Trump Cabinet Stocked With Conservatives for Thanksgiving

November 24, 2016

President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday selected two prominent Republican women for Cabinet-level positions, adding diversity to an inner circle that was already coming under fire for being composed mostly of white men.

In a potentially controversial choice, Trump intends to nominate billionaire philanthropist Betsy DeVos for education secretary, turning to a conservative activist who has forcefully pushed for private school voucher programs. Her nomination is expected to face strong opposition from public school advocates, who oppose her efforts to funnel taxpayer dollars from public to private and religious schools.

“Betsy DeVos is a brilliant and passionate education advocate,” Trump said in a statement. “Under her leadership we will reform the U.S. education system and break the bureaucracy that is holding our children back so that we can deliver world-class education and school choice to all families.”

Hours earlier, Trump had announced that he will fill the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations slot with South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, a rising Republican star and daughter of Indian immigrants who has virtually no foreign policy experience.

170 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • CharlieSeattle says:

    I modified my red hat to read….

    #MakeTrumpGreat Again!

    Trump must uphold ALL his pre-election promises!
    Must we patriots march and protest LOUDLY in the streets now?

    Trump has not even taken office yet and in his own words, he has backed off 80% of what his supporters wanted, and 50% of what he promised.

    Trump said he will leave 10 million of the 12 million illegal aliens here, not convicted of crimes, to compete for American jobs……………that supports globalism.

    Trump said he will NOT deport tens of thousands of muslim RAPEfugees here now………….that supports globalism and domestic terror attacks.

    Trump said he will NOT end the H-1b visa programs or deport the tens of thousands of Hindu’s here now taking American jobs……………..that supports globalism.

    Trump said he will deport ONLY 2 million “criminal ilegal aliens” and leave all the rest (listed above) here, with us inside a wall he said he will build.

    But I suppose 20% of something under Trump is better that 100% of nothing under Clinton.

    …………….Still tearing up yet with Trump Pride?

    ………………………..Excuse me, if I am underwhelmed!

    1. CharlieSeattle says:

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  • A natural born American says:

    RINO nikki haley.

  • AKLady2015 says:

    Any bets on how quicly Trump wil bring us to the brink of WW III?
    Which fo the Bill of Rights will he invlidate first?

    1. Retired says:

      Spreading false stories is your best action.You sore losers are all alike, the man is not in office yet and you have him starting WW3 , why do you lie like this ??

  • DrBillLemoine says:

    In fairness, Mrs. DeVos wants to siphon more public tax money for education into private business hands; those children left behind in her voucher program face shortchanging with less funds. Charter schools are proven no better than comparable public schools and are often highly selective so they should do better. The real answer is in the community schools type participation of parents and community in schools. The local school public should select goals for their own children, hire teachers and administrators to implement curriculum that matches, and periodically measure results for guidance and improvement, not teacher pay or discipline. It’s worked in my city schools and the State of New Jersey. When people are involved in public schools, students perform better and parents support them.

    1. wordwaryor says:

      Current public schools not working. Anerica was built when kids went to school in the church building and one textbook was the bible. So local control of education should be better than the one size fits all Common Core Wash DC interference and social indoctrination that Leftists are pushing.

      1. DrBillLemoine says:

        It’s up to each individual state to adopt or reject any curriculum, define teacher qualifications and fund schools. Any problems you find should be referred to local and state school boards. What makes a nation is often its common experience, namely public schools. You yearn for a bygone world. This is the new millennium in a faster, smaller, more connected globe. Get up to speed or be left behind. Nobody wants to go backwards to more primitive schools–or anything else.

    2. NM Leon says:

      Charter schools allow parents the choice to keep their kids from the pernicious influence of worthless teachers such as yourself.

      1. DrBillLemoine says:

        Public charter schools can be valuable, where ordinary school boards neglect to provide options for all students. Student selection, state regulations and use of public funds are all important. Sorry you found ‘worthless’ teachers in your schooling; speak to your school board about it for your kids.

        1. NM Leon says:

          My nephew (who I raised) had a Science teacher who was teaching that fish were amphibians (among other fallacies). You bet I raised hell over it with the president of the school board, a personal friend of mine. The board decided they couldn’t fire her because it would cost probably more than $100,000 and 3 to 5 years to fight the NEA. In a charter school she would likely have been summarily fired.

          In the ’90s we (NM) passed a law that all teachers had to be able to pass the tests at the grade level they taught. A 6th grade teacher had to be able to pass 6th grade tests etc. 25% of teachers failed three attempts. At least we got rid of the 25% that were clearly incompetent, right? No…100% of the failures were grandfathered in.

          I say only half joking that we should fire half the public school teachers based on competency and double the pay for the half remaining.

          Personally I would rather see the whole system vouchered, but charter schools are a more likely option and work for me. Give parents a choice over where they can send their kids. In many areas that will overwhelmingly be the existing public school, but for some they can send their kids to another school of their choice.

