GOP to Trump: Fire somebody

by Scott Wong and Cristina Marcos | The Hill  |  published on July 19, 2016


CLEVELAND—The Donald Trump campaign should take action against whoever is responsible for the similarities between Melania Trump’s address at the GOP convention and Michelle Obama’s convention speech in 2008, some Republicans gathered here said Tuesday.

Trump’s ex-campaign manager Corey Lewandowski on CNN called for his one-time rival Paul Manafort to resign if he was the last person to sign off on Mrs. Trump’s primetime speech. Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said the speechwriter should probably be fired.

And Trump’s presidential rival-turned-surrogate Ben Carson said the author of the speech should have to undergo some kind of media training.
Trump allies have said the plagiarism allegations are much ado about nothing.

But the growing controversy has marred what initially had been a well-received speech from Melania Trump, who until Monday night had largely limited her appearances on the campaign trail.

  • Larry

    This is another Hillorat attack. The traitors reported are just that, people who have become children who are cry baby sore losers. The idiots who will support a criminal are far from the type of people I want running our Great Country. Try to grow up and act like real Americans, not losers who have nearly destroyed our country.

  • madeuce42

    the Media has no right to criticize anyone They spread lies instead of the TRUTH, I wouldn’t believe the Mainstain Media i they said the sun rises in the East

  • Scott Campbell

    No one can write a speech without copying something someone else said. It is impossible. If one was to try to write a speech which did not copy someone else they could not use any words in the English language ( or any other language for that matter). The baboon used a copy righted phrase in her speech.

  • Bay0Wulf

    The desperation of the Left/Dems is palpable.

    First, I’ve heard versions of this most of my life.
    Second, Out of 1400 words they picked a dozen or so.
    Third, Does anybody actually believe that Melania actually wrote this entire speech? I believe she set the tone but …
    Fourth, Have you ever heard a jingle, a tune, a saying that simply stayed with you? Sooner or later you forget that there was ever an “Original Source”.
    Fifth, I Guarantee that Michelle is by no means the first person to use this phrase
    Sixth, Well, its perhaps unfortunate that this is what will make her name a “Household Name” but soon the reason will fade but the name recognition will remain.

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  • Just1Saddletramp

    Someone needs to find out what plagiarism is before making a fool of themselves by calling another a plagiarist. Plagiarism is passing some other persons’ work or ideas off as your own. Melania Trump never made any such attempt. Comparisons as she espoused are not plagiarism

  • Patriot41

    One doubts that Michelle Obama came from the same country that Melania did. One further doubts that she was a model or was married to Donald Trump. That was the basic text of the speech that Melania spoke of in her speech, so one finds it very difficult to find that her speech was plagiarized. That is all liberal bias hogwash, from the grunting liberal hogs in the media.

  • grmetalman

    Trump can fire his speech writer if the country would fire Obama, Michelle and Hilary first

  • jmac67

    Of all the things said last night the only complaints are about a wife’s speech about her husband. I guess all the things said about Hilary and Obama must have been true. because the Dems didn’t say a word about that.

  • Henry J. Gilbertson

    I would like to know who the races bastard is that said she plagerized? That god dam banana eatting vine swing baboon obung hole plagerized it from someone else

  • American Me

    So now if someone says something in a speech,no body is ever allowed to say that again in a speech??Come on that’s ridiculous.I enjoyed Melania’s speech and I didn’t ever hear Michelle’s,since I’m not a democrat.Melania would make a stunning First Lady.It probably was a set up by the take Trump down people anyway.This is a non issue in my house.TRUMP for POTUS 2016……

  • ADRoberts

    Anyone with a brain out there? How long after her speech did they come up with the comparative videos? Got that? This was not only set up by the ones who wrote her speech, but they were the ones who went straight to the media so they would be ready for the GREAT REVEAL.
    LOL
    And Trump chooses GOOD people. LOL

  • Shelly Shannon

    Yes, I will see if I can find the exact one for you. I heard this on the news that Michelle copied that speech so I’ll look and see if I can find it for you.

  • ADRoberts

    I certainly don’t like Obama or Clinton. But this is just more proof that Trump does not pick good people for his machine. He is NOT capable to do what you all want. TO SAVE AMERICA.

  • Holland180

    Hey! No Big Deal! So what if it sounded like someone else. There is no patent on what she said! Go Trump…….send him a donation if you believe he can make America great again. I do, I will, I did.

  • justinwachin

    Someone wrote the speech. Their plagiarism should be addressed. Although imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I’m going to guess that Michelle Obama would have preferred to be flattered by a Democrat.

    For the Democrats the plagiarism was an unexpected blessing. It allowed the media to focus on something other than some of the charges made by Monday night’s speakers. I would like to have seen the woman who lost her son in the Benghazi attack get more media coverage. If I had to choose one speech from the Monday night session to broadcast that would have been the speech.

  • Neil Tuttle

    who cares, she can use any speech she wants. piss on the trannie.moochell

  • GATORLAND

    I am sure you noticed that the press did not have a comment regarding Chief Davis, Mayor Rudy, LT. Gen Flynn’s, or Mrs. Smith speech. They addressed the problems facing this country head on, and did not use dictated PC rhetoric. . By the way when Biden and Obama plagiarized where was the “got you” from the press? I thought wives and children of nominees were off limits or only the democrat spouses and children? Enough to do about NOTHING regarding Mrs. Trump excellent speech. The Dems probably saw votes going towards Mr. Trump after her excellent delivery and poise.

  • Teserra

    Should we expect anything less from the Hilary Clinton Camp of Liars, filled with old decrepit members too old to hold office? You can not trademark general words. Dems need to get over their jealousy. They are stuck with the dumb blonde mentality of their leader.

  • Barrustio

    She should have just been impromtu…mistakes are better and more genuine than rehearsed speeches. However perhaps it’s time to consider that a liberal mole got up close and personal with some of the most important duties of keeping Melania untouchable…and so it starts.

  • dee money

    gee whiz. how many thousands of times those very words have been spoken by parents to their children.GIVE ME A BREAK.

  • Joe H

    The libtards are losing the few brain cells they have by spending so much time salivating over very common statements in every day life! They can’t spend any time gloating over the Clinton criminal. The Libtards have zero substance but all mouth.

  • Owen Grant

    Big deal. What else you got?

