Senator reiterates fake claim of 17 agencies agreeing the Russia meddled in election

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July 11, 2017

Senate Supreme CourtSen. Amy Klobuchar reiterated the incorrect statistic Monday that 17 intelligence agencies all agreed Russia was the sole actor in hacking the 2016 elections.

“You’re saying 17 intelligence agencies have firmly established that Russia has been trying to hack us. We know they’ve been hacking on the private side as well. That’s why Congress, on a vote of 97-2 in the U.S. senate, we put forward stronger sanctions,” Ms. Klobuchar said on MSNBC.

Last week, the New York Times actually issued a correction regarding the statistic saying Mr. Trump was correct that only four offices have determined Russia interfered including the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, the FBI and the Director of National Intelligence Office.

Mr. Trump said in Poland last week that “three or four” agencies came to that conclusion.

  • Walter Flatt

    THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY NOW, ACTING LIKE HITLER AND HIS BUNCH DID BEFORE WORLD WAR 2 BROKE OUT. KEEP REPEATING LIES AFTER LIE UNTIL THEY BRAINWASHED THE PUBLIC INTO BELIEVING. I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THIS, BUT IT MAY BE TIME THAT WE SHUT DOWN THE NEWS MEDIA IF WE CATCH THEM IN LIES.

  • Walter Flatt

    I BELIEVE THAT MY PARTY THE DEMOCRATS IS IN STEP WITH OBAMA, HILLIARY, KERRY, HOLDER AND THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY AS WE KNOW IT. IT IS TIME THAT WE GOT ROUGH WITH THESE IDIOTS AND MADE SURE OUR COUNTRY STAYED BASED ON OUR CHRISTIAN BELIEFS.

    SHARE THIS WITH EVERYONE YOU CAN.

    FROM A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, A KOREAN WAR VET, AND A CHRISTIAN. I AM AN AMERICAN AND PROUDLY, I VOTED FOR TRUMP. I AM 86 AND HAVE NEVER SEEN A MORE QUALIFIED PERSON TO BE PRESIDENT.

    TRUMP NEEDS TO FIRE EVERYONE CONNECTED TO THE DEMOCRATS AND REALLY INVESTIGATE THE REAL MUSLIM PROBLEM WE ARE FACING.

    PUBLIC LAW 414, PAGE 2, SECTION 212 WAS PASSED IN 1952 AND THIS LAW SHOULD BE ENFORCED. IT BANS ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO DESTROY US, THAT INCLUDE A MUSLIMS.

    5 CAMPS IN NORTH VA. CLOSE TO WASHINGTON, A MINIMUM OF 31 MORE CLOSE TO MILITARY BASES, AND A FEMA CAMP, (SOME STATES MORE), IN EVERY STATE. BUILT WITH TAX PAYER $. TO HOUSE MUSLIMS???

    READ THE QURAN, THEIR BIBLE. IF THE CAMPS IN N. VA. ARE TO TAKE DC. WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF HEADLESS POLITICIANS.

    COULD IT BE THAT OBAMA ALONG WITH HILLIARY AND THE NEWS MEDIA, HAVE SET US UP FOR HIM TO LEAD A MUSLIM INVASION OF OUR COUNTRY? IF NOT,

    WHY TRY AND BUY UP ALL AMMO AND TAKE OUR GUNS.

    WHY, WHILE IN OFFICE, DID HE SET HIS CABINET WITH MOSTLY MUSLIMS.

    WHY WAS HILLIARY’S TOP AIDE A RADICAL MUSLIM,

    WHY IS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY FOR A OPEN BORDER. COULD IT BE TO GET FREE DOPE, GOODGLE, THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES 2015 AND LISTEN TO IT ALL.

    WHY ARE ALL MUSLIM CAMPS CLOSE TO OUR MILITARY BASES?

    LAST WHY, DID OBAMA SEND BILLIONS TO HIS MUSLIM FRIENDS.

    THIS COUNTRY HAD BETTER WAKE UP QUICK.

    • bobnstuff

      Do you know that you keep posting the same thing over and over?

  • Ramon1710 .

    It looks like mental zero Franken, sitting next to mental zero Klobuchar, is turning into a bass (the fish, not the instrument).
    He’s got glasses, but so did Henry Limpett when he turned into a fish.
    Klobuchar could even be gesturing as to what size Al will be when the transformation is complete.

