New Albany, NY Law Will Require Gun Safes or Trigger Locks

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September 16, 2015

In the wake of thefts and accidental shootings, Albany’s Common Council recently voted 14-1 on a new law that will require gun owners to lock up their weapons when it takes effect on January 1.

According to The Times Union, “The law…requires gun owners to either secure their weapons in a safe or render them unable to be fired with a trigger lock whenever the gun is out of their ‘immediate possession or control.'” Buffalo, Rochester, Westchester County, and New York City have similar storage laws.

If a gun owner is found to have an unsecured weapon, the first offense will result in a fine of up to $250 or 15 days in jail, with the second offense (or the first that causes injury or death) resulting in a $1,000 fine and one year in jail.

  • If I had the misfortune to find myself living in the Peoples Republic of New York, I would be a criminal.

  • Jimbo

    I will think about locking up my guns when Governor Cuomo, Obama, and Congress lock up all the guns they have in their security details. If no one kills them in a few years, I may feel safe enough doing likewise.

  • kasper-ghost

    I can see it now. Burglar: I’m going to take all your posessions, then kill you. Person who owns the gun: No….wait! It will only take me about 10 minutes to unlock my safe, and get that trigger lock off. Really?? Of course we, about 99% of legal gun owners, do use common sense. But sorry New York, that is “not” what is written in the 2nd amendment. So go blow smoke up someone else’s arss. People have guns for their protection…..not “show & tell” time. The idiots walk amongst us, more so with each passing day. And with each passing day, more illegal aliens are invading.

    • bobnstuff

      You are so silly. If you are there with your gun you have it unlocked as the law says you can. It’s unattended guns that need locked up. That way when the burglars break into your house when you aren’t there they come up empty handed. I still remember finding a gun on my Great Aunts nightstand and thinking it was a toy. I was about 6 years old. I was very lucky that day.

      • Jimbo

        I don’t want to lock it up everytime I come and go. I want to hide it. That is a better solution. No kids in our house. Why should someone else dictate to me how I protect my family in my house? So you never got over a bad experience in your Great Aunt’s room. Get over it, and grow up!

        • bobnstuff

          I still remember the hiding I got. It’s just one of a number of time I have seen stupid things done with guns. I walked into one of my sons friend house to pick him up and on the table was a 45 with two thirteen year old boys and no adult around. That was the week end I taught him to shoot. Here’s the thing about this law, they won’t enforces it. The only time you will here about it is if someone gets shot and then they have something to charge the gun owner with for being stupid. The way I see it is that if someone gets hurt with one of my guns and I could have prevented it then it’s my fault.

          • Starr Manning’s Lesbian Lover

            The gun owner (if he’s an NRA member), the gun, the Gun industry nor anyone associated with it are EVER at fault when a kid gets his/her brains splattered all over the wall by some loser leaving it out where they can find it.

      • Gnowark

        I find it silly if someone thinks burglars will break into my house and be thwarted by a trigger lock as the law and bobnstuff seem to indicate. I know it will only prevent me (an owner who cares about his tools) from being able to protect myself. It is likely ‘their ‘immediate possession or control.’”BS will be used against the defender, instead of a criminal.

        • bobnstuff

          If you don’t take control of your guns and someone is hurt because of it you should be held accountable. If one life is saved is it not worth your having to unlock your guns when you get home and lock them when you leave. You lock your door so is one more lock all that hard to do?

          • No, it is not worth it. I carry mine around all day, having it locked would defeat the purpose. The life you save might be your own. That is the purpose. If they break in my house the odds are pretty good they are going to die anyway.

          • bobnstuff

            You do know that when you are with your gun you don’t have to lock it, right. It’s only unattended guns.

      • I trained my kids to shoot at 5 years old. The boy had a .22 rifle, a .410 shotgun, and the ammo in his room. When I was growing up, so did I. So did a lot of kids my age. So what. Do your job, teach your kids what they need to know. The state can kiss my arse, I don’t need a bunch of liberal scum telling me how to live, eat, drink, shoot, or raise my kids. Is that why we elected them??

        • bobnstuff

          Well when some one gets shoot don’t complain. It could very well be one of your children or one of their friends that make a mistake.

