border agents but the Republicans in the house blocked it, not only didn’t they pass it, they didn’t even debate it. Whit I find interesting is if you get ride of the wall most of what Trump wants the congress told Obama he couldn’t have.

          • bentonsv

            Did my own numbers based on the article and assuming the outlay per U.S. tax paying citizen towards illegal aliens of $1117 doesn’t already take into account the small amount of taxes that illegal aliens pay in, I come up with $950/year, so we are in the ball park. Your statement about sales and gas taxes doesn’t make sense. We all pay those and no one gets any of those back, not even citizens.

            The article also points out that for tax revenues paid in by illegal aliens, most of it is given back in refunds. Don’t forget that illegal aliens scam us every year for billions of dollars using the child tax credit. It wasn’t clear from the article if the quoted $1117 per taxpayer took this into account.

            You must have a much better income source than I do because $950/year sounds like huge amount when its coming out of MY pocket to subsidize illegal aliens. Frankly, I’d rather pay that $950/year towards purchased goods and services if it would mean we could expel the vast majority of illegal aliens and get U.S. citizens back to work. Considering the reduced amount of government benefits that would need to be paid to unemployed citizens in this scenario, I suspect it would balance out at a minimum. The benefits alone to our education system of getting illegal aliens and their children out of the country would be worth the cost.

          • TeaPartyPatriot

            .
            I have 3 count them 1,2,3, brothers in law who have families here who are here because we will support them in the manner in which they wish to become accustomed. So don’t give me your crap.

          • bobnstuff

            Did you say you have three deadbeat brothers? What lies did they tell to get services?

          • TeaPartyPatriot

            They are illegal alliens therefore they don’t have to lie to get the 0webomb and the D’generats to provide them with everything from food and housing to medical care to paid tuition in schools.

          • TeaPartyPatriot

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            .
            Is that what you call illegal aliens? deadbeat? Damn you are a racist Son of a Bitch aren’t YOU.
            .
            .

          • bobnstuff

            I’m saying you have brothers in law that are gaming the system. If they are able bodied and are not working for longer then three years and getting aid from the government or if they are here illegally and getting government money, I don’t care what race they are, a dead beat is a dead beat.

          • TeaPartyPatriot

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            .
            SIMPLE Deport them with e-verify

          • bobnstuff

            Democrats tried to get a bill that made E-verfy the law of the land but the Republicans blocked it. Both Clinton and Trump want it. The problem is that it’s cheaper to pay the fine then pay the wage to an American. Read the present law.

        • bentonsv

          In terms of illegal aliens, yes, he has said repeatedly that they must go. They might be able to come back legally, but they first had to go. He even told this to one of Obama’s “Dreamers” at a campaign rally. This is exactly why I WAS supporting him. If he backs off of this now, he’ll be pulling a “Romney” and absolutely WILL lose to Killary.

          Now in terms of muslim immigration, I believe he’s said that he would halt temporarily all immigration from countries that are known sponsors of Islamic terrorism or have a problem internally with it. Maybe he’s said ALL muslim’s, but I don’t recall that. Frankly I wouldn’t be against that.

          • Ramon1710 .

            As we saw with Romney, once a RINO wins the primary, all those promises made to conservatives get dismissed as “campaign talk”, and it’s time to court the leftists. Winning by playing both sides of the field doesn’t work in tennis, either. Someone tell Karl Rove, unless he doesn’t want his record for losing endangered.

          • bentonsv

            I’m holding off judgement of this article’s claims on Trump’s supposedly shifting illegal alien stance until I see corroboration elsewhere.

            But yes, if he back tracks now. It’ll confirm my worst fears that we have been had yet again. I was concerned something like this would happen when I heard about the firing of his campaign manager.

          • bobnstuff

            In our country we have the first amendment that give all freedom of religion so any law based on one faith is unconstitutional. Also we have many allies that are Muslims. It’s Muslims that are doing most of the fighting and dying in the fight against ISIS. Because just how bad ISIS is no nation supports them and even Iran has come out against them. Trump is playing for the audience and is saying what he think will play well. If you wish to understand ISIS this is the best history I have found so far.
            http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/isis-a-history-how-the-worlds-worst-terror-group-came-to-be/ar-BBncKrR?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=HPCDHP

          • kathy diamond

            bobnstuff, I am Irish & Catholic, there are German Jews, Polish ect. It’s not our fault that Muslims are Muslims. I don’t think of it as religion, hard to do that when they practice Terror. I think of the as Terrorists and that is why I don’t want them in my country.

