Colleges struggle over defending or curbing free speech

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September 2, 2017

111315_an_kinder_1280Both the University of Missouri and Evergreen State College have been rocked by left-wing demonstrations, some of which administrators in both schools allowed. Now both have had to deal with falling enrollment and a decline in funds – and there are fears the situation could spread to other schools.

The defining issue is whether parents and donors see administrators as capable of containing clashes and responding firmly when protests get out of control, experts say.

Jacqueline Pfeffer Merrill of the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, a nonprofit that advocates for a variety of higher education issues, told Fox News that how a college handles freedom of expression matters greatly to prospective students, their parents and donors.

“When they look to what college to pick, parents and students are thinking of the largest investment their family is likely to make beyond the purchase of a home,” Pfeffer Merrill said. “Across the political spectrum, one of the most essential assets is [the opportunity] to be exposed to a wide range of views.”

  • jea2comments

    Dr. BillLemoine – Do us all a favor and go back to HUFF PO!

  • bobnstuff

    Funny thing is Trumps job numbers aren’t as good even though he is taking all those so called job killing regulations off. Another little thing about abortion, it’s at the lowest rate since the seventies and dropped though out the Obama years. The rates were lower in places with Planed Parenthood the in places without their services. PP gets there money for giving services but the government doesn’t give them anything for abortions. It turns out birth control and education prevents abortions. It also turns out that PP wasn’t selling body parts, 16 state AG’s said so. Now as far as war goes Trump thinks sending in more troops is a good thing and is going to spend even more money. One interesting thing is a 18 to 24 year old is safer in the war zone then at home. He is less likely to die in battle then driving down the road. More soldiers die in training these days the in combat. This will change now since the rules of engagement are being changed. You say the stock market never went up, then where did all that money in my 401 K come from and how did I get all extra value in my stock account. My personal wealth over doubled under Obama. Yes thing were rough under Obama.

  • bobnstuff

    Obama was oh so bad, unemployment went down as jobs numbers went up, the stock marked over doubled, we stopped seeing body bags and 17 million people got health insurance. Thing are so much worse today then back in 2008.

  • dmttbt

    I thought the colleges and universities purpose was to educate these students, not defend or give up the right to free speech. If these spoiled a hole students want to give their opinion on matters have them do it when they are not at the place that is suppose to educate them. If they think that is not fair then have them report to class in Afghanistan. The tax payers of this country are the ones who pay a lot of their college expense and we have something to say about what they do when they should be studying.
    We had an election for president of the united states and since it didn’t turn out the way some think it should have now they want to RIOT, notice I did not say protest.
    When I see something saying that the fact that Hillary did not win is still incomprehensible I automatically think of the polls that had her without a chance of losing. They were wrong even with all the illegal votes that went for Hillary she still couldn’t steal the election.

    • jea2comments

      Most colleges are nothing but libtard indoctrination centers full of snowflakes.

  • jea2comments

    Going to college is nothing but a waste of time and money, as there aren’t that many good jobs out there, even if you have (or earn) a degree! Many are unemployed NOW, who have degrees and look at what college did for them. Not much! All you/they get is a butt-load of debt via those student loans and NO JOB! IF parents were smart they’d get their kids out of those Liberal indoctrination cesspools!

  • goldie

    Just figured out how to block users. Bye-bye bobnstuff & dr (?!) bill. I’ve heard enough of your crap.

  • roboteq

    A major question that needs to be asked of colleges is; Will my child be free to express themselves regardless of their political or social viewpoints without a fear of physical assault or punishment from the college administration?

    • bobnstuff

      The answer is yes, they will be. That is unless you send them to some of the conservative southern colleges that only except think that conforms to the Baptist Church.

      • jea2comments

        Wrong again!

        • Pete

          bob has a short circuit in a critical location.

        • bobnstuff

          When was the last time you were on a college campus? My sister lost a teaching job at a nice college because she wasn’t a Baptist. The bible belt is amazing. On the other hand the University she teaches at now cares more about football the politics. Most students today care little about politics.

          • jea2comments

            That’s too bad about your sister. Is she a liberal? If so, maybe she was too liberal for the school’s liking. In answer to your question about when the last time was, that I was on a college campus. It’s been many moons ago. I was “lucky” I never fell for drinking the libtard kool-aid! I try to stay away from LEFT-wing indoctrination centers as much as possible. As of late…I’ve seen how these college kids act with their acts of violence…burning buildings and other riotous acts. U.C. Berkeley should be ashamed of themselves! Saw the Berkeley buffoons on the News….rioting and acting like complete asses! Isn’t education supposed to make one civilized?Apparently that isn’t the case at Berkeley…and various other libtard colleges, including the ones mentioned in this article! You say most kids care little about politics…they don’t have to care about it…It’s spoon-fed to them by their libtard professors!