  • Lajos Markos

    look you ran the FBI Comey and NSA ran By Clipper and CIA you get the picture

  • bobnstuff

    So only the FBI, the CIA, NSA and the Director of National Intelligence say Russia interfered in the election. Why would we believe the top experts instead of Trump? Now maybe if Fox News said it Trump would believe it.

    • Lajos Markos

      why the loser party tells the truth there one party its the true American people party.

      • bobnstuff

        3 million votes. That’s why. More people voted for Democrats then Republicans in the last election, that’s why. Plus this isn’t a winner take all sport. The views of all the people are suppose to be taken into consideration under our system. This “We won so you can get lost” attitude is in fact UN-American.

        • Rodney Steward

          With 2.5 million illegal , dead, and repeat voters so far!

          • bobnstuff

            Another story that has no facts to back it up. Did you vote? did you see anyone voting illegally? Do you even have a clue how the elections are run? I don’t think you do. Standing next to the judge of election there was a Republican watching every single voter when the went to vote. Are you claiming that they didn’t do their job? I’ve been one of those guys and if you don’t believe that the vote is honest go do it yourself. It’s people with little knowledge and weak minds that believe these fairy tails.

          • Rodney Steward

            Of course I voted, and Cal., and NYC is where so many illegal votes came from, after all there’s very few True American’s living in either place! I guess you’ll send Mayor Billy-Blob DeBlasio a love letter now that he went to the G-20 summit to march with the socialist!

          • bobnstuff

            Both states have a pretty large indigenous population and they are after all the only True Americans. Once again did you personally see anyone voting illegally?

          • Rodney Steward

            Now bobby I’m good, but it’s kinda hard to be in all 50 states on election day, all you have to do is follow the sanctuary states, there’s your problems, they’re UnConstitutional!

          • bobnstuff

            Check you constitution but you will find that there is nothing in it that makes local governments enforce federal laws. As far as being in all fifty states you don’t need to be because the party is and they watch all the polling places for you to keep thing honest. The folks running the polls are from first hand experience protectors of our democratic system and work very hard to make sure we have fair and honest elections.

          • Rodney Steward

            Funny that most of the places that have voter fraud are run by blacks and don’t show voter ID, do you show voter ID bobby! My state you can’t vote unless you show it! Funny the ones that don’t want to show ID don’t mind showing it for food stamps and other free shi$ !!

          • bobnstuff

            In Pa you don’t have to show ID, it’s not needed. You sign your name and they check your signature. Now name one state that the Secretary of State is Black. Name any state that has a large number of blacks in office. Just more of your made up facts.

          • Rodney Steward

            I’m talking about the ones working at the voting places, they be letting them other blacks vote all they want, and das dead uncles, moma’ lets, daddys, the ones that knew them, and I’m not talking about all the BS you’ve dreamed up!

          • bobnstuff

            BS, there is a republican standing right next to the poll worker watching everything they do. I guess you don’t trust Trumps people. I have work as a poll watcher, have you?

          • Rodney Steward

            Another LIE, a poll watcher my a$$, what a clown!!

          • bobnstuff

            I was the elected ward chairman for my ward in the Republican party. I know you never do any of those things. You would have to leave the safety of you bunker. Just for the record the republicans in my area are boring. I’m told the Democrats have are much more fun but they never win the election.

          • Rodney Steward

            No’ I never have messed with it, never have been ask too, we vote at the Armory and don’t have 2nd rate workers at our voting places!

          • bobnstuff

            All kidding aside you really should do it. I saw neighbors I have seen in years and got to help keep our election fair and honest. Don’t wait to be asked contact your party of choice. Also being on the local committee was an education in it’s self. In most cases you don’t even need to run , just show up at the meeting. Give it a try. I was elected on a write in campaign.

          • Rodney Steward

            It probably would be fun, it’s always nice to see people you hadn’t seen in a while! But I really don’t have the time, keeping up 2 places or 3 counting my mom’s business! She’s had a stroke and have to take care of all her business and keeping some one to stay with her during the day, keeping her in groceries and I stay a couple of days a week at times, always one day for sure! And then there’s Doctors, so I stay busy most all the time!

