Supreme Court strikes down Texas abortion law

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June 27, 2016


The Supreme Court on Monday struck down a Texas law regulating abortion clinics, delivering a 5-3 decision that was the high court’s first major foray into the abortion issue in nine years.

Justice Stephen Breyer wrote the majority opinion for the court, with Justices Anthony Kennedy, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan joining him. Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas dissented.

“We agree with the District Court that the surgical center requirement, like the admitting-privileges requirement, provides few, if any, health benefits for women, poses a substantial obstacle to women seeking abortions, and constitutes an ‘undue burden’ on their constitutional right to do so,” Breyer wrote.

President Obama said in a statement that he was “pleased” with the outcome.

“As the brief filed by the Solicitor General makes clear and as the Court affirmed today, these restrictions harm women’s health and place an unconstitutional obstacle in the path of a woman’s reproductive freedom,” Obama said. “We remain strongly committed to the protection of women’s health, including protecting a woman’s access to safe, affordable health care and her right to determine her own future.”

  • Bill Cash

    With this ruling of federal government over states rights you can imagine the future if Hillary Clinton is allowed to pick the remaining justices to the court. I believe we are doomed to revolution and the destruction of the American way. The saddest part of all this is that the people, the children, who had no part in this destruction, will be the victims. The stage is set.

  • Jennie Berry
  • rowleya

    Read Strphen Coonts new Book ‘Liberty’s Last Stand. Time for Texas Independence.

  • cae973

    So they are celebrating the fact that women will die if any complications arise during an abortion! How is denying woman good medical treatment a victory?

    • I Seigel

      It was never about “good medical treatment” and you know it. What a farce and a lie. Swallowed by gullible people like you, apparently.

      • Dave N.

        Your correct Seigel, it served two purposes. The first was to reduce the number of aborted babies, and second it actually did improve medical conditions which in turn improved women’s health.
        One of the other issues this demonstrates is the Federal Government overreach on States rights to self govern. The Federal Constitution is very clear what the seven areas of federal responsibility is. Just a couple of things that are not included are sex, marriage, abortion, education, and the list just keeps growing.
        Don’t be too quick to give up your rights and liberties, these and many other issues are either state or local issues covered by your States Constitution with the guarantee of protection by the Federal Constitution. The United States is a Democratic Republic made up of 50 individual states, not a land mass run by socialist dictator or centralized government owned and operated country. Although if we don’t get the ship turned around soon that’s what we will have.

  • Ken says

    Sex is a normal activity and pregnancies happen – even with the best protection. A woman has the legal right to an abortion if she and her Doctor determine it is in her best interest. Between a woman and her Doctor and no one else has any business being involved.

    • bobnstuff

      If you leave the choice to the women and her doctor you aren’t controlling them. We must stick our nose into the private places in peoples lives. Let terrorists buy guns, let companies pollute as much as they want but stick your nose into private lives.

      • I Seigel

        Good point. The government should tell a 16 year old girl or a 36 year old woman what to do with their bodies, but they shouldn’t tell a person on the No-Fly List that they can’t buy a gun. Yeah, makes a lot of sense – to the NRA.

    • KT

      You need to experience it, to understand……and it is a life giving miracle to mankind from our Heavenly Father!

      • Ken says

        Are you talking about sex? I have experienced it as recently as this morning.

        • KT

          There has always got to be someone……. who just has to be an ass…..! Tag your it!

  • PBHayes

    Protection of women’s health what a bunch of bullshit.Calling abortion a constitutional right is also bullshit. Everything is this country under the Democrats is about sex or gender. What a nightmare for those of us who remember an America that had values and standards. They are all gone.

    • Ken says

      Values and standards? You must be referring to coat hanger back ally abortions or for those that could afford it a trip to Mexico or Europe. Yeah really great before abortions were lawful. GMAB

      • PBHayes

        So killing your own child is better than raising the standards and attempting to get people to be more responsible in their behaviors? If you don’t want children then make certain you can’t get pregnant. I’m sick of people makes excuses for the ignorant uneducated uninformed masses who live in this country. How hard is it to take a pill everyday or use a condom?

        • Ken says

          Our first child was conceived while my wife was on the pill – pills are not 100% effective and a condom is far less effective for preventing conception. You can’t legislate morality even in a Theocracy so get a grip.