          • bobnstuff

            My sister is a social worker so she almost has to be a liberal in that job. That didn’t seem to bother the school as much as the fact that she was an Episcopalian.

            Berkeley has always been a different place. It’s not a normal university, there must be something in there water. Most college students could care less about politics. My oldest spent two years teaching at WVU and no one seemed to care about anything but partying and sports. Penn States is the same way. Now my daughter teaches at a State University and none of her students have time to go protest anything. They only care about who’s president because of funding. Right now I’m getting ready to go back to college, I’m looking at getting a degree in history this time. I found out I can go for free so why not. There are some advantage to getting old. The media makes things look bad but in the real world it’s pretty boring.

          • roboteq

            Your sister lost a teaching job at a nice college? If your sister did nothing to deserve losing her job, then it was not really a “nice” college, now was it? In fact, it would be illegal for your sister to be fired because of her theological beliefs. So just what kind of college does such an illegal thing? Surely you want to tell us the name of this “nice” college so we can steer clear of it. Or, maybe you are not exactly telling the truth.

          • bobnstuff

            In fact schools can simply not renew a contract and get rid of someone until the get tenure. She was an adjunct and had no tenure, The University she is at now is a much better school.

          • roboteq

            So why did you say it was because she wasn’t a Baptist?

          • bobnstuff

            Because until they discovered that fact they were quit happy with her.

          • roboteq

            You do realize that everything you have claimed so far is just hearsay opinion with no support for accuracy, I hope. Add to this that you are a self professed liberal and maybe, just maybe, what you belief isn’t really accurate. Unless we are talking White Supremacist or Islamic conservative, conservatives are not prone to such divisionary tactics. Baptists and Episcopalians are brothers and sisters in Christ. It would seem very odd for what you are claiming to be true.

          • bobnstuff
          • roboteq

            Congratulations. You sought out some of the most despicable rants from some of the most fanatical people and you found them. Good job. You have certainly proven that when we seek, we shall find; that which we seek. Next time, try seeking out positive Christian attitudes.

            http://episcopaldigitalnetwork.com/ens/2013/05/23/baptists-and-episcopalians-celebrate-season-of-combined-worship/

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episcopal_Baptists

            I just don’t believe you are being completely honest about why your sister was fired or your attitude toward Christianity in general. I myself deplore organized religions because they all reek of the corruption of man. However, once we break down the absolutes of Christianity, we all believe that Jesus Christ was God incarnate. That is really what matters.

          • bobnstuff

            You do know that Ohio isn’t a southern state don’t you?

          • roboteq

            And still, you seek only what you want to believe.
            Number 9 addresses this conversation;

            https://www.onfaith.co/discussion/10-things-i-wish-everyone-knew-about-southern-Baptists

            An Episcopalian priest was visiting the church of his Baptist minister friend’s. The priest was denied communion. After the service, the Baptist minister apologized to his friend saying, “I’m sorry I had to deny you communion, but you’ve never been baptized”.

            To which the priest replied, “That’s okay. Had you offered it, I would have refused, because you’ve never been ordained.”

          • ArcticGrayling

            You are trying to appeal to a sense of logic. If bobby had any powers of logic, he wouldn’t have his head stuck so far up his ass to begin with.

            You might as well try to teach auto mechanics to your dog.

          • roboteq

            You are most likely correct, but I have faith that negative thinking people can at least try to think positive once in a while.

          • bobnstuff

            The link didn’t work.
            Some of the worst fights I have seen are between so called Christians, claiming the other each other are perverting the faith and that they are the only true Christians.

          • roboteq

            Sorry about that link not working. I agree that various sects of so called Christians don’t behave very Christ like because of their beliefs in man made dogma and doctrine. That is why, though I have belonged to a few different mainstream Christian organizations and visited others, I do not adhere to any Christian organization. The RCC pretty much bastardized the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Reformation only fixed some of the issues. The problem is with man, not God. Still, in my travels, I have never seen outright persecution of one Christian by another other than organizations such as the Westboro Baptists, who are not really Christian at all.

          • bobnstuff

            Right now and for the last few years there have been some large battle both between churches and inside churches because of gay marriage. The fight between the RCC and the Protestants has been one of the most violent over the last century. Even the Lutherans have their fights. When I was growing up we had two Lutheran churches about 500 yards from each other, one LCA and one Missouri synod. They didn’t talked to each other. No one were openly friendly with members of the other church.

          • roboteq

            It is true that the issue of homosexuality divided religious organizations as well as civic organizations, as it was intended to do. In fact, I stopped being active in a Missouri Synod Lutheran church I was a member of because of the politics surrounding whether or not homosexuals would be allowed to be members or not. I don’t believe that is a sort of thing that mere mortals are capable of judging one another on.
            I still have an issue with believing that being Episcopalian was the reason your sister was fired from a position at any college. Something else was going on.