  • James Mathis

    You put your finger on it. The New World Order’s globalist socialist industrial banker elites are shaking in their boots calculating the damage that could be done by Mrs Trump if the public got more exposure to her. Like the Japanese most often did in the defense of Islands, and the Germans hoped to do on D-Day, the enemy must be destroyed on the beach, not allowed to advance, gain confidence and experience…. So they hit Mrs Trump with their heaviest weapon. Besmirch her! Besmirch her! How to besmirch her? They don’t have anything on her so they hit her with being a copy cat. Oh my! Well, if you can think about scaring the good queen back into Ivory Tower, consider that you may have only wakened a sleeping Catherine the Great and filled hefr with a terrible resolve. heh heh heh. Dumbos. All you had to say on the subject if you must have is, “Michelle is complimented that Mellania thinks as she and would use her words.” Point made, Michelle comes off as classy as Mellania. But LWBDZs don’t think that way. They live in the pissy.

    • bobnstuff

      You do know she was raised a communist. Her father was a party member. The Republicans keep saying the the Democrats are communist but she is the real thing. It’s going to be the Republicans that try to get the first real communist in the White House.

      • James Mathis

        Are you suggesting that Trump is a communist? How so?

        • bobnstuff

          Not Trump but his wife, She is from a communist country, was one just before she left. Her family were communists, she went to a communist school. Face it she was raised to be a communist.

          • James Mathis

            Most people who were under the communist thumb will prefer America. She will be more a bulwark against communism. She seems happily married to a capitalist. Do you think she is Secret Agent?

          • bobnstuff

            People raised in communist countries have a way of thinking that is different then ours. My ex son in law is Russian and very well educated but he never understood why we do the things we do. Her father was a party member so she was shielded from the worst of down side of communism. The good thing is if she does become first lady she will have people to protect her. Unlike the last few first ladies who are very well educated not much will be expected of her except looking good, she can do that.

          • James Mathis

            Well, I was born and raised a Catholic and I have a hard time understanding why we do the things we do. I think you are short changing Mrs Trump. Just because she was a model, she shouldn’t be considered stupid. She speaks 5 or was it 7 languages. Her mind must be sufficient to be married to Mr Trump who is quite bright. And I care not whether she has college degrees. College, in my opinion actually makes people stupid., even more susceptible to buying ballyhooo politics. Look at the last two goofs we’ve had in the Oval Office and their wives. Real goofy gals, actually, both of them muff divers, one a screeching gorilla and the other a very wicked witch. Both very well educated and in solid with a crowd. I expect great things from Mellenia. To be a classy first lady, not nasty men in a woman’s body.

  • John Siemens

    Yes indeed, while a speech writer may have set Melania up for this, I think we should first investigate who Michelle Obama plagiarized? It is not plagiarism if it is being used in multiple places.

  • Richard Bagenstose

    well they missed the point , when moochelle gave the speech , it was a cold hearted made up lie ,like ofreako does all the time , who knows maybe melania was specking from the heart , we know the obomas have no morals, it all about them

    • Wendy Baughman

      PERFECT you hit the nail on the head, Michael hates Americans just like Barry rip off artist now playing Killary like a fiddle

  • JimMay

    I must be a racist get that nigger out of the WHITE house. Wait i can’t be a racist i am BLACK.

    • Wendy Baughman

      Good one

  • Patriot47

    Gee. I didn’t know Mikey Oblamma was the first to ever talk about family values much less own a patent on the words.

  • dmttbt

    The GOP needs to realize that the only reason they have anybody is because they have Trump. Why would anyone want to steal something said by Michelle 8 years ago? Michelle is an educated under achiever. They don’t write their own speeches and usually neither doe the candidates.

  • Bob

    Realistically it wouldn’t have mattered what Melania had said. The news media already had their marching orders to trash her about something. If it hadn’t been that, it would have been something else. At least she didn’t lie about anything like “You can keep your doctors if you like them”. There was no media frenzie about that speech.

    • Barrustio

      When Hillary lied…people died.

  • jandjnesbitt@aol.com

    NEVER HILLARY !!!

  • retired4ever

    What in God’s name is wrong with using the same words and phrases used by every politicians spouse? Michele coined those phrases so nobody else can use them? Wow and she’s such a good speaker. I’m not surprised the media came up with this but I am surprised that Hemmer on Fox perpetuated it. He even sounded like a commentator instead of a reporter.

    • jandjnesbitt@aol.com

      Hemmer is one of the reasons I stopped watching Fox. He is clearly a Libtard plant. I refuse to watch his portion of the show… He should work for CNN or MSNBC with his views…What the hell is he doing on Fox???

    • Barrustio

      The most honest thing she ever said in a speech was…”For the first time in my like, I am proud of America”. It took her over 40 years to develop a pride for America only because her husband was elected.

  • GATORLAND

    You know the Liberal Motto if there is nothing there, makeup something that is there and keep repeating, repeating until you believe there is a there, there. If the only negative they could find was tearing down and attempting to sully the FIRST LADY TO BE excellent presentation they are DESPERATE. Just keep repeating they are desperate, Hillary will not win, they are desperate etc. And there is your there. One thing about Political Speeches if you really believe what you are saying you cannot fool very many people and they will be able to tell if you are pandering or a phony. Anytime Obama, Clinton, Kerry open their mouth I change the channel.

  • Richard

    “what difference does it make”
    We have two traitors in the WH and the media sits on their a.. ….BRAINS !
    As well as the Republican establishment….I am very displeased with the Bush’s, Romney is a washout, McCain needs to retire, Cruz & Kasich needs to throw their support for TRUMP 2016 !!!

    • rockcut

      Trump will not win. Period.

      • Joe H

        I’m so glad you have your crystal ball available to “see” the outcome before it happens. Such a brilliant statement you made

        • bobnstuff

          Trump will not win, even if he comes close the system is against him. Our founding fathers set up protections from people like him. Sorry but the math is against him.

        • rockcut

          I based my statement on these facts: 1. Trump’s mouth 2. Women’s vote 3. Black vote 4. minority vote 5. Educated voters both Democrat and independents 6. Hillary’s better ground game in swing states.

          • Joe H

            You can list all you want but the votes haven’t been cast. Nice try though.

          • rockcut

            I gave you easy points to show you why I belief Trump will not win. I know the votes have not been cast. It is my educated opinion. I see you had no response to any of my points. Your try was weak.