          • PBHayes

            We are talking about tens of millions of abortions not the occasional anomaly like your situation. Liberals like Ginzberg are on record supporting abortion because “we can’t have more of these types of people in our country”. She was referring to black Americans and other “undesirables.” Why do you think the vast majority of Planned Parenthood abortion mills are located in or near black and brown communities. I’m not one who would make abortion illegal but I would want it to be as rare as possible with a genuine effort to education people and if necessary force them into a more responsible way of life. That means no more living off people who work and pay taxes meaning no more free ride. There is no excuse for women who have no skills, no education and no husband to have multiple kids and multiple abortions. There children should be removed from their control and given to people who actually view them as human beings and not a bigger welfare payday each month. If you think I’m wrong then you need to get out more into these communities where few work and most live off people who do work.

      • TexasSandy

        Ken…..You silly rabbit!!! So ridiculous. You’re just all about poking the bear!!!! Let me say this very slow so you can compute this thought and theory…..You are defending the right of irresponsible, unaccountable men and women, that go out, make a BABY, and because that BABY is an inconvenience to their romp (probably under 5 minutes), commit MURDER because they (really HER) just can’t handle a baby. When my TAXES are paying for this to happen, I get a say!!! Because I love the Lord Jesus Christ!!! I get a say!!! And, I am going to KEEP SAYING IT!!! THOUGH SHALL NOT MURDER!!!! The louder you loud mouth LIBERALS get, the LOUDER I AM GOING TO GET!! Values, means you believe in something…That would leave you liberals OUT!!! Standards, means you taught, or learned how to behave at a certain STANDARD of civilized people. Again, that would leave you libs OUT!!! What you don’t want to realize, is that WE are here fighting against MURDER of the INNOCENT. We aren’t ever going to turn it off, change our minds, one day wake up and say it doesn’t matter. We don’t want hangers in back alleys, or trips anywhere!! We want people to behave responsibly. You go on line. You watch an abortion. Watch how a baby is being ripped apart each limb at a time, then sucked out with a tube!!! You watch that, then you open that arrogant, antagonistic mouth!!! Such a freaking HORRIBLE day when we must continue to have to explain why ABORTION is UNACCEPTABLE!!!! PERIOD!!! Keep your legs closed, keep it in your pants, we won’t have a problem!!! Behave, Behave!!!!

        • Ken says

          Sandy – #1 – 5 minutes?? Sorry you hear you are missing so much. #2 – I’m not a Liberal – I’m a Constitutional Government Conservative. #3 – I have opposed taxpayers funding abortions. Abortion is a medical procedure and should be covered by ALL medical insurance . #4. You fail to mention how much you enjoy taxpayers paying child support, food stamps, unemployment benefits, daycare, schooling, incarceration and on and on for all the unwanted children that are used as an income source and grow up with no parenting. #5 – In the ER I have witnessed more abortions than I care to think about and only 3 were Doctor induced – all the other were induced by God. Statistics don’t hide the fact that God does more abortions than all the Doctors Worldwide. Many were devastating for the woman because she wanted to be a mother. #6 – Behave? I took responsibility and control of my reproductive capabilities. I had a vasectomy after our 2nd child was born and it was like a fresh air. #6 – If “abortion is unacceptable” to you I strongly suggest you don’t have one. That is your Right in the USA just as having the choice of one is a woman’s Right.

          • TexasSandy

            Ken, Your thinking is so very sad to me. Abortions should be covered by insurance? Are you kidding? Abortions are not a medical necessity!! They are an elective surgery of convenience!! I would not dare to suggest God is the hand of the death of a baby. And, we are not talking about ER Miscarriages!!! BIG DIFFERENCE. Horrible you are so confused by the differences in the 2. I believe ANY AND ALL HAND OUTS should be for a reasonable period. NOT LIFE!! If we placed boundaries on these programs, people would HAVE to be motivated to work on their life for a better life. You would be amazed at what people will do when they HAVE to. We don’t do that. We pay these people from birth to death. That alone is DISGUSTING.I believe the boundaries must be set. Like teaching little children. No…You cannot get pregnant and go kill it for convenience sake. The subject is the MURDER of INNOCENT babies!!! That is the subject. If you make abortion illegal, women might take their Choices and choose to respect themselves enough not to allow themselves to GET PREGNANT!! They just might get a message of love and respect, rather than a punishment that they can’t go kill a baby today. That is how you raise a child, set the boundaries, then teach the proper behavior. Our message is desperate, and urgent!! Our message is of TOTAL LOVE. A love for life and dignity. Nothing about this subject is dignified, or LOVING. Because if we just say what it is, it is UNPROTECTED, CARELESS, IRRESPONSIBLE SEX AND THEN THE MURDER OF A BABY. Bottom line!! Yes, I believe every life should have its due respect. Yes, I expect people to behave. No, do I think it is ok for the women that have repeated abortions and we just turn a blind eye to the murder going on. No, I am tired of being quite while the radicals run the circus!!! I am tired of a desensitized society that has come to lax their morals to the point they come into agreement with a woman’s right to CHOOSE. We never lost our right to CHOOSE!!! It is the choices women are making that have caused this mess!! Those choices effect us all. And, it hurts us all!!!! Millions upon millions of women go their whole lives without having an abortion. This is totally avoidable. And no one wants to talk about that!!!! STARTS WITH PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY!! That is all. Thank you for your permission not to have an abortion. I share that same permission with every woman in this world who is thinking about killing their baby today!!! God, please help us all!!!