          • bobnstuff

            It is a Baptist University and she wasn’t Baptist. Some how the didn’t catch that fact when they hired her. I guess they didn’t think a non Baptist could bring the right God into her classes.

          • roboteq

            Right God? Is there a wrong god? You are aware that God “Is”, regardless of how we view God or how we wrongly ascribe human factors to God, God “Is” and always will be the same. At the core, every Christian organization understands this. I simply don’t believe that your sister being an Episcopalian is the reason she was fired. What college is this?

          • bobnstuff

            If you don’t thing the way different churches look at God in very different way you should go visit a few different churches. Even their choice of Bibles tells you a lot about them. Churches that use the King James Bible tend to be much more conservative then those using the New International Version and are much more likely to try to exclude people from their churches. The God that these fundamentalist preach is much different then the one the more liberal churches. There is the God of Hell Fire and the God of love and grace. The God many of the Southern Baptists preach about is very different in nature from the one the Presbyterian talk about. You believe that God is at the core of the Church but in to many cases the church is there to reinforce social norms. How a church deals with gays is a good example of the difference in how churches view God. The Episcopal church ordains Gays and many Southern Baptist churches don’t even let them worship with them. You will notice that I say some when talking about the Baptists because they are all independent unlike many other denominations that have a standardized belief system.

          • roboteq

            I have already stated that I have belonged to a few different denominations and attended several more. I also do a lot of Bible study from the points of view of several sciences as well as theologically. Only when we nitpick are there actually differences in the teachings of the Bibles. Only when we add intent to passages do we get major differences, which can easily be dismissed.
            Take homosexuality for example. No where in any scripture is there anything about God hating homosexuals, as in persons of the same sex sharing physical love…OTHER THAN SODOMY. Sodomy is the only actual taboo of homosexuality mentioned in any passages of the Bible(s), and those passages relate to sodomy between a two men or between a man and a woman. In other words; the Bible(s) is telling us “that” is not the way to do it, and it can cause problems; so don’t do it.
            Yet, mankind adds intent to the passages and extends the text to mean things that are not implicitly even implied. I don’t know how that works out for homosexual men, but only sodomy is a problem, according to scripture; as it is written.
            There are many other social claims that are attributed to scripture that are not really so specifically laid out in scripture as some “extend” the intent to be.
            We also tend to put today’s meanings of translated terms into play when at the time those passages from scripture were first written down or otherwise relayed, they meant something entirely different. I like to use the term “hate” as an example for this because in the Hebrew (Christian Old) Testament, the term hate meant to reject something and had no emotional meaning. By the time the New Testament was written, the term “hate” had the emotional context more like it does today. A fascinating thing about this is when the man Jesus is speaking as a man and uses the term “hate”, He is referring to the emotional negative feeling, but when Jesus is speaking as God the Father, the term “hate” is used in Old Testament ways.

          • bobnstuff

            I have a habit of getting a little carried away with things, back in college I studied both Classical and Biblical Greek. What I really learned is that the Greeks had a word for it but English didn’t always have a similar one. I also figured out over the years is you can support almost any point of view with the bible even if they are totally against the true bases of the faith. To often people use religion as a club to attack others with or to justify hate for others. I truly feel sorry for those people, they are missing out on so much. We see people using the constitution in the same way as they use the bible, as a cub to hit people over the head with. They use the words but have long forgotten the spirit of it. In the time of the writing of our constitution things were very different. People had to depend on each other for everything. The class differences were still fairly small. The founding fathers could have never dreamed of what our country is today but they understood the importance of the joining together for the common good. The spirit of the constitution is being lost just as the spirit of the Christian faith is being lost. Greed and self is replacing good will and working for the common good. I live in an area that was small farms when I was growing up. everyone helped each other, no one farmer could do everything on their own but if they worked together everyone prospered. You had to have a level of faith in each other as well as faith in the universe. I don’t see that faith as much anymore. Not in the church and not in society. There is to much me and them and not enough we and us. I try to live the life Christ would have me live and remember the two great commandments, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; and to love your neighbor as yourself.” Luke 10:27

      • roboteq

        That is interestin, bobnstuff, because I can’t find any evidence of suppression of speech from any colleges other than left leaning colleges. Could you please show something that supports your claim that southern colleges suppress free speech the way Progressive colleges have been doing?

      • ArcticGrayling

        The verb is “accept”. Judging by some of your other comments, you would prefer that they promote Islam.

    • jea2comments

      The answer to that is NO! They can only speak IF their opinions line up with the left-wing liberal narrative. Liberal Colleges are nothing but liberal “brain-washing” centers. And perhaps the worst part is…parents are paying them to do this to their kids!

  • Tiger

    There is NO DEFENSE of curbing the Freedom of Speech given us in our Constitution. What they are doing is against our laws, there is no discussion here, only implementation of punishments for universities that practice this.

    PERIOD.

  • Ken says

    Funding any educational institution that promotes the decimation of the US Constitution should be a crime punishable by law.

