Sanders loyalists warn Democratic Party could rupture over Clinton nomination

by Associated Press | FOXNews.com  |  published on July 27, 2016


PHILADELPHIA – Bernie Sanders loyalists warned that the Democratic Party could rupture over the nomination of Hillary Clinton after a volatile night that saw a large group of Sanders delegates and supporters exit the party’s national convention to stage a sit-in at a nearby media tent.

They rejected Sanders’ call for unity even after the Vermont senator took the symbolic step of declaring Clinton the winner of the state-by-state delegate count inside the convention in Philadelphia.

“I suspect we are witnessing an event that will fundamentally change American politics,” said Cory James, 22, a college student from Flint, Michigan, who expects the Democratic Party to break apart over Clinton’s victory.

Thousands of activists have taken to the streets during the convention this week to voice support for Sanders, a liberal U.S. senator, and his progressive agenda. The “Bernie or bust” brigades that have marched across the sun-warped city threatened to disrupt Clinton’s moment as the first woman to be nominated for president by a major U.S. political party.

“We all have this unrealistic dream that democracy is alive in America,” said Debra Dilks, of Boonville, Missouri, who spoke as a protest broke up near Philadelphia’s City Hall.

  • Deceit and lies seems to be the way all elected officials, including Presidents is the norm for them. A long time ago in the old Testament, the people wanted a king, no longer wanting to listen to God, so God warned them things would happen, but they would not listen, so He said…okay, go for it. And ever since we have had problems…those that wanted to take over the world to those that became greedy, rich, and wanted power to boot. This is called human nature, the bad side of it. The good side is to care, show love by actions, giving of oneself, doing what is right. Its so easy to do evil, instead of doing good. How many dictators have we seen come and go? And they left many horrors behind in their reign, unspeakable horrors. Will they that have died get away with what they have done? No, their time is coming. God watches everyone…their hearts, their actions, etc. Nope, none of us are going to get away with anything. God has allowed man freedom toward their actions and exactly what man is going to do with that freedom. He is watching us very closely every day and He does have two books [look it up in the bible ], one has our names in it and the other has our true hearts and actions in it. Time is running out [ how long we have left, only God knows, but He has placed signs there for us ] and all of us need to ask his forgiveness and begin to change.

    • I Seigel

      Trump seems to admire Saddam Hussein. And Putin. Do I recall him saying nice things about Mussolini a while back? Go figure.

      • I don’t think he admires these type people, but I do think, he compares the backbone of someone like Putin to the non- backbone of someone like Obama. In other words, we need a strong leader who cares and we don’t have one.

  • Phil Esposito

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad they are protesting Hildebeast, but do they even know what socialism is? Do they want to be taxed at 90% to pay for all the lazy fucks that don’t want to work? And have the gov’t run everything?

    • I Seigel

      Do YOU even know what socialism is? Do you realize that Social Security is socialism? Paying property taxes, or income taxes, is socialism. You don’t really think that, all by yourself, you pay for the water you use, or the sidewalk you walk on, or the school that your kid goes to? No, of course not. Your taxes are combined with everyone else’s FOR THE COMMON GOOD. That’s socialism. Let’s get real here and not demonize something just because of a word.

      • savage

        social security is a private insurance company,like any other.doesn’t have anything to do with the federal govt.same thing as federal reserve bank.USA is the only country in the world with no national bank.I mean THE BANK of THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA.do you think milions of people risked their lives to escape socialism,because was so sweet and fair?I’m one of them from behind the former iron curtain.google more on soros webs!

      • Phil Esposito

        You’re an idiot. SS is not socialism, you pay in to get back for retirement. Paying prop taxes pays for sewers and improvements to the city you live in. Income taxes pay for the fed gov’t. Main question: why the fuck do you troll conservative sites when you belong on salon.com?

        • I Seigel

          I troll because even morons like you deserve some educating. It’s what I do to repay the government for all the free stuff they give me.

