Trump’s Muslims Registry A Reality?

by Ben Kamisar | TheHill.com  |  published on November 17, 2016

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President-elect Donald Trump’s immigration advisers could recommend a registry for immigrants from Muslim countries and countries with significant problems with terrorism, according to a top ally.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, an immigration hard-liner who has been advising Trump, told Reuters that transition policy advisers are weighing the merits of such a registry.

He added that the policy could be recommended as part of initial executive orders “so that Trump and the Department of Homeland Security hit the ground running.”

Trump has long embraced the policies of immigration hard-liners like Kobach meant to curb illegal immigration from Mexico and cut off potential immigration by would-be terrorists.

Last November, Trump told an NBC reporter that he would “certainly implement” a database to keep tabs on Muslims in America, adding that Muslims would be required to sign up.

A month later, he called for a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.”

  • CharlieSeattle

    In every WESTERN country where Muslims are in the minority, they are obsessed with minority rights.

    In every ISLAMIC country with a Muslim majority, …there are no minority rights!

    islam is NOT a religion of peace!!
    islam is a sick and twisted terrorist ideology that is completely incompatible with western civilization!!

    No Muslims Registry! America does not need them!
    Deport all muslims, citizens or not, from the west at once!!
    Ban all muslims from traveling to the west, …FOREVER

    Trump is correct.
    Implement muslim control, NOT gun control.

    Defending your person, your family, your country from attack and invasion from those forcing a violent, terrorist, genocidal ideology on western civilization…is …not … islamophobia ….or racist. ….It is just common sense.

    The people the USA, Europe, Britain and Canada must throw down their treasonous leaders forcing this evil upon them.

  • MCS

    Sent to me, and worth reading. Does it sound familiar?
    =====================================================
    Below is the Muslim Brotherhood’s 1982 manifesto titled “The Project,” penned by Sa’id Ramadan, the son-in-law of Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood.*

    The Project was distributed to Muslim Brotherhood members around the world who were ordered to strictly guard The Project’s content from outsiders. They did so until November of 2001 when a copy of The Project was discovered during a police raid of a senior Muslim Brotherhood financier’s home in Switzerland.*

    The Project outlined the Muslim Brotherhood’s 25 strategies, including the deception of Taqiyya (lying is permissible if Allah’s cause is furthered), to infiltrate and to eventually subjugate the rest of the world under Islam, the “Religion of Peace” as follows:

    1. Network and coordinate actions between like-minded Islamists organizations;

    2. Avoid open alliances with known terrorist organizations and individuals to maintain the appearance of “moderation”;

    3. Infiltrate and take over existing Muslim organizations to realign them towards the Muslim Brotherhood’s collective goals;

    4. Use deception to mask the intended goals of Islamist actions, as long as it doesn’t conflict with Sharia law;

    5. Avoid social conflicts with Westerners locally, nationally or globally, that might damage the long-term ability to expand the Islamist powerbase in the West, including the support of full-time administrators and workers;

    6. Conduct surveillance, obtain data, and establish collection and data storage capabilities;

    7. Put into place a watchdog system for monitoring Western media to warn Muslims of international plots fomented against them;

    8. Cultivate an Islamist intellectual community, including the establishment of think-tanks and advocacy groups, and publishing “academic” studies, to legitimize Islamist positions and to chronicle the history of Islamist movements;

    9. Develop a comprehensive 100-year plan to advance Islamist ideology throughout the world;

    10. Balance international objectives with local flexibility;

    11. Build extensive social networks of schools, hospitals and charitable organizations dedicated to Islamist ideals so that contact with the movement for Muslims in the West is constant;

    12. Involve ideologically committed Muslims in democratically-elected institutions on all levels in the West, including government, NGOs, private organizations and labor unions;

    13. Instrumentally use existing Western institutions until they can be converted and put into service of Islam;

    14. Draft Islamic constitutions, laws and policies for eventual implementation;

    15. Avoid conflict within the Islamist movements on all levels, including the development of processes for conflict resolution;