          1. DrBillLemoine says:

            I’d be concerned with your school board and administration more than incompetent teachers. Somebody must hire them and grant them tenure. It’s true that teachers must keep up in their fields, an inservice function of school boards as much as individual teachers. Get after those officials to prevent such problems only encountered with one college teaching program in my lifetime. A school administrator was hired as Dean of education there and teacher candidates/scores improved over time. People/teachers rise to their challenges and standards IF required. Your school superintendent is a lazy chicken failing to build the cases against incompetents, a problem I never had. Depending on your location, the availability of teacher candidates may be limited, but there’s a thing called ‘Teach America’ to call on; also pressure on the feeder teacher program is more a problem than the teacher(s) per se. The money is doable over time as you don’t want to disrupt faculty morale, teaching staffs, or other intangibles.
            Your plan as with nominee Betsy DeVos takes time over years and should not penalize public school financing, a form of legal discrimination. In most of the nation public schools are fine; you face an unusual situation and should clean house, top down, not the reverse. Tenure laws don’t protect incompetents which may or may not be measured by tests. There are 1000s of other factors in good teaching. Choice is mostly offered for reasons of bigotry, segregation, and factors not related to public schools; or, your state needs big changes in education governance.

      2. Mike says:

        Wish you could be a fly on the wall of the school bus, watching your perfect little child, see the monster you have made, students only learn when they become engaged with what they are doing, If a child does not have respect for their teacher it’s because they have been taught to be disobedient to adults, that’s the parents fault, no teacher will want to teach a child that considers themselves to be an equal and deserve respect,. Children need to be molded into mind hungry learning machines, they will fall short if they don’t have respect for the adult teaching what needs to be taught. Like the student that had received a 90% grade on a paper in math class even though he had all the answers correct, he didn’t respect the teacher and because he was not paying attention did not heed the warning to place the staple in the top left corner of the page on a 45 degree angle one inch down and one inch over. Teaching a child to fallow directions is and will always be the best way to create a mind that can achieve higher education. Tool makers follow the instructions to the letter and to the thousandth of an inch.

        1. NM Leon says:

          The “monsters I have made” include an E-6 medically discharged (with purple heart) from the Army (my oldest nephew), and his little brother (who I also raised) and their sister (who I also raised), and they are all very admirable and successful adults (though the “little brother has had some “challenges” in the past).

          1. Mike says:

            Apparently you have taught your children the value of respect. Great job !

          2. Mike says:

            There is a time and a place to ask if a alternative solution is possible, in my view kids need to accept what is being taught and learn the lesson the way it’s being taught, don’t challenge the teacher on the reason for the lesson, do what the teacher asks, then after if the child wants to suggest a different approach let it be heard, the entire class room is being taught by a teacher not just one student, children need to fallow instructions. The time to challenge a lesson is after the challenge not before, it wastes time and it hurts the direction the teacher has in mind. Hey If your little NO neck monster has more to give than the teacher, take the child out of school and start a new school,were your kid can be the teacher. Settle down Jonny !

    3. Mike says:

      This is a complete retort of my experience as a bus driver for a so called charter school, truthfully and to the point,. I was told these students were hand picked to be a cut above the rest, they proved to be a serious huge cut below the rest and not worth the expense of a so called higher education, they were condescending non reachable racist disobedient little bigoted bastards. And I’m sugar coating my words. They actually were no better than the students I took to the traid schools,you know the type the ones that could not function in a public school around other more progressive students, I put in three years as a driver until I HAD ENOUGH, one afternoon I overheard a fifth grade boy explain what he wanted to do to one of the fourth grade girls on the bus, and that’s when I threw in the towel. This type of debauchery can only be taught by example, The parents of the youths going to our inner schools are to blame for the future of this land they have failed their children in moral fortitude to the point of nonexistents, they are going to grow up, to become, WHAT ?

      1. DrBillLemoine says:

        Your anecdotal observations are often closer to the truth than charter school and voucher advocates admit. The first home school parent was in my public school pta, persuaded the legislature to let her teach kids at home–to avoid mixing with black students; pure bigotry and racism. It’s the same for many charter school boards and managers though the reasons vary by location. Big city charters are often segregationist in motives from my viewpoint though some disadvantaged students’ parents think charters can offer better education–not proven the case by research. I refused to be a principal for a large charter school movement in one state because of the covert biases behind many charters.
        Remember the first educators in a child’s life are his/her parents and that’s often impossible to overcome in attitudes and behaviors in school. Their best chance for normal development is public schools where they have many and varied specialists to deal with such problems as your 5th grader who you should report. BTW it’s not all inner city schools, parents and students who are the problem, but that’s where white parents start agitating for segregation found in charters and via vouchers. There is no training for parenthood, but circumstances and environment play a large part in children’s development as well, a reason for some white flight. Thanks for the report.

    4. Retired says:

      The real problem is the Educators Unions that prevent the firing of bad teachers as well as the lack of respect for teachers by parents and students.