          • bobnstuff

            Well if you ever get the time give it a try. I know what you are going through with you Mother. Mine had a stroke and my Dad was trying to take care of her but he developed Alzheimer’s so I ended up moving back home. As things got worse I ended up selling my business to spend more time helping them. In the end I had full time help for her and Dad and then just for mom. I’m very proud that I was able to keep her at home till the end and she died in her own bed. You are a good person to do what you are for her.

          • Rodney Steward

            Like you, I’ll never put my mother in a home, I’m doing all I can and so far things are going OK, mom likes the person that’s staying with her and that’s great! She still has a good brain on most everything, just a little short time memory lose! But when mom had her stroke, 4 months later my dad fell in the floor dead with a heart attack and that was a total SHOCK to us all, so we basically lost both parents in 4 months! My dad and I were SUPER close and I still miss my hero so much! But I keep telling myself it’s the cycle of life, but it doesn’t make things any easier, but still got mom and something to hold on to!

          • bobnstuff

            I was lucky that I had a good care giver for Mom, I brought her home from my business and no one could have cared for Mom better. They became best friends and Mom was matron of honor at our wedding. Dad die in 2001 and was at home until ten days before his passing. The last six month were not easy but he did better then the doctors thought he would and lasted longer. He was a big force in making me who I am and he is in my thoughts everyday. The fact that I live in the same house I grow up in helps. Mom lasted three years longer. I was very lucky to get to spend the time I did with them. Everyday I try to make them proud. The funny thing is one of the reasons I come to sights like this is I miss the debates my Dad and I would have. There wasn’t the name calling that we have here but we would go back and forth. Dad read three newspapers a day and did the Sunday NYT crossword in ink in ten minutes. Taking care of our parents isn’t easy but I would do it again without even thinking twice.

          • Rodney Steward

            Yes Bob, taking care of our parents is a great thing to me, after all they raised us and tried to make sure we had the things in life that made us proud and worked hard to have the extras in life! I remember our first Colored TV, we thought we were rich and could pick up all 5 channels at the time! Mom lives in the house we grew up in and can remember when he had it built, it’s a nice home and still is!! Our parents were good to us, but they did not spoil us that bad, they NEVER bought us a car, but they did help us get one when we got summer jobs to pay on it as much as possible! I always felt we had the best parents in the would, but we were taught what work was at a young age and wouldn’t take anything for it! Have a great weekend Bob!! 🙂

          • bobnstuff

            Sounds like we had the same type of upbringing. My parents did buy me a car when I decided to save money and live at home for my first two years of college. It was cheaper then my living in the dorm and it made it easier for me to get to my job after school. For some reason they didn’t think my 1956 Studebaker was up for the job. I’m the youngest of five and my folks made sure we all got a chance to go to college. I can’t remember not having a job even in high school. Work was something honored in our family. Good honest labor. We did have great parents. I tried to be as good as they were while raising my children and hope I did as good a job as they did. Now I get to see the lessons I learned and taught in practice with how my grand children are being raised. So far so good. You also have a good weekend.

          • chw2000

            I guess that’s why 20+ states are refusing to turn over their voter rolls for the “team” to check. You’re a total idiot and a complete a$$ hole BSBob. You’re a complete “hand job”.

          • bobnstuff

            The number is now 40 states. No one trusts the Trump team to handle the records safely.

          • chw2000

            So what are they hiding? You are an idiot and an a$$ hole. Trust is not the reason BSBob. Again, your head is in that big gaping a$$ of yours. Amazing how much you can get up there.

        • chw2000

          “we won so you can get lost” was what Obama said. Guess you’ve had your head up your a$$ most of your life. You are a total a$$ hole idiot!

          • bobnstuff

            I get to guess who had the head up their a$$? Well I guess you! Most of what you post came from there.

          • chw2000

            No BSBob, you’re wrong again. Everything I say is based on fact, not opinion like you BSBob. I see from the conversation that no one else agrees with you either. You’re an a$$ hole BSBob with no facts. Go phuk yourself.

        • Bob

          Interesting enough, prior to the election I heard all these liberals wanking about how it is the Electoral College that elects the President and NOT the popular vote Yeah, Hillary got a huge popular vote bump in CA and NY, yet LOST 304 to 227 where it matters. You people keep going on about “She got 48% of the vote compared to his 46%” Well, he got 57.25% of the Electoral College to her 42.75%. As for this not being a “winner take all sport”, tell that to the Obama Admin when they LOST both houses of congress and his answer was to tell all he would govern around congress with his pen and cell phone. But that doesn’t matter, as his heart was pure, right?