    16. Institute alliances with Western “progressive” organizations that share similar goals;

    17. Create autonomous “security forces” to protect Muslims in the West;

    18. Inflame violence and keep Muslims living in the West “in a Jihad frame of mind”;

    19. Support Jihad movements across the Muslim world through preaching, propaganda, personnel, funding, and technical and operational support;

    20. Make the Palestinian Issue a global wedge cause for Muslims;

    21. Adopt the total liberation of Palestine from Israel and the creation of an Islamic state as a keystone in the plan for global Islamic domination;

    22. Instigate a constant campaign to incite hatred by Muslims against Jews and reject any discussions of conciliation or coexistence with them;

    23. Actively create Jihad terror cells within Palestine;

    24. Link the terrorist activities in Palestine with the global terror movement;

    25. Collect sufficient funds to indefinitely perpetuate and support Jihad around the world.

    * After the 2001 discovery of The Project in Switzerland, the Muslim Brotherhood quickly employed the deception of Taqiyya to try to distance itself from the document. The strategies outlined above, however, continue to be implemented across the world, including in Europe, UK and America.

  • Oldawg70

    Said it before, say it again: Islam has not place in America! It is anti-American, anti-Democracy, anti-Christian! Wake up America!

  • rockcut

    Shades of Nazism. First, single out the Muslim Americans and made them sign a registry……..who is next !!!

    • ArcticGrayling

      Muslim American is an oxymoron. You cannot be both a loyal American and a Muslim. A muslim’s first loyalty is to his whore master Allah before any other nation state in which he might be a citizen.

      • rockcut

        There are thousands Muslims Americans in our military protecting your right to post such foolish thoughts and don’t you ever forget it ! You claim is foolish.

        • ArcticGrayling

          You mean like the commissioned medical officer at Fort Hood?

          Who was he defending?

          Why believe any Muslim’s claim to defend the constitution when it conflicts with what his Allah guy says?

          • slbush7

            Again urine test not existent and when are fools like the Boston duo will happen again? Two year old babies are at risk. How do you protect them? These people think they are in the 7th century.

          • rockcut

            Go away you sick one ~

        • slbush7

          Yes true, however the unfortunate problem is there is no urine test to see who is positive or negative for being potential threat. That is the issue.

    • ArcticGrayling

      May Allah burn n hell.

  • justinwachin

    I have no problem keeping track of visitors to our nation. I have a big problem if a registry is created for American citizens. As Americans we have a first amendment right to worship God as we see fit and to peaceably assemble. The government has no business tracking law-abiding Americans.

    • Mary

      They have a false God!!!

  • Mary

    No brainer!!!

  • chw2000

    Isn’t Social Security a registry? I think that could be consider one and every man, woman, and child in America is supposed to have a Social Security number. Hos many has that hurt?

  • Lee

    We need strong borders and we need to keep Illegal immigration from happening. Legal immigration only.

    • shamu9

      We Have TOO Many Damned Moochers Now!! Why don’t the Immigrants go to Mexico?? No Goddamned Welfare There! Protest There an’ they Disappear Ya!!

  • Angelika K Griffin

    How will we ever have a country when millions of people come here by just running across the boarder and nobody knows who they are and /or what their intentions are…??? And I certainly welcome a Muslim registry because some of them are radicals and want to do us harm, our religions are totally different, we celebrate life, NOT death, at least I thought that Christians are not and are not supposed to be savages/barbarians like RADICAL Muslims are and they have their countries with everything provided for them, like Sharia Law, it is their law and they can keep it in the middle east, we are Christians here and have our law/laws that we gladly live by…..

    • FAITH47

      AMEN!!!!! TO THAT.

  • bobnstuff

    http://www.americanlaw.com/alienreg.html
    Do you think Trumps rules might look like this? It’s been the law for 13 years.

  • Maggie

    “could recommend a registry for immigrants from Muslim countries and countries with significant problems with terrorism,” Okay fine! Christians and other groups are coming from these regions so it is NOT for Muslims but for ALL coming from those regions.

    • Mike Thomas

      So what is your problem with Christians?
      The fastest way to know if they are Christians or not, offer them a ham sandwich or any other pork, or just have them hold a live baby pig. You have will instant vetting.