  • Mike says:

    I have no problem with the appointment of governor haley. I think she is an excellent choice. Ms. Dec is on the other hand is terrible. we need to help our public schools not gut them like she has advocated for before

    1. Pete says:

      Decades of failure after hundreds of millions in funding has proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the “grand” centralized education system is not working. Even if you don’t personally like it, it;s time to do what has worked in the past. The local school is more qualified to decide what is best for little John & Jane than some political hack in Washington DC.

  • PPTA says:

    His picks are all good, except for Romney. Romney is a Globalist.

    1. Mike says:

      I just don’t get it, I guess maybe he needs to keep his enemy’s closer to the firing-squad than oblamma kept the Hilderbeast. Simply put I would tell Romney If you Fuck up, we Hang you for treason !

      1. Pete says:

        Romney is a media darling since they firmly believe he will destroy the Trump presidency from within. There are still elements of the GOP that want Trump to fail (so they can say “I told you so!!) & are pushing for a Romney appointment.
        I don’t think Trump is ignorant of those facts & knows what he is doing, we will see.

      2. AKLady2015 says:

        Nirsery shool name calling.
        Someone failed English class.

    2. AKLady2015 says:

      His picks are all as ignorant as he is.
      Thwy are also just as racist and bigoted.

      1. Retired says:

        There you go again spreading lies again. Bitterness will put you in a early grave.

        1. AKLady2015 says:

          Case Name United States v. Fred C. Trump, Donald Trump, and Trump Management, Inc. FH-NY-0024 Docket / Court 73-1529 ( E.D.N.Y. ) State/Territory New York Case Type(s) Fair Housing/Lending/Insurance
          Attorney Organization U.S. Dept. of Justice Civil Rights Division

          There are alomat 200 more. just like this one.
          There are almost 4,000 civil auits.

          1. Retired says:

            Educated people do not change the subject like you do. You are a bitter sore loser like most democrats that supported the most Racist President that served the US.

          2. AKLady2015 says:

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you

  • clem says:

    I notice that none of the women that show up for their “job interviews” with Pres. elect Trump, show up in pants suits, coughing uncontrollably and passing out.

    1. Pete says:

      No broom pilots in the lot!!

    2. AKLady2015 says:

      Someone who is so dedicated to their country, they continue to work even when others would take a sick day.
      Have you used all your sick days?
      Oh, that is right, you have one of those loe paying jobs that does not come with benefits.

      1. Mike says:

        Having Trump as president is hope that most jobs will be better paying than they are at the present time, now to answer your reply, the Hilderbeast is what she is ,a beast . And oblamo is the way I wish to spell it. And finally to answer you, the only bigot I can see In these tweets is you , the only Racists I see is also you,. And you coming to the defense of the Hilderbeast for working when she should have taken a sick day, in fact she has had so much time off to recharge her battery’s as it were, is yet proof that she is mortality ill and that in it self disqualifies her as becoming president, here is something you didn’t think of, we the people demand the person stepping into the position of president be healthy enough to last a minimum of four years, and work for the people of this country, not some rich group of ASS holes who are hell bent on taking our freedom as a Nation away from us . NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT .
        And finally all the low paying jobs you make mention of, they ARE AS A RESALT of the sick fuck herself and her sick rapist husband billy blue balls Clinton. So Shut The Fuck UP , You are now SPAM I WILL NOT SEE YOUR REPLYS SO DON’T BOTHER…..

        1. AKLady2015 says:

          Name calling is what it is — childish.
          May your life be toatally free of germs, even those which you cannot live wirhout.

          1. Retired says:

            What a childish post from someone claiming to be educated.

      2. Retired says:

        More lies and BS from the troll Queen.

  • Not_Easily_Impressed says:

    She could be the first female POTUS.

    1. ArcticGrayling says:

      One hell of a lot more accomplished than a political whore like Killary.

      1. MoonBeamWatcher says:

        or HORSE FACE!

        1. AKLady2015 says:

          Name calling is childish.
          Most give it up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.
          Temper, temper …
          You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

      2. AKLady2015 says:

        Sewer language.
        Your parents did a very bad job of teaching you
        right from wrong.

        1. ArcticGrayling says:

          I didn’t destroy evidence that was under subpoena. Hillary did.

          Years ago, she even got canned from The Watergate Inquiry when she removed and “lost” evidence that was relevant to the enquiry.

          If anybody ever tried to teach that bitch right from wrong, she never learned it. And since she was running for public office and I wasn’t, that is what is relevant.

          1. AKLady2015 says:

            Hillary did not destroy evidence under subpoena.

            She was not fired from Watergate — She never worked for Jerry Zeifman, he admitted that he lied.

            Are there any more lies you would like to repeat?

          2. sassy frasse says:

            she did destroy evidence under subpoena.

          3. AKLady2015 says:

            Hillary did not destroy evidence under subpoena.

            Are there any more lies you would like to repeat?

  • Not_Easily_Impressed says:

    What good does foreign policy experience do anyway? What is the evidence either way? It sounds to me like a good way to symbolically tell the United Nations how important they are as in “we don’t need another foreign policy guru representing us in the UN.”