    • bobnstuff

      Be careful what you wish for, there are as many on the right decimating the Constitution as anyone.

      • jea2comments

        And how is that? I’ll bet you can’t site any examples though…
        can you?

        • bobnstuff
          • jea2comments

            Your sources are ALL sell-outs in the media world. Trump does NOT have problems with the 1st Amendment! He largely speaks for the American people! It is you liberals that have tried to destroy freedom of speech at every turn, and 0bama was the poster-boy for the assault on our 1st – Amendment rights! QUIT blaming Trump…when it IS 0bama that IS guilty of assaulting free speech!

          • bobnstuff

            He has problems with both freedom of religion and freedom of the press, he has said it more then once as well as not liking the14th amendment.

          • jea2comments

            Site your sources…because frankly I don’t believe you. You say Trump has problems with freedom of religion, that is totally false, as he signed legislation in support of freedom of religion, not that long ago. He also just called for a National Day of prayer coming up in the next few days, on Labor Day I believe. I don’t recall Prez. Trump as saying anything about the 14th amendment either way. Site your sources and if they are from the mainstream media (MSM) and liberal sources don’t bother, as we all know they are nothing but LIARS!

          • bobnstuff

            “What we have here now in America are people who want to harm us, and I don’t care if you say you’re a peace loving Muslim. If you’re Muslim, you’re out to hurt us. Does this make me a horrible person for saying this? I don’t care. We need to keep the best interests of the nation at heart. So what do we need to do? Round them up, every last one of them. I don’t care if they were born here, work here, and are just minding their business, we round them up. Who knows when they could turn. Then, we put them in camps so we can keep close watch on them. They need to know that we mean business. And speaking of business, we can use them for cheap labor to manufacture goods here in the United States. — See, I’m a good guy, I’m willing to let them work. — Are people going to go after me because of this plan? Probably, but all good plans sound bad ttps://disqus.com/embed/comments/?base=default&f=1776coalition&t_i=87252%20http%3A%2F%2Fwww.1776coalition.com%2F%3Fp%3D87252&t_u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.1776coalition.com%2Frise-up-1%2Fcolleges-struggle-over-defending-or-curbing-free-speech%2F&t_e=Colleges%20struggle%20over%20defending%20or%20curbing%20free%20speech&t_d=Colleges%20struggle%20over%20defending%20or%20curbing%20free%20speech&t_t=Colleges%20struggle%20over%20defending%20or%20curbing%20free%20speech&s_o=asc&l=#
            until they’re proven to work. I guarantee you no Muslim extremist will ever harm another real American ever again. This is all part of how I’ll
            make America the greatest nation on earth again.”

            This is how Trump want’s to treat a entire religion.

            Do you know what the 14th amendment deals with? It’s the one that say if you are born here you are a citizen.

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2015/08/19/trump-throws-constitution-and-14th-amendment-under-the-bus/#c79d1cceb2ed

          • ArcticGrayling

            Muslims are out to hurt us. It’s in the Koran. Striking off the heads of non believers is pretty violent.

            Why should anybody care if we are wary of those who are scripturally obliged to kill those guilty of non belief?

            I can only take it from your comments that you approve of Muslims harming us.

          • bobnstuff

            You don’t read the Quran, I can tell because you are just repeating things you have been told it says. You also don’t read the Bible because in the Old Testament it has you killing non believers.
            Deuteronomy 17:2 – 17.7

          • Danang

            You are a real moron or just a left wing loon!ave you never heard of checking your information?https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7624ead53c7edcfc0abfc009ac956fd3eaf3f366f624b08b378f3ac22610afca.png

          • jea2comments

            Bobnstuff’s name should be PuffnStuff…

      • Ken says

        They are called RIN0s and are Liberal Elite Puppets like their DEM counterparts.

        • bobnstuff

          No in fact they are you Tea Party types who are getting their education on the constitution from the talking heads like Rush, Alex and Glen. Throw in Hannity and you have total misinformation.

          • Ken says

            You friggin idiot – go kiss “uncle george soros” ring.

          • bobnstuff

            If George is your uncle you should kiss his ring since he can buy or sell Trump five times. He didn’t have daddy to give him his money either. Unlike the Koch Brothers he’s not trying to rewrite the constitution either.

          • Ken says

            You are so correct – asshole George Sotos is trying to burn the Constitution

          • bobnstuff

            http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/koch-brothers-want-new-constitution-theyre-closer-you-think-2552039
            I fear you have been miss lead, it’s the Koch Brothers that want to make changes. I guess they want more money.

          • Ken says

            Take an English class – then suck it up and get a new script from Soros.

    • Roy Fredrichsen

      Hasn’t anyone learned that Communism, NAZIism, Socialism, and other forms of dictatorship does NOT work as Russia threw off Communism as a lost cause. How many times do you have to make the same mistakes and expect a different outcome?