          And as to Social Security – so you get out just what you pay in, huh? You’re dreaming. And yes, you’re right. You pay taxes to 2 different entities for different services. That’s not the point. The point is that your taxes are combined with those of your fellow citizens to collectively provide for the common good and common welfare. That, my friend, is socialism. I hate to break it to you. Try not to faint or go nuclear or get depressed.

          • Phil Esposito

            Blow me bitch.

  • I Seigel

    This is interesting. I don’t recall Fox News, or this website, running stories about Republicans predicting the rupture and ruin of the Republican Party if Trump were the nominee.

    • savage

      that’s because Trump,unlike hitlery,is not a thief,making a living as a govt. burocreat on people’s money.

  • Carl Lewis

    Tis a pity that this is happening to such a worthy person as Mrs.Clinton. After all, she has been on the public dole, and received public monies, one way or another, since her days as “First Woman” in Billy’s Arkansas governor’s mansion. Her experience in “cashing in” is unmatched in U.S.’s history. She has the only experience(notoriey) of taking, as hers, priceless portraits, and other works of art, artifacts from The People’s House, claiming that it was just a ” misunderstanding”. History will show that she was not only the first female DNC nominee, but the first one to have had a year long FBI investigation into her illegal use of a private server by which she received, stored and sent serious, secret, confidental and top secret documents. She will also have the distinction of having a former president intervene, on her behalf, with the Attorney General of the U.S.A. on the tarmac at a US airport in secrecy. A meeting, which on its optics alone, speaks volumes about possible corruption in the highest levels of our beloved government. Given the eventual outcome of ” NO BILL OF INDICTMENT”, my immediate last statement now “has legs”. Who would have bet that Mrs.Clinton walks on ALL charges? The people of this country should be outraged. Instead they nominated her for the highest job in our government. Shame on us all!

    • Phillip Raymond Winter

      Amen!

    • c88

      Carl Lewis—-Excellent post. The distinction of the US in history has always been that we could somewhat comfortably believe there wouldn’t be extreme corruption in our gov’t due to checks and balances. We are witnessing history in the making of the destruction of this unique country through the illegal executive Obama orders and now the entire administration forcing this most corrupt, inept woman down our throats. The election will be rigged due to Obama and George Soros, and the corrupt Clinton machine..

    • I Seigel

      And where is the honor of nominating a twice-divorced, multi-bankrupted, multi-sued businessman with a known record of cheating employees and contractors, outsourcing jobs, and insulting women, veterans, and the handicapped? Shame on us all!

      • SD of AZ

        And your proof I seigel. Being a retired CPA and BSA I can say your post is full of lies! So prove it to me, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt you are full of crap and a lying dem wit dem!

        • I Seigel

          SD, in my post that you replied to, tell me one thing I said that was a lie. Please. You being a CPA and all.

      • savage

        is not the “honor” of nominating a twice divorced,is the management of the country,only a businessman can manage a business,small or large as a country.o’bama never managed even a hot dog cart business.hitlery,on the other hand,is managing stolen money business, aka “foundation”.and you are a lazy socialist,waiting to be assisted by “federal” programs,in order to survive.go get a job,make a living and pay your bills!

        • I Seigel

          The government is not a business, and Congressmen, Senators, mayors and judges are not the President’s employees or contractors. Will those simple facts ever sink in?

          • savage

            the government is a business.is a business of making money.why do you think so called politicians are spending so much money to get the office?to make more money.were you born today?
            why do you spend money to go thru college?to make a lot of money as MD.

          • I Seigel

            That’s the absolute STUPIDEST argument I think I’ve ever heard.

            Yes, we go to college to be able to have a career in which we can make money and support ourselves. Some people choose medical and law careers, for example, and SOME are motivated by the promise of the big paycheck, and SOME actually want to contribute to society, to improve people’s lives – whether that be thru practicing environmental law, treatment of childhood disease, prosthetics for veterans, or laws involving abused women or exploited children.

