Ben Carson calls on IRS to revoke Muslim group’s tax-free status

by Kellan Howell - The Washington Times  |  published on October 4, 2015

GOP 2016 presidential candidate Ben Carson is going after a U.S. Islamic advocacy group, arguing the organization should have it’s tax-free status revoked after the group’s director called on him to withdraw from the White House race following his controversial remarks about Muslims.

The retired neurosurgeon and second runner-up in the GOP field for the White House started a petition on Thursday asking supporters to encourage the Internal Revenue Service to take away the Council on Islamic-American Relations’ tax exempt status.

  • brtw

    Why do they have a tax free status? Tax them a very high rate.

  • skrunyan

    Islam is not a the religion it is a Theocracy. It is NOT protected by the Constitution. Islam is not about peace it IS THE WAR ON WOMEN. We need to call Congress and insist no aid money goes to countries that practice Sharia Law. Sharia is slavery of women & children. Demand that if Sharia is
    practiced = No Money from the US!

  • Islam is a Syphilis of the Soul and should be banned from American Borders and all sane Western Nations! Islam is incompatible with any other beliefs or people and should not be allowed to infect the USA! Allah is nothing more than satan himself!

  • Colleen Gill Rotter

    I don’t trust ANY of them !!

  • Dave In Arizona

    Carson is absolutely right! CIAR at the top of the list. Of course, the Obama will do everything it can to stop Carson.

    • bobnstuff

      Obama isn’t running for President any more and Carson mouth will be enough to stop him.

      • I Seigel

        You mean like Ben Carson criticizing the students at that Oregon college for getting shot? Here’s what Ben Carson said in an interview with ABC and CBS News:

        ““From the indications I got, they did not rush the shooter,” Carson said on CBS This Morning discussing the Oregon shooting. “The shooter can only shoot one person at a time, he cannot shoot a group of people.”

        Carson suggested that the victims should have rushed the shooter to prevent more lives from being lost, telling ABC News yesterday that he would have confronted the gunman and would have instructed people to attack the gunman.

        “I said what I would do. … I would ask everyone to attack the gunman,” Carson told ABC News. “That way we wouldn’t all end up dead.”
        That’s like Trump criticizing McCain for getting captured.

        • bobnstuff

          It’s easy to brave after the fact. Can you see a President of the United States saying that?

          • I Seigel

            It’s easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback, always second-guessing the people on the front lines making the decisions and facing the dangers. It’s easy to be a Backbencher, criticizing policy and government but not having any responsibility for coming up with your own solutions or being accountable for your criticisms. I’m sure as a doctor and a surgeon he’s made some life and death decisions and maybe second-guessed himself at times, so he knows. So what is he doing? Pandering to his supporters? If so, it reveals a lack of character, a lack of honor, and a misunderstanding of what “leadership” is all about. And he might be TOTALLY unaware of what people are capable of and not capable of when faced with mortal danger. Does he think these students were part of a video game or a TV show? Does he think everyone has Special Forces training?

  • gavinwca

    I agree with Carson 100 %, why should we pay for their Anti-American Fascism. No Muslim Jihadist in this Country including the Kenyan,

  • bobnstuff

    “I may not agree with what a person says but I will defend to the death his right to say it” Like it or not Islam is the second largest religion in the world and if you believe in freedom of religion you must except it. I liked Dr. Carson in the beginning but he is showing his lack of understanding how things work and the most basic parts of our constitution. When a religion is attacked it can respond, it’s called free speech.

    • saviano

      So you believe we should separate Muslim that live here and their responsibility to pay into Bo Care and revert back to the old race law called “Separate but equal under the law…”
      and like our President you believe this group has been exempted in the name of religion because they’re special….
      You believe that remarks about Muslim are racists because you’ve been told this is true from the propaganda spin coming out of the W.H.
      There are no controversial remarks about Muslims regardless of that the discussion is.
      What has been allowed to happen is to try to change the attitude here and to ignore the very real treat of Sharia Law that is now seen as WW III, on three continent called terrorism.
      Did you miss that memo coming form the W.H. or maybe you can be brave and go check the daily video feeds update coming out of the Middle East that our American news Organization have been told to shut up about.
      You can not ignore this treat to us any longer.