  • bobnstuff

    A number of people have used the word communist here but I fear they don’t understand what communism is. I have never run into a communist even among the most liberal of the people I know. Having a state run economy where the state owns everything is not a popular idea anywhere.

    • goldie

      There are many steps to total communist takeover – we are well on our way.

      • bobnstuff

        No we are not, that pure BS. Communism is almost dead at this point and is dying more and more every day. Can you even name the communist countries? You confuse socialism with communism and the socialism that is around would be socialism lite. Also you do know socialism is an economic system as is communism. It has nothing to do with the type of government.

        • goldie

          Don’t tell me what I know. Do your research – and for your own sake, find credible sources.

          • bobnstuff

            Like Infowars? You see I can name the communist countries that are left. I also know what communism is. If anything it’s capitalism that’s taking over. As far a socialism goes some of the strongest economies and highest standard of living are nations that have socialism as part of the economic system.
            http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/

          • jea2comments

            Anti-capitalism isn’t a good thing…

          • jea2comments

            He can’t find any credible sources…because there are none!

          • Pete

            Communism is socialism out of the barrel of a gun.
            Nazi government of Adolph Hitler was the “National socialistic party” The function (in spite of the wording used to identify each) and methodology of militant socialistic governments is predictably similar.
            Present day adherents prefer to go by the term progressive, but again the function and methods (Antifa BLM, militant Islam, etc) are the same as the communist or the Nazi.

          • bobnstuff

            Let’s see which side has the guns, the right wing good old boys or those liberals? Which group has militias? What groups are militant? The progressives are the ones trying to make things better for everyone the conservatives are the every man for himself. The progressives look to the future while the conservatives want to go live in some mythical past that never was.

          • Pete

            “Progressive” is the current self identification adopted by the liberal socialists. When that name wears thin enough for the general public to recognize the Saul Alinsky mentality behind it, a new less offensive name will be adopted.
            Socialism when fully implemented results in economic collapse. The USSR, & Cuba are glaring historic examples.
            Venezuela in spite of it’s substantial crude oil assets is imploding, just the latest in a long line of socialistic failures.

          • bobnstuff

            So how do you think these countries are doing?

            China
            Denmark
            Finland
            Netherlands
            Canada
            Sweden
            Norway
            Ireland
            New Zealand
            Belgium
            All of these countries are socialist to some extent. Do you see China’s economy failing? Do you notice that a number of these countries have the highest standard of living. They all have better healthcare systems then the US.

          • Pete

            China was smart enough to modify the utopian model with an injection of capitalism when they saw the USSR go belly up.
            The Danes and Finns are on a slow walk into the scrap heap. You can not long sustain confiscation and redistribution of wealth. When the producer of that wealth ceases to produce you enter an economic death spiral that several European countries are experiencing.
            There is never enough resources in any country to permit the inevitable unchecked personal greed at the top of the socialistic states hierarchy. That unchecked greed is the Coup de Grace of nearly any forms of governance.
            The Representative Republic model in Article IV, Section 4 of our Constitution was designed to control that problem. Sadly we have deviated from that and an excessively expensive national government is the result.

    • Bob

      “A number of people have used the word communist here but I fear they don’t understand what communism is.” A like number have been bandying about the terms “fascist” and Nazi”, directed at any who oppose their views, but I would bet they have no idea about those, either. However, you and yours more often than not support those who will shout comments like that at the current Administration and any on campuses across the country who demand the rights of BOTH sides to free speech. Would you equally caution them as you do here?

      • bobnstuff

        I’m a strong believer in free speech for both sides, back when I was in college we brought in a member of the John Birch Society to speak on our campus. This was back in the early 70’s. That being said shouting isn’t what I would think of as speech and violence sure isn’t. I think everyone should listen to what the fascists and Nazi’s have to say so they can deal with it. Knowledge is power. Antifa is another term that is being used without care for what it is or means. It stands for anti fascist. You would think that it was a defined group like the KKK or the American Nazi Party with leaders and organization when in fact it’s just a name someone decided to put on anyone who doesn’t support Trump. People who use the term fascist are also don’t know what it means either. Trump is pretty much a fascist if you look at what he is trying to do but the people calling him one aren’t doing it because the understand it but just because it sounds good.

        • Bob

          From the Free Dictionary:
          “1. often Fascism. a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.”

          Break it down: “A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator…” Sounds like what folks wanted under Obama. He wanted greater and greater central governmental controls and ruled by Executive Orders when he did not get his way. Not exactly calling him a dictator but it is not allowing for the checks and balances provided for under our Constitution is he bypasses Congress at the drop of a hat, and brags about it (“I have a phone and a pen…”)

          “…violent suppression of the opposition…,” like the “demonstrators” did during the inaugural, in Baltimore and Ferguson, and so many other places, yes including Charlotte where they threw bottles and other items at the White Supremacists.