      • Barrustio

        I know you and the deviates are praying he doesn’t…oh that’s right liberals don’t believe in God.

        • rockcut

          I am just an American citizen who has an opinion. Yes, as a Christian I am praying to the Lord that Trump will never be president. I guess you learned a new word deviates and had to use it in your post LOL

          • Barrustio

            Actually I’ve known about the deviates for a long time…they now flaunt their aberration and mock the Lord, thank to Barry.

      • used_to_be_a_liberal

        he has already won

        • rockcut

          Now you are a comic. Thanks for a big laugh with that he as already won.

    • bobnstuff

      Trump has spent the last year calling these people every name in the book, why would they support him. They would be fools to support him.

      • Richard

        So they do NOT care about the American people but only themselves? If they do not support the Republican Party and or not voting they are for Hillary & the Dumocrats, ooops sorry I meant the Socialist Party !

        • bobnstuff

          No, They don’t think a man who attacks his fellow republicans with name calling should be president. They have seen how he does things and how he acts. Hillary is more of a republican then Trump, so is Obama. The dump Trump people are supporting their party, they are working to get the down tickets republicans , the real republicans, elected. I’m a life long republican, I have worked for the party and held office in the party. I haven’t liked the candidates for president the last three times. Bush should have never been re-elected. People say they like Trump because he’s a businessman but the largest business group in the country doesn’t support him. They know he’s bad for the country and bad for business. The college he went to, a very conservative one is running away from him. Why is it that the people who have real knowledge don’t support him.

          • granvillea

            Right, After they ran 10’s of millions of dollars of negative campaign ads, Donald told the truth about them, but he is the bad guy.

          • bobnstuff

            Where have you been for the last year? Trump has bullied, name called, attack people because of their looks. He made up things about them. Here’s the thing, no one who understands how things work supports him. His followers are the ones that also blame Obama for destroying the country. Did you know that the president can’t spend a dine without getting it from congress, he can’t pass or repeal a law. Trump seems to believe that the president passes laws.

            It’s all most like he has tried to make people hate him. He wants his followers to prove they will love him no matter what.

            The leaders of other countries don’t respect him and he will never lead them. So much for being the leader of the free world.

            You say he told the truth about them. what truth? In this case he is just a bad little boy jumping up and down saying look at me. I;m not a big fan of Obama although under his leadership I have done very well. My 401K is doing very well. Hillary would not be my first choice but at least she has plans with details unlike Trump, Go look at Trumps web sight, there is very little there. What is their is mostly the same old stuff that either hasn’t worked or is what we are doing right now.

  • Elwood Ballard

    Nobody would copy off the “Moocher’s” speech. Do people think that the English language is the property of “The Moocher”? No one else can use the words because “The Moocher” used some of those words? Only someone totally ignorant would follow anything “The Moocher” would have to say !!

    • bobnstuff

      In this case it is her property, by law.

      • granvillea

        BS – it is neither her words nor does she have any rights to them, these are simply typical political platitudes, in one case (Melania’s) said by someone who actually believes them and in the other said by someone who would say anything to achieve her ends and who never believed any of it.

        She had no “property” and certainly not “by law”. What alternate universe do you live in and how desperate you must be to criticize someone for using typical political rhetoric used by dozens if not thousands of politicians and ordinary people over at least decades. Your desperation is showing as Hilary Clinton is exposed over and over again for the criminal, congenital liar and basically a person who has simply been wrong on every issue her entire life and whose only rationale for her candidacy is that she is a woman and one that has harmed women her entire life and career. Talk about Misogyny.

        • bobnstuff

          Go read what the laws on plagiarism are, I have given links. Had she turn her speech in for a grade in college she would have gotten a F on it. Did you know that there is a computer app for doing plagiarism checks. There is one but no one in the Trump camp knows about it. Trump needs to get some of those great people he talks about to work on his campaign. What Clinton is or isn’t makes no difference here. It’s Trumps campaign that has screwed up once again. If he can;t run a campaign how is he going to run the country?I think I will vote for Johnson, at least he has a clue.

  • William Holk

    Absolutely little to do about nothing. Why had the media never asked why Bill Clinton was not impeached for his despicable acts while governor in Arkansas and the oval office? Bring up and ask why Hillary is not indicted for lying to the FBI or locked up and putting our nation at risks? Also lying to the families who’s loved were killed in Benghazi for not bringing in support to protect them? The lists goes on and on and nothing has been done about it.

  • Donna Morken

    GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can’t believe people are making such a to do over using 3 phrases that are as common as an old shoe. All it is that the hillarious people are trying as hard as they can to fnd something wrong. Let us all watch the demo convention and see how much we can see wrong that the liberal news media won’t mention.

    • rockcut

      Should we get over she lied about having a degree when she dropped out the first year of college.

      • dmttbt

        If you are talking about Mrs Trump , please tell me what office she is running for. I am sure you are going to vote against her, let me now where that takes place!

        • rockcut

          The whole situation shows how fake the Trump run is to me. Some fact checkers need fired.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            you are a bigot

          • rockcut

            Your same claim over and over means nothing without fact. But continue to post the same thing over and over.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            you are just a racist, bigoted left-wit, and taking a page from your book, “How To Be A Left-Wit” I don’t need any facts. Why confuse the issue with facts. You are what you are, and that is all you ever will be.

          • rockcut

            You are blowing hot air with no substance. Keep it child.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            now you are being a bigot.

          • rockcut

            No. I am not..,,I am just giving you some adult feedback.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            yes, you are a bigot, you don’t like children

          • rockcut

            Where did you come up with that lie that I don’t like children? Are you losing your mind. This is right up there as one of your most ignorant remarks.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            now you are making accusations that you do not have a clue about.
            See, that is how the left-wit mind works, specifically yours.

          • rockcut

            My reply was to your charge I do not like children. Or, did you forget so my charge is right on the money. The problem is I do have a clue and your meaningless silly charges will not fly.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            Good, now you have finally got it. Now simply take everything you wrote and apply it to what comes out of the mouths of democrats, and left-wit media.

          • rockcut

            You are way off the grid of reality and each post proves it to me.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            Really?? So tell me, who is off the grid;

            Two major polls released this week show the overwhelming majority of Americans think the nation is headed in the wrong direction, a bad sign for Democrats as they prepare for their party convention in Philadelphia next week.

            A new McClatchy-Marist poll says, “Americans who are worried about the economy, political gridlock and terrorism think the country is going in the wrong by a rate of 70 to 25.”