    1. ArcticGrayling says:

      Foreign policy experience has given us a close alliance with the likes of Sodomy Arabia, and in the case of the Indo Paki wars from years ago, foreign policy exprience gave us an alliance with Pukeistan.

      We can do without alliances with Mohamadista goat fuckers. It would be best to let them all swim in their caca and let them kill each other.

      1. AKLady2015 says:

        Why do you insult America’s allies?
        Name calling is extremely infantile.

        1. Retired says:

          Al those countries Milked Billions of Dollar from the US and all we got in return was filled body bags.

          1. AKLady2015 says:

            As usual, you have put ypur fingers in motion before engaging your brain. A few of Ameroca’s allies: Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Uzbekistan, Bahrain, Myanmar, Azerbaijan, Ethiopia, Vietnam, Tajikistan, Rwanda, Cambodia, Honduras, Uganda, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Kyrgyzstan, Kenya, Rwanda, Djibouti, Morocco, Kazakhstan and Turkey.

          2. Retired says:

            You forgot the seventies when the Arabs stuck it to the US. Limited gas and days you could buy gas plus restricted to how many gallons one could buy.

          3. AKLady2015 says:

            Actually, it was about time the people of the Middle East put an end to Western dominance. South America did the same, only much earlier.

            We should thank them. Our petroleum industry has developed nicely. It provides Americna jobs. In fact we are now a net petroleum product exporter.

          4. ArcticGrayling says:

            Not much chance of those Mideast sand niggers accomplishing much on their own. They have been sitting on that oil from time immemorial, but they needed the infidel to show them how to get the oil out of the ground.

            Praying 5 times a day didn’t teach them how to be petroleum engineers.

            And remember, a billion Muslims are too stupid to defeat a few million Jews, and that dumb bastard Allah does nothing about it.

            Maybe instead of fucking goats the Arabs should pray 10 times a day. Maybe Allah will listen then.

          5. AKLady2015 says:

            You embarass America.

          6. AKLady2015 says:

            You are refering to the OPEC members, They are not all Arab. They are Algeria, Angola, Ecuador, Gabon, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Nigeria. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Venezuela. Put your religous bigotry away and get an education.

          7. Retired says:

            All countries that are run by a form of dictators that have milked the US taxpayer for decades. You are the biggest BIGOT in Alaska.

          8. AKLady2015 says:

            Better money than lives.
            Get an education.

          9. Retired says:

            What makes you think that what you studied from Commie liberal schools is correct??

          10. AKLady2015 says:

            I tested out of AS, Charter Oak College, State of Connecticut.
            I tested out of BS, Charter Oak College, State of Connecticut
            M.D. Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences
            MBA, Cardinal Stritch College, Wisconsin.
            CEU – U.S.D.A. Graduate School.
            CEU – University of South Carolina, School of edicine

            CEU – University o Wisconsin

          11. Retired says:

            Like I said , once a commie Democrat you can not see what is on the other side.

          12. AKLady2015 says:

            ..Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          13. Retired says:

            Blah blah is highly intelligent.

          14. AKLady2015 says:

            One speaks to a person in language the listener can easily understand.

          15. Retired says:

            There is no hope for you with the lies that are posted.

          16. AKLady2015 says:

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          17. Retired says:

            You make Edith Bunker look good.

          18. AKLady2015 says:

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          19. Retired says:

            Can’t handle facts??

          20. Retired says:

            So what is that supposed to do , prove Brain smart and common sense stupid ??

          21. AKLady2015 says:

            Keep those insults coming.
            If you stoped being ignroant and rude,
            I might feel neglected.

          22. Retired says:

            Not a insult, just a fact there are a lot of people that are brain smart and common sense stupid. Just look at what has happened to the US since LBJ took over.

          23. AKLady2015 says:

            Keep those insults coming.
            If you stopped being ignorant and rude,
            I might feel neglected.

          24. Retired says:

            You do not know the truth from a lie, just like you can not handle the truth.

          25. AKLady2015 says:

            You preach religious hate and you call ,e a bigot. Really?

            Countries run by dictators? Maybe you should revise that statement.

            Try countries run by dictators put in office by the U.S. Government and supported by the U.S., Taxpayer.

          26. Retired says:

            You are the Bigot that keeps on bringing up religion, typical Democrat. But you support those that interfeer in foreign governments.

          27. Shane says:

            Muslims don’t make allies with infidels countries unless they really need something from them Mo told his followers to only make alliances with infidels if it is necessary. When the alliances are no longer needed, Muslims will wage jihad on their former allies.

          28. AKLady2015 says:

            And your xpert source is what?
            Cite chapter and verse.

          29. ArcticGrayling says:

            We would be better off if most of those countries were not allies, especially the ones inhabited by goat fucker sand niggers.

          30. AKLady2015 says:

            America would be much better off without ignroant, religious bigots such as yourself.

            The first casulaty in American Revolution was Muslim.
            The first country to recognize our Nation was Muslim. Tangier is home to the oldest U.S. diplomatic property in the world.