          • bobnstuff

            Ever heard of Irish Catholic terrorists. Do you remember just a few years back they were the news. Damn Catholics. They aren’t Christian. Any of this sound familiar to you. Maybe you should cut the Muslims a break. My Ex is Irish Catholic so I know what a real terrorist is, LOL

          • kathy diamond

            bobnstuff, CUT THE POOR MUSLIMS A BREAK ?? You are eith out of your mind or stupid. These SOB”S are murdering people around the world including Americans. If you feel the way you say, you should really leave America

          • bentonsv

            Then how do you square your comment with what Jimmy Carter did?

            You know what, our Constitution absolutely protects freedom of religion, even though under the Obama administration its more like freedom of islam. What our Constitution does NOT guarantee is freedom to immigrate. We should be able to limit immigration any way we see fit for the good of the country.

            Allowing muslims into the country wholesale without vetting them is the same thing as throwing out the welcome mat for islamic terrorists. All it takes is a few to cause a whole lot of trouble, strife, and suffering for American citizens.

            And I don’t need to understand ISIS. I know enough already. They want us dead. They want our way of life dead. They want the USA DEAD!!! All I need is to see ISIS and anyone supporting it DEAD!

          • bobnstuff

            Who said they were not going to be vetted? Why do you think it takes over a year before they are let in. Have you looked at the system to let them in or are you just reacting to the miss information out there. You fear ISIS will send in sleepers but so far they haven’t had to and there is no reason for the to take the years to get them through. we grow or own terrorist in our country, we don’t need to import them. Also we have a very long coast line that will never be secure, can’t be done. If ISIS want to send people over here there is little we could do to stop them.

          • bentonsv

            So you can say without a doubt that there are no ISIS sleepers already here? We have a fair number of people right here in the US that have gone off to join ISIS or have attempted to. I’d say they at least have a pretty good recruitment program going on.

          • bobnstuff

            No but so far it’s been home grown. Only one non American citizen. ISIS has an ally in their recruitment program here. Donald Trump. His promoting hate is working very well for ISIS and the KKK.

          • bentonsv

            Actually Obama is the greatest recruiter that ISIS has. And home grown is irrelevant. A member of ISIS is a member of ISIS, no matter where they’re from. The Orlando shooter is a good example.

          • bentonsv

            Considering that Obama is picking up “refugees” by the boatload and turning them loose in America without notifying state or local governments, I’d say he’s made it pretty clear that they won’t be vetted.

            What I’m getting from your last two statements is that we shouldn’t even try to stop ISIS from getting a solid foothold here. Hate to break it to you, but protecting our borders from foreign threats is a primary responsibility of the Federal government, even if its a losing battle. The problem is that in 7.5 years, Obama has shown no interest in having his administration live up to its responsibilities in this regard.

          • bobnstuff

            Where do you get this stuff from? I bet they are trying to sell you gold as an investment. Obama doubled the border patrols and is deporting people at a record rate but you don’t know that do you. When he ask congress for help the said no. Now tell me that the republicans care about immigration or our borders. You really have your facts twisted. I don’t suppose you have heard of all the new military equipment we are getting. New Destroyers new fighter jet, drones, etc. You just need to go look around and see the facts.

          • bentonsv

            Once again I call BS on your deportation claim. Obama has a catch and release policy on illegal aliens. They can’t even keep up with the ones they’ve caught! I’m not going to bother to verify your claim of doubled border patrol because it really doesn’t count if they aren’t doing anything meaningful with them besides turning them loose into the interior.

            http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/deportations-plummet-43-under-obama/

            From the article: “DHS now uses unmarked vehicles to transport them into the interior where they are provided with housing, health care, education, food, clothing and cell phones. They’re given a court date, but there’s no consequences for not showing up.”

            And what does new military equipment have to do with border enforcement? Drones can arguably be used, but I highly doubt that naval vessels and military jets have a primary mission of border enforcement. Unless of course DHS now has its own military assets.

        • raffaelecafagna

          Simple Solution : Enforce E- Verify and they will self-deport .

      • mudguy1

        Wrong Trump said that he would ban Muslims TEMPORALLY until they could figure out who they were.

        • bobnstuff

          Not his first statement. It was only 24 words long and said nothing about Temporally, just banning all Muslims. You got to keep up if you want to know were he stands. It’s ever changing. The Temporally was added on statement number three. he is now on Muslim stand number six. He tends to say thinks without thinking or doing his homework and then when the facts show up he has to change what he says and will claim he never said the first thing. Once he gets to some facts next he sees how it plays then he adjusts it again. He has done this on almost everything he has said.