            Yesterday’s Rasmussen Reports said only 21 percent of likely voters think the nation is headed in the right direction, down five points from the previous week and the lowest since October 2013. For Democrats, an alarming 72 percent “now believe the nation is headed down the wrong track,” Rasmussen said.

            In another revealing survey that cannot be good news for Democrats, 60 percent of likely voters think race relations have worsened since Barack Obama took office almost eight years ago. And Rasmussen said that translates to an 18-point jump since last 2014.

            Only nine percent of the Rasmussen respondents think race relations have improved, and 28 percent think they have remained the same.

            Still, the McClatchy-Marist poll and Rasmussen survey both say slightly more than half of Americans think the president is doing a good job.

            One other thing Rasmussen discovered in its surveys over the past few days is that Republicans favor laws that allow Americans to carry firearms in public, with 54 percent of identified Republicans supporting “open carry” laws. While 39 percent of Republicans supported the request that Ohio Gov. John Kasich suspend the state’s open carry law – which he cannot legally do and he said so – 43 percent oppose that idea and 18 percent weren’t sure.

            As reported earlier, Republicans have adopted a strong Second Amendment plank as part of their platform.

      • mtmountainman

        not graduating from a Communist Indoctrination Center aka college is a BIG PLUS.

        • rockcut

          Well, all I can say is do not lie about it.

      • Barrustio

        If you can get over Hillary being responsible for four dead Americans in Benghazi alone (not including the rest of the body count) then you can get over anything.

        • bobnstuff

          Funny thing after eight sets of hearings they still can’t hang it on her. Either She isn’t at fault or the Republicans are really bad at their jobs and should be fired. You tell me which.

          • Barrustio

            Perhaps it’s neither…could be that they were too good at their job and Comey didn’t want to end up with a barbell on his throat and add to the body count.

          • bobnstuff

            So What about Mr. Star? There have been a very long string of republicans trying to get the Clinton’s and all have come up empty. They must be the smartest people on earth. You don’t think that all these scandals are made up do you.

          • Barrustio

            I’m merely saying that if I was lucky enough to have that many witnesses die before they could get the dirt on me….I would play lottery

        • rockcut

          As a retired military person, I find it offensive to use dead Americans for a political point and even worst is to make a lie out of it… Grow up !

          • Barrustio

            As a two tour Vietnam vet I find it offensive that you would think that giving consideration to dead Americans which was obviously due to ineptitude is being done to score political points and a taboo subject when vetting a candidate for President

      • Larry

        You are obviously a part of what is wrong in the US. You are hell bent on finding anything wrong with anyone but the Dems. Hillary has a trail of scandal going back 30 years. Lie after lie, even under oath. The idea of supporting a person strictly to follow party lines is the dumbest thing a person could do. Is Trump perfect? Hell no! But he is not a bought and paid for life long politician. Clinton has more crooked “favors” she owes than you will ever imagine. Yet you concern yourself with a college degree? Go find another site to post your lame-assed point of view.

        • rockcut

          I was showing you that Trump and wife are not perfect and they are putting on a reality show and selling snake oil and I see a lot of people buying cases of it. Is Hillary perfect, hell no, is she more stable that Trump, hell yes. The choices are bad, I would not try to hide that at all. In the end one has to pick the lesser of two evils and now I think Trump is the greater evil.

          • Larry

            Selling snake oil? He says what should be said but everyone is afraid to say it. Hillary stable? Not by a long shot! The Clinton’s wake of lies and corruption has been going on for decades. Trump wants America to be great again. Respected in the eyes of the world. We have become a joke to too many around the world. Hillary has been a large part of that. The deaths attributed to her, the emails, the favors to countless people and countries. If you want to call it insider trading for her son-in-law. You and I would go to jail but she gets away with it all. Corruption at it’s grandest. Even 4 years of Hillary and we may as well kiss life as we have known it good by. More trampling of the Constitution. Ever read what the Secret Service has to say about her? Ever seen the list of scandals in her past? Do you know why she got off from Comey and Lynch? Hillary is by far the greatest threat to this country between the two!

  • NYC

    Melania did a wonderful job of speaking of her husbands’ ability to run the oval office and no one is casting aspirtions against her. However, who is the dimwit that plagarized Michelle Obama’s speech knowing that the opposition (the democrats) would be listening to every word to catch them up on something! This guy should be fired because he is not trustworthy and probably would do it again and who knows what he put in Donalds’ speech that might cause him embarassment and make him look bad. If he’s that lazy than he doesn’t belong in the Trump employment.

  • Betty

    may be alike but both present ideas I have hear all 81 yrs of my life.

  • NYC

    Melania did a wonderful job and no one is casting any accusations her way but really…whoever wrote that speech had to have known that he was using Michelle Obama’s speech from 2008. He should be fired on the spot because ;I wouldn’t trust him to write a speech for anyone if he’s that lazy and has to plagiarize someone else’s words ; especially the present presidents’ wifes’ speech! How foolish for him to even consider that no one would catch onto that. The democrats are hanging on every word to throw back at Trump…he didn’t need this added agravation.

  • Skip V.

    Her speech should not be a negative, Focus on what Hillary has done and what she hasn’t done that she should have as well as what Obama has done to our country, and that Hillary has said she will carry it on if elected!!

    • rockcut

      I, for one think Obama has done a decent job considering all the obstruction from the GOP.

      • Ron

        You think that because your brain has been destroyed many years ago. They call it: brainwashing.

        • rockcut

          Are you in grade school? Brain washing, come on man you can do better than something so silly .

          • Ron

            Nope. I am 78 years old. Served in the US Army over 23 years. Ranger recon combat Vietnam. Army Counterintelligence after Vietnam. On loan to the Federal gov as an investigator. Been around a little and I can see from your comments that you do not know what brainwashing really is. Some idiot convinced you to be an idiot. I also wrote and had published 8 books.

          • rockcut

            Sorry, I only served 22 years in the USAF intelligence. But, I do find your brainwashing comment amusing. And, when you revert to name calling (idiot) you really do not have much to say !

          • Barrustio

            Just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean it’s not so.

      • dmttbt

        Yes that is right give obama an excuse for f cking up everything he comes close to. You have proven that you are an idiot just by writing such bull s it.

        • rockcut

          I gave my opinion and you respond with swear words. When you have to use such low gutter words than you do not have much to say so live with it.

