Trump raises stakes for next shutdown fight

by MIKE LILLIS AND JORDAN FABIAN | thehill  |  published on May 3, 2017

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Less than 48 hours after Congress reached a bipartisan deal on 2017 spending, President Trump warned the next round might not be so easy.

The president on Tuesday roiled the debate over a 2018 spending package — five months before Congress’s deadline to pass it — by promoting the notion that a “good shutdown” in September would go a long way toward fixing the “mess” in Washington.

Arriving by tweet just after 9 a.m., the comment — unprecedented for a sitting president — was seen as no threat to the 2017 omnibus funding package, which Congress is expected to send to Trump this week to prevent a shutdown on Saturday.

But it appears to reflect Trump’s frustration with reports and analyses, many from conservative allies, that the Republicans were rolled during the negotiations over the current bill, which included almost none of the prominent policy riders the White House had initially demanded.

  • Richard Frick

    wrap it around Schumer and Pelosi’s neck then then shove their heads where the sun doesn’t shine. Promise the rest of the pucks the same treatment for opposition.

  • kathleen_smith121

    The rank and file of the GOP got just what they wanted. There are NO REAL republican, or at least very few.
    Trump is raking n record $$$s for his reelection campaign. I would NOT give these RINOs one dime for their reelection campaigns and fund new people to run against them. How THAT is how you drain the swamp!!

  • Walter Flatt

    I SAY, SHUT IT DOWN MR. PRESIDENT AND SHOW THE IDIOTS WHO IS IN CHARGE. IF ANY BILL COMES ACROSS YOUR DESK THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR THIS COUNTRY, VETO THE THING AND MAKE THEM GET 3/4TH MAJORITY. USE THE AXE YOU HAVE.

    FROM A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, BUT AN AMERICAN FIRST. PROUDLY, I VOTED FOR TRUMP. I AM 86 AND NEVER SEEN A MORE QUALIFIED PERSON THERE.

    EVERY ONE AND THIS GOVERNMENT HAD BETTER WORRY ABOUT THE MUSLIMS HERE AT HOME ESPECIALLY THE 5 CAMPS IN NORTH VA. CLOSE TO WASHINGTON.

    PUBLIC LAW 414, PAGE 2, SECTION 212, WAS PASSED IN 1952 THAT BANS ALL PEOPLE TRYING TO DESTROY OUR COUNTY, AND MUSLIMS QUALIF TO BE DEPORTED.

    READ THE QURAN, THEIR BIBLE.

    COULD IT BE THAT OBAMA HAS SET US UP FOR HIM TO LEAD A MUSLIM INVASION OF OUR COUNTRY? IF NOT,

    WHY ARE THERE 5 MUSLIM CAMPS IN N. VIRGINA, CLOSE TO DC. (TAKE OVER WASHINGTON, COULD BE) WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF HEADLESS POLITICIANS IF SO.

    WHY TRY AND BUY UP ALL AMMO AND TAKE OUR GUNS.

    WHY ALLOW IN EXCESS OF 36 MUSLIM CAMPS. (PERHAPS HUNDREDS)

    (BUILD A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE? SOME STATE HAS MORE THAN ONE. BUILT AND SUPPORTED BY YOUR TAX MONEY.

    WHY, WHILE IN OFFICE, DID HE SET HIS CABINET WITH MOSTLY MUSLIMS.

    WHY WAS HILLIARY’S TOP AIDE A RADICAL MUSLIM,

    WHY IS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY FOR A OPEN BORDER. COULD IT BE TO GET FREE DOPE, GOODGLE, THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES 2015 AND LISTEN TO IT ALL.

    LAST WHY, DID OBAMA SEND BILLIONS TO HIS MUSLIM FRIENDS.

  • wmagg

    when are the moons in D.C. going to get it, It’s not their money it’s OUR’s
    They have stolen from the people of this country long enough.
    Trump is there to fix the mess Oturdboy and the DEMS made and to do the work of the people. HAY Trump Don’t sing it send it back and make them do it right for a change. and if they don’t then they own the consequences, and the repercussions of their actions.