            I would say that politicians get into public service for exactly the same reasons – some to make money, some to help people. My view of the world reveals to me that Republicans, by and large, get into politics BECAUSE they have lots of money to begin with and want to amass more. Of course, there are many exceptions – take Pres George HW Bush, for one, who, AFTER he left office, continued to do lots of good things in public service. But those Republicans seem to be few and far between. Carter, Bill Clinton and other Democrats represent the other side, who seem to have gotten into politics NOT from a position of money and who, after leaving office, continue to do good things to help society, and made money as a product of that work, not as the goal.

            But to equate government as being a business just shows you have a fundamental lack of understanding of civics, business, capitalism and patriotism.

  • Dan

    End result….Hillary loses votes in November and loses the election!

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    • Phillip Raymond Winter

      We can all hope so!

    • c88

      Dan—I hope you’re right, but I truly believe it will be rigged b/c George Soros owns the company that counts the votes!!!! Can’t be any more convenient than that!

  • regulus30

    IT’S “NOT” democratic” it is democrat/communists.

    • Worried Vet

      Socialist they have become socialist. Young people don’t get free don’t work. It’s sad the GOP losing a teachable moment by not pushing how bad socialism is. They could run ads showing Venezuela and how much suffering is caused by socialism. Then Bernie supporters might vote for Trump. What a waste. Instead the GOP i defending bathrooms and crap. It’s what liberal do deflect to avoid the truth.

      • regulus30

        yes, and cuuba and Bolivia whose socialist diktater has been removed; the problem is, third world countries have suffered under this misguided utopia illusion; young millenials have been brainwashed for decades in America’s socialist public schools, the profethers have never had a real job, they theorize around the faculty water cooler [aka obammie] and convince these young people fairness is more important than capitalism, until these skulls full of mush have first hand experiences as to the harm SOCIALISM DOES they won’t change their minds. It will be the grandchildren of these morons who dig into the archives found in some old history books in their papa’s attic who will realize the futility of making everyone equal and the INSANITY associated with liberal/socialism who will rebel.

        • Worried Vet

          Your right but I hope your wrong. I hope the young people are smart enough to put down their phones, gameboys and laptops and see the truth. If just half of them do Trump will win and we have a shot of cleaning up some of this mess the liberals have caused.

          • regulus30

            I know what we can do;; let’s make the 2016 election about Pogey-man.

        • I Seigel

          Socialism – like the kind they have in Denmark, Sweden, Israel, Britain, France, Germany, Canada, and the United States? Oh, yeah, those countries are all failing miserably. Keep trying SFB – eventually you might get something right. A broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe you can match that?

          • regulus30

            absolutely, if you had been paying attention those nations are going bankrupt and are actually cutting to socialist benefits to survive;; idiots like you are not worth wasting breath on. “the coming insurrection” is failing, re; Brixit.[ you are too stupid to know what that means].

          • I Seigel

            Israel going bankrupt? Canada? Maybe you should let them know, because I don’t think they’ve gotten the memo.

            The problem with trying to get your ideology to fit in with the real world is that you just can’t do it!

          • savage

            he is not only stupid,but he is so stubborn,because he doesn’t want to understand what socialism means.he never lived it.

          • Worried Vet

            Those countries you named are not socialist government’s. Look them up and stop calling people names to deflect the truth. They have socialist policies, most countries do like welfare and social security. When their a totally socialist government they fail faster when a partial they fail all the same just at a slower pace. It’s not rocket science that you can only give away so much of other people’s money before those people are broke or leave the country. England tried to raise taxes to a huge rate and they lost revenue instead of taking in more. The wealthy left the country. It’s common sense, why would you work hard just to have the government steal from you so they can buy voters. I am a poor person very poor but I work for what I get. I don’t expect successful people to support me. That’s wrong on so many levels. If your able to work we need a hand up not a hand out. That’s what fixes poverty in the working class. It’s disgusting a political party works so hard to give hand outs to keep people dependant on the government.

