Will Cruz Be Trump’s VP or Supreme Court Pick? ‘We Have Things in Mind for Ted’

by BREITBART NEWS  |  published on December 13, 2015

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has finally unleashed a verbal assault on the one rival he has so far spared.

Trump went after Sen. Ted Cruz at a town hall event in Iowa Friday evening, accusing the Texas senator of being beholden to big oil companies because he opposes ethanol subsidies, which are deeply popular in this agricultural state.

“He’s a nice guy. I mean, everything I say he agrees with me, no matter what I say,” Trump began. “But with the ethanol, really, he’s got to come a long way.”

  • Rick Stanley

    Trump/Cruz 2016. Cruz/Trump 2016. Good with either.

  • Veritas Vincit

    I do NOT want another money demanding politician in charge of our country and NEITHER DOES ANY smart person who values his/her hard earned dollars!

    As a wake up call to all those who say we don’t need to worry about Cruz…he is ALSO a money grubbing POLITICIAN and for those of you who say he is not eligible, think…DID THAT STOP OBAMA, who was born in Kenya and applied to a school in California as a foreign citizen?

    I agree with those who do not want Cruz or Rubio or ANY OTHER POLITICIAN! WE ARE ALL SICK AND TIRED OF POLITICIANS! We want an experienced and savvy businessman like Trump for President so he can help turn around the economy and keep out ISIS because they know Trump won’t take any messing from them. We want someone who is not a politician for VP…Carson, for example, would fix the healthcare system or any other non politician as VP, who has the knowledge and experience to get things done, not just talk about it, then use those lobbying/bribe dollars for his own agenda and personal benefit.

    In WWII, just to MAKE SURE no hidden spies were trying to pass for good people, all Japanese were in camps until the war ended. The good Japanese US CITIZENS did not complain because, as they themselves said, they wanted to stay in the US as it was and NOT be part of a dictatorship.
    The Japanese in JAPAN AND ESPECIALLY THEIR LEADER(s) were crooked because their PM was in Washington, D. C. and NY “negotiating peace, when he had already given the order to bomb Peal Harbor THAT SAME MORNING!

    YOU DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH PEOPLE WHO CANNOT BE TRUSTED AND BELIEVE ME, WE CANNOT TRUST ISIS/JIHADISTS, ETC., WHO ARE ALREADY AMONG US, TRYING TO PASS THEMSELVES OFF AS PEACE LOVING MUSLIMS!

    IMAGINE A GUY DRESSING AS A WOMAN WITH THE LONG BLACK DRESS THAT SHOWS ONLY THEIR EYES…THEY COULD BE HIDING AN AK-47 UNDERNEATH THAT ROBE WITHOUT ANYONE SEEING IT UNTIL THEY STARTED SHOOTING!

    SEND ALL ILLEGALS HOME AND SEPARATE ALL MUSLIMS UNTIL WE CAN REALLY CHECK THEIR BACKGROUNDS WITH FACTS, “NOT BY WHAT THEY SAY”.

    OH AND BY THE WAY, WHY IS OBAMA TAKING DOWN NATIVITY SCENES FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AND OTHER FEDERAL BUILDINGS, WHEN OUR COUNTRY WAS BORN “UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE” (NOT UNDER SHARIA LAW, NOT UNDER MUSLIM LAW, ETC.) AND EVEN OUR DOLLAR BILLS SAY “IN GOD WE TRUST”? OBAMA WANTS THIS DONE BECAUSE HE IS A MUSLIM–NOT FOR ANY OTHER REASON, NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS!!!!!!!

