‘California is a nation, not a state’: A fringe movement wants a break from the U.S.

by Katie Zezima | The Washington Post  |  published on February 19, 2017

CA SessionistsSAN FRANCISCO — About 15 people huddled in a luxury apartment building, munching on danishes as they plotted out their plan to have California secede from the United States.

“I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of an independent California,” Geoff Lewis said as he stood in a glass-walled conference room adorned with California’s grizzly-bear flag and a sign reading “California is a nation, not a state.”

Sweaty onlookers from the gym across the hall peered in curiously.

Bolstered by the election of President Trump, the group, Yes California, is collecting the 585,407 signatures necessary to place a secessionist question on the 2018 ballot. Its goal is to have California become its own country, separate and apart from the United States.

  • Tiger

    Oh by all means Set Those People Free.

  • The Redhawk

    Let us Be Clear ” KALIPHORNICATION IS A NATION OF IDIOTS” Now what else is There to say?

  • justinwachin

    California is a land of high taxes, high government spending, highly incompetent politicians and high debt. If they secede they will probably collapse or be invaded within ten years.

    Even if such a vote was successful it would take some time for the federal government to be able to untangle the connections between California and the rest of the nation. They would have to be apportioned their share of the national debt. They would have to come up with their own military and regulatory agencies. It’s unlikely many federal funds would for road construction would go into the state during that time.

  • Daniel C.

    I hope they have valid passports, and visa’s to enter the rest of the states. If you moved to another state from California, you should return, and have to go through the immigration process if you want to return, and you could not run for president, as you would be from another country.

  • REM

    Goodbye and good riddance. Just extend the wall, perhaps consider including Washington state.

  • Rodney Steward

    I go along with these fools, they’re right, they are a pathetic breed and need to be fenced in and anyone trying to leave be shot! They can’t make it, they live OFF THE GOV. and couldn’t make it without the money! I’ve been hoping the D’N place will wash away, or burn up in the summer, we can only pray!

  • Walter Flatt

    MORE FAKE NEWS. THIS IS JUST TO GET TRUMP TO BACK OFF THE SANCTURARY CITY THING, GUESS WHAT HE WILL NOT.

    SHARE THIS WITH EVERYONE YOU CAN.

    OBAMA HAS GIVEN BILLIONS TO MUSLIMS THAT ARE TRYING TO KILL US. ENOUGH TO REBUILD OUR MILITARY AND INFRASTRUCTLURE.

    PRAY THAT THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN, BUT GET READY, PRESIDENT TRUMP, BE VERY CAREFUL, WE HAVE WORKED TO HARD TO LOSE YOU NOW. FIRE EVERYONE ASSOCIATED WITH OBAMA.

    FROM A KOREAN WAR VET 51/53, A REG. DEM. ALL MY LIFE, BUT I VOTED FOR TRUMP & WILL NEVER VOTE DEM AGAIN AS LONG AS THIS LYING CROOKED MESS IS IN D.C.

    HAS OBAMA SET HIMSELF UP TO BE THE HEAD OF A MUSLIM TRY AT TAKING THIS COUNTRY? BETTER THINK! HE IS A MUSLIM SETTING UP HEADQUARTERS WITH HOLDER IN DC, 5 MUSLIM CAMPS JUST ACROSS THE LINE IN NORTH VA. MUSLIM AND FEMA CAMPS ALL OVER THE USA, MOST CLOSE TO MILITARY BASES. HE HAS TAKEN BILLIONS OF YOUR MONEY AND GIVEN TO MUSLIMS AND HAS DONE NOTHING BUT DAMAGE THE USA. BETTER WAKE UP.

    OBAMA HAS GIVEN BILLIONS OF OUR TAX MONEY TO RADICAL MUSLIMS TRYING TO KILL US.

    I BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN SET UP FOR A TRY AT A MUSLIM INVASION OF THIS COUNTRY BY, HILLIARY, OBAMA, KERRY, SORROS AND THE BIASED MEDIA. READ ALL THE WHYS BELOW.

