Rank And File Union Members In The Rust Belt Propelled Trump To The White House

by Ted Goodman | The Daily caller  |  published on November 14, 2016

TrumpTuesday’s election results sent shock waves across the globe after voters selected President-elect Donald Trump as the 45th president — but the results may not have been as surprising to America’s rust belt.

Trump’s message on jobs, trade and the economy resonated in battleground states that turned red for the first time in decades. Trump was able to take in a good number of rank and file union members who usually vote Democrat, even though many union leaders threw support behind former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Clinton still beat Trump by eight points among union households, but that number is 10 points lower than the union household support Obama received over Romney in 2012, according to a Fox News exit poll.

  • Retired

    The Gov.unions as well as the educator unions are the ones that support the Dems. the most. Those workers that lost jobs under Clinton did not forget.

  • justinwachin

    Many of these trade deals were touted as being good for America. Most of them have not turned out to be as good as promised. President Trump’s administration needs to look at each deal. Some need to be renegotiated and some need to be terminated.

  • Patriot47

    During the last eight years, liberals, democrats, RINOs, LSM all came out of hiding and exposed to the entire population who and what they are – anti-American to the core. What got Trump elected was that clarity. It galvanized the people to defeating the old hag – obozo 2.0.
    Now this group of morons are laying landmines predictably. They learned NOTHING. They operate on emotion bypassing higher brain function.

  • itsfun

    The rank and file members of the unions are hard working family people. The Democratic Party used to be for them. Now it is the Republican Party that wants less taxes on the working families. Its the Republican Party that wants more jobs here in the U.S. Now only the union leaders are for the Democratic Party. Makes one wonder who the leaders are really for?

    • Retired

      Their own wallets, Union leaders making $200,000.00 plus have forgotten to take care of the working people.

      • itsfun

        That is exactly the way I see it.

  • bobnstuff

    These Union folk are suckers. There is a number of reasons why the factories moved out of the rust belt and Trump has no solution for any of them. The decline of the Rust Belt started long before NAFTA and we have built a number of new factories making cars in the US, none of them in the north. Just like we will not be building new steel mills in Pittsburgh the auto industry isn’t coming back to the rust belt.

    • Rodney Steward

      They’re no bigger a sucker than U bobby, at least they opened their minds to change, and not stuck in a gutter like you! You not killed yourself yet, what’s the hold up, I’ll mail U a bullet if U can’t afford one!!

      • bobnstuff

        They think that Trump can bring Steel mills back to Western Pa, what a joke. I guess you believed this also.

        • Rodney Steward

          Have you not seen where Ford is bring back one of their truck lines from mexico, and Trump’s not even went into office yet!! Already looking good for the good guys bobby!! Let me know when U want that Bullet!

          • bobnstuff

            Ford hadn’t cut jobs in the US to send them to Mexico and they have been using their large plants in Ohio for their best selling vehicles. Trump misspoke when he talked about Ford. I guess you didn’t catch the news. Maybe you should get your news from real news sources instead of Fox.
            http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/26/news/companies/donald-trump-ford-mexico/index.html

          • Rodney Steward

            You might need to recheck, it was on this morning about one part of the truck that’s made is headed home, it was on this morning!! Most of them will come home to roost bobby!!

          • bobnstuff

            No I think you need to recheck if you know how. Your knowledge of NAFTA and international trade is as great as your love of Obama.

          • Rodney Steward

            You finally got something right bobby, you’re right, they ALL SUCK!! Are you going to turn to a muslim too, you’d make a good one, very weak minded!!

          • bobnstuff

            I have respect for Islam as a religion because I have taken the time to understand their faith. Your understanding of anything not written in crayon is very limited so I wouldn’t expect you to understand anything.

          • Rodney Steward

            Of course you respect islam, the whole socialist Dem. party does, but try and tell the people of Europe that are having their women and children, boys and girls raped and beaten! I have no use for the cult B-TARDS that we’re going to have to fight much sooner than you think! I hope so much that where you live is loaded with these fake refugees, and after about a week, let us all know how much you love the SOB’s!