  • What liars you are – Cruz went after Trump and was caught on tape – you sound like part of the Republican cabal trying to undermine Trump. FACT; ALL you politicians both Democrat and Republicans are totally untrustworthy and this open faced lie against Trump proves it. Mendacious and scrofulous; duplicitous scoundrels; that is what has become of ALL our Senators and Congressmen – but worst yet, pusillanimous in the face of defeating ogama’s agendas. You can’t control Trump because he is ready to try and bring back America’s ethos and very endemic. You squeal like pigs because he wants to keep dangerous muslims out and you think will lose you votes – that is not what will cost you the election – what you are doing in this article and your other intrigues against Trump if you don’t change will; Cruz is just another politician and it looks like he is becoming part of the Republican elite, the Bohner bunch. Trump is a successful businessman, America is a Capitalist country, our military and money made us great – we were the world’s breadbasket, we were the world’s melting pot; we were the richest country in the world; we were the world’s greatest manufacturing country, we were etc., etc., but you politicians have taken the greatest country in the world in history and driven us to a near dystopia. You have no shame! Do you think that ALL Americans are fools, that you can boldfaced lie? No wonder this country is in trouble; we gave the Republicans the power and you have done nothing – when the Democrats had the power they nearly have wrecked America influencing 50% of this nation’s people into fractious groups who all hate aimed at Republicans is because of you craven character and abuse of power. If there are any real Americans that actually care more about America, i.e., Democrats, Republicans, Tea Party and independents, than they do about party politics, racism, stupidity and ignorance of political correctness, immigration, muslims, etc., etc., you will not put a politician in the White House – we have actually three good choices; Trump, Carson and even Palin (she would have made a good vice-president and if the values she had as governor are still in tact, she or Carson would be good VP’s) – but Cruz has now proved he is simply just another politician – and Hillary is a crook, the rest of the Democrats for president are fools, Socialists that have done nothing but harm America. Keep attacking Trump, even Democrats, the Tea Party members, undecided independent voters and others will realize that you are afraid of Trump who will take your money toys away, protect America and do what is necessary to make us a government by the People – people by the Government as we have become – our government is shameful!

  • malimut@msn.com
  • malimut@msn.com

    Cruz is not eligible first of all secondly read here.. http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2013/09/ted-cruz/

  • catfleas

    His mother was a citizen and his father was not. Please read this:

    In a number of situations, if you were born to parents, at least one of whom was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, you automatically gained U.S. citizenship through the process of acquisition. It does not matter whether you were born on American soil or foreign. As well, if you have children, those children will also acquire U.S. citizenship through you at their birth. – See more at: http://immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/u-s-citizenship-through-parents-or-by-birth.html/#sthash.rjoghqgS.dpuf

    Therefore, since he had duel citizenship he gave up his citizenship as a Canadia . It then became a moot point.

    Don’t you think the Dems would be spinning on their heads if he was not a citizen? He would not have made it this far!

    • Veritas Vincit

      Please check your spelling and grammar. A “Duel” is when two people fight to the death with weapons. You meant “dual” from the Latin word “duo” meaning “two” (and I mean the original Latin language, NOT what many apply to people who speak Spanish and worse, the term used for only a person of male gender. No offense intended. We conservatives are all for truth and correct spelling right?

  • Veritas Vincit

    No,
    it would more likely be Carson, to fix healthcare, since he isca doctor and
    knows the problems too well. Also, that way, he will get the black vote.
    With Cruz he would get the Spanish speaking votes, most of whom are
    illegals…PLUS, cruz is just another politician asking for money and people
    are ALL sick of politicians asking for money. We are ALl sick of
    politicians accepting lobbying, which is actually bribery!

    In other countries, bribery of politicians is done openly. In the US, bribery has
    been done all the time but “under the table” and called lobbying!

  • Lougjr1

    I will back Trump now and urge him to stop attacking his own people except those who viciously attack him. I also urge him to start attacking the right people like the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton, who are the worse excuse for a leader that anyone could come up with. If that is the only capable leadership they can come up with, we are finished as a nation. Can you imagine Clinton being the commander in chief of our armed forces. GOD help us ! We know we made a grave mistake in 2007, let us not make the same mistake in 2016. It is time to hire a non politician like Trump who has the ability to turn this country into a winning team and save our democracy ! We have been taken so far to the left end of the scope that it is absolutely necessary to elect a conservative in order to steer this monstrous ship in the right direction. That’s the way I see it and hope enough people see it the same way ! Semper FI !