      • bobnstuff

        I know that Muslims are covered under our constitution and their religion is one of the most practiced in the world. I’m also convinced you know nothing about the faith and what they believe.

        • saviano

          Once again Bob your STUFF is convoluted and distracted for any clear adherence to the topic. Come out from under your tent.
          Our Constitution allows for the Muslim religion to worship.
          It does not allow :
          The Pimping of children and the sexual enslavement of minors for arranged marriages, and the “joy toys” of under aged boys keeps enslaved for pleasure.
          It does not allow for beheadings, espousal abuses that under Sharia allow death by stoning, public executions by beheading and the systemic killing and gassing of it’s own population ( in Syria as just ex) .
          Go educate yourself .

          • bobnstuff

            You are talking ISIS not American Muslims. It wasn’t all that long ago that we were doing arranged marriages of 12yr old girls,

          • saviano

            …ISIS has answered the call for a Muslim Caliphate under the banner of the Muslim religion .
            If you have a problem differentiating these facts go volunteer . YOU can tell us all about it when you buy your one way ticket.
            Your remarks are all BS for attention and you’re wasting my time and other here. Go there’re waiting for you .

          • bobnstuff

            Name one Muslim nation that supports ISIS.

    • Pam

      Islam is no longer a “religion”. Since the pedophile, serial rapist, murderer mohamed hijacked it, it has become a political/military movement that seeks world dominance. Convert or KILL ALL INFIDELS, DOES NOT PASS THE “FIRE IN A CROWDED THEATER” SMELL TEST for protected speech. Aside from that, it is a very poorly kept secret that CAIR is nothing more than a fund-raising, money laundering machine for the same muslims that are doing their damnedest to destroy Israel. Their propaganda wing is just a cover.

      • saviano

        very well said Pam.

      • bobnstuff

        Almost all the crimes committed in the US are done by people you would call Christians so I guess that they aren’t a religion anymore. A few things you don’t seem to know, ISIS is killing Muslims in larger numbers then any other religion. There are more Muslims fighting ISIS then Christians. All the information you believe about Muslims comes from non Muslims and in most cases isn’t true. Would you take a Muslims word on what Christians believe? Did you know that it’s OK in the Christian faith to stone to death sinners and that selling your daughter is alright, It’s in the Bible. Just so you know in Islam it is never alright to lie. You have been the mislead by propaganda from the right wing.

        • Pam

          Keep drinking Soetoro’s kool-aid.
          I, PERSONALLY, would not call ANY criminal a Christian. I was brought up Christian, but I call myself a “backslider” and realize that I will probably burn in hell because I cannot bring myself to turn the other cheek or forgive even a totally insane person for killing another. And I love the way people pick and choose from the Bible (on both sides)
          My husband is retired law enforcement, his department was given a presentation on terrorism by a man who taught the FBI. That is, he TAUGHT the FBI until Soetoro’s admin. told him he was NO LONGER ALLOWED TO USE THE TERM MUSLIM TERRORIST because it hurt the TERRORISTS’ FEELINGS. This man was brought up muslim and knows from first hand experience a few things YOU don’t seem to know about muslims:
          There are factions, apparently you never heard the terms Shia and Sunni, that are at odds as to which of them should get to rule the world.
          They ARE TAUGHT to lie, cheat, steal, and do WHATEVER IT TAKES to eliminate the infidels.
          You, my friend should stop listening to CAIR’s propaganda.

          • bobnstuff

            A few years back I made a point of studying Islam. Not the Christian view of Islam but the real thing. What I found was there are a number of good things in their faith. Lately I have read what people are now being told about that faith and am amazed how deferent the things being told by good Christian about the faith. Yes not all Muslims believe the same things, not all Christian believe the same. The KKK thinks of themselves as Christians. The reason that the FBI doesn’t want Muslims terrorists as a term is they don’t want their agents thinking that all terrorists are Muslims or that all Muslims are terrorists. A terrorist is a terrorist.

