Some Cities Want Their Noncitizen Immigrants to Vote

by Caroline Winter | Bloomberg Business Week  |  published on October 29, 2016

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San Francisco considers opening up local elections to newcomers.

“Look at illegal immigrants voting all over the country,” Donald Trump recently claimed in a Fox News interview, part of his ongoing effort to cast doubt on the integrity of the presidential election. There’s no evidence to support the Republican nominee’s claims of election fraud, but some cities are moving to expand voting rights to include noncitizens.

The latest is San Francisco, where the Nov. 8 ballot will include a measure allowing the parents or legal guardians of any student in the city’s public schools to vote in school board elections. The right would be extended to those with green cards, visas, or no documentation at all. “One out of three kids in the San Francisco unified school system has a parent who is an immigrant, who is disenfranchised and doesn’t have a voice,” says San Francisco Assemblyman David Chiu, the son of Taiwanese immigrants. “We’ve had legal immigrants who’ve had children go through the entire K-12 system without having a say.” Undocumented immigrants should also have the right, Chiu adds, to bypass the “broken immigration system in this country.”

Non-citizen voting isn’t as radical as it might sound. For more than half of U.S. history, from 1776 until the 1920s, noncitizens were widely permitted to participate in elections. “We had 40 states that used to allow it,” says Ron Hayduk, an associate professor of political science at San Francisco State University. “Immigrants could vote, not just in local elections,” he says. “They could even run for office—and did win office.” The hope, Hayduk says, was that immigrants would feel more invested in civic life if they were able to participate in American democracy.

  • Walter Flatt

    NO WAY, THROW THEM ALL OUT. TRUMP WILL.

    FROM A KOREAN WAR VET 51/53, A REG. DEM. ALL MY LIFE, BUT WILL VOTE FOR TRUMP.

    I BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN SET UP FOR A TRY AT A MUSLIM INVASION OF THIS COUNTRY BY, HILLIARY, OBAMA, KERRY, SORROS AND THE BIASED MEDIA. READ ALL THE WHYS BELOW.

    IF YOU HAVE THE GUT5, GOOGLE THE BELOW AND LISTEN TO ALL AND SEND IT TO ALL YOU KNOW.

    READ ALL THE BELOW YOU MIGHT WAKE UP.

    GOOGLE 3 THINGS, THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES 2015, 2ND, HILLARY CAREER CHRIMINAL, 3RD, CLINTONS CIRCLE OF POWER. LISTEN TO ALL.

    IF YOU ARE FOR THE ABOVE AND BELOW, YOU ARE TRYING TO DESTROY MY COUNTRY

    WHICH HAD YOU RATHER HAVE FOR A PRESIDENT A MAN, (AS 99% HAS), THAT TALKS A LITTLE DIRTY TO MEN, OR THE ABOVE IN THE GOOGLE.

    WHY GET MAD AT PUTIN, HE SAID THAT THERE WAS NO PLACE IN RUSSIA FOR ANYONE THAT WOULD NOT FOLLOW THEIR LAW AND SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE, GO TO A COUNTRY THAT DID.

    WHY HAS HILLIARY, OBAMA, KERRY AND THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO HELP THE RADICAL MUSLIMS.

    WHY IS A LAW THAT WAS PASSED IN 1952 BARRING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY, NOT ENFORCED? THIS LAW INCLUDES OBAMA SINCE HE SAID HE WAS A MUSLIM, AND ALL HE HAS AROUND HIM IN DC.

    WHY DID THIS ADMINSTRATION TRY AND BUY UP ALL AMMO?

    WHY TRADE 5 TERRIOST FROM CUBA FOR ONE TRAITOR?

    WHY TRY AND TAKE OUR GUNS? HITLER DID, & HISTORY TELLS US WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

    WHY ALLOW A MINIMUM OF 35 MUSLIM CAMPS HERE IN THE STATES?

    WHY ARE THERE 5 MUSLIM CAMPS IN N. VA. CLOSE TO DC? ARE THEY TO TAKE WASHINGTON?

    WHY BUILD A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, SOME MORE THAN ONE, WITH ARMED GUARDS? ARE THEY TO HOLD MUSLIMS?

    WHY ARE THEY BRINGING THOUSANDS OF YOUNG MUSLIMS HERE?

    WHY IS THE TAX PAYER HAVING TO FEED, CLOTH & HOUSE THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF MUSLIMS BEING BROUGHT HERE?

    WHY GIVE THE THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS BROUGHT IN FREE HEALTH CARE, SPENDING THOUSANDS FOR HOSPITAL CARE?

    WHY ARE THE ILLEGALS BEING TREATED BETTER THAN OUR VETERANS.

    WHY STOP THE TANK AND PLANE SHIPPMENT TO EGYPT, WHEN THEIR ARMY KICK THE RADICALS OUT?

    WHY DID OUR GOVERNMENT SEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HELP THE RADICALS IN IRAN, A COUNTRY OUT TO DESTROY US?

    WHY ARE WE SENDING BILLIONS TO ARAB COUNTRIES, AND LETING OUR COUNTRY GO TO POT?

    WHY DONT THEY ENFORCE THE LAW BARRING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY?

    WHY IS THE MUSLIM MAJOR IN TEXAS LIVING THAT KILLED 14 SOLDIERS AND WOUNDED A LOT MORE?

    WHY ARE THEY RELEASING ALL MUSLIMS IN CUBA TO GO BACK INTO ACTION TO KILL OUR SOLDIERS?

    WHY DONT WE HANG ALL MUSLIMS CAUGHT AND BURY THEM WITH PIG PARTS, LIKE GENERAL PERSHING DID IN THE PHILLIPENS?

    WHY WAS OBAMA ALLOWED TO SWEAR IN CARLOYN WALKER AS JUDGE IN BROOKLIN USING THE QURAN?

    I SAY, ARM ALL OUR TROUPS TO PREVENT A MUSLIM TAKEOVER. THINK IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. I CAN TAKE 100 AND TAKE ANY BASE IN 1 HOUR.

    BETTER COAT ALL YOU AMMO WITH PIGS BLOOD OR GREASE, LET THE WORLD YOU ARE DOING SO.

    JUST PRAY THAT DONALD TRUMP IS ELECTED AND IS ABLE TO TAKE OVER AS OUR PRESIDENT.

    GOOGLE THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLE 2015 AND YOU JUST MIGHT KNOW WHY.

    BELOW IS A GOOD REASON WHY I BELIEVE THAT A TAKEOVER TRY IS POSSIBLE. HOW CAN THE BIASED NEWS SAY OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM.

    THE LAST WHY, WHY DONT THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA REPORT ALL THIS???????????

    TRUMP IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS A CHANCE TO HELP. ITS EITHER HILLARY OR TRUMP. MY CHOICE IS TRUMP.

  • Nathan Marley

    Spam Framcisco is a disgrace to the Ca. I grew up in. Where did all these pudwackers come from? we had 1/3 the population in the 70’s. Twas the open border policy mostly . At least them queers up there aint procreatin too I suppose

  • Rodney Steward

    And of course these are all Dem. cities, with a lot of weak minded people that still think that Hellary doesn’t have anything at all to do with these E-Mails games, and this is because all they watch is MSNBC comedy show! Do you thing we can all be bused to mexico and vote in their elections, don’t think so, they’re much smarter than we are, and it’s called LAWS!!

  • Jose

    Hey you idiots, try doing this in the country where your roots are from. Bet you end up in jail or executed for treason. Try it, just once and come back and let the whole USA know how well you were received after trying to vote there.

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