Seattle Mayor Seeking $250K to Protect Illegal Immigrants from Deportation

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January 8, 2017

Illegal ImmigrantsSeattle’s mayor is setting aside taxpayer money in order to protect illegal immigrants from possible deportation under President-elect Donald Trump.

Mayor Ed Murray said up to $250,000 will be spent on a plan to help immigrant families.

While the Seattle Foundation hopes to raise some of the funds, according to the Seattle Times, the city plans to hold forums throughout the city to provide information to families who fear deportation.

  • Bob

    If they wish to hold $250,000 of taxpayer money for this type of program, fin as long as it is CITY tax money. The Feds should reduce any monies given to the state by the same amount, and the state should reduce any monies given to the city by that amount. How would lobbies feel if states or cities set aside money to help defend people charged with gun crimes? If throwing those folks to the mercy of the Public Defenders office is okay, then throwing these people who believe it is quite okay to break other laws into the same system. Just like the iconic Democratic, alt-left, ultra liberal family, the Kennedy’s, got their fortune by breaking federal laws (Old Joe the rum-runner) libbies believe they can follow or ignore the laws at their leisure, and can skirt or simply not enforce them when they get elected.

  • Howie Subnick

    Matter of fact I have been in a fish packing plant, Star Kist. So if these immigrants are sent back there would be no one to take their place?! Give me a break, I’m sure there are thousands of legals waiting to take their places.

  • Charlie

    An immigrant is a person who comes here lawfully to reside permanently. Those who Seattle seeks to protect are illegal aliens. No, that is not racist but is the proper legal term. Check ‘Black’s Law Dictionary’ and the U.S. Code’ You could reasonably call them undocumented aliens. (alien – a person not a citizen or national …) They are not immigrants and calling them immigrants is like putting lipstick on a pig. It will still be a pig and just look ridiculous.

    • AKLady2015

      Visit a fish pacing plant.
      America’s Northwest would dry up without that industry.

      • Daniel C.

        The very first thing you should do is get a dictionary….The word you were looking for is “packing”. The second thing should be to finish your education, so would not have to work in a fish packing plant.

        • AKLady2015

          Thank you for spotting the typo.

          My education:

          M.D. Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences

          MBA, Cardinal Stritch College, Wisconsin.

          CEU – U.S.D.A. Graduate School.

          CEU – University of South Carolina, School of Medicine

          CEU – University o Wisconsin

          • Daniel C.

            Not that I care, since I only have a MBS. Since you’re an MD, and from the looks of your education and the places, and who you’ve worked for, you have never had to worry about a paycheck. An education is great, but what have you done with it. Research is needed and worthwhile. Maybe I’m wrong, but just maybe you’ve spent a little too much time in school, and not enough in the everyday world where most of America is.

          • Climax

            There is a big difference between the academic and real world. I too have a college degree, am a veteran, hold the highest aviation grades and many awards, like over 50 years flying nearly 100 different kinds of aircraft, but I have also been a tower rigger, lobster fisherman, machinest, owned and operated a retail business, raised three daughters who ALL got their Masters Degree, in Science, Occupational Therapy, and an MBA. My wife became an EDD and a retired professor from a major college where she taught Masters and Doctoral students. So don’t try to play your “I am smarter than you all are, it only makes you look more the bleeding heart liberal democrat WHICH SIDE LOST THE ELECTION! What have you done for your country?

          • AKLady2015

            Uncle Sam paid for my medical school.
            For that. he got six years of my life, including two tours of duty at combat hospitals in Vietnam.
            I’ve spent a lot of time where most of America never wants to go.

          • Daniel C.

            First let me say. Thank you for your service. Uncle Sam paid for my education too, for which, I did 3 tours in Vietnam. I guess this why I don’t understand how you can support this mayor, but as I said you have your opinion, and I have mine, so as I said we can agree to disagree.

          • AKLady2015

            I also did a tour in Berlin. Did you?

            One of my mother’s colleagues escaped from East to West. They were a group of fifteen, adults and children. The friends infant son would not stop crying. She smothered the baby to prevent the group from being shot.

            The people crossing our borders are refugees.
            The majority are fleeing drug lords.
            It is America’s demand for those illegal drugs which is the major force creating the problem.

            What would you risk for freedom and safety?