          • Ken says

            What a rant – hope you feel better. All that just to keep all of God’s abortions under the radar. Perhaps Planned Parenthood should change their name to Planned Miscarriage. “God please help us all” – I would be happy if he just helped you get your shlt together.

          • TexasSandy

            It is godless fools like you that if God had anything to do abortion would have selected retards just like you to prevent from being born!!!! Ugh!!! Your an idiot….. it is you who needs to JUST SHUT UP AND STOP offering the NOTHING YOU HAVE SO FAR!! BYE NOW Ken!!! Pathetic… Embarrassing AMERICAN IDIOT…Announcememt, KEN SAYS GOD IS AN ABORTIONIST!!! DUMB ASS!!!

          • Ken says

            Be careful that God does not slap you up side the head – God does the judging not some dizzy ditz in Texas – that is what the Bible says anyway.

          • TexasSandy

            Ken, it appears you read the same GREEK bible Bob read. Do not speak of God. You know nothing of HIM!!

          • Ken says

            Show your colors there Honey – a well trained Religious Zealot/Bigot doing what they do best – showing the World how unChristian they are. You’re an embarrassment to Christians.

          • TexasSandy

            Awwwww Ken doesn’t like the TRUTH!!! Get off this page Ken. I am a woman and a TEXAN, I belong on this page. You disillusioned MAN, do not….. God is an abortionist….You are a sick pup…Again, FOOOOOLLLLSSS ABOUND!!!!

          • Ken says

            Honey – I have just as much right on this page as you do – remember yawl wanted equal rights. Regarding the rest of the stuff just stay on your soapbox – You surely have some friends to say Amen girl, you tell them. Enjoy.

          • TexasSandy

            Hahahahaha!!! You can’t help yourself, can you??? Not a question…….

          • Ken says

            I’m not concerned about helping myself – as long as I don’t help you and your sick agenda.

  • TexasSandy

    FOOOOOLLLLLSSS ABOUND!!!!! Of course they would support KILLING!!! How about bringing those people up on charges of murder!!!! If WOMEN, would CHOOSE life for themselves, they wouldn’t go make BABIES and then MURDER them. Women have a serious SELF issue!!! God, please help them all. Close your legs!!! Then, we don’t have an abortion problem!!!! PERIOD!!!!!

    • Ken says

      Flip the coin – if men kept their peter in their pants – no problem either.

      • bobnstuff

        Last I heard half the people having sex and creating these problem are men. A high percent walk away without supporting the product they produce.

        • TexasSandy

          Oh my…. Really???? No baby can be made without the woman first saying YES!!! Ugh….. We don’t have to worry about “those men”, if self respecting women would just keep their legs shut and say NO. The end…..

          • bobnstuff

            When God created man he said be fruitful and multiply. He made it desire to do that great. He wanted us to have sex. That’s why he created man and women. You seem to believe that there is a point when a women says yes but I believe in many cases it’s more of a not saying no. Why do you put it all on the women? It takes two people to have sex but we don’t hold the man to the same standards, we don’t make them support their actions. Right now we have a man running for President that brags about all the different women he has had. Do you support him? I will give him the fact that he left his wife and children to marry the one women we know he got pregnant, but then he dumped her for a younger model. You also seem to think it’s only scumbags that have sex with women out of the bonds of marriage. If that was the case most of the men are scumbags.

          • TexasSandy

            Bobnstuff…. Really?? you do not know my God…..Do not ever attempt to propose you do. I raised 6 boys and a girl. Do not AGAIN purport to speak for all men!!! I raised my boys to totally understand their responsibilities as a man. I raised them to respect women. I raised my daughter to know her value. What she has is HER treasure, not just for anyone, certainly not some guy she just met!!! Same with the boys. Told them to run from the girls that just throw themselves at them. They are smart, and they get it!! Are they angels??? Nope. They do not have any unwanted pregnancies or babies either. You must like RAP music too. You into that shorty stuff?? I place a great responsibility on our young girls, and all women. Yes, it all starts or ends with OUR YES or NO!!!! God instructed us to procreate within the confines of marriage. Is so easy, it is not God’s word that is broken, His word and instruction on this is clear. It is Godless, immoral, sad, pathetic people who want to act without regard to consequence. And, when we stand for the absolute sanctity of life you say stay out of our business. Doesn’t work that way. I will not turn a blind eye!!! I will never entertain any of your foolish reasoning. Send me your address, I will send you MY bible, then we can talk.