          • Pam

            You claim to have studied islam, “the real thing”. Did that include reading the koran? If, as you say, not all muslims are bad, why aren’t the 1.3 billion “good” muslims cleaning up their own back yard? You cannot tell me that all these hundreds of thousands of young, healthy “good” muslims “fleeing” to the west could not have stayed at home and defeated the terrorists by shear dint of numbers. Instead, they have invaded Europe and are leaving a path of rape and destruction wherever they go.
            Also, you don’t seem willing to give Christians the same benefit of the doubt that you are insisting we give muslims. “Good” Christians CAN AND DO condemn people like the KKK and the Westboro Baptists for bearing false witness and “hi-jacking”/corrupting their faith.
            As to your final point, it’s pure BS. Any thinking person can figure out that people other than muslims can commit terrorist acts. Oh, sorry, I forgot; lib/progs don’t think, they FEEL.

          • bobnstuff

            The people dying right now fighting ISIS are Muslims. Even Iran is helping in the fight. If you want to see what the Quran really says there are some good sites, they aren’t easy to find whit all the anti Islam sites.
            http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/26/malice-of-lying
            I don’t have to give Christians the benefit of the doubt, I’m not an outsiders. I know the love of God and what true faith can do in my life. I get angry when people use the name of Christ to promote hate. As for the not calling them Muslim Terrorists, that came from the psychologists not the politicians.

          • Diane Brenner

            The very basis of the Islam religion is to convert the entire world to Islam. Those who refuse to convert are infidels and their basic creed is that all infidels must die. Now, since that is the basic core of Islam, there is a very good reason for any non-Islamist to fear the Muslims as a whole. There may be some Muslims that believe in a peaceful coexistence, but how are we to know which ones they are?

        • Diane Brenner

          bob…When was the last time you heard of a crime committed in the U.S. in the name of Christianity. Muslim Islam started out in violence and has not stopped its violence, threatening not just Christians, or Jews, but ANY one who is not an Islamist.
          The actions you quote are NOT actions committed by Christians. The old Testament was Scripture for the Jews, and all those regulations or actions ended with the coming of Christ. Because the Old Testament contains the word of God, there is a great deal written in the Old Testament that Christians follow. If you want to criticize, and I accept the fact that there is room to criticize past actions of Christians, then don’t go back farther into history than before Christ came to earth.

      • PC Bob

        And they CERTAINLY don’t deserve to have a tax-free ‘free’ ride in America!

    • Gnowark

      If a diplomat abuses “diplomatic privelege” (s)he may be removed by his(her) home country for working against that country’s interests. If an islamist group interferes (or attempts) to interfere with a host-nation (U.S.) interests, who do you suggest gets contacted about their interference? I do agree with you that we “must except it,” WE ARE wrong to accept it.

      • bobnstuff

        You do know that most of the Muslims in the US are US citizens. Many are born here.

        • Daniel C.

          After reading all your post to Pam, and others I have come to one conclusion. You are a muslim. You said you know the love of God, but that is not coming through in your posts. You sound more like a spoksman for CAIR.
          Islam is opposed to our constitution. All Dr. Carson said was he could not and would not support someone who practices a religon that is opposed to it.
          I agree most muslims are citizens, but I have not heard one word coming from that community about what is going on in their home countries. I have heard a lot of BS from liberals about how we should embrace the muslims, and their religion. Sorry, wrong house.
          As to Dr. Carson’s call that they lose their tas exemts status, he is correct. Any tax free organization that involves it self with politics, by law should lose their status as a tax exempt.
          As noted by another poster, their freedom of speech in this case does not pass the smell test.

          • bobnstuff

            I guess the NRA should lose their tax free status, As far as being a spokesman for Islam, I hate to see something that doesn’t deserve it get beaten up. I have good friends that are Muslims and in respect for them learned as much as I could about their faith. In doing so I straighten my own. Dr. Carson needs to watch what he says and how he says it. I will say that the Muslims I know could care less what Dr. Carson says or Donald Trump for that matter, they are to busy working on building a good life for their families to waste time on this. My one friend is excited about the reopening of Iran, he wants to import real Persian Carpets from his cousin. His Dad can’t wait to get a new American car. They don’t want to talk about ISIS.