    WHY ISN’T A LAW BEING ENFORCED BARRING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY. THIS LAW WAS PASSED IN 1952. PUBLIC LAW 414, PAGE 2, SECTION 212. ALSO #8 US CODE 482, BARRING ALL INADISSIBLE ALIENS FROM THE USA GOVERNMENT WAS PASSED IN 1952.

    WHY DO YOU THINK ANYTHING OBAMA HAS DONE IS LEGAL, HE HAS CONFESSED TO BEING A MUSLIM ON NATION WIDE TV. EVERYTHING HE HAS SIGNED, OR ORDERED IN 8 YEARS IS ILLEGAL.

    WHY DID HILLIARY HAVE A MUSLIM FROM A RADICAL FAMILY AS HER TOP AIDE FOR 10 YEARS, HUMA COULD BE A PERFECT PIPELINE TO PASS SECRETS TO THE MUSLIM WORLD.

    WHY HAS OBAMA SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH MUSLIMS ANOTHER PERFECT PIPELINE TO PASS SECRETS. HE HAS DECLARED HIMSELF A MUSLIM ON NATIONWIDE TV.

    WHY DOES THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA SAY HE IS NOT A MUSLIM, WHEN I HAVE A LIST OF WHERE 34 TIMES HE HAS EITHER HELPED THEM OR SAID HE WAS ONE.

    WHY GET MAD AT PUTIN, HE SAID THAT THERE WAS NO PLACE IN RUSSIA FOR ANYONE THAT WOULD NOT FOLLOW THEIR LAW AND SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO A COUNTRY THAT DID.

    WHY HAS HILLIARY, OBAMA, KERRY AND THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO HELP THE RADICAL MUSLIMS.

    WHY DID THE OBAMA ADMINSTRATION TRY AND BUY UP ALL AMMO?

    WHY TRADE 5 TERRIOST FROM CUBA FOR ONE TRAITOR?

    WHY TRY AND TAKE OUR GUNS? HITLER DID, & HISTORY TELLS US WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

    WHY ALLOW A MINIMUM OF 37 MUSLIM CAMPS HERE IN THE STATES? MOST CLOSE TO MILITARY BASES. I PERSONALLY VERIFIED THE ONES IN SHAWNEE NATIONAL PARK, IN IL. AND THE ONE AT DOVER, TN. AND THE FEMA CAMP IN EAST KY.

    WHY ARE THERE 5 MUSLIM CAMPS IN N. VIRGINIA, CLOSE TO DC? ARE THEY TO TAKE WASHINGTON?

    WHY BUILD A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, SOME MORE THAN ONE, AT TAX PAYERS EXPENSE, WITH ARMED GUARDS? ARE THEY TO HOLD AND TRAIN MUSLIMS?

    WHY ARE THEY BRINGING THOUSANDS OF YOUNG MUSLIMS HERE?

    WHY IS THE TAX PAYER HAVING TO FEED, CLOTH & HOUSE THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF MUSLIMS BEING BROUGHT HERE?

    WHY GIVE THE THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS BROUGHT IN FREE HEALTH CARE, SPENDING THOUSANDS FOR HOSPITAL CARE?

    WHY ARE THE ILLEGALS BEING TREATED BETTER THAN OUR VETERANS.

    WHY STOP THE TANK AND PLANE SHIPPMENT TO EGYPT, WHEN THEIR ARMY KICKED THE RADICALS OUT?

    WHY DID OUR GOVERNMENT SEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HELP THE RADICALS IN IRAN, A COUNTRY OUT TO DESTROY US?

    WHY ARE WE SENDING BILLIONS TO ARAB COUNTRIES, AND LETING OUR COUNTRY GO TO POT?

    WHY DONT THEY ENFORCE THE LAW BARRING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY? PRAY THAT TRUMP WILL DO THIS.

    WHY IS THE MUSLIM MAJOR IN TEXAS LIVING THAT KILLED 14 SOLDIERS AND WOUNDED A LOT MORE?

    WHY ARE THEY RELEASING ALL MUSLIMS IN CUBA TO GO BACK INTO ACTION TO KILL OUR SOLDIERS?