            Wthout Morocco’s assistance, America may not have won the Revolution. Sultan Mohammed III protected Amerian shipping. He also permitted military equipment and weapons to be brought throgh Mprocco and loaded upon American ships docked at Tangier.

          31. AKLady2015 says:

            Actually, we milked them of billions of $ dollars — it was called cheap oil, cheap minerals, cheap labor …

          32. Retired says:

            Why do you lie and protect those that milk the taxpayer.

          33. AKLady2015 says:

            Why do you lie about America’s alliies?

          34. Retired says:

            If they were our Allies there would be peace in the Middle East- Far East as well as South America. All they want is our Tax Dollars.

          35. AKLady2015 says:

            Educate yourself. You have np knowledge of which you speak.

        2. ArcticGrayling says:

          Not nearly as infantile as problems with enemy identification.

          Those countries you name are not anybody’s friends. They are goat fucking sand niggers whose only loyalty is to their bastard Allah guy.

          Screw them all.

          1. AKLady2015 says:

            Allah is the word GOD in the ARABIC LANGUAGE.
            You have just insulted every Arabic speaking Jew, Chrisitan, Hindu, Druze, Sikh, Carholic, Baptist ….

          2. ArcticGrayling says:

            Arabic speaking Hindus and Sikhs? If they are speaking Arabic, it’s only at the point of the Muslim sword. Hindus and Sikhs, highly civilized and talented people, are historic enemies of Muslims.

            Few people have suffered so much at the hands of Muslims as have Hindus. Tens of millions of Hindus were murdered by Muslims in their conquest of India. Even within my lifetime several million Hindus were murdered in Bangladesh.

            As for insults, it’s shithead Allah who refers to non Muslims as “pigs and monkeys” (verse 5-60).

            So I will dish out insults to that Arab bastard Allah all I want. I don’t need your permission either.

            Up yours with your political correctness.

          3. AKLady2015 says:

            You have no idea as to which you speak.

            One is a Middle Eastern language and the other is a religion. All Muslims do not speak Aranbic. All Arabic speakers are not Muslim.

            Put your religous bigotry away and get an education.

          4. ArcticGrayling says:

            The reverse is true. Connecting Hindus and Sikhs to the language of sand niggers is ignorant.

            Hindus speak Hindi and Sikhs speak Punjabi, and you can be damn sure that their god is not shithead Allah. In fact, Hindus are polytheists, which is the main reason that sand niggers like to kill them.

          5. AKLady2015 says:

            Your hate and lies are as ignorant as it comes.
            Your name calling is as childish as it comes.
            Your religious bigotry is as un American as it comes.
            Your division of language and people by religion is extremely invalid. Islam is the world’s second largest religion.

            Allah is the Arabic word for God.
            Allah is not the name of a God.

            There are Arsbic-English Dictionaries published on the Internet. Use one. Educate yourself. Stop embarassing America.

          6. ArcticGrayling says:

            I don’t care if Islam is followed by every person on earth except me.

            Islam in my judgment is evil, and I am free to say so. I can apply any appellation to any of its beliefs or those that follow them that I wish.

            Allah is the universal god but can only receive prayers in Arabic? I will call a stupid bastard like that any names that I wish.

            I don’t need anybody’s permission.

          7. AKLady2015 says:

            Who taught you these lies you keep spouting? That is wht they are, lies. What stops you from looking up fact and truth? You have an Internet connection.

            Islam honors Jesus as a prophet. Islam honors Jesus’ mother, Mary. In fact, the Koran dedicates an entire chapter to Mary.

            Isuspect you are not aware that it was 13 Chatholic Bishops who decided Jesus was a God? That took place in 325 AD.

            I suggest you check out what the Holy Bible has to say about blasphemy. No, you do not need anyone’s permission to sin. However, you will need God’s forgiveness.

          8. ArcticGrayling says:

            The Koran also teaches that non believers and idol worshippers should be murdered. Verse 9-5.

            It also relegates Christians and Jews to second class status. Verse 9-29.

            So allah can kiss my ass.

          9. AKLady2015 says:

            Kill infidels in the Bible: Deuteronomy 13:6, Deuteronomy 13: 13, Deuteronomy 17:3, 2 Chronicles 15:13, Leviticus 20:27, Matthew 15:1-9, Romans 1:20-32, and Matthew 5:42-44.

            There is more, but that should educate you a bit better.

            Nowhere in the Quran did God say to kill innocent unbelievers. Provide proof for your claim.

          10. ArcticGrayling says:

            Hadith and Sira

            The most reliable Hadith collection contain numerous accounts of Muhammad and his companions putting people to death for leaving Islam. According to verse 4:80 of the Quran: “Those who obey the Messenger obey Allah.”

            Sahih Bukhari (52:260) – “…The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ”

            Sahih Bukhari (83:37) – “Allah’s Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate.”

          11. AKLady2015 says:

            Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

          12. AKLady2015 says:

            “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

          13. ArcticGrayling says:

            The topic here is what is contained in Islamic scripture. Nothing that another book says will disprove anything I say about shithead Allah.