          • Daniel C.

            So you’re saying that because they support pro gun canidates they should lose their tax free status? They don’t run ads except in support of the 2nd. amendment. they publish a list of pro gun people, but I have never seen them actively run ads for a canidate. AS a life time member, I know this to be true.
            I don’t know where you live nor do I care, but Persian rugs are available in just about every major American city. Are you saying your friends dad doesn’t have a job, so that he can buy an American car? I am far from rich, but I just bought 2 new cars. Granted I did not pay cash, but I don’t see the connection in your comment. I guess he could lease, unless he has poor credit.
            If they are truely appalled about what is going on in the middle east, they should be talking about their outrage. If you’re a christian, as you claim, where is your outrage as what is being done to christians? I didn’t see any in your previous posts. All you did was stick up for muslims. Well everyone is entitled to their opinion, so I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

          • bobnstuff

            http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=D000000082&cycle=2012
            The NRA does give out money. I don’t care if they do or don’t but they do.
            The only place a real Persian rug is made is in Iran all others are Oriental. It’s like Champagne is only from the Champagne region of France.
            His Dad is in Iran, They make car in Iran but you wouldn’t want one.
            As far as my outrage you have no idea how angry I am but it’s with ISIS not Muslims. I’m also angry because it is my countries fault that this is happening. There where so many mistakes made in Iraq. We shouldn’t have gone there in the first place and then we sent to few troops to do the job. Our government tried to fight a war on the cheap You would have thought we had learn something from Vietnam about fighting a war in a country that doesn’t want us there. We created ISIS or at least made it possible. What makes it worse if it could be was the fact that Christians and Muslims got along in these countries. Right now it’s the Muslims that are doing the fighting and most of the dying but yes the Christians seem to hove a special place in the black heart of ISIS. If the devil has an army its ISIS.

          • Daniel C.

            I never said they did not give out money, but not to canidates. My bad about the rugs, but so what. So his father is in Iran, but what is he doing. If he works, he can afford an American car. You can get them for under 300 a month. As for ISIS, they claim to be the real muslims, and I know they are killing those muslims that are not muslim enough, but where are those voices. It seems to me that ISIS is greatly outnumbered by those muslims, and could probably wipe them out.
            As for Vietnam, I served 3 tours there, in 4 campaigns from 65 to 67. Our politians did not have the stomach for war(thank you democrats). Our problems started in Vietnam with the rule of engagement. They made it so we could not fight to win, and it has been that way since Korea. During WWII the only rules were to kill the enemy, and win the war,which we did.
            In Iraq, it’s not that we tried to fight it on the “cheap”, it was our politians again, and the current crop of generals. They have little or no spine. oBAME HAS GOTTEN RID OF THE GENERALS THAT COULD HAVE WON, AND REPLACES THEM WITH HIS “YES” men. Sorry for the caps, didn’t know the cap lock was on.
            Just look at the last week. Putin has all but replaced the USA as a world power. Look what happened at the UN. Just after Obama spoke, he pulled Kerry and our ambassador out for a meeting before netanyah spoke. They missed the whole speech.
            You are right about one thing, ISIS is the devil’s army.
            On another note, in my line of work, I come in contact with many muslims. I would hate to know what they probably say about Americans. I have to admit there are a few, that I get along with, but just a few.