    WHY DONT WE HANG ALL MUSLIMS CAUGHT AND BURY THEM WITH PIG PARTS, LIKE GENERAL PERSHING DID IN THE PHILLIPENS? HE STOPPED A MUSLIM UPRISING BY DOING JUST THAT.

    WHY WAS OBAMA ALLOWED TO SWEAR IN CARLOYN WALKER AS JUDGE IN BROOKLIN USING THE QURAN?

    WHY ALLOW ILLEGALS TO FLOOD OUR COUNTRY WHEN THEY COST MORE PER YEAR THAN THE IRAQ WAR.

    WHY SEND BILLIONS TO MUSLIM COUNTRIES TRYING TO KILL US.

    WHY DONT THE BIASED MEDIA REPORT ALL THIS.

    YOU SAY THAT A MUSLIM TRY AT A TAKEOVER IS IMPOSSIBLE, I CAN TAKE 100 WELL ARMED PEOPLE AND TAKE ANY BASE IN 1 HOUR, OUR TROOPS ARE NOT ARMED.

    BETTER COAT ALL YOU AMMO WITH PIGS BLOOD OR GREASE, LET THE WORLD KNOW YOU ARE DOING SO.

    TRUMP IS NOW THE PRESIDENT, SO, GET ON BOARD AND HELP HIM STRAIGHTEN THIS MESS OUT. PRAY FOR HIS PROTECTION EACH DAY.

    I HAVE A LOT MORE FACTS IF ANYONE WANTS THEM. SHARE THIS.

    • Rodney Steward

      Brother we have muslim training camps in every state in this country, places like the big cities, the mosque are their armories! We’ve got one he$$ of a war coming much sooner than people think too, and these poor pathetic rioters will be some of their first heads!

    • rl27

      You are correct. Now we each need to tell two friends, and they need to tell two friends! You made no mention of all the blue helmets, what is that all about? As an aside, ever notice the helmets seem easier to “zero” on at a distance? Siting- a 308 in at 1,000 yards or greater is a real eye opener. Out in the open, those puppies are easy to see and hit.

  • CBUJAN

    California is broke now, how do they think they are going to serve without federal money? Oh even if they raise taxes and they raise taxes often they still would not serve. If California secede from the U.S. they would loose half their population.

  • carpkiller

    When the southern border wall is done ,move the equipment to SanDiago and continue wall up california border a ll the way to the ocean.

  • Webb

    Another example of Liberal / Progressive Thinking…
    California will at some point become such Socialist State that they no longer can exist…
    Knowing there are some patriotic citizens in California…What will you do?
    ★★★

    • Thomas Burlew

      If the Patriotic Citizens in California, I hope they will up and leave and return to the US…

  • teaman

    If they do, they will still be the Arctic of perversion. Then, they can truly name there country Fornicator Land!!

  • Ghost Forever

    Make it a Liberal state only and ship all liberals there…Then, build a wall.

    • gvette

      In the back of my mind, I still remember the Fukushima disaster. That’s still a threat to the left coast. That my fry the fuckers yet! Then up the coast a few states away, is Hanford, Washington. There’s a disaster there, that’s been going on for 70 years.

    • Daniel C.

      Electrified fence with guard towers to keep them in.

  • itsfun

    If they do leave, we can build a wall around them too.

  • Sophie Plate

    Good riddance but I suppose there are many people there who are against what the fruitcake CA government is doing. Their government officials are the problem and I know there must be more voter fraud there than in many of the other states. Maybe the PEOPLE of CA should stand up for what THEY want instead of letting fruitcakes strip them of all their rights. And the fact that they have hired Eric Holder also makes a strong statement.

  • randy jackson

    If this ridiculous proposal is successful, I only hope there is an amendment that all ex-Cali’s that have relocated to other states must return. The Californicators are trying to install their Socialist concepts in other states. Particularly effected are Oregon, Washington, Arizona and Nevada. We wish the would pack their bags and return to the Socialist State.

    • gvette

      LOL…you’re correct. Funny thing about liberals. They destroy one area, then move to another to screw it up!

      • Rodney Steward

        Just like muslims!

        • gvette

          LOL…yes, just like them. My normal comment on them is, the only good one, is a dead one!

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      • Art The Fart

        Exactly right!

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