          14. AKLady2015 says:

            Allah is the Arabic word for God. The God of Abraham. It is not the name of a God.

            You commit blasphemy. You are cursing the very God you worship. God does not change, but languages do.

          15. AKLady2015 says:

            A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

          16. AKLady2015 says:

            If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

          17. ArcticGrayling says:

            Allah is a bastard.

          18. AKLady2015 says:

            God is not, but you certainly are, ignroant too boot.

          19. AKLady2015 says:

            If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

          20. AKLady2015 says:

            A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

          21. ArcticGrayling says:

            Muhammad’s mother was a whore

          22. AKLady2015 says:

            Does insulting the world’s second largest religion make you feel special?

          23. AKLady2015 says:

            If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

          24. AKLady2015 says:

            Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

            Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

          25. AKLady2015 says:

            Kill Followers of Other Religions.

            1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

          26. AKLady2015 says:

            Death for Blasphemy

            One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

          27. AKLady2015 says:

            Kill Nonbelievers

            They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

          28. AKLady2015 says:

            Death to Followers of Other Religions

            Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

          29. AKLady2015 says:

            Verse 9-29
            Sahih International: Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

          30. ArcticGrayling says:

            So you have just confirmed what I have been saying all along.

            The Koran is not telling Muslims to fight those who fight Muslims. It is telling Muslims to fight those who DON’T BELIEVE”.

          31. AKLady2015 says:

            Muslims worship the Old Testament God of Abraham.

            The Holy Bible also orders killin of thos eho d not believe. What is your point?

            Deuteronomy 17
            If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

          32. AKLady2015 says:

            Verse 9-29
            Pickthall: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

          33. ArcticGrayling says:

            Christians and Jews must be made to feel subjugated. They must also pay the jizyah, which is an extortion tax.

            If they don’t, they must convert or die.

          34. AKLady2015 says:

            And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.–1 Sam.6:19

          35. AKLady2015 says:

            Deuteronomy 13:6-9 “If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people.”

          36. AKLady2015 says:

            Matthew 15:1-9
            1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked,
            2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”
            3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?
            4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’
            5 But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,’
            6 he is not to ‘honor his father’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition.
            7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
            8 ” ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
            9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'”

          37. AKLady2015 says:

            Just for info, polytheism is a relgion with multiple Gods.

            Verse 9-5
            And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

          38. ArcticGrayling says:

            In other words, they are not murdered if they convert.

          39. AKLady2015 says:

            Try these Christian murders for size:

            The Crusades, The Inquisition, The witch hunts, The Peasants War, French Wars of rebellion, Massacre at Vassy, The Thirty Years War, Pope Sixtus V, Irish Rebellion, Democide in the Americas, Democide in Africa, Democide in Australia, The papal bull Romanus Pontifex – 1455, Slavery in the Americas, Leopold II, King of the Belgians – butcher of the Congo Free State 1885-1908, The Holocaust, Catholic Nazi State in Croatia, Lebanon War, Sabta and Shatila Massacre, Serb Orthodox genocide, Protestant death squads in Ireland, The Rwandan genocide, Zimbabwe — Catholic protection of Mugabe, Lord’s Resistance Army, Central African Republic Catholic murdering of those who won’t convert …, Americans killing physicians and bombing medical clinics, American killing church congregations, America – the KKK murders (they are now international terrorists).

          40. ArcticGrayling says:

            You are getting desperate. What practitioners of other faiths have done or what their books say have nothing to do with the topic.

            Each faith must stand on the basis of its own faults and merits.

            The topic here is islam, and both you and I have backed up what I have been saying all along.

            Islamic theology promotes pedophilia, violence against women, rape, theft from infidels, murder of infidels, etc.

            Citing other practices, beliefs, or scripture is beside the point. The point is what Islam teaches, and I have made my points in spades.

            You have just shown yourself to be a desperate buffoon. You are an ignoramus that has brought a knife to a gunfight.

            You are a typical liberal brain dead slag who is way out of her league.

          41. AKLady2015 says:

            Fact: YOu are an ignorant, religious bigot.
            Nothing in your statement is true.
            You are a typical fool that confuses religion with culture.

          42. AKLady2015 says:

            Just for info, polytheism is a relgion with multiple Gods

          43. AKLady2015 says:

            Kill infidels in the Bible: Deuteronomy 13:6, Deuteronomy 13: 13, Deuteronomy 17:3, 2 Chronicles 15:13, Leviticus 20:27, Matthew 15:1-9, Romans 1:20-32, and Matthew 5:42-44.

            There is more, but that should educate you a bit better.

            Nowhere in the Quran did God say to kill innocent unbelievers. Provide proof for your claim.

          44. ArcticGrayling says:

            Verse 9-5.

          45. AKLady2015 says:

            Your ignorance of Islam is emmense.
            Who has taught you these lies?

          46. ArcticGrayling says:

            Not a lie to say that Islamic law demands death for apostasy. Not a lie to say that Islam promotes pedophilia and violence against women. Not a lie that Islam promotes theft and extortion from infidels.