      • Ah nutz

        ooooooooooooooo chit=idiot of the century=rockcut.

        • rockcut

          When your response is a middle school insult, it means to me you have nothing to say at all.

          • Ah nutz

            actually your obviously too lame for anyone to respond to(I was sorry for ya’ no-one else had anything to say to you.) can’t fix stupid.

          • rockcut

            yes, I know and your post confirms you have nothing to say. Such a weak reply.

      • Skip V.

        I respect people of both parties who are allowed to have their own theologies and opinions . But if we look at the facts only, and forget personalities, anyone who considers all of the facts of the current administration and what it has done to our country and our citizens, it would be impossible to think they have not been the worst in history-facts only. We are Americans, not Republicans or Democrats. We need to restore our citizen’s personal freedoms and overcome the huge problems facing our country now. We need someone in the Presidency who will be everyone’s President and will try all citizens the same, regardless of their race, gender, financial status, sexual preferences, religions or political party preferences. This administration has done all it can to divide our country’s citizens.

        • rockcut

          I appreciate the sincere reply from you. However, I have problems with some things you said. The first one you say consider only facts and then you list not facts but give me an opinion that the current administration has done what to our citizens? No examples at all just an opinion void of facts. Then you mention restore our citizen’s personal freedoms. I do not know about you, but I have not lost any freedoms under the current administration. You end what we need in a president and your thoughts are on target but for me I do not see Trump being that person.

          • Skip V.

            Hi, no problem if you do not see Donald Trump being “that person”. To reply to your post, I did not mention facts because anyone paying attention knows what they are and I didn’t want to take up space. Quickly, consider our national debt, our immigration executive order of an open border which is not only hurting our job availabilities and economy but is putting our people in great danger of terrorism. Then his “agreement” with Iran that not only is taking a huge amount of our money but is considered to be allowing the to become a nuclear country-. Lastly, many things have been said and done to diminish Christian beliefs and freedoms. In short, our economy, foreign policy, immigration, a lack of action against the terrorists, a lack of support for our allies like Israel and dividing of our people by gender, religion, race and financial standing.

          • rockcut

            My reply on the debt is would a GOP President not also have a debt? I do not know what you consider open borders. Obama has deported far more that Bush and his executive order has nothing to do with open borders. It had to do with not going after families that have had children in our schools since early age but to focus on other elements of illegals. I think the agreement with Iran was the right move. The iran deal did not take any of our money. I am a life long Christian and I see no diminishing of Christian freedom (evangel. myth). Lack of actions against terrorists? What do you want another ground war, I sure do not want it. We support all out allies. Another fake myth. Ask yourself who divides I say it is the GOP. That is my belief.

      • Joe H

        You’ve got to be kidding. The Republicans have been giving everything Oblamer wants and more! Have you not paid attention to the spending bills Oblamer has been signing? That’s just the tip of the iceberg….and you conviniently don’t care to know.

        • bobnstuff

          You say the Republicans are spineless. They have given Obama everything he asked for. There is only one problem here. It’s not true. He asked for money to deal with the border problem and got nothing, he asked for immigration reform but it didn’t happen. He ask to keep terrorists from buying guns and didn’t get it. In fact if he comes out in support of a republican bill they will vote against their own bills so he can’t get what he wants. Those spending bills he has been signing were written by the republicans, his budgets are always DOA. Now if you want to talk about taking our freedoms look no farther then the Patriot Act.
          http://rense.com/general94/patr.htm

          • Joe H

            Bob, spoken like a die in the wool Liberal. Oblamer’s border policy is to have no border at all. It’s been quite evident by the hundreds of foreigners who enter the US unabated each day. He attacks any republican who wants to seal it. Those Republicans are few these days. There are numerous laws on the books now to keep guns out of the wrong hands. Yet, Oblamer’s intent is to remove guns from everyone. Plain and simple. Apparently you’ve missed the Omnibus bills Oblamer has signed. I think you should dig a little deeper.

          • bobnstuff

            You are a little light on your fact, He supported a bill that a big part of it was closing our borders, the Republicans in the house wouldn’t even look at it. He increased the number of border agents and asked for help from the congress but in typical republican style they went on vacation and never passed the bill. The republicans don’t want to close the borders. You know how I know that? They have controlled both the house and the senate for a year and have passed no bills to close them or fix the immigration laws. Those laws are very weak. The republicans make noise but really like thing just like they are. Actions speak louder then words. I guess you missed the fact that Obama can only sign bills passed by congress which is run by the Republicans. Also if Obama intends to take every ones guns he had better get started since he is only in office for 6 more months. To date he hasn’t taken one gun.

      • Barrustio

        If a failing Obamacare system, deviant marriage, destruction of religious liberties, bullying nuns, destabilizing race relations, hating on law enforcement, making deals with Iran, Cuba (who’s next N. Korea?) bringing in people who want to kill us and funding the biggest group of baby killers, is your idea of a “decent job”…I would hate to see you idea of a “good job”.

        • rockcut

          The ACA has let million the ability to have health care coverage. That is the right thing to do for our fellow Americans. The S. Court ruled on equal treatment for all citizens concerning marriage. It does not hurt my marriage of many many years. So Your view I guess All Americans should only have equal treatment if you agree with it . Sorry, it does not work that way. There is no destruction of religious liberties (myth). Nuns were not bully they were given a fair solution to their complaint. I have aunts that are nuns. The President does not hate law enforcement. That is a wild ugly false claim. I support the Iran deal and it is a good one It stops Iran making nukes for over 12 years. Cuba was the right move and will pay off in the long run. Your N. Korea is a silly comment and you know it. No government funding goes to abortions. The Hyde rule. There I have answered all of your points.

          • Barrustio

            There’s really no point in further conversation… Once you have swallowed the Obama koolaid there’s no going backwards

  • John Kiser

    We do not need “talking heads” taking our time pointing out presumed similarities that might exist between two speeches. It is clear that Melania Trump is VERY, VERY different from the Pretender in Chief’s spouse who only in the last few years found something to be proud about in terms of this nation. I found Mrs. Trump to be forthright and clear in her message. She loves her husband, her family, her children and this nation. She is clear about her objective to focus on women’s issues and the needs of children were she to become the First Lady. And she very clearly identified her concern with the current state of America and her belief in her husbands ability to cause improvement. It’s clear that the media pundits are trying to tee up ANYTHING they can to deflect scrutiny of Lying Hillary.