    • Lajos Markos

      the FBI CIA NSA cant be trusted like Comey FBI Leaker NSA clipper
      does know which end is up and CIA is just as bad experts many ass

      • bobnstuff

        But Fox News and Breitbart can be trusted. You have been suckered and you don’t even know it.

        • Bob

          The story is about how the media and the democrats (redundant) are continuing to emit the BS of the false narrative. The NYT admitted they exaggerated the story of “17 intelligence agencies” buying off on the Russian thing. They did NOT report that, although several agencies report to Clapper, only he and the CIA from that group bought off on the story. 11 of 13 disagreed, but that can’t be reported. And mindless worms repeat the lie, believing it to be true, and claiming anyone who does not agree with them is simply “partisan”. The real “partisans” are those who continue expounding the lies. I bet you believed the widely reported story, “with picture”, that the President removed the bust of MLK from the Oval Office even after it was proved the bust was behind the leg that in the picture.

          • bobnstuff

            The President, you know a guy named Trump said that those agencies came to this conclusion. The other agencies don’t say no it didn’t happen. I think here is where you might want to take the CIA and the FBI’s word as well as the Presidents on the subject. Russian did in fact try to influence the election. Even the President will now agree to that statement.
            http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/01/fact-check-did-17-intel-agencies-all-agree-russia-hacked-the-dnc-podesta/
            “While the intelligence report she mentions does express ‘high confidence’ that Russia sought to
            undermine her campaign, it only represents the views of three agencies – the FBI, CIA and NSA. Clinton incorrectly claims this report shows consensus among 17 intelligence agencies.”
            Also note that it was a Democrat who questioned Clapper on the 17 agencies.

          • Bob

            The former President, you know a guy named Obama, KNEW about the Russian hacking attempts in August and did NOTHING and said NOTHING until Hillary lost as to not “discredit” her win. This was admitted by Jeh Johnson, under oath, before congress. A consensus of the heads of the FBI, CIA, NSA and many other agencies said, under oath before Congress and the cameras, that (1) there is no evidence of collusion between the President, his campaign, his transition team and the Russians; (2) that the President never coerced or ordered them to end an investigation, or (3) that there was no PROOF of Russian involvement (just an implication based on the type of computer programming used being similar to what has been used in the past). Based on that consensus, are you now in favor of ending this entire “nothing burger” (to quote Van Jones) of an investigation? Of course not because that would mean that Hillary lost because she ran a pitiful campaign and was a horrible candidate.

          • bobnstuff

            On October 8th the White House formally accused Russian of hacking the DNC. The FBI had been talking about the Russian involvement since July but waited till they had the facts before making the formal announcement. There is no doubt as to Russia’s involvement at this time but it took time to follow the bread crumbs back to Putin. As far as Trumps campaign being linked to Russia every day another link shows up and even Trumps son and son in law took a meeting thinking they could get the goods on Clinton. Even a blind man should be able to see the evidence of the attempt to influence the election. Trump is trying to find a way to pay them back by lifting the sanctions but congress is standing in his way. Did Clinton loose the election because of the Russians, who knows but we do know the Russians sure did work in that direction. It’s important to get all the facts out if for no other reasons that the people need to know what kind of man is president.

          • Bob

            “As far as Trumps campaign being linked to Russia every day another link shows up and even Trumps son and son in law took a meeting thinking they could get the goods on Clinton” And who is making these allegations? The same people who for months have been chanting “Not my President” and those, like Waters and the rest of the racist Democrats, who have been talking impeachment since December. Has there been one allegation that has stuck? No “smoking gun” nor any “stained blue dress” has come out. Even Obama cronie Van Jones is calling the whole thing a “nothing burger”. The ONLY allegations that have merit are the ones that link the Clinton Campaign, through Poedesta, DIRECTLY to Putin. He received MILLIONS from the Russians fro an energy company he was on the board for, and failed to disclose that when doing his security forms. Not hearing much about that one in the news, are you? As for “getting the goods on Clinton”, it called “Opposition Research”. Every candidate, even your sainted Obama and Clinton, did it.