          47. AKLady2015 says:

            Every statemwnt you made is false.

            The Koran does not demands death for apostasy. There is no judgement on apostate mentioned anywhere in in the Koran.
            Thne Koran does not promote theft of any kind.
            The Koran does not promore extortion of any kind.

          48. ArcticGrayling says:

            Wrong on all counts:

            (1) the jizyah in verse 9-29 is a form of extortion.

            (2) verse 8-41 allows theft from infidels. It refers to loot taken from infidels, whereby 20% of what is stolen goes to Allah and his prophet. The Tafsir of Al Jalalayn refers to the loot as “taken from infidels by force’. That’s called stealing.

            (3) The call for death for apostasy is in both verse 4-89 and in the Hadith. Verse 4-80 requires that Muslims to obey the prophet just like they would obey fuckface Allah, which means that Muslims must obey what the prophet says in the Hadith.

            (4) Islam allows rape. It’s verse 4-24, where sex is allowed with those “that your right hands posses”. All the Tafsirs describe right hand possssions as “captives”. Sex with a captive woman is rape.

            Allah is really a bastard.

          49. AKLady2015 says:

            15“If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. Matthew 18:15-17

          50. AKLady2015 says:

            Let us look at Deuteronomy 13:6-9 “If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people.”

          51. AKLady2015 says:

            Matthew 15:1-9
            1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked,
            2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”
            3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?
            4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.‘
            5 But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,’
            6he is not to ‘honor his father’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition.
            7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
            8 ” ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
            9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.’”

          52. AKLady2015 says:

            Sahih International: And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.Verse (4:24) – English Translation

          53. AKLady2015 says:

            Pickthall: And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that ye seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery. And those of whom ye seek content (by marrying them), give unto them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what ye do by mutual agreement after the duty (hath been done). Lo! Allah is ever Knower, Wise. Verse (4:24) – English Translation

          54. Retired says:

            Don’t waste your time on AK Troll , she knows everything better.

          55. ArcticGrayling says:

            I am not dividing language and religion. I am connecting them where it is valid. It is valid to connect Arabic with Islam, because no matter what the native language of the Muslim is, they still have to pray to the dumb fuck in Arabic.

            If anybody needs an Arabic English dictionary, it’s shithead Allah.

          56. AKLady2015 says:

            Why do you lie?
            What do you gain from lying?
            Allah is the Arabic word for God — the Old Testament God of Abraham.
            The very same God worshipped by Christians and Jews.

          57. ArcticGrayling says:

            Muslims are required to pray in Arabic.


            That is intolerant of people of other tongues. If Allah wants to be my god, the dumb fucker can learn English.

          58. AKLady2015 says:

            SHOULD is not a requirement, it is a suggestion.

          59. ArcticGrayling says:

            Allah is not my fucking god.

            Allah can kiss my ass.

            Put yourself in amongst some sand niggers and try talking to asshole Allah in something other than Arabic.

            Then see their reaction.

          60. ArcticGrayling says:

            Islam calls for the murder of those who don’t believe. It’s n the Koran in many places, including verses 9-5 and 4-89.

            People who can read can see for themselves. If you want interpretations for those verses or any others, you go by the Tafsirs, such as Ibn Abbas, al Jalalayn, Ibn kathir, plus others. They all say basically the same thing.

            It’s pure evil. Anybody who defends Islam is in fact rationalizing that evil, and is therefore part of the problem.

            Your attempt to compare it to anything else matters not a damn. The theology must stand on the basis of its own merits without reference to anything else.

            Besides, I have said nothing for or against the scripture of any other faith, and therefore have no burden of proof on them.

            You are suggesting I should ask that Allah guy for forgiveness?


            Fuck Allah. The son of a bitch should be more concerned about us infidels forgiving him (or maybe it’s her?).

          61. AKLady2015 says:

            There are Hindus and Sikhs living in almost every one of the world’s contries. They speak the language of the country in which they live.

            Oh, and by the way, all Arabs are not negro.

          62. ArcticGrayling says:

            Maybe you can enlighten us all by giving us the location of Hindu and Sikh temples in Sodomy Arabia.

            Or better still, try entering that shithole with a bible or a Sikh holy book.

          63. AKLady2015 says:

            Arabic is the official language in Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Chad, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Palestine, and Western Sahara.

          64. ArcticGrayling says:

            Oh sure…the same mantra…

            Come up with something new.

            It doesn’t matter that not all Muslims speak Arabic. They still must pray to that dumb celestial pimp in Arabic. Arabic is the language of Islam.

            I guess “the creator of the universe” is unilibgual.

            The dumb shit should learn other languages.

          65. AKLady2015 says:

            Then God spoke all these words, saying, 2″I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. 3″You shall have no other gods before Me.…Exodus 20:2

          66. ArcticGrayling says:

            If I want to have another god, I can have one.

            If I don’t want any gods, I don’t have to have one.

            If I think somebody else’s god is an asshole, I can say so.

            If any god wants to condemn unbelievers, then unbelievers can condemn that god.