    • don

      you need to explain own people–when our whole congress votes left

  • Armin

    Google: Natural born citizen clause

  • Patrick Brown

    The 1790 Naturalization act was repealed in 1795. It was unconstitutional. Madison told us that laws which were contrary to the Constitution were unconstitutional. The Supreme court concurred in Marbury vs Madison saying that laws which are “repugnant” to the Constitution are unconstitutional.
    Therefore Obama is NOT the POTUS and Cruz, Rubio and Jindal are not eligible!

  • dmttbt

    I am still for Trump even though I disagree about the ethanol. Just like everything else the government gets behind the ethanol has hurt the prices of other foods. The use of corn for fuel could be great, I just don’t trust the government on anything. They have spent so much money in supposedly running the country they have broken the country

    • KDC

      After what Monsanto has done to the corn, it would be great for fuel. It’s not good for consumption.

    • don

      iys got to go–its really like an acid–you can not pump it through steal pike or prumps–it has to be carried in a fiberglass tanker–an it not good for your car–an here is the kicker–the corn its takes to make it could feed part of the world

  • YeahBut

    Cruz should be President.

    • Judy McKinney

      I disagree–Trump should. But Cruz would be a good VP, and later Pres. IF he is eligible. We screwed up royally with Obama, but hopefully we will do it right this time.

      • KDC

        We’d all be lucky if either one would get in. Let pray nothing happens before then.

      • freedomoutpost ken

        So you are buying into all the Trump PR campaign? Sound bites change nothing.

      • don

        sorry time we don.t have

  • kibitzer3

    Cruz could be on the SCOTUS. But he can’t be VP. For the same reason that he can’t be POTUS. And if the American people would grow a pair – led by such so-called conservative bodies as this one – they would call the Usurper on the same issue: because he is not a “natural born” citizen. Which, according to easily accessible historical evidence, means, and meant to the constitutional Framers, one born on the soil of citizen parents. That’s PLURAL. As in BOTH. The whole POINT of the exercise on the part of the constitutional Framers having been to make sure that the occupant of that office, who would as well then become the Commander in Chief of the nation’s military forces, had NO DUAL/CONFLICTING LOYALTIES OR ALLEGIANCES. As a naturalized citizen would be subject to. And as a DUAL citizen would MOST CERTAINLY be subject to. Like Cruz. And like Obama.

    DUH.

    And before you say another word, my answer is; TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT.

    Else you’re living under the rule of men, rather than the rule of law. And your next stop is full-on TYRANNY, from the chaos that ensues when you leave BEHIND the rule of law.

    Which any child of the age of six should know. Or could be woken up TO know.

    • Upaces

      I have been saying the very same thing and I get blasted.
      It doesn’t matter if he is a nice guy; and/or good at his job.
      We didn’t “allow it the first time. It was shoved down our collective Country’s throat.

      Now this? This opens the door more even more HUGE problems IF we knowingly let it happen again. That Slope is way, way to slippery. Who would be next?!! If we stretch our imaginations, this would turn into, eventually, NWO. Who would be next if we allow it again!!!

      People have argued with me about it because they like him. Hey! I like him too. That is NOT the point…NOT FOR PRESIDENT or even Vice President.

      • KDC

        If you’re comparing the situation of Cruz with BO, it’s not the same thing, now, is it. BO is a lying usurper with no origional credentials. They are fakes, like he is.
        However, in your defense, they NEVER should mess or change what the founding father’s documents say or meant. They had good reasons for saying things the way they did, so I don’t agree with changing their origional documemt’s wording.

        • Upaces

          Oooooh, Noooo, I would never put Cruz in the same category as Obama! EVER!
          I liked (past tense) in the beginning. He lost my trust when he SAID he would “appeal” Obama’s HCB. Then he turned around and sign up with his wife (works for Goldman Sachs).