          • kathy diamond

            BOBNSTUFF, you’re wrong

          • bobnstuff

            You are right, He did add until we can figure out what’s happening. I stand corrected. I would have sworn he said it in the afternoon of the 7th in a tweet but I must be wrong. It really doesn’t matter now since he has changed it five more times.

      • kathy diamond

        bobnstuff, UNTIL WE GET A BETTER VETTING SYSTEM IN PLACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • kathy diamond

      TeaPartyPatroit, I am a Trump Follower, Very Dedicated but he does want the Illegals that are in this country ILLEGALLY to go back & come back legally. It’s the right thing to do.

      • TeaPartyPatriot

        .
        I don’t deny that he wants all illegals out of the country BUT I do not recall him saying he would round them up and forceably deport them.

    • raffaelecafagna

      you are uninformed . Trump said : Illegals get out of my Land , come the Legal way ; stop all Benefits to illegals , stop sending $$$ to Mexico , Build the Wall . Price of Illegal Immigration = $ 220 B. x year ; all paid by American taxpayers . Inform yourself .

      • TeaPartyPatriot

        .
        there is NOTHING in my post that contradicts what you posted . I don’t recall TRUMP EVER EVER saying he would deport illegal aliens. He wants them out of our land but he never said he would forceably deport them. He is looking for them to self deport.

        • raffaelecafagna

          Thank you ; now we understand each other . Illegals go home .

  • Tiger

    No he hasn’t pulled back. He is saying what he said from the start and congress is agreeing with him and there are bills in the making right now based on what he said. What he says is nobody from countries that sponsor terrorism will be allowed into America. Nobody. That makes sense. I saw the list of the countries that are filled with terrorists like Al Shabaab, Somalia etc and guess what folks, those top countries for terrorists is what O has been bringing into our country by the hordes. So again we see what this Traitor in the WH has done to us.

    This ban will have nothing to do with religion, it has to do solely with the countries participation in support of terrorism. To be honest there is an “Alien Threat” clause in our immigration laws that clearly states any people, group of people or even people of a certain belief that is contrary to our laws or Constitution or that threatens the people of the U.S. can be rounded up and immediately deported.

    You know folks when I was growing-up no Muslim problems, none, no problems with any immigrants, they came here legally, didn’t threaten us, we didn’t have to spend billions to have Homeland Security to protect us from them, now Muslims and Islam center of attention and not a day goes by that we don’t see, hear or learn of more pain and suffering at their hands.

    Wake-up Islam is a problem. Take a look at our laws and see if you honestly believe that Islam has a place in America. The Qur’an and Sharia Law are incompatible with our Constitution and laws. Example women who come here wear the rags all over them and tent, they don’t drive, they live here the same as they do in the ME why come here?

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182#

    • dontdoitagain

      Well written Tiger.

    • James Maxwell

      Said much better than I could have Tiger, good job.

      • Tiger

        Thank you. Boy what a nice day on the net so far.

    • You did well with your research, Tiger. Keep up the good work. People need to know the truth even if they think it isn’t the truth. They too, as I have been saying for almost 8 years now, 24/7, that they need to do their own research to get to the truth. To learn more about Hillary, they need to get the new book that her Secret Service agent wrote that will be out soon.

      • Tiger

        Thank you so much. I have learned so much because before I open my mouth in a debate I want to get it right.

        Here is something you might like. Trump has every right to get Muslims out of America.

        This from another poster I am sharing and hope you will also. I learned about this watching the congressional debates on refugees and illegals.

        raffaelecafagna

        3 hours ago

        DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS LAW? … Islam, by law, is PROHIBITED from US immigration …
        The Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to
        immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which
        became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the
        immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it
        covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to
        the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the
        United States by “force, violence, or other unconstitutional means.” This, by
        its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States, but this law is
        being ignored by the White House.Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under
        this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to
        Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic.
        All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life’s guiding principal subscribe to
        submission to Islam and its form of government. Now the political correct crowd would say
        that Islamists cannot be prohibited from entering the US because Islam is a religion.
        Whether it is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are
        affiliated with any “organization” that advocates the overthrow of our
        government are prohibited.

        • Very good. Yes, this still stands and those in Government that ignore it are going against the law and our Constitution. I hope someone is paying attention and taking note on those that are breaking the law and will do something about it.