          • bobnstuff

            My bible is written in Greek, which I took the time to learn how to read. I live what I preach. I raised my five children to be loving caring people. I’m not stupid enough to believe they never did the wrong thing. I have supported mothers so they could keep and raise their children, I have work to improve schools and because of my example my children are now doing the same. It’s Faith Active in Love. I don’t like abortions so I have worked to make them unneeded as much as one man can do. No law can stop abortions, they have never worked. You must change hearts to have real change and the actions of the Pro Lifers and the conservative movement will never change a heart, just harden them.

          • TexasSandy

            Are you kidding??? I am not aware of your Greek bible. But what I know of my God, THE GOD OF ALL CREATION!!! That is my God. He does not give any excuse to murder. Period. I hear you Bob. But, making access EASY for an abortion is nothing I am ever going to agree to as a solution to this problem. Ignorance is NO EXCUSE!!! Even a deaf, mute knows murder is wrong!!!! Oh boy…. Bye Bob!!!

          • bobnstuff

            The New Testament was written in Greek in case you didn’t know. You really need to read your bible instead of hitting people over the head with it. You might be surprised what you find.

          • TexasSandy

            your so cute. No Bob, if you feel hit over the head, then you need to get with God on that. Personal problem. No, I am not going to suggest I am familiar with any bible described to me in such vague description. My bible is in Greek……..Dig your way out Bob….Well, then you should, in no way be offended by my position. My position is THE position of God almighty!!! Father of all. Even those poor unborn, murdered children. No, God is no where in the business of abortion. Good night!!

          • I Seigel

            “My position is THE position of God almighty!!!” WOW! You sure are full of yourself! Would that be because you read the Bible? Which one? Greek Orthodox? Coptic Christian? King James? Old Testament – did you read it in Hebrew? Pick one, and THAT’S your position?

          • TexasSandy

            Your an Idiot!!! With nothing of value to add to this conversation. As much as you have gone up and down this page antagonizing everyone, you have yet to say one thing that makes any difference. Just do us all a favor and leave…

          • bobnstuff

            When you look at the numbers of abortions in our country a large number of those are spontaneous abortions, in fact 1 in 9 pregnancies end in miscarriages, a God given abortion. These are the hardest ones to deal with. Those we can do little to stop but we are almost are helpless stop the other abortions with laws as we are to stop miscarriages. Both types can be effected by good healthcare and education. Those are the only real tools we have. If you make abortions harder to get more women die from abortions done in places and by people you don’t want to think about.

          • Ken says

            Bob – again we are on the same page.

          • Ken says

            Bob – you did it again – well stated.

          • Ken says

            Sandy – are you an AI Troll – regardless of the site you are on the same words keep appearing – go in and reboot an updated program.

          • TexasSandy

            OH NOOOO!!! Does my consistency confound you??? See some of just aren’t like you witless Liberal. You are the troll!! Just trying to get people to react to your foolishness. Bye now!!! Oh, another redundant statement to YOU!!!! Get over it!!!

          • Ken says

            No Pogo – your limited AI does not confound me – it simply points to your limited experience and your inability to deal with the real World and the US Constitution.

          • TexasSandy

            You are a sad, pathetic human being who does not care about HUMAN LIFE. You are useless to society. Nothing to offer but ignorance!!! You Sir, are USELSS and patheitc. And all you can do is offer your very limited thoughts on really NOTHING!!! Limited experience??….. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! If you only knew!! Fool!!! Go troll somewhere more your speed, like the CARTOON Channel!!! OH NO, not the cartoon channel, you might tell the children God is an abortionist…..UGH!!! Ken, you are BORING!!! And, embarrassing yourself!! Bye Now!!! UGH!!!!

          • Ken says

            OMG – You and Hillary could ride side by side on your brooms – enjoy your ride.

          • TexasSandy

            Your comments make you NO LESS an idiot Ken. Just stop…. ugh!!! Idiot!!!

          • Ken says

            And you no less than a demented Zealot and Bigot.

          • Ken says

            Sandy – you must walk like a pogo stick.