          I totally agree with you 100% about the Founding Fathers and the Original Documents. They work! Well, they did until……………

      • don

        the big problem with the muslims is they want to be here but have no plans of being us –they want to make a muslim country where ever they go–an killing to get it is no problem

        • freedomoutpost ken

          and the stupid host close their eyes and let it happen. Look how Geraldo changed his tune when he thought his daughter was in danger. That is what will have to happen to all liberals before they do anything, and when the smoke clears they will go back to the same old ways.

          • leithel1

            Just as Geraldo did.

        • marshmil

          It appears that many immigrants, legal included, want to come to USA, land of plenty, and NOT be us. They want to resettle and remain what they came from. The only difference being the location on the planet.

      • leithel1

        Or Speaker of tne house.

      • skipsart

        You should have a million up votes Upaces.

        You are absolutely correct.

    • don

      i say to you its been allowed for 8 years –an nothing will be done for 8 more –we do nothing but set an bitch

      • Wmdoright

        Permitted perhaps don because America has been asleep to their scheming and your right, ‘bitch’ we have, and the larger part of America has been awaken to the plot. So don do your part and “bitch” some more it seems to have worked!

      • KDC

        You would have WWIV in the US if they ousted him. Correction, wrong war. You’d have another civil war if they ousted him!

        • skipsart

          If there is a civil war, which side will have by far the most guns?………….;-)

      • azsequaya

        SOME of us do “WAY MORE” than “SIT” and bitch,,

    • YeahBut

      You are actually incorrect. Congress passed the Naturalization Act in 1790 which clarified that people born of US Citizens on foreign soil are naturalized US citizens. It happens all the time with children born to people stationed abroad, etc. separately, but more importantly, he was raised with allegiances to this country–something clearly not the case for King Obama. Cruz has the intellect, talent, conviction and diplomacy to turn this country around.

      • Judy McKinney

        If I understand it correctly–yes, Cruz was born in Canada, but if BOTH his parents were US citizens, he would be fine. BUT his father wasn’t a US citizen, was he? Only his mother.
        I agree that since he was raised in the US, he would be suitable–like Obama, raised in a Muslim country, is NOT suitable. His allegiance will always be Muslim.

        • Juan TwoTree

          TRUMP/CRUZ in 2016!!

        • freedomoutpost ken

          Obama’s Father was not a US citizen either.

          • don

            so what you seen us do anything about it?–no we set

          • skipsart

            Better say that again as nobody has a clue to what you were attempting to say.

          • Pam

            “Stewardess, I speak jive.”

          • skipsart

            Why would you do that when the whole point of communicating is to be duplicated?

          • marshmil

            What? Please reword that with standard English. Thanks.

          • Faithful American

            He’s an AFRICAN, like Obama. When HE was in Kenya THIS YEAR, Obama said he was the FIRST KENYAN AFRICAN US PRESIDENT. He also ADMITTED on TV during an INTERVIEW with George Stephanopolous, that he IS a MUSLIM! He has done so OTHER times, and it was RECORDED on TV!

          • freedomoutpost ken

            It has been obvious from the beginning.

        • Paul Revere Media

          Cruz father was not a citizen at the time of his birth. Therefore, he is a citizen not not a natural born citizen.

          • leithel1

            Rubios’ parents were not citizens at the time of his birth. They both became naturalized citizens after he was born.

          • R. Lee Johnson

            Then they are both unqualified.

        • Marty

          His mother was a Natural Born US Citizen. His father was a citizen of Cuba. They were both working in Canada at the time of his birth and both lived in the US prior to working in Canada. The Naturalization Act of 1790 specifically says a child born to an American Mother and a non citizen father who had previously resided in the US, the child is A Natural Born Citizen. The Act of 1790 was replaced with the Act of 1795, however the NBC clause remained.

          • azsequaya

            INCORRECT !!!!

          • Marty

            READ THE ACT!!!!

