Supreme Court split on Obama amnesty

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April 19, 2016

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A deeply divided Supreme Court grappled Monday with President Obama’s deportation amnesty, as conservatives said the White House was encroaching on Congress‘ lawmaking powers, but liberal justices saying the court should stay out of the fight, leaving the president with a free hand.

Outside the courthouse, thousands of Hispanic rights activists rallied, shouting slogans in Spanish and English as they demanded leniency from the justices. The activists also vowed political retribution on Congress, particularly on Republicans, if Mr. Obama loses the case.

Things were much more sedate inside the courtroom, where attorneys sparred with the justices over the intricacies of immigration law and what Congress intended when it said illegal immigrants should be deported — but gave the president only enough money to kick out a small fraction.

Texas and 25 other states said it’s time for the high court to get involved, and they appeared to have allies among the four Republican-appointed justices, who questioned where Mr. Obama derived the power to grant tentative legal status.

  • mabera19

    Follow the Law. If that’s not your thing, Resign! Or be impeached…

    8 U.S. Code § 1182 – Inadmissible aliens _ US Law _ LII _ Legal Information Institute.mhtml

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

  • Michael Smith

    What the justices should rule is that the President like everyone else is obligated to follow current laws ,Not pick and choose which ones to follow .If he doesn’t like or agree with a current law he should lobby Congress to do away or change it .Even with Executive powers the President does not have the power to change or circumvent any current law. Every illegal currently in America is a criminal as they broke the law sneaking into America and should be deported no matter how sad their story is . We have immigration laws for a reason ,One of which is to control keeping criminals and other undesirables out . Giving illegals blanket amnesty does not do that . Anyone want to raise their hand and say they’d want say a child rapist or a cartel drug dealer moving in next door from say south of our border who is there because they weren’t checked out and given blanket amnesty ? I didn’t think so !

    • Eleanor Cummings

      Obama’s ‘dead pool’ nachumlist”. OMG

  • HENRI

    I AM A LATINO AND BOTH OF MY PARENTS WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS MOTHER IN AZ. DAD IN CA. AND ME IN CA. AND I SAY TO ANY ILLIGAL YOU MUST GO BACK AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT TO BAD AND JUST DEPORT THEM ALL ILLEGAL PEOPLE AND IF YOU JUST CAME HERE TO DROP A LOAD A CHILD THEY GO BACK WITH YOU ALSO

    • sue lenhart

      Amen! I appreciate that you are a law-abiding, American citizen who is not afraid to say so. Your message is not popular, but you have the courage to say it, anyway. Don’t let anyone bully you out of your courage, Henri — keep standing for what is right!

  • Tom

    If you are in this Country illegally, you know who you are, either man-up and leave or don’t bitch when we catch you. IF I have to look for you, you WILL be hurting when they get you back home in Mexico or where ever you came from. You will also have a bill for your capture and return that must be paid in 30 days, or ‘your’ country gets ZERO foriegn aid until it is. That easy and that simple.

  • yzwisey

    It’s high time to appoint a CONSERVATIVE justice whom believes in our founding documents, not reinterpreting them. Deny oboma the opportunity of stacking the the court against the Constitution. Illegals should have come into the country legally and pay taxes instead of sending monies back to Mexico.

    • Tom

      Find the ones illegally here and send them to their home country with a tattoo indicating they can NEVER return to the United States. Violating the law the second time = DEATH.

      • Patricia

        You have some good soultions 😉

  • snowyriver

    My my my isn’t it convenient that justice Scalia just died naturally (only hours after meeting with obama) and now this comes up and we have a split decision? How many people have died naturally when what they would say next would hurt obama??

    • ehutch

      His heart condition and diabetes probably had nothing to do with it. If you have evidence of murder say so.

      • snowyriver

        “Evidence” a court of law can be to many coincidences. Read “Obama ‘dead pool’ nachumlist”

        • Eleanor Cummings

          OMG

          • snowyriver

            Lots of “coincidences” do you think?

      • grumpyolman

        Awfully convenient that an autopsy, which would be almost automatic in most cases, especially for a high profile person, was never performed.

    • HENRI

      I THINK THAT HE WAS MURDERED BY ORDERS FROM OBAMA THEY NEVER GOT ALONG ANY WAYS OBAMA HAD IT DONE TO THROW OFF THE BALANCE IN THEIR FAVOR IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE OLD LADY BUT THAT WOULDN’T BALANCE TO THEIR FAVOR SO IF ANY ONE SHOULD IT SHOULD BE SOME ONE THAY OBAMA DIDN’T LIKE AND HE WANTED TO DO IT BEFORE HE LEFT OFFICE THAT IS WHAT I THINK REMEMBER FREEDOM OF SPEACH THAT IS MY RIGHT IN THE U S A

      • snowyriver

        Read “Obama’s ‘dead pool’ nachumlist”.
        Just look it up on Google.
        How many coincidences does it take to make a man guilty?