          • TexasSandy

            Just like you shallow, empty liberals to make comment such as the one you so proudly posted…. UGH!!! Ignorance at its best!!! Bye now!!!!

      • Curtis Edwards

        Ken if the female wants to and the male wants to it is called consensual. If the female does not want to and the male does and forces himself on her, it is sexual assault. Unless drugs are used or it is forced, the guy is not succeeding unless she agrees.

        • Ken says

          That wasn’t the point – a man is just as responsible as the woman. As a man sex is a short lived pleasurable thing and ends there – if there is conception it is a different story for a woman. It is her body and her life and a decision between her and her Doctor.

          • TexasSandy

            You are an idiot with nothing to offer. Bye now!!!

    • I Seigel

      Hey Sandy,
      What do you think of ISIS and Syria? Are you a supporter of Trump and Cruz, that we carpet-bomb them to hell?

      • TexasSandy

        If it is them or us???? Bomb away!!! Are you comparing the un-necessary MURDER OF INNOCENT BABIES to a religion that propagates nothing but murder and hate? Are you talking about the people in the Middle East that birth their children then immediately indoctrinate them into a firm mind of HATE toward us? You mean the ones that are beheading my Christian brother and Sisters? Yes!!! I am saying eliminate them as quickly as possible!!!! I am also saying NOT to bring them HERE!!!! Not one!!! TRUMP 2016!!!

        • KT

          And they sexually torture their own young boys & sell them into sex trafficking…….which is horrible for these children!!! Woe to those!

        • I Seigel

          Ah OK! So you’re for carpet-bombing the f%$k out of those people, killing lots of innocent civilians in the process. They’re lives aren’t really all that important, since they’re not Christians. Only American white Christian fetuses shouldn’t be protected. Got it.

          • TexasSandy

            Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Your an idiot. This is comments on the Supreme Courts decision on ABORTION in TEXAS!!! Are you lost??? LOL!! Just stop!! I think it is despicable that the ENTIRE WORLD turned a blind eye to what was going on in Syria! Absolutely NO EXCUSE for allowing so many to be killed, murdered VIOLENTLY, RELENTLESSLY driven from their home land!!! Who do you think allowed this to happen? Your MUSLIM loving president??? He did nothing!! But, he sure is racing to bring them here. Those that have perpetrated such horrible murders. ISIS, are now the only ones in those areas!!! They have run all the people that lived there out!! So bomb um!! Everyone of of them!! Now, can we get back to the topic at hand? If not, move on!!!! You are slow and boring!!!

          • bobnstuff

            So you also support gun control, right! Look at how many children die from guns. Do those live matter to you?

          • TexasSandy

            We are talking about ABORTION Bob!!! Stay to task….

          • bobnstuff

            No we are talking dead babies from what you are saying. Is killing then before they are people any different then shooting them? If you want to talk about fetus, which are not even formed into babies I can do that but so must you. When you call them babies you have given the life on their own, is it different before birth then after?

          • TexasSandy

            BORING BOB!!! You are ill informed and boring!!! Bye Bob!!! Why don’t YOU get up and go do something to help all these kids? Go teach the parents what makes babies!!! Please……By the way, I have had so much fun with you Bob!!! Gonna go watch the grass grow. So much more productive and entertaining!!! TRUMP 2016!!!!

          • bobnstuff

            Trump, Goldwater all over again.

          • TexasSandy

            Better than another Clinton Watergate!!! Wait, they are all dead!!!! Ummmmmmmm……..

          • bobnstuff

            The difference between Watergate and the Clinton is Nixon really did something. He got caught. The republicans have been trying to nail the Clinton’s for years and have spent millions and millions of our money to come up empty. The most they have come up with is she had her own email server. This is her crime, No proof it was hacked and in fact it was likely more secure the the governments. Bill got caught doing something that was over looked when at least 9 other presidents did it and a whole lot more. If you read the reports, the real facts instead of the ones with the spine you find that the most you can say they didn’t always use good judgement.

          • I Seigel

            And now the Trey Gowdy Anything to Bury Hillary Benghazi Committee just released their Benghazi report, and found nothing to blame Clinton on. They blamed the military!

          • TexasSandy

            Bob, you lost me on this comment. I can see you really do not stand on any morals. You may have some, but you don’t stand for them. SAD!! The Clinton’s have been sooooo corrupt for so long…. Even your own Party choose a community organizer over her!!!! And, how did that work out??? Please!!!!