          • bobnstuff

            The war in Iran was lost in the first and second year. After that it was just a money pit. Here is how you lose a war, send in a force that isn’t big enough and let the enemy learn to fight them, then slowly add more troops, each time giving the enemy time to adjust to the greater force. Add in rules that favor the enemy just to see how bad you can make it for your troops. Next add friends of the administration seeing just how much money they can make. That’s how you lose a war. War is a bad thing in the first place and we have made it worse. The good Generals were long gone by the time Obama got there.
            You haven’t been able to buy a new American car in Iran for thirty years.
            We don’t hear their voices because our media doesn’t care about them, They don’t fit into the story the media is telling. We care more about Donald Trumps hair then about dead children in the middle east.
            For six years I worked for an Iranian family, They are good people but there had their culture that I made it a point to learned in order to understand where they were coming from. I was the day to day manager of the business’s and was over a number of family members. Because I took the time to understand who they were they trusted me and I could trust them.
            I don’t trust Netanyah, If we end up in a war with Iran it will be his making. I really wish he had lost the election and in the back of my mind wonder if our Congress had not supported him if he would have. I understand that Israel is not loved by their neighbors but Netanyah keeps throwing fuel on the fire.
            Putin has two advantages that Obama doesn’t have. His Congress isn’t trying to destroy him and he doesn’t have to care who he kills. If Obama is weak on the world stage you can thank Congress, they have been under mining him when ever they can. In spite of it he is still respected and other countries are willing to work with him.

          • Daniel C.

            I think you meant the war in Iraq, but that’s a minor point. I seem to have misunderstood you. I thought the father was here in America. I had to go back to re-read your posts.
            I get that you support Obama, so now I see where you are coming from. That is your choice. When you say that our congress is trying to destroy him, why do you say that? Are you talking about his policies? His executive orders? Please list what you think. Just remember this, the GOP took over the House in 2010. and expanded their majority in 12′ and 14′, and took control of the Senate in 14′. You have to ask yourself why, and be honest about it.
            As for Netanyah pouring fuel on the fire, if your country was gettig rockets dropped on it, what would you do? If it were me, I would bomb them back to the stone age, even though they are not to far removed from it.
            As for this father buying an American car in Iran, don’t hold your breath. That’s not going to happen anytime in the near or distant future. Obama missed a golden oppertunity several years ago when there was an uprising in Iran. If he had supported the students that were calling for new leadership, we probably wouldn’t have to worry about Iran gettig the bomb.
            Don’t blame congress for his foreign policy failures or the 10 trillion he has added to the national debt.
            Now please answer this question. How can a man get the Nobel Peace prize just 4 months into his first term, without doing anything to earn it? How about Obamacare? If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, or if you like your policy, you can keep it….Period! How’s that working out for you?
            I know you’re a liberal, and he can do no wrong by you, and I’m conservitive, and he can do no right, so we will never agree, but really, you have to ask yourself if you’re better off now than you were 7 years ago? To be honest, I’m not. I’ve lost about 3 thousand in spending power, and I expect to lose even more this year.
            In any event this topic is starting to bore me, so I hope this will be the last post.
            Have a good night bobnstuff.

          • bobnstuff

            I support the office of the President. The republicans refuse to do their job and have said they would do what ever it took to make Obama fail. This isn’t how our country is supposed to work. When in this countries history have people been so disrespectful to the President. It started on day one, before he had done anything. The right is making a big deal out of EO’s as if he is doing something different then all other president before him. Every president uses them and if anything Obama uses them less then most. It was an EO that freed the slaves and an EO that put the Japanese into camp in WW II. Did you lose your doctor? I did the year before the ACA because the company I work for changed carriers. I have had to change doctors four times in the last ten years because of the companies I work for and the insurance war going on in Pittsburgh between Blue Cross and UPMC. The ACA has nothing to do with it.

            If Iran wanted a bomb they would have had it years ago, it only took us 4 years to build one with out computers and having nothing to go on. Even North Korea built one. What gives our country the right to change the government of other countries. We did it in Vietnam in 1956 and ended up in war. We did it in Iran and our guy was overthrown and you see what we got out of that. How did that Iraq thing work out? We need to get out of other countries business.

            Right now for ever Israeli that is killed 10 Palestinian die. I support the Israeli people but why is their government stealing land from their neighbor? Why are the destroying their neighbors homes and preventing then form getting basic supplies for living? Is this any way to peace? If you came and took my families farm that we had been farming for centuries and that we had a clear title to I think I might send rockets into your country to.