          • Climax

            In other words you have been a leach on society by being a professional student. Looks like about 10 to 15 years of academic studies and for what, so you can be on a blog and act soooooo smart? Have you ever worked a real job in your entire life?

          • AKLady2015

            Well, lets see, Uncle Sam paid for my medical school.

            For that. he got six years of my life, including two tours of duty at combat hospitals in Vietnam.

            Oh, he also got the lives of my first two husbands in that 13 year long war. They are buried at Arlington. Husband #3 died this past year, also of a Vietnam War related injury.

            Oh, and your math is way off.

          • Climax

            Unless you are in your 70’s I highly doubt what you say. I am a Viet Nam era vet and joined Dec 9, 1966. RA16897089 As for being a 3 time widow, you seem kind of hard on men who speak them minds. Why is my estimate of math so far off if indeed you have what you claim. 4/2/2/2/4 plus other schools.

          • AKLady2015

            Obviously, you are not aware of the fact that both the State of New York and the State of Connecticut provide programs which make it possible for someone to earn a college degree without actually attending college. I did not attend four years of college for my undergraduate degree. Medical school is two years. An MBA is less than a year of study on top of an M.D. Continuing education is simply those credits required to maintain one’s professional license.

          • Climax

            Medical school in only two years? What kind of Doctor are you, what do you do? I have to take checks every 6 months in my profession to stay qualified to move hundreds of people around safely in all kinds of weather and equipment problems. But I don’t try to brag about it.

          • AKLady2015

            The majority of graduate degrees only require an additional two years of college. Internship and Residency can take much longer. However, neither is re

      • Climax

        Maybe we would just all eat less fish and let the seas recover from being decimated by commercial fishing.

  • Rodney Steward

    250,000 G’s will go pretty fast come court time, with a little defunding!!

  • Howie Subnick

    LET THAT S.O.B. MAYOR USE HIS PERSONAL MONEY AND STOP BREAKING THE LAW WITH GOOD CITIZENS MONEY. DEPORT THE IMMIGRANTS AND DO NOT FORGET TO DEPORT THE MAYOR WHO HAS HIS HEAD UP HIS ASS! GOD SAVE THE SMART, GOOD CITIZENS AND REMOVE THE PRICK FROM OFFICE.

    • AKLady2015

      I say you are a fool who does not know jack about Seattle, or the rest of America’s northwest. That $250,000 us pocket change compared to what could be lost if those workers are deported.
      You have obviously never been inside a fish packing plant.

      • Daniel C.

        I’m happy to see you found your dictionary. You spelled “obviously, and packing” correctly.

    • Daniel C.

      Howie, the smart, and good citizens, and many small businesses are moving out of Seattle, due to the $15 minimum wage.

  • Ted Crawford

    If the people of Seattle allow this, it’s to their own demise. Re-call is the appropriate response to this illegal action by the Mayor! Not only do they stand to lose the $250,000, they stand to lose millions in Federal Money under the Trump administration!

    • kbfallon

      If allowed…it would set precedent and others would use it as a modal and an excuse.

    • AKLady2015

      Yes, Trump will probably drive the entire seafood industry out of the U.S. Not too ,any Americans have the stomach for working in those plants.

      • Climax

        What about legal aliens?

        • AKLady2015

          If there were a sufficient number, would employers risk hiring illegals?

          • Climax

            As long as illegals will work for less, without benefits, or insurance employers will hire illegals over legal aliens and you know that as well as anybody. It doesn’t take a degree to figure that out. Watch what happens when the INS shows up at a known employers of illegals, they scatter like the wind.

          • AKLady2015

            You have much to learn about the seafood and fish processing industry. They work for minimum wage or less and there are no benefits.

          • Climax

            So you are saying that because employers can hire illegals it is OK to pay them substandard wages with no benefits. If they were legal then they would have to pay the posted minimum wages. If the employers do not then they are subject to federal enforcement action. (I use to be a fed for 17 years in enforcement by the way). Aliens have no rights and will work under the table, no protections, benefits, or voice.

          • AKLady2015

            Law enforcement?
            *Is that where you learned to put words in other people’s mouths?
            You are so naïve …

          • Climax

            Try again.

      • Ted Crawford

        You got me there Comrade! I haven’t the slightest idea what the he_ _ you are talking about. However, knowing you, as I do, it’s intended to demean anything of value to American Democracy!
        Not that I’m a great fan of Democracy Per Se, but it is marginally better than the Socialism you desire for America!