            If any god engages in nasty name calling, then we can call that God nasty names.

            Is muslims want to call us infidels nasty names, such as kufar or najis, then we can call them sand niggers.

            Allah is a pig.

            Muhammad’s mother was a whore.

          67. AKLady2015 says:

            You are an embarassment to America.

          68. AKLady2015 says:

            Allah is the Arabic word for God. The Old Testatment God of Abraham. The same God worshipped by Jews and Christians.
            Exacrly what do you consider the “power of evil”?

            Say: “O followers of earlier revelation! Do you find fault with us for no other reason than that we believe in God [alone], and in that which He has bestowed from on high upon us as well as that which He has bestowed aforetime? – or [is it only] because most of you are iniquitous?” Say: “Shall I tell you who, in the sight of God, deserves a yet worse retribution than these? They whom God rejected and whom He condemned, and whom He turned into apes and swine because they worshipped the powers of evil: these are yet worse in station, and farther astray from the right path [than the mockers].” (5:59-60)

          69. ArcticGrayling says:

            In other words, asshole Allah consists non believers “pigs and monkeys”.

            Allah can kiss my ass.

          70. AKLady2015 says:

            Why do you lie?

            You are incorrectly citing a parable about individuals who work on the Sabbath.

            Apparently, the Hebrew Bible can condemn those who violate God’s Commandments, but the Koran cannot?

          71. ArcticGrayling says:

            If I want to work on the Sabbath, I am free to do it. If any god calls me nasty names for doing so, then I am free to call that god nasty names.

            And when did I say a word about the Hebrew bible?

          72. AKLady2015 says:

            You did not, I did.

            I pointed out that both the Bible and the Koran damn those who work on the Sabbath.

            I’m trying to understand the basis for your bigotry.

            At this time, it has become obvious that you indulge in self-imposed ignorance.

            You refuse to look at truth or facts.

          73. ArcticGrayling says:

            Allah is a pig.

          74. AKLady2015 says:

            Allah is the rhe Arabic langiage word for the Old Testamwnt God of Abraham.

            Allah is the God worshipped by Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Samaritanism, Druze, Rastafari, Mandaeism(not really an Abrahamic religion, they believe that Abraham was a false prophet), and Babism.

            Here is the name of God in many different languages:

          75. ArcticGrayling says:

            You said that there is nothing in Islamic scripture that promotes murder on non believers.

            I have given you numerous references to show that Islam does advocate murder of non Muslims. What other faiths teach is irrelevant.

            “WHAT ABOUTISM” is how complete fucking morons such as yourself attempt to divert a conversation that’s going in a direction they don’t like.

            It’s irrelevant. Eat shit.

          76. AKLady2015 says:

            The only things that has come out of your mind, so far, are bigotry, ignorance and sewer language.

          77. ArcticGrayling says:

            The only person who has been shown to be truly ignorant in this exchange is you. You steadfastly maintained that nothing in Islamic scripture promotes the murder of non believers. I have given irrefutable references that it does.

            Your only response has been been lies and “WHAT ABOUTISM”.

            What other faiths may or may not teach is not the point. The point is what Islam teaches.

            And since shithead Allah says such ugly shit in his Koran, I can call that bastard Allah and his son of whore prophet any epithet that I want.

          78. AKLady2015 says:

            Why do you lie?

            Allah is the word for God in Arabic.

            Allah is the God of Abraham.

            Your posts make it very clear that you have mever actually read any of the Koran.

            Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

            That verse is talking about the the people who plotted against Jesus (specifically) to destroy him. See Surat ‘Ali `Imran [3:53-59]. Even if you accept that this is a general principle (which seems at odds with the context), this is not Allah telling the Muslims to do so, He is simply saying that that is what he will do.

          79. ArcticGrayling says:

            The Koran is bigoted against those who want to work on the Sabbath.

          80. AKLady2015 says:

            The Holy Bible “is bigoted against those who want to work on the Sabbath.”
            God’s first commandment forbids labor on the Sabbath.
            What is your point?

          81. ArcticGrayling says:

            So there is some pretentious celestial son of a bitch who says I am damned if i work on the sabbath?

            Well damn him!!

            I don’t recognize the Sabbath, so if I want to work on the Sabbath, I will do so. It’s called religious freedom.

            And I will damn any bastard, a god or otherwise, who is uppity enough to damn me. It’s nobody’s business what I do with my time, least of all some dumb fuck of a god who can’t speak English. If that bastard calls me nasty names for doing so, then I will return the compliment. After all, he started with the insults and threats.

            Fuck him.

          82. AKLady2015 says:

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          83. AKLady2015 says:

            Actually, there are Hindus as Sikhs living in countries were Arabic is the primary languae. There are also people who speak English, and CHinesem and German…. Arab nations are oil producing countries, there are people from all over the world working for the oil companieds.

  • ArcticGrayling says:

    No doubt CNN will decry his choice for UN ambassador for lack of foreign policy experience.

    As if those with experience have done us any good.

    If he didn’t pick her, CNN would holler racism.

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