      • slbush7

        Or a Pizza

  • doug

    Can one imagine what this USA would look like in one year under Hillary rotten Clinton, America would be overrun by so called little Isis JV teams as idiot Obama calls them, if we are to allow Muslims to enter into America they as well as all immigrants must be registered and watched, all mosques must be monitored, they are not a religion if peace, if they were, the other Muslims would be at war with there own people. This madness must stop and we have to protect the innocent from these thugs! Way to go Trump!

  • Rodney Steward

    Here we have Trump trying to protect our country, and the DNC wanting to put a radical black muslim Keith Ellison head of the DNC, how much further left can they go, and and they can’t understand why they got bashed in the election in every part of the system, and even lost a lot of voters in the process!! The American people does not want your far left idiocy!

    • Mary

      Dems are so stupid. Doubling down on why they lost. Keep it up. Remember pride cometh before the fall. Stupid to their own demise.

      • Rodney Steward

        The Dems. have truly become an evil bunch!

  • Rick D.

    If we don’t enforce the laws on the books that address illegal immigration, then what’s to stop someone from choosing to overlook or disregard other laws?

  • KT

    OK! People….there is a difference here in these 2 groups!!!! Illegal immigrants are those crossing our boarders without legal rights to do so…..But, our States have allowed them to come over here & work on Visa’s for cheap labor! Do you know 1.00 $ earned here in the US for them, is 12.00 to 14.00 $’s over in Mexico???? It is the boarder States fault for allowing this in the first place, we did it to ourselves….the business people; companies did this for financial gain! So, who is really @ fault??? Now the Muslims are refugees fleeing from a land in war, just like in times in the past from other wars, the Asians, Germans, the Jewish people. It is their faith, the Muslim beliefs that we do not need or want over here, because it is a false god they serve, which now they have become a snare to our Nation! The Muslims do not want to convert to the American ways, they want us to be like them…..and when we do not agree they shed blood over it! They all need to go back to their own country’ s……but they are in shambles & must be rebuilt, so America & other Nations….like Saudi Arabia; Pakistan & some others need to help them rebuild quickly to get them out of our Nations. The truth be known, these Arabs probably want to go back home…..they have nothing to go back too! This part is called…..Democracy & this should be the only time the US exercises this part of the government.

    • Mike Thomas

      First you must know the Muslim mind set, world domination and if you do not believe it get a Koran written in English and see for your self.
      ISIS is the J.V. team Obummer said they were. He knows we have not seen the varsity team yet. When their Imam, world leader, comes on the seen all Muslims will obey his commands. Then ALL Muslims will join together to fight U.S. and everyone that is not a Muslim.
      Get ready dip all your bullets in pigs blood.

    • slbush7

      Gees,I love it that Trump took the reigns. I have always liked him. Law and Order. remember Martha Stewart wrongly imprisoned for nothing serious at all? Donald knew it and sent his jet to take her from prison in style. No fan fare. Just a cool guy, patriot.

    • ArcticGrayling

      We need not care whether a Muslim Arab would want to eventually go home or not. I don’t care that they are refugees from war and I don’t care what they think or how they think, as long as they are not among us. We don’t need them and I sure as hell don’t want them anywhere near me. I wouldn’t lift a finger to help any of them.

      I am utterly indifferent about their well being. I am more concerned about a stray dog’s well being than I am about theirs. I would help a dog that needed it before I would help them.

      • KT

        You are like arguing with yourself…..hothead!

        • ArcticGrayling

          Not being a hothead at all. I don’t wish them harm if they don’t misbehave. I just don’t want them around me or even in my country. They are not civilized and don’t belong here.

  • bobnstuff

    Why not register all non citizens? We could have the go to their local post office every January and fill out a form. Make them fill change of address cards when they move. Why stop at just Muslims? We could give them ID cards that will let employers know if they can legally work in this country. We could color those cards green. It’s the Muslims today but it could be the Irish next of the those nasty Jews.