  • Sal Belardo

    Wow! Can you imagine that out of all the people who gave speeches that the Dems are harping on Melania’s speech! The question is, who did the racist Michele Obama copy. Lets start there!

    • rockcut

      How petty with your racist remark. It is disgusting how some of you think and blurt out such weak defense. How about her lying that she had and degree and dropped out the first year.

      • Ah nutz

        our nations worst racists are in the white house today.

        • rockcut

          You claiming that, puts you at the top of my list as a racist !

          • Roy

            Of course it does. You can’t help but project the inherent racism of liberal Demonrats on all who disagree with you. It’s compulsive with you folks.

          • Shelly Shannon

            So true. The other day he called me a racist liar because he had no explanation for a post I commented on.

          • rockcut

            I based my comments on what you said and not on your silly claim.

          • Scott Campbell

            If anyone is racist here it is you. The worst racists are the one who see racism in everything. People don’t need to hate oscumma because he’s black. They have billions of reasons to hate the orangutan.

          • rockcut

            You betray yourself with your own words. “Orangutan” …. That is straight out of racist. You are to easy. Get back to me if you can say anything that is close to an adult comment.

          • bobnstuff

            The Republicans took that job away from the Democrats. Now it’s the Republicans the good old boys are supporting along with our friends cat the KKK.

          • Joe H

            Purely projection coming from a devout Liberal plantation owner

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            you are just a racist bigot.

          • rockcut

            Your post makes no sense. It is just you posting insults . If that is all you have, why post?

          • Roy

            I notice that you have completely ignored what I said. Hard to refute the truth, isn’t it?

          • rockcut

            What did I ignore?

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            Yup, just as much sense as a left-wit “liberal” makes.

          • Born in the South and proud

            Oh, how the truth hurts and burns. It must be pure hell to realize that you are not the anointed one.

          • rockcut

            I never said I was the anointed one. So you reply makes no sense.

      • dmttbt

        There are none more racist than the ones who keep screaming about racism, such as Whoopi Goldberg and others like her. The blacks are the most racist in the world. They are born and taught that they would be wealthy if it weren’t for slavery and the white man. How long is that excuse good for?

        • rockcut

          I am sorry, but I do not see it as you do. I consider your view as part of the problem and not the solution.

          • 1947goldenjet

            I see your point of view part of the problem and not the solution. And that gets us where? exactly?

          • rockcut

            First, we must stop demonizing each other. I think that would be a good start. There is far too many replies in here that go directly to insulting the person and not dealing with the post. That has to improve.

          • 1947goldenjet

            We agree 100% (I confess that I had to resist 110%). Offering insults is never the answer to furthering a discussion (I have never seen anyone’s opinion changed because someone called him/her an asshole). I can tell you why without demeaning YOU why I would never vote for Hillary. Yes, I know that this is off topic, but I want to illustrate for others that may be reading our interchange how this can be done without insults. So with your understanding here follows one reason. In 19996 she landed in Bosnia representing her husband. She was met at the airfield by girls handing out flowers and she was accompanied by Chelsea (if memory serves me correctly. In 2008 she related the following story: “I landed in Bosnia and upon exiting the plane we came under sniper fire. I can remember that we lowered our heads and ran for cover.” This was proven by newsmen and security that covered this trip to be an out and out lie. Now, you ask why do I find that significant? I’m glad you asked. I died on a hilltop in Vietnam in Oct. 1969 but by the grace of (I have no wish to inflame anyone else’s idea of what exists in the unseen). At least 10 others did. Young men dead before their time while committing acts of valor. Coming under fire and dying is something (one of the very few things) that I take extremely seriously. Stolen valor is something they talk about when a general or admiral wears a medal that they are not entitled to. Or, when someone wears a uniform or portion of a uniform that they did not earn the right to wear (my daughter refused to wear my dress uniform replete with medals, unit and rank insignia to a Halloween party because of this issue). Hillary had no qualms about stealing the valor of all the servicemen who died in service to our country since before its inception while reciting her tale of heroism under fire.

          • rockcut

            I am in agree with you and find why you do not support Hillary. You made excellent points and I can understand them since I served our country proudly for 22 years. I have no idea what or why Hillary embellished this account. I do not think it can be justified. Now, bringing this back to the election. I think honestly we have the two worst persons running this year. And, I like many will have to vote for the lessor evil.

          • 1947goldenjet

            As will I. And whichever one we vote for, my fervent hope is that he/she will exceed our expectations. Pax.

          • Glenn Trail

            Well now, in January of 2025 when both Clintons are in jail, and Trump is just ending his second term, let me know who was the lesser of two evils.

          • rockcut

            I see you are full of make believe. You are just plain wrong . Trump cannot unite he convention let alone the country.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            you are the problem, you are racist, and don’t even know it.

          • richbach

            Let me try and educate you. It was the GOP that got the voting rights and the civil rights acts passed in the 60’s not the Democrats. The Democrats have lied to the Blacks in this country for years and they still vote for them. Maybe if you look at what the GOP has done to further the black community, then maybe they might vote for the party that got them the Civil Rights act past and not listen to the party that is working really hard to keep this country divided.

          • rockcut

            What a smug reply. I do not dispute what you said of the
            GOP of the past. The key words are “the past”. If is not not the GOP of the present the party that is all in for the color of what white preventive.. Saying the GOP is for bringing this
            County together is a joke.

          • Glenn Trail

            And don’t forget that it was the white man that fought for the blacks freedom. And don’t forget. it was the blacks in Africa that rounded up other blacks and sold them into slavery. If folks would read books instead of relying on a computer they may just learn something. They don’t teach history (or anything they should) in school anymore. Example: my great, great, great niece (yes I am an old codger) graduated high school and I was asking some questions, I asked her where the “international date line” was. She said it was on some on line dating site and tried to find it on her I phone. I rest my case on education in modern teaching.

      • Shelly Shannon

        I dont know about that. Do you speak 4 different languages fluently?

        • used_to_be_a_liberal

          no he does not, he only has one, and it is called “Left-Wit”

        • rockcut

          No, only two. Sorry !!