          • bobnstuff

            Who’s making these allegations? Do you live in a cave? Donald Trump Jr, has posted his email around it. It’s not the left but Trump Jr. himself. I think they have a smoking gun now. At least half a dozen of Trumps campaign staff had meetings with the Russians that have admitted to it and who knows how many more there are. Even the President has come out and said that Russia hacked the DNC. There is opposition research and there is receiving stolen goods. There are laws involved in what you can and can’t do. Ask Nixon.

          • Bob

            Do you? Trump Jr released the e-mails AFTER the allegations had been levied against him to defend his actions. You are so concerned about the Trump campaign people meeting with the Russians, how about the amount of money foreign donors funneled into the Clinton campaign over the years? What about Poedesta and his huge million dollar deal he made and never reported? They went after Sessions about dealings he had as a Senator. Liberals are flinging crap trying to get it to stick, and failing. And what “stolen goods” are you referring to? Mr. trump went for information, opposition research. He had no idea what it was except it was against Clinton. Can you honestly say that you do not believe that any Clinton staffer would not have rushed to get any information about Trump? (And yes, I do expect honesty out of a liberal this time) You want to talk about “stolen goods”? Are you in favor of prosecuting Rachael Madcow for her release of the Trump tax returns? Funny how you liberals never speak of the racist remarks made in the DNC e-mails and only complain that their racism was exposed. Had this been the other way you damn well know you would screaming about the content of the e-mails.

          • bobnstuff

            Who cares what others did or didn’t do. Last I heard Clinton isn’t president. Hacked Emails are stolen goods in case you didn’t know. Getting help from our countries enemies for your campaign is illegal. You can complain about others actions all you want but it doesn’t change the facts that Trump’s son went to a meeting thinking he was going to get help for his fathers campaign from Russia. The Facts of Trumps ties with Russia are well documented. Trump Jr. has a problem keeping his mouth closed, Thank God, and has given us another proven link just like his bragging about getting all the money they needed for projects from Russians back in 2010. You are under the miss impression that to not like Trump makes you a liberal. I’m a life long republican, have been an elected official in the party and work on a number of campaigns. Trump isn’t a good republican, he isn’t a good leader and he isn’t a good man. Every day this point is driven home more and more.

          • Bob

            So you KNOW he was going to receive hacked e-mails in this meeting, correct? Must be nice to be clairvoyant. He was going for INFORMATION. Did not say how or where the info came from, but you KNOW do you? And how could Russia be an enemy when Clinton, as Sec State for Obama, hit the old reset button to make them our friends again? Either Obama failed in his foreign policy to make them our friends, or Mr. trump was talking to friends. Which is it?

          • bobnstuff

            He know he was getting help from the Russian government for his fathers campaign. Do you believe getting help from Russia in a campaign for president is OK? Did you read the Email exchange. Would you think you were being asked to a tea party? I guess you don’t get the news where you are. Russia has not been being friendly of late. It seem we put sanctions on them for invading their neighbor and they didn’t like it. Obama tried to improve relations but Russia didn’t recuperate.

          • Bob

            He said he was getting opposition research from a female Russian lawyer who denies she worked for their government. Can you PROVE different? Yes, I get news where I am and I listen with out the prism of liberal views to the words, not the spin or opinions or bigotry of those reporters and the mindless followers who are trying to make mountains out of NOTHING, blindly repeat their words with out even looking for the truth. Liberals refuse to cooperate in investigations of illegal voting, which is far more dangerous to the American system that this Russian nonsense, because they say there is not proof, just allegations. Well all you have here are rumors not supported by facts, innuendos and out right lies on the part of people who are upset that their precious little Clinton failed to resonate with middle America and lost an election that was her right to win. Yet this one continues.

          • bobnstuff

            That’s not what he thought he was getting when he went to the meeting. Read the email. There is no proving anything here. It’s his own emails provided by him. He believed he was getting help from the Russian government when the meeting was set up.
            http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/11/donald-trump-jr-releases-alleged-email-chain-regarding-russian-meeting.html

          • Bob

            These meeting took place months before the Obama Admin was (allegedly) told about the Russian involvement. if the Admin did not know, how could Mr. Trump have been aware of foreign influence? Also, the Clinton campaign was having meeting with representatives from Ukraine at the same time with promises of anti-Trump info. Was that wrong too? If so, should she not also be being investigated?