    • Dennis McLain

      I guess you haven’t read about what it takes to become a citizen or even to get a green card here in this country. Check it out you don’t seem to know. Anyone naturally born here with parents that are citizens are citizens by birthright not requiring vetting, just a birth certificate. A driver’s license is a valid ID proving you did show a birth certificate at one time or another to get the driver’s license. That is also why you should not give ILLEGAL ALIENS or REFUGEES driver’s licenses. They are not citizens of this country and therefore do not have any rights monetarily or to vote. Read the laws, not what Obama or any other officials are trying to tell people, but just check the laws.

      • bobnstuff

        I have checked the laws, have you or are you trusting the media. Anyone who is in the country is extended most of the rights under our constitution, legal or not, visitors or residents and are given most of the same rights. We register all people coming into our country. It’s been that way for a very long time. Using a drivers license for proof of citizenship is stupid and only people who have no knowledge of how things work would do it. The license only proves who you are and never has had anything to do with citizenship.

        We have protection under the constitution for both religion. Registering citizens based on their beliefs would be prohibited under the first amendment and there is no religious test for coming into our free nation for that very reason.

        Immigrating to the US isn’t easy for anyone, it take one to two years normally to do it even for refugees. The paper work seems endless. We brought in my son in law from Russia and it took two years. This is a guy with two masters degrees and one PHD. He is an internationally respected expert on terrorism. He was married to an American citizen. It still took almost two years. We don’t just let anybody in.

        • slbush7

          With Obama things have changed. Look around.

          • bobnstuff

            No they haven’t. The law has been enforced. Please check YOUR facts. I gave you a link.

      • Murph68

        I think we also need to end the “birthright” provision. Too many illegals are abusing that as a means to stay in the country. Anyone born in the U.S. to an illegal should only be able to stay if the parents follow the same path to citizenship that all other foreign-born Americans had to. We don’t ask people to change their customs or beliefs, however, we should EXPECT a certain amount of learning & assimilation if they intend to stay in the U.S. It’s a small price to pay for the freedoms we enjoy in this country.

        • Dennis McLain

          I agree with that too Murph68.

  • Tiger

    My mother and grandfather were on a registry and no citizenship for close to nine years. Monthly visits from government officials. Immigrants after WWII were all treated like this if they came from questionable countries. My mother was born in Siberia and my grandfather had been a Consul in his time.

    That of course was when we were sane. This new America is not.

  • Karll

    I suggest to anyone that has a problem with vetting the
    hell out of these “refugees” that they take another long
    look at the NYC 911 footage.

    • bobnstuff

      http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/politics/syrian-refugees-u-s-applicants-explainer/index.html
      Could you go through this vetting and be let into the country?

    • slbush7

      That is correct. Look at France. They are messed up now. How horrible for that country.

    • CharlieSeattle

      and this too……………

      9/11 Pentagon Attack – Behind the Smoke Curtain – Barbara Honegger

      https://youtu.be/4fvJ8nFa5Qk

    • CharlieSeattle

      and this too….

      UK Man Wins Court Case Against BBC For 9-11 WTC 7 Cover Up (Video)

      Thursday, September 19, 2013

      http://beforeitsnews.com/9-11-and-ground-zero/2013/09/uk-man-wins-court-case-against-bbc-for-9-11-wtc-7-cover-up-video-2440298.html

      Tony Rooke refused to pay a TV license fee because the BBC intentionally misrepresented facts about the 9/11 attacks, he alleged. It is widely known that the BBC reported the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 over 20 minutes before it occurred. WTC 7 was a 47-story skyscraper that was not hit by a plane on 9/11 but collapsed at free-fall speed later that day.

      So Rooke said the BBC had to have had prior knowledge to a terror attack making them complicit in the attack. He presented the BBC footage to the judge along with a slew of other evidence, and the judge agreed that Rooke had a reasonable case to protest. Rooke was found not guilty and he was not fined for failure to pay the licensing fee.

      For all intents and purposes a UK ccourt has just ruled that the BBC was complicit in the september 11th, 2001 attacks in the United States. Fantastic.

  • Jose

    What is needed is for muslims to pledge to fight terrorists by denouncing terrorists and ISIS. This would show “the world” that they are against all that the terrorists/ISIS stands for. No need to pick on all of one nationality just because there are terrorists from their country.