  • Dave Batz

    Middle of the night I hear someone breaking into my home. “Where’s my keys”? OOPS…too late.
    Call the cops. “Where’s my phone”? OOPS…too late.

  • bobnstuff

    Anyone who doesn’t make sure the gun is safely stored shouldn’t have a gun. It’s only personal protection when a person is there. The best way to protect your family is to store your gun safely.

    • studi30

      Exactly! That is why Washington DC was the murder capital of the US from 1977 to 2010. Guns in the home had to be stored so safely that in the hundreds of thousands of home invasions over the years the inhabitants couldn’t protect the gun owners in their homes in DC. Stop believing that 42% of families of gun owners are shot by a family member. If that were so, hundreds of thousands of shootings would be taking place in homes of gun owners. Since 100 million registered gun owners, one third the US population, own 450 million registered guns, the most guns owned by a civilian population in the world, only about 500 accidental shootings a year (according to the FBI). We have no children in our home, and no children come to our home. If a child came into our home, they would need to go through a locked solid core door to get to our guns. In 25 years of guns in the home, neither of us have ever pointed a gun at each other.

      • bobnstuff

        I guess you don’t watch the news and haven’t heard about domestic violence. I’m happy that you and your wife get along, you are lucky. I’m sorry that you have no children visiting you, it must be lonely. I guess you never leave your house so your guns are always safe from break ins. I value my family and my guns. I lock my guns up when I’m not using them.

        • Jimbo

          You don’t own any guns. You’re just another left wing nutcase gun banner.

          • bobnstuff

            I have been shooting for fifty years and can shoot a group that you can cover with a half dollar. I taught my son how to shoot and next summer it’s my grandsons turn. I only have two rifles but when I want fun I go over to my brother’s house. He builds guns. My Dad taught me gun safety and he know more about guns then anyone I have seen on this sight.

          • studi30

            And yet you are a gullible liberal who hasn’t fired a handgun. Long arms are just half the experience. My wife still has the Remington #4 rolling block .22 child’s rifle her father taught her to shoot with 57 years ago. She also still has her single barrel Remington 1937 child’s shotgun her father gave her 57 years ago. Doing Cowboy action we have a pair of .32 H&R Magnum revolvers as our hands are small. A .357 Marlin carbine and two double barrel shotguns round out our kit. Various Civil War rifles and handguns complete a collection of everyday handguns from .22 to .45.

          • bobnstuff

            Who said I have fired a hand gun, don’t own one don’t want one enough to spend the money for one. The one that’s the most fun is my brothers 68 cal. flintlock. I have never found any other all that fun. Small ones can’t hit anything at a distance and big ones cost to much to shoot. I did enjoy a friends Colt Peace Maker but not enough to buy one. I still have the gun my Dad bought me fifty years ago, that’s the one I teach my children to use. The Winchester 73 is the first riffle I ever fired, My grandfathers. My brother ended up with it and we don’t shoot it much once we figured out that it was one of the first 1000 made. The 93 cal. flintlock elephant gun is a hoot to shoot, 3 1/2 oz. of lead There are two guns I would like to own but haven’t yet. I want an M1 Grand. A friend has one and it’s like it was made for me. I have never shoot a group the first time out with any gun like I did with it. The other is a 12 gauge double barrel open hammer, not the cheap crap from China but the real deal. It’s nice to have friend who collect guns and like to show them off. I get to shoot a lot of different ones with out owning them. I have a deer riffle and my .22 which is all I need. I feel no need for a gun for protection, that’s what the swords are for.

        • studi30

          I guess you must be a rare, liberal gun owner. They are out there. Many a woman has stopped domestic violence against them with a gun. My wife and I will be married for 33 years on October 17th. She was born with a non malignant pituitary tumor. She couldn’t have children and we didn’t miss them. As you can see from my avatar, we are Civil War re-enactors. Most of our weekends are spent at encampments and events which educate the children and adults out there. I guess we never leave the house, with our 22′ travel trailer, which is like a home on wheels. As far as break ins, NJ has one of the highest number of illegals. Being a deep blue gun free zone we don’t have concealed carry. According too the FBI, Camden NJ is number two after Chicago with the most black on black gun murders with illegal handguns. Newark NJ is number five in the top ten.