          • bobnstuff

            Trump has Mob connections and has paid fines for money laundering. He is being sued for fraud and you are complaining about Clinton. Trump is on wife number three because he keeps cheating on them. Not only is he a hound dog but he brags about it. Trump has cheated thousands of business associates and clients over the years. Non of this is speculation, it’s all in the court records or he has told us himself. As I have said I’m going for the lesser of two evils.

          • TexasSandy

            If you are truly going to vote for the LESSER evil, then you must vote for TRUMP!!!!! Hillary is PURE EVIL!!! Go ahead little sheep….Head on in to the slaughter…..Done with you Bob!!

          • TexasSandy

            You are wrong!!! I will never go there with anyone on that. Such a horrible argument. The moment of conception is when a BABY begins to form in the mother’s womb….Period!!! Don’t do that Bob. At moments you sound very reasonable…..Then, you go off the deep end with fetus vs baby…..NOOOOOO WAYYY Bob!!!

          • bobnstuff

            Ok, now that we have agreed that is a baby from the start we can agree that if we are going to protect it in the womb we can’t stop at birth. When was the last time you saw people protesting for better child care. We get the Pro Life people out every few weeks around here but no one seems to care what happens after birth. My point is you must show value to a life always and just getting them born is the easy part, I have had a very interesting life and been involve in a wide range of things. I have been blessed with chances to serve people and see parts of peoples live that most miss. Most of all I have seen the good in people and believe that most people really do want to do the right thing or wish they could. I have seen people who have had abortions and never missed a beat but deep down they know they had missed a chance to do the right thing. Instead of trying to make laws to stop them from making a mistake we need to make it easier for them to do the right thing. We need to rebuild our world were people are valued above things. You say you are doing your best to serve others and i thank you for that, now we need a national or even world wide movement to change others hearts so the can be free to do the right thing.

          • TexasSandy

            I am locked and loaded BOB!!! Don’t get caught in my house uninvited….. What happened in Florida, would not happen here. And, I want every responsible gun owner to have the same open carry law in their state as well!!! Good people saving lives!!!!

          • bobnstuff

            What happened in Florida would not have happened had he been stopped from buying a semi automatic with a high-capacity magazine. Do you think he could have killed all toughs people with a six shooter? There are to many people out there who should never be allowed near a gun for me to want the armed on the streets.

          • TexasSandy

            Come on Bob!!! That MUSLIM MAN was brought in and QUESTIONED 3 times by the FBI!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD HIMSELF, the gun shop called the FBI….The FBI was given all the information they needed to prevent this. Yet, y’all look at us gun owners like it is our fault!!! That is insane!!! Stop it!! That gun didn’t get up and follow him to that club, then jump in his arms and start shooting itself!!!!!! We have those guns. Never going to apologies. If they have them, you better believe we are going to have them. It would be just like you peace lovers to get us all killed…. By example, of course….UGH!!! Rethink your thinking. I am not who you have to worry about. Neither are the MILLIONS of other (here we go again) RESPONSIBLE gun owners out there!!! If you got no problem killing the baby inside of you, what thought would you give to killing everyone else???? Same argument you are trying to make!!! Just stop!!!

          • bobnstuff

            Why do we permit unlimited rounds in our guns to kill people with but limit the number of rounds to hunt ducks to three? I have no problems with owning a gun, I have a few myself, I can even understand wanting a rifle like the AK 47, I don’t want one but I do want someday to have a M1 Grand. I understand wanting one. What we don’t need are the high capacity magazines. Also I think those gun owners should be licensed to be sure the aren’t crazy or drug dealers. There have been a number of studies that prove carrying a gun does not make you safer and that more guns does not make the country a safer place. I believe there are a large number of people like me and hopefully you that respect our weapons at use and store them safely. The problem is those other guys that do stupid things. I taught my son to shoot a year earlier then I had planned because I went to pick him up from a friends house and walked in and saw a loaded 9MM sitting on the coffee table and two 11 year old boy there without an adult. There are a lot of stupid people out their. I have no good answer but feel that we need to find a way to stop the killing. I have made the argument that laws will not stop abortions nor will shutting down the places that give them. In the same vain we need people to take a realistic and responsible view on guns and gun safety.

          • I Seigel

            And why do you think Obama ALONE could have stopped any slaughtering? Did you know that Obama asked Congress for PERMISSION to engage with ISIS and Syria, and the Congress STILL has not authorized any money to be spent? What exactly do you expect the Executive Branch and the Military to do without funds from Congress?

          • TexasSandy

            I said to myself….. Keep responding to this pathetic person who cannot stay on topic? Or, go watch the grass grow….. I’m gone!!! Growing grass wins out over dumb, boring lib any day!!!