            As far as blaming Congress for the debt, who else can you blame, They control all spending. The president can’t spend anything with out their OK. In fact all money bills start in the House and the Republicans have had it since 2010. You can reduce the debt two ways, increase taxes or cut spending. The only place in the budget that has enough money to make real cuts is defiance and that isn’t happening. If you cut defiance by 10% your savings is more then if you got ride of all welfare and all foreign aid. Do you believe there is 10% waste in our military spending? Now you are going to say that we cut military spending but did we? http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/defense_chart_30.html

          • keepyourpower

            The NRA is not out there proposing to commit treason. They are not out there saying kill everyone.
            They are FOR the 2nd Amendment.

          • bobnstuff

            It’s just their members that are calling for an armed over through of the government. They are for making money for the gun manufactures and themselves. Their president makes more then the President of the United States, over a million dollars a year, not bad for running a non profit. Once the NRA was a good group and it still does a lot of good things but it has become the marketing arm of the failing gun industry. Lives don’t matter to the leaders of the NRA, just money.

          • keepyourpower

            I would not say the gun industry is failing. They are selling more guns than ever over the last 7 years.

          • bobnstuff

            Colt went bankrupt and Winchesters stock was selling for $34.34 is now down to $17.48. I would say the industry is in trouble.

          • keepyourpower

            Well, as I have said before, you cannot believe the lies that come from the media. You have to go to the source, to get the truth.

          • keepyourpower

            That is only 2. There are many more gun manufacturers.

          • bobnstuff

            Not many more, you would think that there would be but Freedom group has bought most. They are the big kid on the block and owned by our friend George Soros. The were going to do a IPO but backed out They are doing alright but there net income seems low when you look at their sales numbers. Vista Outdoors is the other one and they do both guns and sporting goods. They are trading about 10% below the peak. Oltn Corp is Winchester and they are not doing well and you know about Colt. General Dynamics is the only other manufacture of arms and they sell to the government. There were a much larger number of companies ten years ago but they mostly became part of Freedom group because they could be bought cheep. To prove the Freedom Group isn’t that smart a company the hired Bob Nardelli as CEO for a little while. One of the all time worst CEO’s ever. Home Depot gave him $17 million to go away after he killed the stock price. The stock had been trading for $48 per share when he got there and was down to $24 when he left. Not good. Freedom group got rid of him in 2012. Overall the gun sales are dropping in the US. The industry has a problem, Guns don’t wear out. We have guns in the family that are over a hundred years old. The only way the industry can survive is to sell more guns to people who already have them. They need thing like mass shooting to drive sales and even that isn’t working as well as it did two or three years ago. The gun industry give a lot of money to the NRA with the understanding that they will build sale for them. The NRA used to do it by promoting hunting and target shooting but both those had been going out of style so they switch to the Government is going to take your guns sales pitch. The worst thing that could happen is for someone like Ted Cruz gets elected, it could kill the industry.

          • keepyourpower

            Here is a report that FBI stated September was a month for guns sales…up exponentially! http://freebeacon.com/issues/september-sees-record-gun-sales/

        • keepyourpower

          Many are born here, is correct. It is part of their Jihad to take over the USA by sheer numbers!

          • bobnstuff

            Yes .5% of the population has lots of power.

          • keepyourpower

            They are allowed to bring in ALL of their wives. The first wife is the wife. The others are dependents. The wives have usually 7 children a piece. You do the math.

          • bobnstuff

            http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/4wives.asp
            My guess you have never tried to bring someone into the country.

          • keepyourpower

            Have you? These were the conditions set up by Obama’s administration. Look it up.

          • bobnstuff

            Two year and lots and lots of paperwork. My daughter married a guy and some how I ended up getting him into the country. He had two masters degrees and one PhD.

          • keepyourpower

            I don’t know why you would use the left leaning snopes.com, for any Truth. I did not say all were claiming to be wives. I said the government is allowing the other wives, to be claimed as dependents. I did not say they are all on welfare, under the husband. But I DID say they are all having babies by him, and that is how they are going to take over the USA.

          • keepyourpower

            A very few socialists and communists have taken over our country…a very small percentage…compared to those who want to follow the Constitution. Yet it is happening.