  • Jerry

    I think President Trump should attach government health care to the budget, we either get the wall and 1/2 funding for planned parenthood only if the quit abortions, travel ban, full repeal of aca, or we drop the government employee health care completely and all retirement benefits will be voted on by the people you are suppose to represent

  • Ila Sullivan

    If I was President Trump, I would not sign the bill

    • James Maxwell

      IF that pile of crap came to my desk I would break out Laughing
      and THEN slip it over the corner to the shredder. There is not
      way on Earth that I would sign a 1.07 TRILLION DOLLAR spending
      bill that give the democrat socialist ever thing they wanted and the
      American People the shaft in a big way. It is only good for a few
      months and knowing Congress they would be broke within a few
      day and wanting more money. I strongly suspect that it also
      includes pay raises and bonuses for them and nothing that I have
      seen for the American People.

      • Retired

        The elderly got the biggest shaft for 8 years under Obama .This new proposal is no better than the ACA .

        • gvette

          For my two cents worth. There was nothing wrong with the HC in our country before Onigger care. No one was ever denied anything. If you remember back in history, The first thing Hitler did was institute government controlled healthcare. It’s about control, not HC!

          • Retired

            That is what Politics has turned into , control the taxpayer .

          • gvette

            That’s all it’s about. Nothing more. Oh, and do the politicians care if your sick? Not even.

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  • xingqin

    There is eveidence that would allow for Obama’s arrest on charges of high treason—There is factual evidence that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii–There are several cases of fraud and enough to put him in Prison for life and yet our government sets idle and makes no charges. There is evidence enough to convict crooked Hillary and Billy the pervert, Schumer and several other top socialist communist party members and yet our government does nothing. The charges of corruption would include members on both sides of the aisle, like McCain, Ryan, Lindsey, and several others which is why they fail to bring charges, By convicting Obama of High Treason and proving that he deceived America not having been born here, committed fraud in trying to hide the truth, committed fraud by having several social security cards and more, he should be declared as an illegal in the presidents chair. All of his signed documents, including Obamacare, and all of his appointees were illegal and also cancelled out. This would solve many problems for Trump, and would allow him to more rapidly drain the swamp. These are new discoveries and we the people need to know why there as been no action to get these blood suckers out of our government.

  • Jerry

    And the democrats are bragging how they got everything they wanted, Trump would be a fool to give them anything, I thought he was this great negotiater that knew how to win, it kind of makes me wonder

    • Wingedgodd3ss

      He’s certainly not getting help from the republicans. Ryan needs to be removed.

      • Jerry

        Yes Ryan is a problem, the Democrats say they will never compromise with President Trump, so we should just change the rules as to how many votes are needed to pass stuff and then bypass the democrats

        • Wingedgodd3ss

          Totally. The GOP needs to stop being stupid-dump Ryan and get things done.

  • Richard Bagenstose

    he signs this spending bill , he will become a dead duck president, you give the democrats and inch and they will take the mile

  • Richard Bagenstose

    that’s ok, no wall, no repeal of the aca ,no travel ban, no illegal immigrant reform and i will not vote for the gop again, if they are going to run congress and keep giving into the democrats then i might as well help elect the democrats, seeing how democrats can work together and republicans can’t, even if i don’t like their policies, to stupid to get rid of ryan and mcconnell then they are to stupid to run congress

    • bobnstuff

      Has Trump sent any bills to congress yet? In most cases when a president wants congress to do something he sends them a bill that they can debate and pass. Trump sends Tweets.

      • Richard Bagenstose

        your right , and when you want something passed , you go over there and chew their asses out till you get what you want ,all these executive orders are as useless as obomas are, the next president can reverse them, and i am sick of this dog and pony show ,

        • bobnstuff

          My thinking is first you ask, you explain in detail what you want, give reasons for why you want it and when objections arise deal with them. Sales is a game of over coming objections. If reason fails then and only then do you take it to the next level. You may have to give a little to get what you want. This is all stuff that as a super salesman Trump should know.