          • TexasSandy

            By the way, I never mentioned the color of anything !!! RACIST!!!!

          • I Seigel

            Oh, you’re such a sly, cagey one. You don’t mention color, and so that means you’re not a racist? That’s like saying you never admitted to being lactose-intolerant, but you just stink up the room when you have an ice cream. You may not be a racist, but you’re sure an idiotic hypocrite.

          • TexasSandy

            Grass is growing!!! You are a RACIST!!!! I can smell you. YUCK!!!! Stop it…You are looking so small and pathetic…. ABORTION is the issue…..ding, ding, ding!!!!

          • I Seigel

            And apparently you’ve got the attention span of a gnat. I’m talking EXACTLY about abortion. You value Christian lives – dare I say white? – but not ALL lives. See the connection? No? I didn’t think so. You go smoke your growing grass now.

          • TexasSandy

            Last comment….You are so slowwwwwww…….. I value ALL life sooooo much that I am here on a page discussing ABORTION of ALL LIFE, NO MATTER WHAT COLOR. My Brothers and Sisters of ALL COLOR in Christ would be offended by your very small, little bitty thinking. We Christians come in all colors and walks of life. I didn’t say anything about any race or color. Here is a clue…..If you believe in the god of the quran, which is Muhammad, the opium smoking, child molester . And you are bent on killing, oh everyone in the world that doesn’t believe in that god. And they want to kill US, they must be eradicated immediately. Those killer have no place in AMERICA, or the WORLD. They cannot even exist peacefully in their own land. WHITE, BLACK, BROWN, YELLOW, PINK OR PURPLE!!! Whatever color you are, DO NOT HAVE MEANINGLESS, UNPROTECTED SEX, get pregnant, and KILL THAT BABY!!! Then, we won’t need this forum!!! Unless you want to talk about white supremacy??? Ugh…small thinkers…. Oh yes, I am now going to go smoke my grass….. Sooo funny!!! NOT!!!

    • Ken says

      Sandy – God does not have time to “help them all” He is busy doing abortions. The only “PERIOD” is the 2 periods you have after sex – the thank God periods.

  • helligusvart

    We so need President Trump to move the Supreme Court way to the right.

    • bobnstuff

      Right, Trump will sell the seat to the highest bidder. He isn’t and never has been a conservative. You stand a better chance getting a right leaning justice from Obama the Trump.

      • danstewart

        Man, are you ever stupid.

        • bobnstuff

          So you believe Trump is a conservative! and you call me stupid.

          • danstewart

            I don’t care what he is, he’s a thousand times better than Hillary. Also, what have conservatives gotten us in the last 8 years except giving o-butt-head everything he wanted.

          • bobnstuff

            So what did they give Obama other then a pain? He got one major bill through before the Republicans took the house. Since then they have done but block everything Obama asked for. The 113th congress was the next to the least productive congress in history and the 114th looks like it will be the least productive. Just what did they give him?

          • danstewart

            A blank check. How else could he double the deficit in 7.5 years.

          • bobnstuff

            No congress doubled the deficit, the President can not spend a dine with out them. Not one of Obama’s budgets ever were taken up buy congress. Every time Obama went for funding he was told no or given 10 cents on a dollar of what he asked for. Look at were the money is being spent, do any of these places look like thing Obama asked for?

        • TexasSandy

          Dan, please do not respond to this guy. He is just here to stir it up. He is an idiot. Not worth a response!!! I am with you!!!

  • Ramon1710 .

    “President Obama said in a statement that he was “pleased” with the outcome.”

    Narcissistic sadists are always happy when innocents suffer. Plus, he gets a special thrill from anything that helps break up the traditional family unit.

    Communist goal #40, as documented in “EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES”, Thursday, January 10, 1963:

    “40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.”

    • I Seigel

      I thought Communists were supposed to be evil and sneaky. It doesn’t seem very sneaky to me if they’ve written their goals down in a list that’s found on the internet. So who wrote these goals? Real leftist Communists, or just a bunch of fascist right-wingers?

      • Ramon1710 .

        No, you weren’t thinking at all, troll.

    • KT

      Agree! Very well put!

  • Richard Bagenstose

    abort the scotus and ofreako , chop them up and sell there body parts

    • bobnstuff

      Let them grow up so we can use them as punching bags for being born poor. We need more targets.