            You stated earlier that the Russians were not friendly “for some time”. If this is so, explain why when Romney said in the 2012 debates that the Russians were our greatest geo-political threat the Obama response was “Uh..Uh..the 1980’s called and they..uh..want their foreign policy back”, or grunts of that nature. If the Russians were not friendly in 2016, but were in 2012, who’s fault is that? Who was in office from the 2009 (misspelled) “reset” until Jan 2017? And would THAT person be responsible fro the foreign policy failure that made Russia unfriendly?

          • bobnstuff

            Funny thing Trump announced right after his son got the email but before the meeting that he would have information on Clinton that would be very bad for her but never came up with it. Did you read the emails? Do you take Trump for a fool? His people were knee deep in Russians and his business has been very involved with Russians but you believe that he know nothing about their attempt to help his campaign.

            Did Mrs. Clinton’s daughter take any meetings with people from the Ukraine? Did any member of the Ukraine government or anyone close to the government offer Clinton anything on Trump?
            One thing to remember is Hannity isn’t a reliable source for anything. He’s a talk show host” his own words”.

            We had put sanctions on Russia because of the Ukraine who was and is friendly to us, unlike Russia who even when Obama tried to make friends with never came around. Are you now saying that Obama got it right and Romney got it wrong?

            I find it interesting that the primary defense for Trumps actions are always Clinton did it or Obama did it. In your would two wrongs must make a right.

            http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/07/11/did_the_clinton_campaign_collude_with_ukraine.html
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/11/exploring-sean-hannitys-defense-of-donald-trump-jr-clinton-and-ukraine-did-it-too/?utm_term=.de0dd78f9df1

          • Bob

            Reading comprehension has never been a big thing with you, has it? I never said Clinton’s daughter was involved. I stated her CAMPAIGN was. That her daughter probably doesn’t have the knowledge to carry it off could be the reason other minions with more experience would have been sent. That President Trump did not reference information from the meeting give credence to Mr. Trump’s asserting that he left quickly. As for you discounting what is said on “Hannity” and I am sure other non-liberal media outlets, remember the same was said about Drudge and his reporting of what the media ignored lead to the impeachment of Clinton. More to the point, all you ever cite are alt-Left sources like the Washington Post, which has had to walk back more than a few Trump bashing stories for accuracy in the past few months.

            You speak of my stating facts about Clinton and Obama being used to make the alleged, but still NOT proved, actions of the Trump campaign as justified. Question: Were you awake from 2009 to 2017? EVERY action not liked during the Obama Administration was blamed on or justified by blaming Bush or GOP. Every tactic, every slight and every insult used on the 2016 campaign by Clinton and her supporters was justified by an action by President Trump. Were they right in their actions?

          • bobnstuff

            You are sure Drudge would have the same report but you didn’t check. The story was on Hannity, I gave you a link. Hannity has admitted he is Trumps number one supporter so anything about Trump or Clinton is suspect from him. He also has said he was no journalist and that he has a talk show.

            Trump Jr. was the one who had the meeting he believed was set up to get Russian Government help. This is a fact not just a story. Even he said he should have done things differently.

            This is totally unlike the Clinton campaign working with an American company that happens to be owned by a person from Ukraine and who were following leads about Trumps campaign manager working for the Ukraine opposition party. It turned out that the leads were right and Trump ended up replacing him. If you read the link you would know this.

          • Bob

            And, again, the comprehension is lacking. You should really have someone read to you that does not have the prism of your hate. I stated that Drudge was once ridiculed and belittled in the press as you and your liberal allies now are doing with Hannity, Fox and all things conservative. His reporting of stories the left deemed not fit to print led to the impeachment of Clinton. Yet you now seem to think I was speaking of his current writings. Deflection and distortion are the ways of the left.

          • bobnstuff

            Do you really think these tabloid press are conservative? I read the true conservative press and they deal in facts. If you want to see what the true conservative media has to say go read the Christian Science Monitor or the National Review. Drudge, Fox and Breitbart are tabloid media, not at all reliable when it comes to facts and appealing to the uninformed and uneducated. You might take note that every thing I said about Hannity were things he said about himself. It’s not the liberal press making things up but just their reporting what he said. You think the main stream media is going after Trump. They really have pretty much printed what he said. No one really needs to work to make Trump look bad, he does a really good job of doing it himself.
            https://www.thoughtco.com/top-conservative-magazines-3303617