          • Wingedgodd3ss

            Ryan is not doing anything that Trump wants. It’s really pissing me off. I would love to smack Ryan in his smug face.

          • bobnstuff

            The only thing that Trump has pushed are those two totally worthless healthcare bills and not because they were good but only to say he got them passed. If Trump wants things done he has to do some of the work. EO’s just don’t get the job done. He said a lot of things while running but he really hasn’t done the follow up work.

            I dislike Ryan but not because he’s not working with Trump, which we know he wouldn’t all alone but because he believes he is the smartest man in the room. He follows the great man theory of history and believe he is that great man.

          • Retired

            You forget Ryan and Priebus work hand in hand , they are not going to stab each other .

          • wmagg

            that is due to the FACT that Ryan is a RINO he could care less about this nation just like most of the REP’s
            They have been there so long they no longer have any concept of what it is like to live in the mess they have created, that is why they keep passing bills to exempt themselves from their actions, just like they did with Obamanation care-less. and Social insecurity.

          • kathleen_smith121

            As Rush said the other day, when you become Ryan’s # 1 donor instead of the pharmaceutical companies and Business Groups, he will start listening to you.

      • Jim

        The President has Agenda’s and expectation and this Congress is very aware of the Agenda,The Congress Republicans ran on the same Agenda, Repeal, Tax reform, Immigration reform, AND SO ON, and then wait for some one else to come up with a plan. The Congress WRITES THE BILL, not the President, otherwise we would not need a Congress.
        But what we have for the past 3 decades is President’s that just let Congress run on auto pilot, it has been like having thieves guarding Fort Knox, and making SELF SEVERING DEALS BETWEEN THEMSELVES both Democrats and Republicans!
        This election season, listen to the person running, if they have your values then vote for that one, DO NOT KEEP VOTING FOR THE SAME DO NOTHING PEOPLE AND EXPECT SOMETHING DIFFERENT! IT WILL NOT HAPPEN!

        • bobnstuff

          The President send tweets out with his so called agenda. He doesn’t send detailed plans of anything. His web sight when he was running was the same way. He is lazy and that’s why he isn’t getting things he wants done. Instead of sending a tax reform plan he send a one page list. He said he had a healthcare reform bill but he never did produce it. Historically the President sends detailed instructions to congress as to what they want. If Trump relies on the Republicans in congress to figure out what he wants and write a bill he’s in real trouble.

          • Jim

            So your smarter then Congress? Did President Trump, send you a detailed plan of what he wants?
            But yet you seem to understand very well what President Trump ran for, after all he told EVERY ONE for 18 Months what he wants done. You must mean the Democrats did not get the plan? They are pretty slow, and every word needs a picture to make sure they understand.

        • Retired

          They all had big mouths for the election and now are church mice .

      • Dolores Vaccarelli

        when the hell does a president send bill to congress.. Congress makes laws.. President suggests what he wants

      • Retired

        Here you go again with your Bull , one day you say it’s congress job now you say it’s the presidents next you will say it’s the janitors job .

    • James Maxwell

      There are some I might still vote for in my area but if they continue with
      Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan, the two worse losers there, I might as
      well vote for an avowed Democrat Socialist. At least with them I know
      I will be screwed as soon as they open the mouths. Apparently
      the GOP still has not figured out they won the election and are still
      sucking up to the Demonic Left. This is exposing all the RINO’s that
      still need to be removed or those with out a spine as we are seeing in
      the so called leadership.