  • CBUJAN

    This asshole Mayor should be recalled and sent out to pasture.

    • AKLady2015

      No, he should be given a medal.
      He saved the highest income producing industry that Washington State has.

      • gvette

        LOL..I see you’re still standing up for the crooks. That’s what illegals are. opps, I forgot again. You’re a Muslim dick sucking liberal!

        • AKLady2015

          Law is the law. If you do not like it, move.

      • Daniel C.

        Past good deeds do not absolve you of criminal behavior.

        • AKLady2015

          Only federal law enforcement has the authority to enforce federal law. States do not have jurisdiction over federal crime.

          • Daniel C.

            For the record, if federal officials requests that a hold be placed on an illegal, and they instead set them free, they are in violation of a federal warrant, thereby becoming an accessory. Like you said below the law is the law, and no one is exempt.

      • Climax

        Try Boeing as the highest paying jobs in Washington, not fish packers.

        • AKLady2015

          You wondered way off topic.
          Congress spends the money.
          You elect Congress.

          • Climax

            Your telling me that fish packers are making more money than workers at Boeing that build aircraft? Come of who you trying to kid, I have been there on he assembly floors.

          • AKLady2015

            Food manufacturing is Washington State’s #2 industry. Without a doubt, more people are employed in the fishing/food industry than at Boeing. The largest employer is the U.S. Government.

          • Climax

            Might be, but what are they making? Substandard wages in almost all cases because the employers can get away with it.

          • Ted Crawford

            “the largest employer is the U.S. Government” EXACTLY the problem!!!!

          • AKLady2015

            That was Saint Reagan’s gift to America.
            That huge government was jobs program.
            The Congress you elected went along with it.
            It increased the National Debt by 288%

  • Jean Langford M.

    250 “K” WON’T SAVE NOTHING…BIG INVITATION TO BE DEPORTED FIRST…BYEEEEEE…..

  • Climax

    Now there is a Mayor who is breaking the federal law, on immigration, on public money use, and public trust. He should be federally arrested and tried in Federal Court for aiding and abetting illegal immigration, miss use of public facilities and money, and all federal money going to the City of Seattle stopped, Federal tax money from Washington or any other states should not support any operation violating Federal Law.

    • Momma Beth

      Like that would ever happen especially in today’s p.c. world. Instead he’ll probably win some humanitarian award.
      /sigh

      • Climax

        You mean like the Award that Obama just gave himself?

        • AKLady2015

          Why do you lie?

          • Climax

            You must be uninformed, like most supporters of the socialist democrats. I am speaking of the 3rd highest Civilian Award that is issued by the current POTUS to an individual who was deemed to have performed a civil act of humanity. IN this case our self centered leader issue him self the award and had it presented by a member of the pentagon, ya that award issued only a week ago. Walk up and start smelling the roses my dear, you have been dooped.

          • AKLady2015

            Totally false.
            Maybe you should do some research before posting.

          • Climax

            Blowme!

          • Ted Crawford

            Ron White addressed her problem. There are simply some things that cannot be fixed!

        • AKLady2015

          Obama was awarded the Department of Defense Medal for Distinguished Public Service

          Recipients of the medal are nominated by the Department of Defense and approved by the Secretary of Defense.
          Why do you lie?

          • Climax

            Who runs
            Department of Defense if is not the POTUS himself. Convenient, almost like getting a Nobel Prize for doing what?

          • AKLady2015

            How long do you think something like that would stay secret? Are you really that foolish?

          • Climax

            Avoided the answer. What did he do to really earn the Nobel, what did he do to earn the Department of Defense Medal for Distinguished Public Service? Why was it kept so low key for such a prestigious award and not even carried front page of the Media? Because it was totally bogus and non appropriate.

          • AKLady2015

            The Nobel Peace Prize 2009 was awarded to Barack H. Obama “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples”. Nobelprize.org

          • Climax

            Pray tell, can you please give me a few examples of his efforts that warrant such an award?

          • AKLady2015

            Two of the specific areas noted by the Nobel Committee were his support for nuclear disarmament and the “new climate” in relations between the Muslim world and the West.