          “…typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism” while you folks may believe that saying “America First” would qualify, you are wrong. Explain why the President, the leader of THIS country, should NOT put HIS country and his people before others? I would submit that any President who did NOT put the safety, security and prosperity of HIS country first would be not only in violation of his oath of office but unfit to sit in the chair.

          • bobnstuff

            https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
            Definition of fascism

            1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and
            that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

            I think I will go with Merriam- Webster on this one.
            Trump tries to run the country like a business which by nature a dictatorial style. He Tries to suppress any one who opposes him by bullying them. He is racist in his attacks on Hispanics, Muslim’s and other groups.

          • Bob

            Go with which ever you want, they are saying the same thing. And they all point directly to Obama
            and the Democrats.

            “He Tries to suppress any one who opposes him by bullying them” Like Obama never did this?

            You call Trump a racist because of his “attacks” on groups, what of Obama and his attacks on Police? He stated they “acted stupid” because they dared to ask for ID from a Professor trying to get into a house. Had this been an actual break in and they knuckled under to the racism of the professor and his hatred of the Police, they would have been accused of not doing their job. He went after Officer Wilson for shooting the “unarmed” Michael Brown, ignoring the fact that the Officer was being assaulted by a larger individual and was fighting for his life. He went after George Zimmerman, an Hispanic male who shot the “unarmed” Trayvon Martin, who was sitting on his chest, assaulting him after making racist remarks to his friend (“I’m gonna get this cracker”). He even stated his son would look like Trayvon, meaning I guess he would raise a racist who assaults those smaller than him.

          • bobnstuff

            When did Obama not back down, as far as that goes the whole Democratic party is pretty spineless. It’s the please don’t hurt me party. Had Obama bullied he might have gotten some more things done but after the republicans got the house he was very limited in what he could do. Now tell me what group Trump hasn’t attacked. He didn’t even stand up for the Jews. If you aren’t white you are in trouble.

          • jea2comments

            Wrong again! Trump stands up for ALL people and he also supports the Jews! Bibi Netanyahu breathed a sigh of relief when Trump got into office! 0bama did everything in his power to hurt the American people and the Jews at every turn!

          • bobnstuff

            There where some good people marching chanting anti somatic statements, or at least that what Trump said. Now your going to claim that he didn’t say it but then why is his cabinet running away from it. Donald is just like his dad isn’t he.

          • jea2comments

            Anyone chanting anti-Semitic statements is NOT a good person, regardless if they are a liberal or a conservative. Hate…is hate. Site your sources…about the so-called event. You lack credibility. And for you to slam Trump’s Dad is a low blow.REALLY…knocking someone who is dead is really despicable..but then again…you’re a libtard and it’s to be expected!

          • bobnstuff
          • jea2comments

            I doubt that very much especially about Trump’s dad. Your sources are liberal sources and we know their record of telling the truth! WA PO is a total joke! They simply can’t or won’t tell the truth. Or they put their own spin on each story to fit their left-wing narrative. The others you mention in your post are likely the same.

          • bobnstuff

            I guess you have never heard of the National Review, most likely the most conservative publication in the US today.

          • jea2comments

            Go back to HUFFPO…libtard!

          • roboteq

            You do realize that Islam fits the Merriam-Webster definition of fascism, don’t you?
            President Trump is a true Capitalist. To a true Capitalist, everyone must have a win in a deal. That is why President Trump is best for the most American citizens. President Trump is defying both the right and the left extremes in order to make the best deals for the vast majority of American citizens who fall between the extreme ideologies of the far left and the far right. Like him or not, President Trump is the best leader for the U.S. today.

          • ArcticGrayling

            Islam is not a race.

          • bobnstuff

            You are right, it’s a religion. One that is practiced by a very large number of people all over the would.

          • jea2comments

            Your description fit 0bama to a tee…

        • jea2comments

          Wrong again! It was 0bama that was the Fascist!

    • ArcticGrayling

      People keep trying that insanity. One of the latest examples is Venezuela.

  • Gregg Jensen

    Well done, Liberals/Progressives, you have shot yourselves in the foot. Too late for an injection of spine and principles.

  • donl

    Some of our College’s are LEFT leaning or just plain Communist sympathizers and we all know they do not believe in Any Freedom, let alone Freedom of speech. Not being able to express yourself is a form of enslavement. I for one am going to express myself “peacefully” if I feel the need.

  • DrBillLemoine

    To assess ‘free speech’ opportunities at colleges, we must talk specific places as there are vast differences among them and vast differences in student body socioeconomic status which customarily drives social or intellectual issues like this. Deep South universities according to conservative blog articles and comments are less apt to allow free speech from people who’s philosophies and actions are ‘free’ and contrary to their avowed aims and beliefs. Liberty, Jim Jones and similar schools seem to have a pretty narrow vision of truth which free speech fosters, truths they find socially or religiously objectionable. I believe there’s nothing that cannot be talked about rationally, in or out of college, but belief system vary on that accord. Be very careful not to generalize about free speech at a particular college without knowing it’s belief system and the socioeconomic values/statuses of parents and their children as students.