          • I Seigel

            If there is a distinction between a socialist government and a government with socialist policies, it escapes me.

          • savage

            like I said,you must be drunk or high.or brainwashed in public schools.

          • I Seigel

            Oh, well you’ve convinced me with your impeccable logic. Of course you’re right. Did you and SFB drink from the same horse trough?

          • savage

            can’t you sleep?of course not,’cause you don’t have a job to go to in the morning.you’re federally assisted.

          • I Seigel

            I’ve learned how to manipulate the system for my benefit, just like your candidate that brags about his manipulations of tax and labor laws to make a profit. I hope you admire me for my ability to game the system, just as you bow down to his mastery of it.

            PS. I left work at 12:15am last night, and I have to be back at 8a. Go phuck yourself.

          • savage

            I’l pass your wish,and I’ll fuck my beautiful sexy wife.you can do what you said.

          • I Seigel

            Thanks. Yes, you go get yourself some of that. Seems a few of your neighbors also do. Just saying….

          • savage

            are you talking about your experience with neighbors?

          • I Seigel

            Nice try. Very lame.

          • savage

            this is exactly what the nazi SIEGEL can’t comprehend.

          • Worried Vet

            Well it’s a shame people don’t get it. These countries have socialist policies but they still have other policies. They are not totally socialist yet. Now that’s not saying they won’t become socialist. Our country is slowly but surely becoming socialist. If we don’t make changes fast these liberals will win. They have had to much power for way to long. Our hope now is these emails, voice mails coming out show what the democrats are all about. This should help Trump in Nov.

          • savage

            you must be drank or high on something.there’s no other explanation.

          • I Seigel

            That’s your argument that proves me wrong? Because you say so?!? You sound like that idiot Trump.

          • savage

            I like that!a lot.

          • regulus30

            google “nations socialist bankruptcy”;; Brazil, Portugal, Ireland U.K., Spain, South America, Italy, Poland, Greece, Australia, India, Japan, Indonesia, Germany. Then read this page; http://www.capX.co/socialism is a bankrupt ideology.

          • I Seigel

            Australia is not bankrupt. Neither is India, Japan, Germany, Ireland or the UK. Where do you get your silly “information”? CapX, a right-wing ideologue website? Geez, get a clue!!!

            Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece have fiscal problems routed in the 2007 recession that was caused by US banking greed. They are not bankrupt either.

            Brazil, “South America”, Indonesia, suffer from rampant corruption.

            You mistake the lack of open and transparent banking laws (and their enforcement) and standard accounting practices – GAAP – for the supposed failures of socialism. Use your Google and find out about these things, too.

            Here’s what’s on the “About Us” page of the CapX website, which explains their ideology:

            We believe that while global capitalism as an engine of human progress has been tainted by the financial crisis, it is more important than ever that the argument is made in defence of markets, innovation, competition and profit. They are what drive increased prosperity.

            Popular capitalism is not just about spreading opportunities for wealth creation. It includes nurturing a set of effective institutions that best allows political freedom, civil society and wider prosperity to flourish.
            CapX is grateful for the generous support of all our sponsors, including the Templeton Religion Trust and the Rising Tide Foundation. CapX is owned and produced by the Centre for Policy Studies in London. Please email us if you have any feedback.

          • regulus30

            go to the sight I gave you and and shut the phuck up. you incorrigible idiot.

        • savage

          you are really good!your background must be romanian or irish.

          • regulus30

            IRISH ; thank you.

      • regulus30

        a quote from “RONALD REAGAN” , who has been so right about so much [as was Margret Thatcher] regarding ‘SOCIALISM” ; ” the generation that gives up it’s freedom will never taste it again”.

        • I Seigel

          Oh! Actually quoting Ronald Reagan now, are you SFB? That “quote” comes from Benjamin Franklin, and you don’t even have the words correct. Obama and many other leaders have paraphrased it over the years.