          • Climax

            Maybe I qualify for a Nobel when I say I support a puppy or kitten for each family to love and be loved by. New Climate? How long has the world been around? How long have we been keeping any “accurate” weather records? The world has cycles and these cycles are governed by the Sun Spots, not human intervention. Think back at all the nukes that have gone off, a major player if anything that would affect weather, explain why there are tropic evidence in the artic, why there are droughts, why some species appear and disappear from the earth. The largest pollution makers on earth are China, then the USA, Brazil, and other areas. Did you note that when all aircraft were grounded after 9/11 how blue and clear the skies got? Look up and listen to John Coleman Global Warming on Google. It is a 4 part presentation to prove this is all a massive hoax to gain wealth. Follow the money trails. Coleman has to Doctor Degrees in Climatology and was one of the founders of the weather channel. I believe and trust our government and elect leaders as far as I can throw them today.

          • Ted Crawford

            Well he did create the environment that spawned ISIS, and emboldened Boko Haram, Hamas, Al Qaeda, Et. Al. and set the Middle East and North Africa on fire!
            He also allowed four Americans, serving his egregious administration to die, without even attempting to send them any help. In fact he demoted two Flag Rank Officers that actually made that attempt!
            He also guaranteed, and financed Imatoilet Khamenei and Iran a Nuclear Weapons Program!
            There is very little more any American President could have done to further the Islamic Jihad!

          • AKLady2015

            Why do you lie?

          • Ted Crawford

            The ONLY possible response to your idiotic spew is “Here’s Your Sign”!!!!

          • Daniel C.

            Who works for the president. Take the blinders off.

          • AKLady2015

            The only blinders are those on your face.

        • Ted Crawford

          It’s appropriate, or at least in keeping with his administration. After all his Secretary of State is himself a self-decorated war hero!

          • Climax

            Don’t forget the previous SOS actually landed under sniper fire and had to duck the bullets as they came in too.

      • AKLady2015

        Maybw you would like their job in the fish packing plant.

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    • maxx

      Amen to that. Murray is the usual stinking liberal piece of garbage like Moonbeam down in California. Seattle, once a beautiful and terrific city to visit is now a liberal hell hole. I used to go there often but not since the liberals from California took over.

      • Climax

        California influence is like the black plague, something that should be walled off and disposed of.

      • AKLady2015

        Your post says you have never seen the inside of a fish packing plant. Yu would not last 15 minutes.

    • AKLady2015

      What federal law might that be?
      He did not assist the individual to enter the country.
      State law applies, not federal.
      In fact it is unlawful for a state to enforce federal law.

      • Climax

        Lets see, lets put this in a situation you might understand. You have a person who is a criminal and they you support him by providing the safe haven, provide him the tools to continue his illegal actions, protect him from the very laws he broke, refuse to uphold the Federal Laws that exist on the books, and this same person now needs, no demands the rights and privileges you have but to do so affects many others. Lets go back to square one, as soon as the person crossed our border illegally they were a criminal. Then then move into your area and someone supports this by providing them a job and a home to live in. They are as good as aiding a criminal. Then the illegal which is a criminal, seeks more aid in the form of welfare, hand outs, reduced price housing or becomes a violent criminal and attacks you on the street and takes your wallet, rings, watch, and if your lucky does not shoot you or do you physical damage. Who is to blame, the criminal who illegally came into the USA with no authorization. Why did they come her, to make a living or escape crime in their own country? There are legal ways to enter the USA which allows this same person to operate legally. Supporters of criminal action are no better than the criminals. Why do we have laws on the books if we do not uphold them. Perhaps you feel the need to support criminals. Well if that is so, I hope one attacks you, rapes you, steals all your belongings, and them physically attacks you and leaves you almost dead along a road some night. Then how will you feel about supporting such garbage? As you say, Deal with it!

        • AKLady2015

          Your post is about 99.9% false.

          • Daniel C.

            REALLY?????????? Which part of what he said is false. The act of crossing the boarder without permission is a felony, and a violation, of federal immigration law, which is in the purview of the federal government, not the states. If he/she commits a crime, that subjects him/her to the criminal code of the state in which the crime is committed.
            Now having said that, here is the law……If you knowingly help someone evade prosecution, that is known as aiding a known felon(and crossing the border illegally is a felony). If you get others to participate, that’s considered conspiracy. I just think this mayor, and the others who have said they will help the illegals, have very good lawyers, they’re going to need them.