    • Pete

      Why then Professor, do we have a constant barrage of Antifa inspired beatings and property destruction at non southern colleges & universities??
      Antifa, BLM & Militant Islam will, given the chance, butcher you progressive/socialists right long with the rest of us. They are not now and never will be your friend..

      • bobnstuff

        Just how many Antifa beatings have there been? As far as I can tell there have been all of three reported and I don’t even trust those reports. There is much more violence after football games. There are 4,726 Colleges in the US so if they have protests on 50 campuses it’s still only 1% of the colleges. BLM itself does not promote violence and speaks out against it and there are no openly militant Islam groups that I have heard of anywhere in the US. You fear a boggy man created by the Right Wing Talk Show hosts.

        • jea2comments

          I guess you didn’t see the Antifa and BLM in action in Charlottesville ey? It was all over the internet…there were way more than three of them! Your opinions are NOT based on facts! And as far as the BLM goes…they are also a violent group! Quit protecting these anarchist groups!

      • DrBillLemoine

        I’m not aware of any ‘constant barrage’ of beatings by Antifa or any other demonstrators outside of Berkley, which speaks for itself over the years. Remember anybody can ‘claim’ affiliation with Antifa, true or not, just like ISIL claims Islam (not real), and KKK claims religion. Don’t be gullible about sources proven unreliable about such reports–Breifbart, Freedom Outpost, Godfather Politics, etc. Your post shows us how you have been suckered into faux news, propaganda and bigotry at least about ‘butchering’. I have friends among the groups you ‘fear’; no butchers among them, only peaceful neighborliness.

        • jea2comments

          Let me guess you’re a college professor right? What you’re saying is totally false! And just for the record, the right-wing sources you SLAM in your post…are far more credible than any LEFT-wing FAKE NEWS mainstream media (MSM) will ever be. I love how Trump exposed the libtard MSM for the LIARS they are!

          • DrBillLemoine

            Any thoughtful person observing the news daily knows the truth of what I wrote. If you believe MSM isn’t better than right wing blogs, you are not a thoughtful observant person, simply an ideologue, parroting the party line. I’ve made a living finding and using reliable and valid data sources, taught the skill to dozens of others who are not supporting liars–right wing media, you or Trump.

          • jea2comments

            It is you that has drunk the libtard kool-aid…and YES I don’t believe anything that the mainstream media says! They are nothing but a pack of hateful, spiteful LIARS! They showed their true colors when 0bama was in office. NEVER once did they question or attack 0bama like they have Trump! For you to back the MSM and to teach others…makes you as bad as the MSM.
            The MSM has lied to the American people for far too long…I consider them to be an enemy of the American people.

          • DrBillLemoine

            I have an ex-father-in-law just like you. Doesn’t believe anything in the news. It’s counterproductive to most people functioning in the real world. You forget that news is a business and subject to lawsuits for publishing false information. Everything is confirmed although reporters respect privacy for tipsters and leakers, a valid source of much good information and dirt. Without them RMNixon would have completed his term as a crook. Do you approve of that, of presidents being above the law, something newsmen ferret out as their job in a democracy? Are you a closet dictator-supporter, favor less freedom, like suppression of ordinary people? If so, you belong in another country, not this one. Your post is rife with anti-democracy beliefs, so you spit in the faces of all patriots and military men who have fought and died to let you to post your crap. You don’t keep a democracy with media publishing lies, and they are simply doing their jobs, hardly enemies of the state–or you. Quite immature views of our great nation.

          • jea2comments

            You are a clueless libtard! I don’t like the LAME mainstream media MSM because they are nothing but LIARS! Americans voted for Trump and what does your MSM do; except bash him. Too bad the mainstream media didn’t bash Dictator 0bama, who actually deserved it! Did you approve of “lawless 0bama” getting away with all his crimes? Funny how the LAME MSM was “silent” and never challenged 0bama, but are on every movie that Trump makes and they fight Trump on a daily basis! I think “most” people with two eyes, two ears, and two brain cells, are seeing through the MSM and their charade of LIES! And by-the-way, it IS your posts that reek of anti-democracy and you’re no patriot. Your left-wing libtard bias has outed you for the radical liberal that you are! It is you and your party of Libtards that are disconnected from REALITY!

          • DrBillLemoine

            Like those who don’t pay attention to details (provided in reliable and valid media), you don’t like truth and condemn yourself to lies. Lawbreaking and Constitution thwarting are crimes and deserve ‘bashing’ by all Americans, not just media whose job it is to uncover wrongdoing for us. Obama was a clean legitimate president but nearly all done by Trump is devious and sensational which attracts you. His bluster is a dodge from truth at every turn. If you don’t believe domestic mainstream media, but only your partisan rags, what does it profit foreign press and leaders to bash, or evade, Trump as well? You aren’t thinking straight or walking on the strait and narrow, being overcome by evil.
            But you simulate that un-American side of false news accusing me without a shred of evidence of being anti-democratic and not patriotic. My bias is for truth, justice and a greater America–not constant Trump lies, inequity for minorities nor empty slogans like you. You don’t know reality.