    • Wendy Baughman

      I agree 100% Michael doesn’t have a pat on this quote it is older than dirt & I used it on my kids from my grand mother give us a break Shep Smith on FOX is bias and cutting Trumps throats need to get rid of him still like FOX but will not watch him anymore Melania is not a racist like Michael for sure we love her she is 10 times + smarter than Michael

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    • Shelly Shannon

      Michelle Oblahma actually got this from a 1912 speech. I dont know what the peroblem is anyway. It wasnt plagerized because it wasnt used word for word anyway. You would think the dems would be worried about a lot more than a few words. They figure, if they can’t stop Donald then go after Melania. Such losers.

      • used_to_be_a_liberal

        have you got more details from the original speech from 1912, I would like to have the info, to shut a few people up.

        • Shelly Shannon

          Okay, I found what I was looking for. In 2012 Michelle stole her speech from a book. The book was written by Rob Marsh, an African American author, in 1992 titled “Business Success in South Africa”. Michelle Obama used this book to write her speech which actually means she is the plagerizer because there was a by-line and copyright law on the book. This book contains the same words that she accused Melania of steeling from her.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            Great, thanks!!!

      • Born in the South and proud

        Dear old hill-r-killr could give a speech and start by saying I’m Jesus Christ and the only way is through me. The bunch of lilly livered liberal progressives and their media lapdogs would immediately jump out there saying what a great speech she came up with. The whole dam bunch makes me sick and want to throw up. While I’m on my high horse I am extremely disappointed in George W Bush and the whole family being so childish as to refuse to attend the convention. Many of us voted for you in both elections and stood behind you when the demos and media were screaming for your ass. I can understand that you are disappointed that Jeb didn’t get the nomination. But it his own fault he ran a lousy primary, I guess because he thought he would automatically be crowned nominee. Romney is another I don’t understand. What was this whole dump Trump about did he think he could win this time. Romney you lost twice. If you had ran a better campaign the 2nd time you would be sitting in the White House rather than what we have. But quite frankly you blew it all by your little ole self.
        Trump 2016 God Bless America Let FREEDOM Ring

        • Elaine

          Born in the South, I agree wholeheartedly! Well said.

        • Shelly Shannon

          Horray!! Don’t forget about kasich either. His disrespect for Donald Trump and the whole republican party is disgraceful. I hope the citizens of Ohio remember this when election time comes back around. “TRUMP AND PENCE, BUILD THAT FENCE”!

    • Joe Papp

      Elisabeth Dole in 1996 at Republican convention nominating her husband Bob Dole

  • joleenworden

    Right on. Don’t you wish the mainstream Media could spend this much time and energy looking into All of the Clinton Corruption, or maybe the Obama Corruption. So now it will be a crime to say things that are “similar” to what was said by a Liberal Democrat. How ridiculous! Melania should tell the press to take a hike. What really matters is she meant what she said.

    • bobnstuff

      Where have you been for the last 25 years, if the Clinton’s pass gas they try to get them for air pollution.

  • scot_belle

    Since when…can a COMMON and TRADITIONAL PHRASE ………be considered as plagiary?? I am retired and this phrase was taught to me by my parents, grandparents and most of my educators. HEY………..Libs just need to GET A GRIP, and quit trying so ignorantly to slam Melania.

    • dmttbt

      It reminds me of black lives matter when they are supporting what happened in Ferguson. I mean the demonstrations, not the made up charges. People were shipped in from other places to protest, but what they call protest is a crime if it had been a white group. Destruction and theft do not equal demonstration. Hands up don’t shoot never even happened, that was made up for a good line to protest about.

  • dmttbt

    Who the hell are these black democrats? Now they own the rights to our language. I knew we had lost the N word but now they claim ownership to all the rest. This country is about 240 years old and I would think that just about every set of words have been used at least once. Michelle says the blacks like herself have been oppressed. She was working a part time job in Chicago and making in the 100’s of thousands of dollars and then when obama got to be president and she had to go with him she had to leave her highly, highly paying job behind. It was such a crucial job, even though it was part time they did not even hire someone to take her place. I think the millionaire can quit crying poor little black girl now. It is not going to work any better than Hillary crying they were poor when they left the Whitehouse. They did try to steal the dishes and art work and silverware and numerous other things, but they had to give it back.
    Who gives a rats a s if the two speeches sound the same? Michelle said that Mrs. Trump doesn’t speak American and that is suppose to be a quote. She does speak american and a few other languages as well. Obama is a Muslim and now he is not trying to hide it as much but our representatives should have been all over that all along. His grandparents on both sides were communist and his mother and father were communist and we let this person be twice elected as president, what the h ll?

  • speedle24

    The difference is that Mrs. Obama’s words were just words. Mrs. Trump actually meant what she said. In any case the difference in the ugly quotient between the two is such that I could listen to Mrs. Trump tell me the sun comes up in the west much easier than listening to Mrs. Obama letting me in on the true meaning of life.

  • dawntoo

    If there was a speech writer other than Melania, the speechwriter should be fired. In fact, I would suspect such a speechwriter is a liberal plant who did this intentionally to set Melania up. If Melania did this, no one really cares, she is his wife not a professional. But it is an indication that she may not be ready for the intense scrutiny of the press.

    • rockcut

      Yep, never take responsibility always say it it the other guy. Lib speech writer. Are you serious. Plus, explain away her saying she had a degree when she dropped out after the first year.

      • bobnstuff

        She would be the least educated first lady in a very long time.

  • original ancestry

    Fire them all in Washington.

  • GATORLAND

    I cannot imagine any writer looking back to one of M. Obama’s speeches. As far as I am concerned her presentation was excellent, very personable and the love she and her husband have for this country. If the press is looking for wrong doing trickery and untruths look no further then the female on the Democrat Ticket running for president.

    • dmttbt

      I couldn’t have said it better myself. With all the corruption we have been living under and they want to pick a speech that is supposedly like one from about 8 years ago. Grow up you ignorant POS.
      We have just had the head of the FBI confirm that Hillary is indeed guilty but would not recommend prosecution. He confirmed that she lied repeatedly and now we are suppose to trust this less than heterosexual as the first female president. Only in america!

    • rockcut

      You are kidding yourself with that remark only one person met it How low can you sink in your thinking. She also lied about her education. Your excuses are very weak.

      • Ah nutz

        you are ‘weak ‘ between the ears.

        • rockcut

          When you cannot defend than insult. Sorry, you are the one that is looking foolish about this time. Suck it up !!!

          • Joe H

            Seems to me you are only here to throw insults. A paid troll usually does this.