  • sue lenhart

    This statement by the liberal justices is just another example of why no justice should be given a lifetime appointment to any court. They should have term limits, just like our President and Congressional representatives do. Oh, and voting them into office instead of appointing them shouldn’t be taken off of the table, either . . .

    • ehutch

      Term limits for the senate and house? Re-election yes, but there are no term limits. And the silliest thing is that the longer one is in office the likelihood of re-election increases.

      • Tom

        Well ehutch stop being stupid and VOTE. Vote the fools you don’t like out. OR are you too lazy to do that?

        • ehutch

          I like my guys and I can’t vote the guys I don’t like out of office because I don’t live in their districts and guys like you keep electing them.

    • HENRI

      I THINK THAT 4 YEARS IS ALL IT SHOULD BE MAXIMUM JUST LIKE A PRESIDENTS TERM BUT HELL FOR LIFE GET REAL NO NO NO NO

    • Rattlerjake

      There should be form with 100 questions about the Constitution, or constitutional cases that they should have to answer, to verify that they understand the Constitution and have at least read it. The questions should be asked of them verbally and their answers video and audio recorded.

  • Glenn

    Congressional Representatives have place legal papers to solve our President’s over reach. Congress should do its job as with the separation of powers.. Legal directions will take years to even bring up and take to court. The third power, the Supreme Court should be actively ruling on all these laws created by Congress to be Constitutional. IF NOT, send them back to Congress to correct.

  • J.B. Young

    These 4 liberal judges apparently have never read the Constitution. Therefore, they should be impeached for their stupidity.

    • yzwisey

      Hear, hear. I second that motion.

    • Rattlerjake

      If you have read the several articles about this case, Sotomayor was “arguing” the case with one of the presenters. This just shows that she has NO CLUE what the job of the SCOTUS is! The SCOTUS is only supposed to HEAR the case, not argue for or against. They can ask questions, but are NOT supposed to have an opinion or express that opinion during the presentation. Their job is to hear the presentation, then using the Constitution and law, make an UN-OPINIONATED decision based only on the facts. She has violated her duties in office and over-reached her authority. There is NO chance that the current SCOTUS can make a proper decision on ANY subject!!!!

  • justinwachin

    The constitutional issue seems to be whether the president has the ability to govern by executive order when working through Congress, as specified in the Constitution, doesn’t produce the desired results. Maybe the question the liberal justices and the Obama administration lawyers should consider is whether they want President Trump to have the same ability to govern by executive order and be able to avoid Congress.

    The Obama administration sidestepped Congress on immigration law because Congress wasn’t inclined to change the existing law to suit Mr. Obama.This really should be an 8-0 ruling in favor of the states. I can’t believe justices Ginsberg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan want to give unlimited executive order powers to conservative, pro life presidents.

    • snowyriver

      Our Constitution says that all laws for this nation start in the House of Representatives.. NOT the presidents office.. The president’s job is to see that all laws are followed equally for all the people.

      • ehutch

        No so. All laws that generate tax revenues start in the House. Other legislation can start in the Senate. It is very common for a president to set out a legislative agenda, it is also common for both houses to ignore it.

        • defender2

          Called separation of powers, but when one starts to abuse it like Obama you have to worry.

          • Tom

            Just eliminate the abuser.

      • Tom

        Teriffic, snowyriver, why don’t you write the stoopid POS a letter and explain it to him? Do you think he would listen to you? No, a single voice in the wilderness is lost. However, if, I say IF 2 Million of us showed up in DC overnight and marched into the White House and smacked the bitch a few times it would straighten his shit right out and things will change immediately. The POS pussy may even resign.

        • snowyriver

          I have written to both Senators and my House Rep. All I get in replies is political garbage.

      • Eleanor Cummings

        UH, HUH! NOW READ THIS!!!

        Obama’s ‘dead pool’ nachumlist”.

        • snowyriver

          Did I post that wrong.. It should have said copy and paste this in your browser..very eye opening… many coincidences.

    • Tom

      What? And leave their godless ruler out in the cold? The weasels are too afraid to do anything like that. That is why they should be limited to 2 years, can’t screw up too many things if you don’t have the time.

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