          • jea2comments

            Everything you accuse me of…you are guilty of! After-all that is the the Number 1 Rule for Radicals “Always accuse others of what you yourself are guilty of.” Saul Alinsky is probably your hero. We know he was and IS Hitlery’s and 0bama’s role model and they both follow(ed) his playbook to the tee. The truth is I’m a REALIST and you’re not! You’re no patriot…you’re just Left-wing liberal radical.

          • DrBillLemoine

            As a scientist and statistician, I’m trained to follow the facts, trends and percentages. Your posts have been emotional, fact free and off-the-topic, more political than analytical. You are what you show in your writing. So the wild and false charges laid on me (Alinsky, really?) your baseless charges (the same) on irrelevant (to this discussion) Hillary and Barack (no juvenile name calling and lack of parallelism by me) and self-styled realist label are simply off the topic, I guess because you lack facts, arguments and logic.
            Go back to school, study writing and debate in English classes and then post for credibility.
            You have free speech guarantees here and by me, but that doesn’t make your posts very good or to-the-point.

          • jea2comments

            Trained to follow the facts…are you…and what facts have you pointed out? You’ve simply given your opinion and political opinions and you seem to think you know more than the majority of Americans…who overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Not too many are impressed by your posts and I’m certainly not.

          • DrBillLemoine

            Aren’t you aware that ‘opinions’ of progressives come from facts? Where did I say I know more than you? Actually the overwhelming popular vote was Hillary’s. That’s a fact, 3 million or so of them. BTW teachers don’t wait for applause to tell the truth. Haven’t you been in school long enough to know that?

          • Helland

            You know I really detest “progressive rhetoric”, HOWEVER….Stay safe. Our kids will be fine, although staying in place due to job requirements. I look forward to continuing our jousts.

        • Pete

          Blunder on professor, blunder on. Those “friends” will one day turn on you, it IS their nature.

          • DrBillLemoine

            Patent nonsense continues from you. Either you have a wild imagination or you are plain lying with no real world experience.

          • Pete

            23 years as a Military Intelligence Officer provided ample time to observe different ideologies in actual practice.
            But, professor please proceed at your own pace. I HAVE seen the inevitable result first hand.

          • DrBillLemoine

            I know ordinary citizens from all walks of life who have a better view of ideologies than you, who offers no comparisons. No doubt leaders change and so do their nation’s ideologies to match. No big observation.

          • Pete

            Blunder on professor, blunder on.

  • ArcticGrayling

    It’s simpler than all of that really. How employable is any piece of shit “graduating” from one of these “colleges”? With the mindset they must have after spending time in those cesspools, what self-respecting company would want them?

    • Norman Fox

      Do not look to my company. I have enough of the last 8yrs of obommee and his destruction to last a life time

    • mudguy1

      But big problem is that now all those so call employable ones that “graduated” are running these “colleges” or are now judges in our courts.

      • jea2comments

        Throw the libtard judges OUT! They need to abide by the constitution or get De-benched! Our judicial system needs to be seriously reformed!

  • ZACAL

    These colleges and universities need to take a refresher course explaining to them how Isaac Newtons theory works. “For every action there is an equal and counter reaction” that theory has come back and bit these “institutions of higher learning”???? In the ASS. It’s obvious the media needs to join them. As far as the swamp goes, they’re a lost bunch of fools.

  • Patriot47

    LSM pushing liberal agenda and open communism emboldened the useful idiots to the point where they thought they could survive the light of day in America. Unable to see 2016’s message for what is was, they continue against a GROWING backlash. Most of the liberal agenda is unconstitutional and now exposed. Enrollment suffering? Contributions suffering? Best call for uncle Georgie money.

    Out of the dark a little too soon knuckleheads? Not enough brainwashed yet? You ain’t seen nuthuin’ yet!

    • Pete

      A mind is a terrible thing to waste, but academia manages to waste an inordinate number of young minds.

    • Norman Fox

      Well I sure do not want to contribute to socialism,Communism leftist liberal snowflake dumocrats education. We have a constitution and a way of life in the United States. If they do not like our rules, simple leave the country. It will not bother me

    • goldie

      In the sense of your comment, obama was a blessing on this country – the scourge woke up the populace.

      • jea2comments

        WOKE UP…is right!

        • Kenneth Hadler

          Unfortunately, there are still many who are walking around in their sleep!

    • jea2comments

      Yep! I agree. These knuckleheads going to college these days…is proof college doesn’t make one smart.

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