          • Bob

            Deflect, evade initial statement. You continue to spout items which have nothing to do with the original statement. You prefer to change the subject constantly when you know you’re wrong. You are hyped up on your facts, check these out:

            Since you could not find anyone to explain my post to you that did not have your limited prism of hate to look through, I hope this is clear enough

            1. In the 90’s, Clinton was abusing females left and right

            2. The Media was ignoring it.

            3. The media was parroting the Clinton and Democrats attacks on any woman who made claims.

            4. Drudge, a little known blogger, made allegations, including the Lewinski affair.

            5. The Clintons and Democrats denies it, calling it part of the “vast right wing conspiracy”.

            6. The media tried to destroy Drudge and repeated the denials with out investigating the claims.

            7. The Starr investigation got hold of it and did investigate.

            8. Clinton perjured himself before Congress and in the Courts.

            9. Clinton was Impeached but not removed.

            10. Once out of office, when it didn’t matter anymore, he came clean. He was found guilty of Perjury and lost his law license.

          • bobnstuff

            https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/25/us/politics/ken-starr-impeachment-bill-clinton.html
            Drudge made false allegation after false allegation. The Starr investigation was about White Water which was a dry hole. By turning over every stone the finally found the Lewinski story. The actions with Lewinski herself broke no laws and would have been left alone only a few years earlier but the Tabloids wouldn’t let it go. Eight million dollars of tax payer money went into getting Bill for not admitting to a BJ. How do you think D.J. Trump would do on the witness stand? When President Trump goes up it won’t be over a BJ but over treason and he will not be alone.

            Do you know the difference between a news outlet and a blog?

            https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/blog

            Definition of blog

            1 computers : a website that contains online personal reflections, comments, and often hyperlinks, videos, and photographs provided by the writer; also : the contents of such a site

            Definitions for media outlet.
            Media outlet(Noun).
            A publication or broadcast program that provides news and feature stories to the public through various distribution channels. Media outlets include newspapers, magazines, radio, television, and the Internet.

            Reference: definitions.net/definition/media outlet

          • Bob

            Now it’s treason? You folks just don’t stop. YOU are the seditious a-holes who are ruining the country with your hate. Who are the folks who want blood in the streets? Who is it that shoots unarmed people playing baseball? LIBERAL butt heads like you. Who stabs people trying to defend women being accosted on train platforms? Bernie Sanders supporters, that’s who. Although the media blamed it on Trump supporters, and liars like you parrot it, it was LIBERALS who are killing people, who are assaulting people because they don’t like their views. You call Trump and his supporters “Nazi”, and it is your people who are acting like this is Germany in the 30’s. YOU are the people who should be up on treason charges. Sound abgry? DAMN RIGHT I AM. You have now gone too far. Please do not respond as I am really done with your anti-Trump libelous slander So, stuff it, bobnstuff

          • bobnstuff

            Conspiring with a foreign government to effect an elections out come would in the eyes of most people be treason.

            Who is it shooting up black churches, shooting doctors and shooting up pizza shops? He who is without sin cast the first stone.
            https://www.rt.com/usa/325922-hate-crimes-muslims-mosques/
            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/11/12/post-election-spate-hate-crimes-worse-than-post-911-experts-say/93681294/
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/11/anti-muslim-hate-crimes-are-still-five-times-more-common-today-than-before-911/?utm_term=.4e309a3051c7

            Have you ever looked at what the Nazi’s did or what they stood for? What was one of the first things done under Hitler, arm the citizens, remove the strict gun control laws. Next he built up Germany’s military. He also believed in “Make Germany Great Again”. Hitler promoted hate for a group of German citizen because they looked different and were of a different faith. Any of these things ring a bell. He attacked the press, and the educated. I would say Trump read Hitlers play book if I believed Trump had ever read a book.

            So show me anything I have said that isn’t the truth.

          • Bob

            Delete you account, and all your aliases

          • Bob

            However, we have strayed far from the true meaning of this story we were discussing. The NYT had to retract their untrue assertions that 17 intelligence agencies sign on to the Russian collusion story when it was in fact 3 or 4. This makes their initial story about 80% false. In the liberal press, this would be called a “fact based opinion piece” when bashing the President. (99% true would be called a lie if for the President) and this is true of most media outlets that spend their time bashing the President because he beat the unbeatable. Yet you still rely on their assertions about anything that is anti-Trump to prove your points. Try to stay on topic some time, will you?