          • Tiger

            If we get our country back, and we are indeed losing it everyday, those traitors in congress will be remembered.

          • Absolutely!

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      • HadEnough

        tarbella, I too get aggravated because people won’t research and become informed. Then they vote Stupid. When voting they go by stupid things like I like him, or her because they “smile a lot” — or I don’t like this one, because it “is a woman” — and other silly things. It’s no wonder we’re in this NIGHTMARE because they vote wrong.

        • I agree. People need to be informed and do research to see the truth. But, the ones that want freebies, which we’re paying for…don’t care to be informed and vote just the way you said, stupid!

          • HadEnough

            So very True.

          • Going into town the other day, my husband and I noticed a stand set up by a tree with a women having phones to give out. Here they go again.

          • HadEnough

            Yes, it’s so very disturbing.

    • raffaelecafagna

      DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS LAW? … Islam, by law, is PROHIBITED from US immigration …
      The Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to
      immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which
      became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the
      immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it
      covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to
      the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the
      United States by “force, violence, or other unconstitutional means.” This, by
      its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States, but this law is
      being ignored by the White House.Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under
      this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to
      Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic.
      All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life’s guiding principal subscribe to
      submission to Islam and its form of government. Now the political correct crowd would say
      that Islamists cannot be prohibited from entering the US because Islam is a religion.
      Whether it is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are
      affiliated with any “organization” that advocates the overthrow of our
      government are prohibited.

      • CharlieSeattle

        Not correct.

        The 1965 revision to the Immigration and Nationality Act opened the floodgates to people from Asia and Latin America, and the Middle East.

        http://cis.org/1965ImmigrationAct-MassImmigration

        For the first time, gave higher preference to the relatives of American citizens and permanent resident aliens than to applicants with special job skills. The preference system for visa admissions detailed in the law (modified in 1990) was as follows:

        1. Unmarried adult sons and daughters of U.S. citizens.

        2. Spouses and children and unmarried sons and daughters of permanent resident aliens.

        3. Members of the professions and scientists and artists of exceptional ability.

        4. Married children of U.S. citizens.

        5. Brothers and sisters of U.S. citizens over age twenty-one.

        6. Skilled and unskilled workers in occupations for which there is insufficient labor supply.

        ~~~~~~~~~~ IMPORTANT CHANGE HERE ~~~~~~~~~~
        7. Refugees given conditional entry or adjustment — chiefly people from Communist countries and the Middle East.
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        8. Applicants not entitled to preceding preferences — i.e., everyone else.

        Change in Source Countries of Immigrants

        Despite the protestations of the 1965 act’s sponsors, the sources of immigration have changed radically. This is partly due to the fact that there are fewer people in Europe are seeking to leave, now that most countries there are modern and industrialized.
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IMPORTANT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        The ending of the national origins quotas opened the doors to mass entry of people from Asia and Latin America (regions where people are far more likely to want to emigrate), and the law’s emphasis on family reunification ensured that those through the door first would be able to bring in their relatives, freezing out potential immigrants from Europe and from other developing nations.
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        That is why the muslim goat fukers are here now!

        • raffaelecafagna

          Please Read : . That act, which
          became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the
          immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it
          covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to
          the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the
          United States by “force, violence, or other unconstitutional means.”

          • CharlieSeattle

            The Traitor in the WH and his muslim brotherhood administration ignore Public Law 414 and ALL THE OTHERS.

            The Traitor in the WH and his muslim brotherhood administration continue to flood the USA with muslims.

            Congress is complicit in that treason because they fully funded the muslim resettlement in the Cromnibus spending bill.

          • CharlieSeattle

            …Laws? …Laws you say??

            The Traitor in the WH and his muslim brotherhood administration don’t follow no stinkin laws!

      • Tiger

        Yes I do know about it and I learned about it listening to the congressional hearings on the illegals and refugees. You are 100% right and Trump will know about this soon enough.

        Great Great Post. Please get it out everywhere and I will also.

        Thank you so much.

        • raffaelecafagna

          Thank You , my friend and be safe always .

          • Tiger

            You also. I have been comparing with a fellow fighter on here the fact we are thrown off so many sites now or if we do post spam comes up, our computers get hit left and right, we can’t even Esc and have to reboot.