          • bobnstuff

            You believe that don’t you. So what have these Communists done, Have they taken your rights, have the taken over all the business in the country? I guess they now control all economic activity in the country. You do know communism and socialism are economic terms. It’s control of the means of production for the common good. Central planning decides what is going to be produced and how much. Everyone works for the state. I guess you don’t own your home anymore since the government now own everything. That is what communism means. Is that our country now? If you don’t believe me look up the words.

          • keepyourpower

            Have you read the Communist Manifesto, lately. They have met ever tick except taking away our guns.
            What economic activity? We are broke. The GDP..a laugh. Unemployment..sky high..when you add in, those who have given up looking for a job. Jobs are being taken away, and sent overseas, frequently. When the TPP goes into affect.. We will be totally sunk. And that is what Bush, Clinton, Obama, and the rest of the NWO’s want. Elite in control..the rest of us…slaves. No God. No sovereignty. TPP will take care of the Sovereignty part, and they can ignore our Constitution and our domestic laws…and what would keep them, and the UN, from taking our guns? We are in a world of hurt..and it will come as such a surprise, to the majority of the sheeple.

          • bobnstuff

            When was the last time you talked to someone who wanted a job but couldn’t find one? Our GDP is the highest it has ever been and keeps growing. you really need to stop with the fiction news. The country is broke except for the fact that all most all of the money we owe is to ourselves. Go take your meds.

          • keepyourpower

            I give up on you! You are so in the tank, with these useful idiots..you must be the Supreme Useful Idiot. No more wasting my time, with you. You believe all the lies, that this corrupt government tells you!

            I have not been able to find a job since 2008! White, disabled, female..now 64. So, I started my own business!

          • bobnstuff

            If you want a job, go to Home Depot, They don’t care about age, the only two thing that count is can you pass a drug test and are you a felon. They do most of their hiring in February and March. The only problem you might have is you need to be able to stand for eight hours. Starting a business is a good thing but be sure you do it right. I just happen to have worked helping people do start ups, The most important thing is write a business plan, write it down. It’s your road map. There are a number of book on writing them as well as on line help. The SBA have a OK site for writing the one. I have owned four business’s and made the mistake of not writing one the first time. The business did alright but I made mistake that I wouldn’t have had I written a plan. I’m retired and only help two or three people a year now and do it for free. You are lucky in a way, this is one of the best times to start a business in history and you are in the best country in the world to do it in. In 40 years of running business I never had a problem with the Government that wasn’t my fault and even then they work it out with me. I don’t care what you think of my views on politics or the world, trust me on this. Write a detailed business plan. It make all the difference in the world.

    • keepyourpower

      It is not a religion. It is a political ideology.

      • bobnstuff

        As is the Christian religion or should I say some parts of it. The Church ruled the world for a number of centuries and still is the power in many countries. I don’t think Christ would have approved. Don’t confuse the church with religion.

  • used_to_be_a_liberal

    There was, and has been absolutely nothing controversial about Carson’s remarks about Muslims or Islam. Since when is the truth controversial, oh, right when it slaps, political correctness, political cowardice in the face.
    I am no fan of Bill Mahar, however lately when he has a topic about Muslims and Islam on his program he was been more then critical of them. He has even begun to talk about the lack of free speech at colleges and universities, and the stupidity of their hypocrisy. There must be something in the air.
    Personally, I would very much like to see Islam, and the Koran put on trial, then proven to be what it is, a political agenda, hidden under the guise of a so-called religion, that does fit every definition of a cult. Then have it out-lawed.

  • VirgoVince

    ALL traces of islam, NEED to be EVICTED from OUR soil, BEFORE they do MORE damage to OUR country!!

    • I Seigel

      Who’s next after the Muslims? Sikhs? Hindus? Tamils? Jews? Blacks?

      • Pam

        None of those are screaming “death to the infidels”. None of those are plotting to destroy/take over our country.
        With the possible exception of “Black Lies Matter”.

        • I Seigel

          Yes, there are radical Muslims that hate America. Do all Muslims? There are radical Iranians who hate America. Do they all hate us? There are Aryan Brotherhood and Klansmen who are Christians and hate every minority. Do all Christians hate all minorities?