          • AKLady2015

            The state’s law says how many days an individual may be held without charges being filed. States cannot enforce federal law.

            You are still confusing state and federal law.

          • Daniel C.

            For the very last time, and please don’t feel obligated to respond, because you have your opinion(no matter how wrong it is). Let me see if I can state this so even you can understand. First I was not confusing state, and federal law. What I said is if they commit a crime, that is a state matter, but if immigration places a hold on them, they are to be turned over to them. Failure to do so is a violation of a federal warrant, which carries jail time, and fines. If they involve other persons(policemen, police chiefs, or other public officials, that’s conspiracy).
            Now as I said, please don’t feel the need to respond, because you have your opinion, and then there is the law. We will agree to disagree.

          • AKLady2015

            You can believe what you want to believe, but States cannot enforce Federal law,

            Immigration detainers are “requests”. They are not commands. They cannot violate state law. https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/immigration-detainers-comprehensive-look

          • Ted Crawford

            Well Comrade, the States “requests” for Federal Monies can be treated in exactly the same manner!

          • AKLady2015

            Save your insults for someone you can impress with your ignorance and bigotry.

            The federal requests cannot violate state law. They cannot violate the individual’s Constitutional Right to due process. If you do not like America’s laws, maybe you should move somewhere else.

          • Ted Crawford

            Your self righteous assumption that you are the Great ‘I Am’ and have any right to tell anybody, never mind a disabled Veteran, that it’s they who should leave the country they fought for, shows the extreme narcissism common in all Socialist morons!
            For any American, Article I, Section VIII, Clause IV, should suffice to explain the situation. However, in the manner of you Socialists, A states begging for funds does not constitute a mandate on the Federal Government! You clowns seem to perfectly understand this with respect to forcing your disgusting Leftist garbage on our state school systems, so Comrade Back at ya!

          • AKLady2015

            Do you twist words for fun, or is your reading comprehension that low?
            I suggest you find a good legal information site and read up on the 5th Amendment.

          • Ted Crawford

            I’d suggest that you grasp your right ear with your left hand and your left ear with your right and PULL sharply, however it’s a virtual certainty that reality, should you ever actually address it would explode your twisted little mind!

          • AKLady2015

            Save your childish insults for someone you can impress.

          • Ted Crawford

            No insult included, it was a simple statement of verifiable fact!

        • AKLady2015

          Wrong, wrong, wrong .

          Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (he burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies), is the force of law in the United States.

          In America, everyone is innocent until proven guilty by a court of competent jurisdiction.

          Ilegals do not qualify for any of the benefits you listed. Even legal aliens must be in the US for 5 years before they qualify, unless they are officially designated. There are special programs for refugees.

          Also, only federal law enforcement has the authority to enforce federal law. States do not have jurisdiction over federal crime.

          • Climax

            Refugees, LEGAL and ILLEGAL aliens are three different categories. Come the legal way and I have no problem.

          • AKLady2015

            Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (he burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies), is the force of law in the United States.

            Simply put: Innocent until proven guilty is a competent court of law.

          • Climax

            So what you are saying is I could walk up to you, put a gun to your forehead and pull the trigger and I am not a murder until it is proven in a court of law. In my mind as Soon as I pull the trigger I am a murder and should be treated as one as there is no reason to doubt I would not be guilty. Same when you ILLEGALLY enter the USA on false pretenses or across illegal crossing points, bring drugs, crime, prostitution, and problems into MY country. Ever wonder what the penalty is if you cross illegally into any other country? Check it out and I think you will be enlightened a bit more. I have traveled all around the globe and I do it legally, with papers, and visa if necessary. Without it I know I will spend a lot of time in places I really don’t want to visit.

          • AKLady2015

            The right to trial by jury in a criminal case resides in both Article III, Section 2 of the federal Constitution (“The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury”) and the Sixth Amendment (“In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury”).

          • Climax

            Fine, that is true except that I would still be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Since when to non citizens get the same rights and privileges of a citizen?

          • Climax

            Nice “dead language” Latin, now get the English part correct. What was that Latin suppose to prove, that you are educated? Right, and educated idiot.

          • AKLady2015

            Legal terminology.

          • Climax

            MOMBOjUMBO.

          • Ted Crawford

            Simple; “If you cant dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your Bullsh_t”! Typical tactic of the Progressive!

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