            Think I said something to P um off? ;p

      • Tiger

        And here is why the UK got out of the EU. Did you know the Muslim Mayor of London is threatening Donald Trump saying if he doesn’t accept Islam and stop with the Muslim stuff there will be violence. Can you believe that? He said much more wonder how much he will be saying when they remove his Mussie arse.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9fI_u11trA

        • raffaelecafagna

          Yes indeed and I stay Informed ; cnn , abc, msn , etc. etc. they are diarrhea . I watch Lou Dobbs on Fox Business ; he`s the Only one speaking the Truth .

          • Tiger

            Oh me also love Dobbs and I like Varney and a few others. I lived in Europe, the Orient and been to the ME and sometimes when things going on, like Snake Dances by Communists in Okinawa burning cars etc. and so I knew the truth and when I saw American news reporting on it that did it for me.

            I always go to the International news. I absolutely love how stunned the leaders in the UK were at the enormous numbers who turned out to vote LEAVE, those silent majority kept quiet, didn’t tell anyone anything and then BAMM KABOOOM POW.

            Loved it hope same thing happens with Trump. We take um down.

    • Donnie Buchanan

      You have it right. There is also a constitutional state right that says that states can deny entry of any person they choose. It is never used (that I know of), but it is available.

      • Tiger

        Thank you yes I am learning so much about our immigration laws and when watching the congressional debates on the illegals and the refugees I was floored at what O is doing.

        Here is why the UK left the EU and before we get to this we will leave H and O the HO administration behind.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9fI_u11trA

    • HadEnough

      Tiger, thank you for the information, at first, I was a little worried that he wasn’t going to ban them. Like you, I have read 2 or 3 articles that stated a Muslim Immigration Freeze is Not Unconstitutional. And yes in my growing up, there was no Muslims, Terrorists, or whatever there is today. And UNTIL obama, the US did not have Muslims, Illegal Immigration, and Terrorists. Thanks to him and his minions, now it is not even safe to go out in public. Then, again, it’s not even safe inside your house. You were talking about the women who come here. I have never seen such hateful, overbearing mean women as the Muslim women. I would think that since their men treat them so horribly, that they would be thankful to be free in our society, but no, they are not thankful. I can’t get over how they come here, start bossing us around, they fight with the police, they sue us, and what really ticks me off, is that they DEMAND everything. I can’t take much more of this INSANITY, we need Trump NOWwww

      • Tiger

        Excellent post HadEnough, excellent. My daughter lives in an area that once was the tourist heaven for foreigners in Florida and now it is overwhelmed with Muslims, wearing their tents and the last time we went there the foreigners we talked to said: “We came here to get away from these people and you have as many as we do.”

        During Christmas my daughter and her children and their friends went ice skating and she knows they don’t celebrate Christmas. She said they overwhelmed the rink in their rags and they pushed and shoved and yes they are arrogant, ingrates who need to be sent back where they came from. They are the reason the UK left the EU recently. I keep up with that and they have had enough.

        Matter of fact, we live in Florida after the Orlando slaughter O brought 441 Syrians into the U.S. and he put half of them in Florida and right smack dab in Orlando. Because our Governor spilled the beans on him saying, he brings them to Florida, won’t tell our governor where they are putting them, who they are or how many. He does this all over America.

        If you look at a map of our country you will see he has Somali around our entire perimeter in our big cities and all the others from the worst countries spread in our interior.

        Yes we are through.

    • dmttbt

      We see what the traitor in the WH has done and we have representatives in Washington D C who are suppose to represent us. Did they see what was happening or are they too busy spending more money than the tax payers will ever be able to pay?
      How do the things obama has done get past the so called honorable a holes in the congress and the senate??? Have we gone all these years and our representatives didn’t know the border was suppose to be closed?? It is now election time and the politicians are coming out saying they are for border closure and all the things they should have already done. I say if there is anyone running against an incumbent I will vote for them and if not I will write in Donald Duck and vote for him.
      They are saying they don’t know if Trump can be trusted. That is one thing we don’t have to worry about with them, we know they cannot be trusted.

      • Tiger

        Last sentence a total winner of the day and should be used in a Trump add against this bunch of vipers.

        All those weasels pulled the wool over our eyes, promising to stop O if we elected them, I remember their speeches then how they turned on us.

        Here is a rough video but I tell you now we MUST STOP MEN refugees coming into America and deport all those Iraqi, Somali, Afghani, Tunisian, Kenyan now, immediately.

        This is what they would love to do.
        http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/graphic-footage-of-actual-muslim-slaughterhouse-for-christian-organs-released/

  • NJ Lady

    “To thine own self be true, Donald!”

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