          • azsequaya

            Read “Paul Revere Media ” below,, 6th one , he has it correct. I HAVE READ IT,, over & over,, Paul Revere is right !!!

          • Marty

            That is all way above my head. So what you are saying is these court cases supersede the wording in the various Naturalization acts?

          • azsequaya

            Naturalization “Acts” & “Natural Born” are birds of two different feathers!! I`am going by what our “Founding Fathers Knew, Expected to happen & wrote into Our Constitution to prevent future Tyranny in Our new Country”!!!

          • Marty

            Yes, but the act specifically states in this clause “Natural Born Citizen” where in other parts talks about naturalized citizen. There is no doubt what Congress’ intent was. And as this is an act of Congress, unless the courts rule it unconstitutional, I don’t understand how a court can change acts of congress. I always thought that’s why we had three distinct branches and the legislative branch was to write the laws, not the judicial. Course we now know the executive can take the place of all three.

          • azsequaya

            YEP,,, And the reason they get away with Executive Orders is because Lincoln declared Martial Law & they killed him before he rescinded it,,, we`ve been under Martial Law since 1863 !!!

          • Marty

            It seems you may be more right then wrong.

          • skipsart

            Fabulous !!!

          • Faithful American

            THANK YOU, MARTY!!

        • Faithful American

          Cruz is a CHRISTIAN and his DAD is a CHRISTIAN PASTOR. Cruz has NO ALLEGIANCE to ISLAM. You FAILED to MENTION that FACT.

          • skipsart

            Religion has nothing to do with being a Natural Born Citizen

          • marshmil

            Nobody has said religion has to do with being a Natural Born Citizen.

          • skipsart

            Faithful American did, I’m not trying to be divisive, just pointing out a fact is all.

          • marshmil

            While religion has nothing to do with Natural Born Citizen being a spiritually reborn Christian is a far better risk for the US Presidency than a Muslim whose agenda is destruction of the United States of America. It’s the track record that matters. We now have a Kenyan-born Muslim in the Crescent Office who has publicly stated he will side with Islam–thanks to the low information voters who put him there. It’s easier to pick color than to connect dots. And here I’m just pointing out facts.

          • marshmil

            Error! cancel this.

          • skipsart

            And I am in complete agreement with you.

          • marshmil

            Being Christian certifies that Cruz lacks an agenda to overthrow the US Constitutional government. Cannot say that about a Muslim whose religion demands overthrow of everything not Muslim.

          • dmttbt

            Anyone can say they are a Christian. That means nothing.

          • marshmil

            I fully agree. I think many “church members” are really CINO. “Membership” helps their business and social relationships–not their relationship with God.

        • marshmil

          Islam’s agenda is to overthrow everything that does not support Islam. Therefore Islam is an enemy of the USA. So a Muslim cannot “support and defend the Constitution of the United States?” Therefore those who supported and installed Barack Hussein Obama as pResident are enemies of the USA.
          Ted Cruz, Donald Trump and Ben Carson do not fit into any anti-America agenda.

      • fpo

        Thank you “yeahbut” for this clarification. Ted Cruz would be a great President if the American people will allow him.

        • freedomoutpost ken

          He kind of reminds you of Reagan in getting his points across.

          • 7papa7

            IMHO Cruz is to this time in history as Reagan was to the 80’s. He is the perfect choice. He is strong, he is pro American, pro Constitution, pro Military etc. He would turn America around in the same way Reagan did. Will he be perfect, of course not but he will be great and the one absolute is he will always put America first.

          • freedomoutpost ken

            Exactly.

        • skipsart

          Yeabut just confused the hell out of you.

        • marshmil

          fpo the AMERICAN people will allow Ted Cruz. It’s the progressive low-information anti-America voters who supported the Muslim socialist for “change” and monthly trinkets who will cast votes for another anti-American candidate.