          • bobnstuff

            It’s sad how little you know about the world. Europe’s Muslim population has been growing for decades but their crime rate has been going down for most of that time.
            http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/19/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/

          • Rodney Steward

            My God bobby, do you even have TV where you live, are you really this brainwashed this bad to the Dem. party, you look like a RETARD! It truly is a F’N sickness with you DEMS. no wonder people are leaving the party or voting different because of the too far left sickness! No wonder you lost everything, now they want Pelussy and Warren gone from the party, but we know that they let Reid go, just waiting for his term to end! You are one sick puppy!!

    • Retired

      Gov. controls was a big part along with old buildings. US industry would not reinvest in its plants to modernize .In the 90s my Co. was still running WW2 surplus machines that were worn badly. The stock market also played into the picture as well as Unions.

      • bobnstuff

        Back in the 50’s company reinvested because they would be hit big time on taxes, up to 90% tax. As we lowered taxes investment also dropped. Now instead of the companies net worth being important it’s all about stock value and dividends. Instead of building factories we pay large bonuses to over paid CEO’s. Those steel mills that shut down in the 70’s and 80’s were totally out of date. Other countries had rebuilt after the war and had new equipment but not us. Basic industry isn’t what it once was. That being said America is still a manufacturing giant with the largest economy in the world. I’m from Pittsburgh and my family worked in those now gone steel mills. We also saw Westinghouse Electric get broken up and go away in the 80’s. There wasn’t any NAFTA back then and we didn’t do much trading with China either. Those jobs in some cases went south and in others they just went away because we stopped using the products. Pittsburgh recovered and reinvented it’s self. Government and private capital worked together to build new industries. We still make steel here, lots of steel but now we do research and development. Some of the old companies are still here like PPG and United States Steel but we have added high tech jobs to the mix. Most coal mining left this area a while back leaving behind much of the area undermined. Coal mining has been going away for a long time here not because of regulations but because the coal was running out, all the easy to get coal is gone. Now it’s natural gas that is booming. Our natural gas is the type that is used to make plastic. There are still towns around here that aren’t back but many more are doing just fine. My point is that because Pittsburgh’s government and its industries worked together things happened for the good. The Regional Industrial Development Corporation , RIDC, took many of the old factories and recreated them into business centers. where there was one company now there are many. No one industries failure can cripple the region again.

        • Retired

          Americas Industry is still alive in other countries and importing the products to the US. GM is building cars in China and Mexico. Ford is building a new plant in Mexico. Steel is being imported instead of the US ,WHY . Gov. controls is the biggest problem. Drug manufacturers went of shore for the same reason. Government jobs is the biggest employer in the US today instead of manufacturing.

          • bobnstuff

            GM builds cars in China to sell in China. No US jobs were lost by this action and in fact we sent parts to build those cars there that are made here. If you read the article you would see that Ford has spent more money on US factories then on the ones in Mexico. The balance of trade with Mexico and Canada isn’t all that bad, they import a lot from us. As their economy grows so does ours. If you really want to know what happened to our jobs go look at our modern factories, Automation has changed everything. An example is the Pittsburgh Brewing Company. It took 300 people make beer in their old brewery. They moved into a new brewery and now they can make the same beer with 7 people. America manufactures very close to the same amount as China does but we do it with one sixth the number of workers. Many things have changed in how we do things. Mining coal by digging tunnels is going away, we only have 12 major tunnel mines still working. A lot of the old tunnel mines are just played out. Now we take the tops off of mountains or dig deep holes. It’s cheaper and safer. Modern Steel mills us one fourth the number of workers to make steel and it’s better steel. If you want to know who’s jobs Mexico is really stealing look at China. In the fifties Science Fiction writers were writing about a world where robots had taken over all manufacturing giving people time to enjoy life. It’s happening.

          • Retired

            You are wrong GM is importing models being built in China. People are enjoying life through Robots without a income and jobs. You are telling the joke of the century.