    • slbush7

      You can’t just ask them as they will do a Hillary thing, lie!

    • CharlieSeattle

      …muslims to pledge to fight terrorists by denouncing terrorists and ISIS?

      You do not understand “Apostasy” and “Taqiyya”

      “There is no such thing as a Moderate Muslim, only Apostate ones!”

      stumpknocker77.wordpress.com/2015/12/06/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-moderate-muslim-only-apostate-ones/

      Many Muslims living in Islamic countries have no problem with the rule of putting apostates to death. The examples of Robert Hussein of Kuwait, Abdul Rahman of Afghanistan, and Bahaa el-Din Ahmed Hussein el-Akkad of Egypt come to mind. These ugly Muslim governments are succored by the West’s finances and blood while they impose an imperial and brutal religion upon its citizens.

      On the other hand, Muslims living in the West are embarrassed by this death sentence. The West values the freedoms of thought and speech, Islam does not, and these virtues have never blossomed under Islamic rule. Consequently, when asked about the Islamic law for apostates many Western Muslims do their best to cover up Islam’s edict. Motivated by conviction, or shame, they make up various defenses and say whatever they can to put your mind at ease and make Islam more acceptable to a naïve, gullible, and ignorant Western audience.

      >>> The way around that little Catch 22, …is to lie.
      >>> The Taqiyya Factor

      americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/the_taqiyya_factor.html

      Taqiyya is an Islamic doctrine that allows Muslims to deceive non-Muslims. As in lie to them. Dr. Sami Mukaram, author of Taqiyya in Islam, writes: “Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it…

      >>> President Obama expertly practices Taqiyya.

  • Loony tune

    What is going to hurt to have a registry? At least you will know who and where they are. Just give them a device that tracks them. If they throw it away or loose it deport them. We have to stop them from destroying our country. Everyone needs to read a little history about the muslims and their war on the world for thousands of years. Keep them in their countries that they have all ready destroyed.

    • Mary

      They are untrustworthy . The Koran gives them a pass on lying to kill the infadel. Yes every American needs to do a little homework and realize their beliefs. It amazes me how one day they are”normal” go overseas and become radicalized. Sometimes they don’t even go anywhere and become potential killers.

  • American Me

    Illegal Immigration must be stopped and Muslims from anywhere must be kept out of our country.They are KILLERS and do not respect human life.We don’t want or need them here.I would like to see all illegals deported no matter who they are or how long they have been breaking the law by just by being here.They have no rights and we don’t want them taking jobs from real Americans..America and Americans FIrst.No more free money or anything else for illegal aliens.I hope President elect Trump passes E-Verify and enforces it.

    • Tiger

      Ecaxtly.

    • Dexter L. Wilson

      I agree with you. Ultimately, just like Christians to the Best of their Ability obey what the New Testament teaches, the Muslim will obey what the Koran says and that is to:
      lie to the unbeliever
      taxing unbelievers until they are converted
      and if you cannot convert the unbeliever you must kill him or her
      and there is a death penalty for those who convert to some other religion.

      why Americans and more specifically Democrats what to allow millions of a religion that does not recognize Democracy AND our laws is beyond me. The one thing they both do is speak out of both sides of their mouth. They will tell you one thing and do another.
      Ask any Muslim who has converted to Christianity. There is no live and let live for the Muslim.

      Why Muslim countries, and there are plenty do those, won’t accept refugees of their own religion unless they know something we do not know. Jordan is the only Muslim country that has really been willing to accept the Syrian Refugees.

      • ArcticGrayling

        Because, as is apparent from things like the CRY IN at Cornell, liberals are clinically insane.

        • Dexter L. Wilson

          They must be!

  • ArcticGrayling

    Hell, Donald. Anybody with even basic powers of observation can see what’s going on. Now it’s time to take any goat fucker on the FBI watch list and give him two choices: a one way trip to Mecca, or indentured servitude on a pig farm. Any sand nigger who has beaten his wife, as is prescribed by the Koran, can do 5 minutes in the ring with the UFC heavyweight champ.

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