          • bobnstuff

            Our last murder was about 7 years ago, Kid killed his girl friend. No gun involved. We did have a stabbing at our local high school that made the news. Our local cops here don’t have much to do, mostly shop lifters at Walmart and DUI’s I don’t even have to lock my doors. My brother’s a Revolutionary War re-enactor. It’s a great way to share history. I’m not all that liberal, I just hate it when people make up facts. No one cares about the history of things anymore. They try to make a big deal out of things that are business as usual. I can’t understand why making people lock up their guns when they aren’t home is a big deal. They lock their car.

          • The state doesn’t mandate that you lock your car. That’s the big deal. I don’t expect liberals to understand that, since they don’t think logically, they just Feeeeeeeeeeeeel.

        • If I couldn’t trust my wife with a gun I wouldn’t be there, she packs a smith J frame and has for over 40 years, I bought it for her. If thugs break in when we are not there, and steal my guns it’s OK, they are insured. If either of us are there, we have plenty of ammo, and a cell phone, to call the meat wagon afterwards.

          • bobnstuff

            Just how is making you secure unattended guns a bad thing? I guess you don’t value them very much.

          • I value my liberty more, I realize it’s a total waste of time trying to explain to a liberal that it’s NONE of the state’s or your damn business. The state does not have the statutory license or the physical capability to enforce your “YOU MUST CONFORM” law. Our freedom and safety depend not on what the state and liberal individuals can make us do, it depends on what the state and liberal fools cannot make us do.

          • bobnstuff

            There is no liberty with out responsibility. Freedom has it’s price. Laws are there to protect us from people who do not take responsibility for themselves or the effect their actions have on others. Laws give us rules so we can live with each other. If everyone took care of their own stuff and kept others safe this law would be unneeded.

    • Jimbo

      Do you have a job? Obviously you are collecting a government handout to sit around all day spouting your left wing propaganda.

      • bobnstuff

        Yes it’s a government hand out called social security. I don’t think gun safety has anything to do with right or left. If gun owners took responsibility for their guns we wouldn’t need this law but you don’t have to pass an IQ test to own a gun.

        • The problem is that people don’t have to pass an American history test to vote.

          • bobnstuff

            How about a lie detector test for those running for office. I hate the need for laws to protect use from not have to be told to buckle up, you should do it because it can save your like. If people took responsibility for themselves and looked out for others we wouldn’t need so many laws. However there are to many fools out there that don’t care or are to lazy to do the right thing.

          • There is no need for laws to protect us from ourselves. Part of being free is doing things the way you like, not endangering others, and taking responsibility for it. If I choose not to wear a seat belt, which I frequently do, not to wear a motorcycle helmet, which I sometimes do, not to lock my guns where they are inaccessible to me on demand, which I never do, to drink large sodas and eat nothing but hamburgers and fries, smoke 5 packs of cigarettes a day and consume 3 fifths of Jack a week and 4 cases of beer, it is MY business, NOT some elected liberal who was elected to protect the country and won’t/can’t, so wants to shackle the American people to justify a worse than useless existence. If you could pull your head out, listen for the popping sound, long enough for a reality check you might notice that criminals do not pay much attention to the law, Even your socialist government cannot pass effective legislation that will only restrict criminals from owning weapons. As to you and your ilk caring or not caring about how many guns I have, ONE MORE TIME, NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS.

          • bobnstuff

            I agree on personal freedom, 100% as long as it’s only you that gets hurt. It’s making sure that my actions don’t hurt others is the important thing. If someone gets hurt by one of my guns it’s because I chose to hurt them. If anyone but me or someone I allow gets to my guns they will not be of any use to them. The only way anyone will get hurt with my guns is if someone hits them on the head with them. I’m not one of those people who care about how many guns or what kind of guns you have. I just want them safe and in control. As long as you keep them out of the wrong hand you are welcome to them.

  • Mort Leith

    No better way to turn a gun into a Paper Weight than a Gun Safe or a Trigger Lock

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