          • rockcut

            My posts are my opinions not insults. However, I do point insults when posted to me. I am just a chatter, get use to it. Your paid troll is silly.

          • Joe H

            Having read most of your replies, I see you are a chatty Kathy with no substance. Paid troll fits you perfectly.

          • rockcut

            I answer those who post to me . It appears your strong suit is attempted insults and not substance.

        • used_to_be_a_liberal

          that is because he can only speak “left-wit”

      • Barrustio

        You ignore the fact that Melania is not running for President but Crooked Hillary is…and she’s been lying to you and you obviously love it. You liberals just love getting shafted ,eh?

        • Shelly Shannon

          Don’t they tho? Talk about a glutton for punishment. Lol

        • bobnstuff

          If someone presents things as her own but in fact they have been lifted from someone else without their consent even if she does a good job presenting it it’s still stealing. Since she has very little education you can cut her some slack but it’s still stealing.

          • Joe H

            Can you say that about Oblamer, Biden and other Democrats who have lifted lines from speeches made by others? You need me to point you in the right direction or is Google not your friend?

          • bobnstuff

            I really don’t care who does it plagiarism is stealing. Biden might have been our president had he not been caught. Melania my not even know that what she did was wrong and I don’t think the first lady will sue her for it. Melania is nice arm candy but Trump did not sleep with her because of her brain, I’m pretty sure he didn’t marry her for her brain and her back ground isn’t really one that prepared her for this. Her job is looking good. She makes nice with people but she is in way over her head in this campaign.

          • granvillea

            Excuse me but Melania did nothing wrong and in fact stole nothing as there was nothing to steal. Michelle Obama used two lines of typical, campaign boiler plate that was neither her original thoughts nor was it true. Melanie used the same political boiler plate (not in fact word for word and I doubt seriously whether anyone involved would have thought twice about two lines being similar when the two lines were typical political rhetoric).

            Unlike Michelle Obama, however, Melania actually believes the rhetoric. Michelle Obama never met a racial preference she didn’t embrace and may believe that getting admitted to college based on racial preferences is “hard work” and may believe that racial divisiveness is bringing people together, but actually as followers of Saul Alinsky, she and President Obama both believe that the ends justify any lies necessary to achieve those ends.

          • bobnstuff

            She believe the rhetoric, that may be true, she also might believe in Big Foot and UFO’s. More people believe in both those things then believe that Trump is a honest man.

          • Barrustio

            My point, which I feel is of more importance, is that Melania is not running. The media is doing what it does best, detract from the obviously crooked candidate whose lying has cost lives…talk about stealing …didn’t she remove some articles from the WH when she and Bill left “almost broke” and “under sniper fire”?

          • bobnstuff

            Explain to me how Hillary’s lying cost lives. The republican investigation into the event never found anything that Clinton said killed anyone. I think you are a little mixed up here. As far as them being almost broke when they left the White House it was most likely some what the truth. They had to pay their own legal fees for all the attacks and most likely owned a bunch of money. Once they got out and started speaking for fees they paid it off fast but only being worth a few hundred thousand would seem broke to someone who had been worth a few million. Trump said basically the same thing in the early 90’s.

          • Barrustio

            Heheh

        • rockcut

          I know Melania is not running but it points out the smoke and mirrors that the total Trump run is and more and more will be exposed. I see you like a good non-thinking solider are mouthing the Crooked Hillary chant. Trump’s name calling reminds me of a grade school bully.

          • Shelly Shannon

            Then explain to me why Michelle Obama stole her speech in 2008. The same speech she just accused Melania Trump of steeling from her. Michelle Obama took her speech from a book written by Rob Marsh titled “Business Success in South Africa”. That would make Michelle Obama the plagerist because there was a by-line and copy right law on that book.

          • rockcut

            I read the quote you referenced and they were not the same Nor where they word for word as Melania’s were….

          • Barrustio

            It appears the no -thinker is you if after having heard the FBI respond to Trey Gowdy about all the lies which are obvious to rational individuals…and after Lynch met with Bill to advise him that the fix was in…and you still think “Crooked Hillary” is a misnomer, you need some help. I understand that there are some centers which assist liberals in “detoxing” from their indoctrination

          • rockcut

            You are upset because you wanted her charged. As to Lynch she excused herself. You are beating a dead horse. Your vision of charging her has upset you and I understand it. Again, when you slip into personal attack as you ended it means in the long run you have nothing and are upset Hillary was not charged.

          • Barrustio

            There was no “desire” to see her charged as much as there was to see justice meted out equitably as it would have been to the ordinary citizen. If you think that’s what took place, you are fooling yourself.

            As for Lynch, you are absolutely correct…she “excused” herself rather than “RECUSE” herself, as any self respecting law enforcement individual with integrity, would have done.

            My closing was not a personal attack as much as it was a suggestion to open your eyes and ears to other schools of thought besides the liberal narratives to which you are accustomed. You see I was a Democrat my entire life until I was forced into reality with all the divisiveness I have witnessed in America, since Obama took over. I actually supported Hillary in the primaries when she ran against Obama but was forced to vote for a proven patriot (McCain) when I thought about the experience a community organizer might have in keeping our country safe. When he won I sincerely was hoping that he would prove me wrong in my assessment of him. When the POTUS then decided to hold a beer summit to ease “racial tensions” in a neighborhood dispute, I knew I had made the right choice. That’s why I couldn’t understand that the people who were fooled the first time, went back for more. At that point, I knew that the brainwashing phase had been effective and that America was in real trouble. So no, no personal attack here.

          • rockcut

            First, let me say I appreciate how clear you make your posts. You are one of the most comprehensible posters. I understand your points. However, I find the example of the beer summit a bit, (how can I say it) superficial. I thought the whole situation was childish on the part of the policeman. He overacted. I think Obama tried to be a honest broker. But, I thought Obama should not have raised the profile of this dispute. This brain washing term goes both ways and I think it is a bit over the top. Trying to swat all the charges found both sides away, I think it will come down to the lesser of two evils and I think the American people will, in the end choose Hillary over Trump.

          • Barrustio

            I agree totally that it IS a choice between the lesser of two evils and you are also right that the greater evil is likely to win.

          • rockcut

            I like your play on words. You take care of yourself Ann be well.

      • Shelly Shannon

        I said this once before and I’ll say it again. Back that up with proof instead of bla, bla, bla, bla.

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