      • dmttbt

        I don’t want Ted Cruz as president, because he is a politician and I have decided that those people cannot be trusted. The definition of the citizenship by Yeah but is correct. Now the government without balls or brains has decided that it means anchor babies. They are suppose to write the laws and can’t interpret the ones we have. The other big thing about Obama is his parents were communist and so were his grandparents. I don’t think America would have voted for that.

        • freedomoutpost ken

          You are right and wrong at the same time. Yes, Cruz is a politician, but he is a politician the established politicians hate. Cruz has been doing what his constituents elected him to do and he has been successful in slowing down the Government tyranny. Cruz would be a huge improvement as President, VP or as an appointment to the SCOTUS.

          • marshmil

            Wonderfully stated freedomoutpost ken.

          • freedomoutpost ken

            Thank you.

          • dmttbt

            That might be true but as I said we have learned not to trust what politicians say. If Cruz is telling the truth that is fine, if not we are in trouble again. Like I said they all talk a good game, I say all other than Trump and he is telling the truth, something we are not used to hearing. I don’t want more refugees because we don’t know anything about them except the fact we cannot trust them. The bull s hit about we can’t ban a certain people because of the Constitution is really grasping for an excuse. The government we have doesn’t go by the Constitution anyway except when it suits them. The border is suppose to be closed but they have used every excuse in the world to leave it open. I say concertina wire and very high voltage. they will only climb it once.

          • freedomoutpost ken

            I say “If they don’t enforce our laws they belong in jail.” Then the bullshit will stop.

        • don

          WE let them do as they please–SO what do you expect?

          • marshmil

            Who is “them?”

        • leithel1

          They voted for him because of his skin color, because they think he is afro america, or that he is black, no other reason.

          • marshmil

            leithel1 you are likely correct. Picking out the color is much easier than connecting the dots which requires evaluating which requires mental effort.

        • Faithful American

          “I have decided that those people cannot be trusted.” Those are the REMARKS of an UNEDUCATED person; NOT of an EDUCATED person. What does Obama have to DO with Ted Cruz??!! NOTHING! By the way, Ted Cruz does NOT SUPPORT AMNESTY but Marco Rubio DOES, so your comment about “anchor babies” has NOTHING to DO with Ted Cruz!

        • marshmil

          But dmttbt the fact is—low information voters DID vote for Barack Obama who is a Socialist. Socialism is the stepping stone to Communism. So you don’t want a politician for President. Wake up! ALL candidates are politicians. So how do YOU propose we select the next President?

          • dmttbt

            That is what I am saying it is not necessarily low information as much as it is bad information. If they see it on the news, that makes it true. Misinformed let’s say.

      • Paul Revere Media

        1. The Slaughterhouse Cases 83 U.S. 36 (1873) The Fourteenth Amendment excludes the children of aliens. “The phrase, “subject to its jurisdiction” was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.”

        2. Minor v. Happersett 88 U.S. 162 (1874) The Fourteenth Amendment draws a distinction between the children of aliens and children of citizens. “The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.”
        3. Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94 (1884) The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction” requires “direct and immediate allegiance” to the United States, not just physical presence. “This section contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only: birth and naturalization. The persons declared to be citizens are “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards except by being naturalized, either individually, as by proceedings under the naturalization acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.”
        4. Wong Kim Ark Case, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) Affirms that “natural born citizen,” is the child of an existing citizen. “The right of citizenship never descends in the legal sense, either by the common law or under the common naturalization acts. It is incident to birth in the country, or it is given personally by statute. The child of an alien, if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle.”
        5. Perkins v. Elg, 307 U. S. 325 (1939) In citing a long series of cases, involving minors removed from their US domicile by their foreign born parents, the Supreme Court distinguishes the difference of “a native born person” of two naturalized citizens can become President. This distinction of citizenship is not made to the others, only that their Jus soli citizenship is intact if at the age of majority they reclaim it.

        As you can see from the intent of the Founding Fathers to the Supreme Court decision that “a natural born” is the child of citizens. A natural born citizen is not the child of an alien. In this there is no doubt.