      • Richard Bagenstose

        it’s not that they haven’t figured out they won the election ,it’s that they want the same things as the democrats , they just have a different way of getting there, the days of working for we the people are over , they work to fill their own pockets , look at how many republicans want more immigration , they want the illegals , they want killing babies , they want the drugs in the country , and this funding bill proves it, it has it all in it ,for 8 years we listened to them give us this and we will fix it , and we gave it to them and what are they fixing nothing , crying like democrats that trump won, how can you expect the pople who got rich off the system to change the system ,it’s like slicing your own throat

    • golface12949

      No, We absolutely don’t want a Demorat in office,any office. What we need an independent with our interests at heart.Obama & the Demorats have screwed up this country in trying to make us a Communist rule, That it will take 10 years of Conservatives to turn it around.Obama is 110% Muslim and spent 8 years trying to get them in control here.

      • Retired

        Put the blame where it belongs , the UN and their puppets Bill Clinton and Obama .

    • gvette

      You’re wrong. They are working on the wall. The money is there. The travel ban got stopped because the DemonRATS fond a judge to do their bidding, and the funny part is, the judge was trying make law. All trump is doing, is using existing laws, that Barry O didn’t.

  • bobnstuff

    I do believe that Trump is getting a little ahead of himself. He has started to fight over a bill that hasn’t even been written yet. In November Trump know he was going to be president and even before that he should have believed it could happen. Now he has been in the White House for over three month and he still has only outlines of the things he wants done. Even though he hasn’t put a plan together he is already complaining and bullying. Trump wants healthcare reform but has still not put together his own plan on how to do it. He wants a lot of other things but the details still aren’t there.I guess he skipped the leadership classes along with the civics and history classes. As a leader he needs to present a clear detailed proposal and then if it is rejected he can fight for it but first he needs to do his homework. Mr. President give us the details of your plans.

  • Not_Easily_Impressed

    I expect more of the same behavior in the future. It is called volatility and it can be quite effective. But what is the end game?

    • bobnstuff

      He has no end game. He think that he can bully his way through and it doesn’t work that way.

      • CrustyOldGeezer

        In the same way you pretend to have value to a conversation bob?

        Not really, because he does have enough brains to complete the thoughts in his head.

        On a good day, the best you can do is parrot the talking points given to you.
        And you don’t seem to have a lot of ‘good days’.

        • PatriotGal

          Crusty, I love reading your comments. You always nail it so “sweetly”.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            I fear I have been slipping a bit lately.

            But I do try to keep it lighthearted.

        • bobnstuff

          Have you seen any details on just what Trump wants? We know it will be the greatest ever by his own words but the devil is in the details and we have none.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            You didn’t get the morning talking points bobn?

            THAT’S ODD!!!

            I thought you already knew everything on every subject..

            sure is a big letdown….

          • bobnstuff

            Did you? Trump has a hard time writing anything longer the a Tweet. His Tax reform plan is one page long which is more then he has given to congress so far.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Why Yes bob, and I was asked to not forward them to you.

            I don’t think they respect you very much.

            Something about “slow learners” and “Reality Deniers…”

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Here’s a tax plan that will fit in a tweet.

            File an Amendment that will repeal the 16th Amendment!

            Is that too lacking in details for you to understand?

          • bobnstuff

            If we did that then how would we pay for Trump to play golf?

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            You didn’t seem to worry about that sort of thing when your lord and savior Prince Barry blew over TWO BILLION on his vacation in Mumbai.

            THAT was just the cost to the Military to have a Carrier Battle Group stationed just offshore because that was the only way to provide the security for him.

            Nor did we hear you whining about how many times the Nation was left hanging so your trained teleprompter monkey could play golf.

            Why is that bob?

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            When Trump ‘plays golf’ it is a ‘business meeting’, but that, again, is beyond your ability to comprehend.

          • bobnstuff

            Had that story been true I would have been upset but it wasn’t. This story started with an unnamed Indian writer and was not in fact the truth. This trip wasn’t a vacation either, it was a state visit. The cost of the carrier group was the same even if the president hadn’t been there since we tend to keep one in that part of the world. Right now that group just mover to Korea.