          • regulus30

            your stupidity is breath taking ;; Ben Franklin was approached by a woman who asked; “have you given us”, Franklin replied;” a Constitutional Republic, if you can keep it”. as for the other drivel, you are ignorant. google it asshole.

          • I Seigel

            I don’t understand your reply, SFB. Are you saying that Ben Franklin said only one thing in his whole life worth quoting. Google it asshole, and you’ll see I’m right

          • regulus30

            you are so phucking dumb it is pitiful; I did not say Reagan was first to say anything, just repeated him;; you are a total phuck up.

          • I Seigel

            Oh, so if you were “quoting Reagan” you were also quoting Obama. He said the same thing. Not the first to say it, but he did say it. But I’ll bet you didn’t know that, nor did you intend to quote him.

          • regulus30

            obam? never happened, dream on.

          • regulus30

            the unfortunate thing about you is that you probably think you are intellectually clever;; knowledge cures ignorance ** stupid is terminal.

          • savage

            this is the best saying I’ve heard in 25 years of being a citizen of this country.

        • Worried Vet

          Well Margaret Thatcher said socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money. The point was made no matter if the quote was wrong. Socialism don’t work never has and never will, young people need to figure that out without subjecting other generations to stupidity.

          • Rodney Steward

            This is the group that the Gov. raised, the Millennial, and this is the bunch that they will control and lead around like cattle! The Lost Generations!

          • Worried Vet

            I have faith in young people that they are smarter than what the government taught them. Their are hope for the future and I believe they will wake up and see the truth.

          • Rodney Steward

            I hope you’re right, I can not believe how many wanted a socialist for a President, and none could even tell you what socialism was! How many will die before they wake up, and I know that this don’t apply to all the millennial group!

          • Worried Vet

            I have faith, I know a few who are smart enough not to be led around by the nose.

          • Rodney Steward

            I know some too, and some of them are in the military!

          • regulus30

            watch out I seigel is coming after you.

          • Worried Vet

            I don’t keep dealing with kool-aid drinking liberals that are brainwashed or to stupid to think on their own. I block them. You can’t debate the truth with these idiots they don’t know what debate means. The democrat party is full of members that don’t understand the meanings of debate and truth.

          • regulus30

            you must be kidding ; the dumocrap party is the party of tolerance and civil discourse;;NOT. THEY ARE FASCISTS not socialists and they are a mixture of ignorant, stupid, non-engaged, low info liberal zombies.

          • Worried Vet

            I agree, but they have drifted way from the old democrat party and started leaning more into socialism and fascism. I am afraid the old party is gone, they at least would debate and try to work together to find a solution. Now the party is all about deflection, lies, cheating, avoiding the truth, no debate so name calling, and spin. They have two sets of rules and the media goes along and protects liberals. There is no debate to find the truth unless it’s fits their agenda. Now their party has put in their platform to prosecute companies that don’t agree with global warming. To me that ignoring free speech. With their obsession for gun control and now free speech, what’s next? It scares me of what they will do next and get away with it if we don’t fight back

          • I Seigel

            How can you be both into socialism and fascism? They are almost polar opposites.

          • savage

            you are so fucked up! they are the same.google it!

          • I Seigel

            What Google are you using? The Google I’m using says socialism is a left -wing ideology, and fascism is a far right ideology. Tell me how I’m fucked up again, you savage beast you.

          • savage

            same shit. extreme left and extreme right. both come with 100% government control. do you know what NAZI stands for?
            and I apologogize for my french.

          • I Seigel

            Extreme left and extreme right are the same thing? Does that mean moderate left and moderate right are the same thing? Your illogic and lack of knowledge is truly astounding.

          • I Seigel

            Hey WV, if there was ANY effort here for a well-intentioned debate and truth, it would be great. But what I see is name-calling, insults, and lies at the first sign of dissent or disagreement here. Even among conservatives disagreeing with other conservatives! If you don’t toe the line, you’re dissed. That doesn’t sound like a group that welcomes debate and truth.

          • reggie

            LOL, it never gives up.

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