        • skipsart

          And to add to this, during that time period, most everybody, at least in first world countries knew what a Natural Born Citizen was. Even children knew this. So that is why it wasn’t spelled out so much in the Constitution or anywhere else. It was common knowledge. It’s all in Vattel’s “Law of Nations” which all of the Founding Fathers read and agreed with.

      • azsequaya

        “Naturalization” & “Natural Born Citizen”, ARE 2 DIFFERENT things !!! Until recently,,, Cruz WAS a “Dual Citizen” & his Father was NOT a U.S. Citizen at the time of Ted`s Birth !!!

        • skipsart

          Again azsequaya, you are correct !

      • Faithful American

        AMEN!! READ what I wrote, ABOVE. My SON was BORN in WEST GERMANY while WE were STATIONED there in the ARMY. My SON has BOTH an US BIRTH CERTIFICATE from the US Department of State and ALSO a GERMAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Had he NOT had a US PASSPORT and been AMENDED to my WIFE’S passport, he COULD have received a GERMAN DRAFT NOTICE to SERVE in the GERMAN ARMY when he turned 18 YRS. of AGE, even though his BIRTH took PLACE in a US ARMY HOSPITAL, and even though his DAD and MOM are both AMERICANS, like HE is!

        • marshmil

          I would have thought that a child born on property controlled by the US Government by way of rent, contract, or whatever would be considered to have been born in the USA. The German birth certificate here is nonsense. Your son is NOT a German Citizen unless at appropriate adult age he voluntarily formally became a German citizen.

      • skipsart

        Wrong. It has little to do to where they are born. Suppose the parents (US citizens) are overseas on an extended trip and the child was born before they got home. The child would still be a US citizen. So, It has everything to do with both parents being US citizens at the time of birth of said candidate. Think this through and it will make sense. The whole point is to do away with the possibility of conflicting loyalties or mix allegiances.

    • Armin

      I totally agree. Cruz and Rubio could never be president if you apply the law of natural born parents.

      • freedomoutpost ken

        What is the law on “natural born parents”? Never heard that one, I thought it referred to someone running for President or VP?

        • KDC

          Currently, citizenship in the U.S. is governed by the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. The most recent changes to statutory law was done by Congress in 2001. So since this most recent debate has circulated around Cruz, I am going to focus on one particular section… birth abroad to one U.S. citizen.
          There are a certain set of rules for those born after November 14, 1986, but I’m focusing on the rules at the time of Cruz’s birth, which are the rules that were in effect from December 24, 1952 – November 14, 1986. A person born abroad between those dates is a U.S. citizen upon birth if all of the following are true:
          The person’s parents were married at the time of birth;
          One of the person’s parents was a U.S. citizen when the person was born;
          The citizen parent lived at least ten years in the United States before the child’s birth; and

          A minimum of 5 of these 10 years in the United States were after the citizen parent’s 14th birthday.
          By these very definitions of the law, it would appear that Cruz is a natural-born citizen and thus meets the qualifications to run for president.

          • freedomoutpost ken

            Legal experts have been saying that since people began questioning Cruz’s eligibility.

          • KDC

            No, you’re correct. I was misinterpreting what I was reading.

          • azsequaya

            Not “True” ,, This makes Ted an American “Citizen”, NOT a “Natural Born Citizen”, You said it yourself,, “a U.S. citizen” upon birth !!

          • KDC

            Siyo … Hope you are well. You know, I never thought of it in that way. It does say citizen. Why didn’t I see that before? Natural born IS different. I feel pretty embarrassed now. I was missing the whole point.
            However, it’s not as bad as what BO is. He’s not even a citizen.
            Merry Christmas if I don’t speak to you again before then.

        • don

          low info

          • azsequaya

            Possibly,, his mind and his fingers were not in sync with each other…

        • malimut@msn.com
    • KDC

      Check and see what they did in 1952, and 2001. Good grief.
      Currently, citizenship in the U.S. is governed by the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. The most recent changes to statutory law was done by Congress in 2001. So since this most recent debate has circulated around Cruz, I am going to focus on one particular section… birth abroad to one U.S. citizen.