          • bobnstuff

            If the FBI, the CIA and the NSA all say it then there is a pretty good chance it’s the truth. Also those other agencies didn’t say that there wasn’t collusion. Now we find the Presidents son taking meetings with the Russians which is pretty damming. The number of agencies really doesn’t change song just the size of the choir singing it. Do you truly doubt the Russians tried to effect the election? do you truly trust Trump & Company from working with them? What the papers say isn’t as important as the nature of our president and his team. Do you think if Trump & Company got a chance to strengthen their hand they would pass it up even if the ethics were questionable? Trump has never been big on ethics.

        • Rodney Steward

          You don’t see the FAKE word anywhere around them do you, the CIA director was a D’N muslim with Brennan, the FBI was in the pocket of Opey and Hellary, and the NSA is just for the highest bidder, but you just hang in there with CNN and lick one Rachel Madcow with MSNBC!! That’s your class anyway!

          • bobnstuff

            I hear the BS alarm ring loud and strong. President Trump is no longer saying that the Russians didn’t try some funny business so get with the program or are you claiming that the President is now lying?

          • Rodney Steward

            You’re part of the RETARD GANG, not me, I believe in our President! How is it you’re kin to Maxine Waters again, was it through one of your black grand kids!

          • bobnstuff
          • Rodney Steward

            I think this came out before everyone found out what a LIAR Obama’s homey Comey was!

          • bobnstuff

            No look at the date. Trump now not only admits to it but is complaining that Obama didn’t do enough about it.

          • Rodney Steward

            OH, that part where Obama knew almost 5 months before the election about Russia, but made the speech about thee was NO WAY our voting system could be hacked into, and then the flood of others involved from Lynch to Comey! It just keeps getting sweeter for the Dums.!! 🙂

          • bobnstuff

            The Russians got Trump elected, Obama was wrong. You see you can’t win here so give up. Either Obama was wrong and the Russians did interfere or Trump is a liar. Which is it. As the story unfolds things get worse and worse. First he said no one talked to the Russians and now it comes out that his son and his son in law meet with a Russian hoping to get dirt on Clinton. They admit it. Either Trump was clueless as to what was happening in his campaign our he has been lying all this time. which is it?

          • Bob

            “The Russians got Trump elected…” No what got Trump elected was he was running against a substandard, unlikable candidate. He was likable where she was not. She threw mud at him and his supporters in a way that did not resonate with voters in middle America, that part of the country that Democrats, Liberals and the media (redundant) do not care about. More than all that though was that people were tired of the corruption in Washington and she exemplified that corruption.

          • bobnstuff

            Trump is not a likable person, sorry but the more you know him the less there is to like, Clinton was about the weakest person ever to run and had Trump been a little better he would have won by a landslide instead of just squeaking by. The election was a loose, loose no matter who won. I voted against Trump my brother voted against Clinton. Some day I would like to vote for someone instead of against someone. I meant to say either Russia got Trump elected or Obama was wrong in not pressing the Russia hack harder. I think Comey did more to elect Trump then anyone.

          • Bob

            Funny how people who said they never liked Trump before are very positive after they speak to him one on one. If all you have to go by is how he is portrayed in the press; if you never heard him speak before a crowd with out the filter of a hostile media how can you be sure you don’t like him? Had these media type people been around in World War II (and some look like they might have been) I am sure they would have tried to make you believe the Germans and Japanese were the good guys.

          • bobnstuff

            Trump is a great salesman, that’s his claim to fame but as a businessman he is below average. It’s not the stories of him being a pig that bothers me, it’s how he runs his business. Good businessmen do not stiff their vendors, their contractors, their customers or their employees. Trump does all of this plus more. I know the media, I worked in the industry for a while. I also know how to do research. Trump’s own words hang him. Here is just one account of Trumps business dealings in Atlantic City. I have read a number of them but they all say pretty much the same thing.https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html

          • Rodney Steward

            Obama was and still is a LIAR, and if your stupid enough to believe the Russian’s got trump elected, then go outside and look, pigs are flying every where! You are one sick puppy!

  • mort_f

    Since the Democratic Party is so enamored with socialism, perhaps it should be re-named the National Zocialistt Party, with due respects to Dr. Goebbels. As he advised, Make the lies big enough, and keep reiterating them.

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