            How is it you complain about a few golf games over a number of years but not over a few weeks. This is the 21st century and even on a golf course you can be reached. Obama worked lone and hard. He wasn’t in his robe and slippers at 7:00 pm watching TV like some presidents. He even took briefings and read reports. Being able to read has proven useful to Obama, a skill Trump has yet to master.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Oh bob, I do not expect you to understand the concept of ‘golf meetings’, but, then again, you have no knowledge on the subject and can only parrot that which you have been taught to parrot.

            You still trying to convince us that you are a conservative?

          • bobnstuff

            If he was having golf meetings. He has only one in all the times he’s been out on the coarse. Mostly he likes to play golf pro’s. Also have you ever had a golf meeting. It’s not the best way to get things done. I play golf so I have a little understanding of what you can and can’t get done on the golf coarse. Even Trump said he wouldn’t be playing golf once in office and was critical of Obama’s playing. I have also heard that Trump cheats at golf.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            How Pathetic of you.

            You “heard” that Trump ‘cheats’ at golf.

            And yet you offer no sources that can be examined for verification.

            Is this the best you can do at CHARACTER ASSASSINATION?

            Yes, I have had “golf meetings” and YES they are far more productive than office meetings.

            Methinks you have amply proven your value to any civil conversation.

          • bobnstuff
          • CrustyOldGeezer

            A: Rush has PROVABLE CREDIBILITY. On his radio show he states Plainly and OFTEN that he has been proven to be RIGHT 99.6% of the time. And you know that if there was any wiggle room on that, there are thousands on the let that would called him on it.

            B. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY.

            as to your references, they also lack credibility and they have no PROOF of their tales of woe.

          • bobnstuff

            https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/01/07/what_s_up_in_the_new_hampshire_skies/
            Do you know what a con trail is? Water vapor, no chemicals just water vapor. Ask any chemist.
            Rush has a very bad record with the fact checking people. 95% half false to pants on fire, 0% truth.
            http://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/
            So I think the fact that you never give any proof of your statement puts you right up there with Rush. You said Rush has been proven right 99.6%, where is you proof?
            http://rush-matters.com/current-events/rush-limbaugh-admits-im-just-a-businessman%5C

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            CON TRAIL

            “CONDENSATION TRAIL”

            Any more dumb-assed questions?

            As to the Limbaugh claim….

            Where are the media trying to prove his claim to be false?

            If you believe I have presented any faleshoods as FACT, please present your PROOF, and no, ‘politifact’ is not a reliable source, snopes is funded by Soros, etc.

            We’re pretty much done here bob.

            You have nothing of value, and you know it as well as I, and pretty much everybody else knows it too.

          • bobnstuff

            You never prove anything. Those fact checking sights give very detailed explanations as to why Rush is lying like a rug. So prove Rush is 99.6 % true. That means links from a reliable source, not one from some ones basement.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            As I said earlier bob, we are pretty much done here.

            Its is said that to argue with a fool only drags down the other until there is no difference.

            YOU are too entrenched in your talking points that you cannot breathe fresh air.

            You claimed you are a conservative.

            I challenged you claims and you proved me right.

            Your diaper needs changed.

          • bobnstuff

            It won’t work, You still haven’t give one piece of proof. not one link or anything. You know that just shows you have none. You are just full of BS and nothing else. I have nothing to prove to a wind bag like you. 99.6% true. You said it now back up you story with proof.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Boobie, when the PROOF is presented on a daily basis, it is inherently YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY ATTENTION.

            Personally, I seriously doubt you have the mental acuity to even understand that comment.

          • bobnstuff

            Still no proof of your statement. Sad, the more I ask for you to back up your statement the more agree you get because you are caught in a lie. Sad, When you make bold statements you should have some facts but alas you are just a wind bag making noise. You made the statement so the proof is on you.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            just babble, bob, just babble.

          • bobnstuff

            I guess babble is all I should expect from you.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            being a bit childish there little buddy.

            You have proven yourself to be the fool, and we are done.