      There are a certain set of rules for those born after November 14, 1986, but I’m focusing on the rules at the time of Cruz’s birth, which are the rules that were in effect from December 24, 1952 – November 14, 1986. A person born abroad between those dates is a U.S. citizen upon birth if all of the following are true:
      The person’s parents were married at the time of birth;
      One of the person’s parents was a U.S. citizen when the person was born;
      The citizen parent lived at least ten years in the United States before the child’s birth; and
      A minimum of 5 of these 10 years in the United States were after the citizen parent’s 14th birthday.
      By these very definitions of the law, it would appear that Cruz is a natural-born citizen and thus meets the qualifications to run for president.

    • KDC

      I agree with what you say, but they changed the wording.

      • KDC

        Kibitzers3… You are correct. Natural born is NOT the same thing as just a citizen, though better than a usurper like BO!

    • skipsart

      I’ve been saying the same thing and i am happy to find other people with similar truths and are willing to speak out.

    • Pam

      I usually don’t agree with you, but this time I am inclined to do so. Our Founders and Framers DID fully intend that our presidents be 100% U.S., born of TWO 100% U.S. citizens. Since that time, there have been changes made to the “citizenship requirements”, but I feel that our PRESIDENT should be held to a much higher standard and that the question of his or her loyalty should be unimpeachable BEFORE they are even put on a ballot.
      And I use Barry Soetoro as the perfect example of why this should be the case. His mother’s parents took her and moved to Hawaii, BEFORE it became a state, because they found that the communist community they hooked up with in Washington state was not RADICAL ENOUGH FOR THEM! Then, compound that with the Kenyan commie who was supposed to be his father and you have someone who was clearly raised to HATE THIS COUNTRY.
      I have serious reservations about Rubio, as well. He was born of two Cuban parents. He was born in 1971, His parents weren’t naturalized until 1975. To prove his QUESTIONABLE loyalty, he is PRO amnesty for those who broke our laws to come here AND he wants to dramatically increase a program (H1-B) that companies have already been abusing for years in order to discriminate against QUALIFIED AMERICAN CITIZENS by hiring low wage, third world “workers”.
      Now, having said all that, if Ted Cruz somehow wins the nomination, YOU BET YOUR SWEET BIPPY I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM!

      • kibitzer3

        And if that turns out to be the case, that will be the end of the Constitution, to say the rule of law in this country, and the clear elevation of the rule of men, aka arbitrary law, which is tantamount to tyranny; and thus, the end of the federal constitutional republic of the U.S.A., and the concomitant signal for the entry of the totalitarian New World Order, and its boot stamping forever in the face of humanity.

        Other than that: Thank you for agreeing with me, even if it went against your personal inclinations. You have served Truth well in that regard.

  • kibitzer3

    Cruz could be on the SCOTUS. But he can’t be VP. For the same reason that he can’t be POTUS. And if the American people would grow a pair – led by such so-called conservative bodies as this one – they would call the Usurper on the same issue: because he is not a “natural born” citizen. Which, according to easily accessible historical evidence, means, and meant to the constitutional Framers, one born on the soil of citizen parents. That’s PLURAL. As in BOTH. The whole POINT of the exercise on the part of the constitutional Framers having been to make sure that the occupant of that office, who would as well then become the Commander in Chief of the nation’s military forces, had NO DUAL/CONFLICTING LOYALTIES OR ALLEGIANCES. As a naturalized citizen would be subject to. And as a DUAL citizen would MOST CERTAINLY be subject to. Like Cruz. And like Obama.

    DUH.

    And before you say another word, my answer is; TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT.

    Else you’re living under the rule of men, rather than the rule of law. And your next stop is full-on TYRANNY, from the chaos that ensues when you leave BEHIND the rule of law.

    Which any child of the age of six should know. Or could be woken up TO know.

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