          When you describe an entire people by the words and actions of a few, you do terrible things. Like intern Japanese-American citizens or suspect large segments of the population of being Communists.

          • Pam

            See my third reply to “bobnstuff” below. You guys must be drinking the same kool-aid.

          • I Seigel

            Mohammed “hijacked” the religion? Say what now? Explain that to me, Pam.

          • Pam

            http://news.discovery.com/history/religion/fragments-of-worlds-oldest-koran-may-predate-muhammad-150901.htm

            This article only confirmed theories I’ve heard off and on my whole adult life. (I have not regularly attended any church since I was 14, strictly weddings and funerals)

          • I Seigel

            Interesting article. Thanks for the link. But the radiocarbon dating of those pages has about an 80 year leeway (568 A.D to 645 A.D.), which fits perfectly with the traditional belief that Mohammed “founded” the religion sometime after 610 A.D.

            There is one sentence in the article that speculates that Mohammed and his followers, according to “peripheral views”, “…used a text that was already in existence and shaped it to fit their own political and theological agenda, rather than Muhammad receiving a revelation from heaven”, but this isn’t a view that is widely accepted.

            Granted, it’s very hard for people to accept new information, scientific or historical, about their religion’s origins that goes against their long-held beliefs. The Mormons don’t want to accept any new findings about their founder and their church’s history. Christians don’t want to accept any changes to the story of Judas or to the Shroud of Turin or to believe any alternate stories of the Crusades other than the Christians were all the good guys. And it’s very hard for Italian-Americans to believe anything negative about Christopher Columbus.

          • Aryan Brotherhood and Klansmen are only fooling themselves by calling themselves Christians. Everyone else see the truth about those cockroaches. Just as Muslims are only fooling themselves when they call their satanic allah a god, he is nothing but a false entity, just like the majority of others, and the majority of others have all matured past their insane violent states, all except Islam, which has stayed the same the last 1400 years, a vomit bucket of insanity and perversions.

          • I Seigel

            Yeah, you’re right. It’s great to see that Christians have all evolved to leave violence behind. I can’t even remember the last time violence was perpetrated or encouraged by Christians in the name of Jesus.

            Except maybe that Pastor Terry Jones in Florida who likes to burn Korans and incite his followers to kill Muslims. And all those devout Christians convicted in abortion clinic bombings and abortion doctor murders. And don’t forget to look beyond our borders and see the Christians killing native peoples in Central America and the Middle East and the Philippines. And we don’t have to go TOO far back in history to remember good Christians like Adolph and Benito.

            Did I forget anyone? Maybe….

          • Your scrapping the bottom of the bucket to come up with something Christians have done of lately! Name one muslim pig that Rev Jones killed? Burning Korans is nothing, same as you leftist twats burn Bibles, it is only a book. Only the mentally deranged get upset over the burning of a book, which is what Islam is, horribly deranged and perverted. Hitler was not a Christian, nor Benito, only fooling themselves and you, which doesn’t seem to be very difficult!

          • I Seigel

            I’m only responding to the gross generalities you made about a group. You say that “the majority of other (religions) have all matured past their violent state, except Islam”. I’ve just given you several examples where your statement doesn’t apply. If you can’t handle it, perhaps you should rethink your statement and your close-minded attitude towards anyone or anything not in agreement with your personal beliefs.

          • There is only one way to Heaven and that is thru Jesus, not some allah/satan. If any Christian groups are committing violence, then they are just fooling themselves, unless they are defending themselves, then we have every right to stand up for our beliefs and if some sewer like Islam wants to kill us, then we have ever right to kill them first! It is obvious your a lapdog of Islam. Hope you wake up before it is too late.

          • I Seigel

            It’s obvious I’m a lapdog of Islam huh? Gee, how did I give myself away? You must be really smart or something.

          • No, but I have seen you Troll other conservative sites, talking your crap! One thing you certainly are, is a Leftist Troll! Now, go back to lapping up your daily vomit! I can only tolerate a Troll for so long and your time ran out long ago.

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