          • bobnstuff

            You are right and I am wrong. Thank you. I did some digging and not only are they selling a Buick but next year they are planning to sell a Cadillac. This has to be one of the bigger bonehead moves for GM. If you have ever had any dealings with Chinese vehicles you would agree. They are junk. I own a Chinese Motor Scooter, I have never had a worse piece of junk. Anyone who buys a car made in China deserves what they get. I have no real problem with doing business with Mexico, they buy from us and by improving their economy we benefit. China on the other hand is a problem. I’m no fan of Trump and I’m not sure he is up for the job but I do hope he can make China play fair. I don’t hold much hope in his being able to do much but in this case it would be a good thing to try. One thing for sure, I will never buy a car made in China.

            Having robots doing all the work would be alright but only is everyone shares in the benefits.

          • Retired

            My Mexican built Buick was a problem car from the first week on till I traded it in. China will destroy the US the first chance it gets. They are not building the biggest military for looks as well as the reef military base. The US manufacturers need to return to the US.

          • bobnstuff

            I have had cars built in Japan, Germany, Sweden, Canada, and the US. Some good some bad. I would never buy one built in China, the steel is crap. They haven’t a clue on painting things. You seem to think that we don’t manufacture much he anymore but if you look you will find that there is lots of manufacturing going on. We make almost as much stuff here as they do in China. The interesting thing is manufactures are having problems finding workers. Those displaced steel workers are to old and the West Virginia miners are in West Virginia. Building a factory in West Virginia isn’t practical. Have you ever been to West Virginia? Most of those without good jobs today are either in the wrong place or can’t pass a drug test. Oil and Natural Gas isn’t hiring because there is to much product out there keeping prices low. In my area there are manufacturing jobs going bagging. In 2014 we exported $1.45 Trillion dollars of products. Over the years American manufacturing has been going up even though the number of people involved has been going down.

          • Retired

            Where is all this Manufacturing going on that we are exporting and what are we exporting other than Oil and our Dollars ?

          • bobnstuff

            I live in an upper middle class neighborhood and there are still five factories with in four miles of me, three export products. We export the equipment to make things. We even export steel, in 2015 we produced 78.92 million metric tons of steel making us the forth largest producer in the world. If you want to see steel being made we have a large steel mill just twelve miles from me in East Pittsburgh. China is the largest manufacture of steel but it’s garbage. A friend of mine bought some for his company but they couldn’t use it because of the low quality. His company make high voltage switches and they sell them all over the world. It takes very little looking to find manufactures in the Pittsburgh region. In basic industries we produce Steel, Aluminum, Glass and Plastic. We still do coal but not as much as back in the day, most mines have petered out and the seam is only a foot or so thick. Now it’s natural gas, and that has given us the plastic industry. The first commercial gas well was drilled three miles from here. We also have a number of medical devise companies who sell world wide. Bayer’s US head quarters are on the other side of town from me but the factory that makes the Aspirin is fifteen minutes from me. No there is a lot of manufacturing going on if you pay attention. The rusty old factories from steels golden age are now filled with a wide range of companies making a number of things.

          • Retired

            That does not make it that way all over the country.

          • bobnstuff

            There are some places that for one reason or another are still having problems but for everyone of those there are five that are doing just fine. Look at the factories being built in the sun belt. Look at the number of factories Toyota has built in our country in the last twenty years. http://toyota.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7660/~/where-are-toyota-vehicles-assembled-for-the-u.s.-market%3F
            Honda builds cars and there small engines in Tennessee. The solar industry is new and they now employ more people then coal. There are new manufactures springing up and old ones expanding. Stanly Tools is bring back a number of lines that were made overseas. If you watch the news you only see the bad stuff but if you look around you will find that it’s not the end of the world and that all in all the country is doing OK. I have spent most of my life in business and have both started a number of my own businesses but also work with helping others do start ups. It gives you a different point of view. Even now that I’m retired I still can’t help but look an empty build and think,”What business could I put in there?”
            Next time your are in a store start looking for the made in the USA label, you will be surprised at how many things are American made and the different thing we make.

          • Rodney Steward

            Bobby is one sick puppy!!

          • Retired

            Probably one of them Wall street boys who has no clue of real life.

  • ArcticGrayling

    I wonder what Romney thinks now. My information is that he had eaten crow and has called Trump to congratulate him.

    • gerald Hughes

      P on Romney, McCain and all of the Bushes

      • itsfun

        P on all RINO’s

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