          • bobnstuff

            I know repeating your words is foolish. You still haven’t proved that 99.6% of Rush’s statements are true. Not proof of anything you say.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Did you misunderstand reality?

            The onus to prove HIM wrong lies with YOU.

            But, when you’re a liberal, extreme stupidity seems to come naturally.

          • bobnstuff

            I gave you proof eighteen posts ago and you said the Rush was proved right b99.6% of the time, I want your proof since I gave you mine. No more BS, give up the proof or your are just another fool who makes things up.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            You really are a MORON aren’t you?

            Go back and investigate who said what you retarded little fool.

          • bobnstuff

            Your the one getting the pants on fire award here for the 99.6% lie you came up with. No proof make you the liar. You should be used to it though since you never give support to your stupid statements.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Yup, yer still stupid to carry on a conversation.

            Make me think you are more troll than living braincell.

        • bobnstuff

          As a conservative I want a clear plan on how my money is going to be spent. I want a balanced budget that has enough income to cover the spending. I want things to work and to pay a far price for them. All the experts say Trump idea for a wall isn’t what we need but Trump needs his wall. I want secure borders and I will support spending for that end. I trust the experts on the subject but Trump believes he knows more then the experts on everything.

      • Not_Easily_Impressed

        Just because we don’t know his end game does not prove there is or is not one. Unsupported claims are the hallmark of a troll. Good luck with that!

        • bobnstuff

          Trump has never put out any real details on anything. When pressed on this he kicks the ball down the road and hopes people forget about it. His web page when he was running had no details and in fact he didn’t even know what it said. Since he was elected his favorite tool is Tweets. No details there. He has no real plan, he’s playing it by ear and going where the wind blows. If you know some sight he has put his master plan on let me know but as of right now I stand by my statement. Just so you know every other president has by now given details on their legislative agenda and have sent bills to congress to be approved..

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            I keep trying to get you on the “IMPORTANT PERSON” list so you will get first notifications on everything.

            Apparently the people actually in charge don’t place the same importance that you demand.

            Maybe you need to EARN “Respect” before you can DEMAND respect…..

          • bobnstuff

            If I cared about respect I wouldn’t be posting here. I do get updates from my Republican Congressman and Senator almost daily but I think they only love me for my money.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Bob, your ‘self claimed’ conservative position is based solely on your claims of being a conservative.

            Your comments in numerous threads over time has belied that position and placed you in the “HIGHLY SUSPECT” category.

          • bobnstuff

            I’m a finical conservative and a social liberal. I’m what would be call these days a Chamber of Commerce Republican. What I’m not is a tabloid conservative like most people here. In case you haven’t noticed I post a lot of links because I look for the real facts not the created ones the people like Alex Jones and Hannity put out. I have a fairly good memory and have paid attention. I don’t see things in just black and white terms. I have been very lucky to have gotten to see a lot and do a lot over the years. If you post something that isn’t true I will call you out on it and present the facts of the matter as I understand them. If you post a link I will go and check it out. I come to this sight to be challenged. There are some fairly sharp minds here but there are some that are repeaters for the Fox type news line. I have no problem with people calling me out, I am very secure in who I am.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Hey bobn, it’s your fairy tale, so you tell it the way you want.

            I’m still gonna go with your online history.

            And I think you meant you are a fiscal conservative.

            “finical’ would be a typo of finicky

    • PatriotGal

      A warning shot across the bow that next time shall be far different. This is just a CR of OWEbama’s budget. The next will actually be PRESIDENT Trump’s.

      • bobnstuff

        If he writes one. Don’t hold you breath.

      • Not_Easily_Impressed

        I think there is a contingency plan behind the overt plan. The apparent goal and desire that we see from Trump is a mixed bag and is confusing and frustrating. I don’t like it but I see some possibilities. The trend is massive and strong. If Trump can build a consensus and get rid of Ryan and McConnell the bigger picture could emerge. I support Trump and hope I am right but truly, only time will tell. I have no way of knowing what is really going on up there. Maybe the next election will produce some clarity?

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