  • Curtis Edwards

    I am a male and cannot imagine the pain a woman has to bare giving child birth but so many do have children. I know for years there have been many couples that are childless and want to adopt children. I know that in the case of sexual assault, incest and when the life of the mother is at risk to give birth, a woman may go the direction of abortion. And for them, it should be a legal consideration, and between the woman and her doctor. Or between a female child, her parent and a doctor. But when in many of these cases of an unwanted pregnancy it is due to a lack of personal responsibility, protection or just plan sexual permissiveness, both the male and female should be held responsible for not using protection. The supreme court says they have a right to free abortions. Just maybe the taxpayers should have a right to refuse their taxes to be used to pay for it. Any way you look at it a life is affected or taken. That is my opinion. God help us all.

    • Ken says

      You’re right on the taxes. Taxpayers should not be taxed for paying for select abortions. It is a medical procedure and should be covered in every medical insurance policy.

    • I Seigel

      Taxpayer-funded abortions were outlawed during the Reagan administration. Maybe use some of your next tax refund and buy yourself a clue.

      • Curtis Edwards

        Well, I would love that, but have not had a tax refund in ten years. But, sure had to pay them. Make no difference what I say or what you say.

      • Curtis Edwards

        Seigal, you need to check out Plan Parenthood financial reports. They get millions of Federal Grants and contracts. That is money from taxes. You get a clue.

        • I Seigel

          The money doesn’t go for abortions. Geez! How many times has this been discussed already? You STILL don’t get it?

    • TexasSandy

      Curtis, I can see by what you have written here, YOU know better than to even respond to I Seigel….Just here to antagonize….. Silence him out!!! Thank you for sharing!!!! I totally agree!!!

      • Curtis Edwards

        Thank you Sandy. Well, he is the one that does not have the clue. Anyone can check out Planned Parenthood budgets and see they get taxpayers money thru Federal grants and contracts. That is the problem. To many people making negative comments just to hear themselves type..lol.

        • TexasSandy

          AMEN!!

  • danstewart

    Would someone show where in the Constitution it states a woman has the right to kill her baby. If she doesn’t want a baby, then don’t get pregnant.

    • I Seigel

      Where does it say in the Constitution that the State should come in between a woman and her doctor? Where does it say in the Constitution that the State makes medical decisions? Does it say ANYWHERE in the Constitution that we are a Christian nation?

      • danstewart

        We are, and GOD willing, always will be, a Christian nation. And you are what, a muslim?

        • bobnstuff

          Half the founding fathers were not Christians, and at the time of the revolution only 17% of the people went to church. Why is Christ not mentioned in our constitution?Our founding fathers went out of their way to not make us a Christian nation. I’m a Christian and I don’t want a Christian nation, I believe that you must be free to choose Christ or it means nothing.

          • danstewart

            To a certain point, I agree with you. Most of the founding fathers lived under british rule which forced a particular religion on everyone. They made the Constitution neutral to all religions. However, the ten commandments were placed at the supreme court & the capital. Since the advent of obummer, islam is being forced on the country.

          • I Seigel

            WHO placed the Ten Commandments at the Supreme Court and the Capitol? It’s not mandated in the Constitution. There is NO mention of the Ten Commandments in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. No mention of Christianity in those documents, either. “Under God” was only added to the Pledge of Allegiance in the 1950s. Only mention of God that I recall in all of government is when an officeholder is sworn in, with hand on bible. Did Obama insist on a Koran? No, I don’t believe he did.

          • danstewart

            I remember when “under GOD” was added, I was in high school. You are wrong about obummer & the Koran, in public he used a bible, in private, a Koran. What is your beef??

          • kathleen_smith121

            He also screwed up the part about “defending the constitution” and they said he “redid” that part later. Yeah! RIGHT!

          • I Seigel

            How do you know what he does in private? If you’ve got a photo, please let’s see it. If you’ve got hearsay, then you got nothin’

          • danstewart

            Why am I even talking to a bloody muslim ?? Bye bye dick head.

          • I Seigel

            It wouldn’t matter if I was Hindu, Sikh, Muslim or Irish Catholic. I disagree with you, and so your bigotry prevails. How nice. And how nice for you children.

          • bobnstuff

            Name one way Islam is being forced on you. I can tell you one, The Ten Commandments are part of Islam.

            http://www.islam101.com/religions/TenCommandments/tcQuran.htm

          • danstewart

            MALE BOVINE EXCREMENT !!!!!

          • kathleen_smith121

            The Ten commandments were around LONG before the Islamic nut case/ child abuser came along.

          • bobnstuff

            You know NOTHING about Islam.

          • Ken says

            Hey Bob – very well stated – I get so tired of the 9% Theocracy seekers trying to be Judge, Jury and the writers of the Law. They give Christians and Conservatives a bad name.

    • TexasSandy

      Don’t respond to I Seigel… He’s just trying to antagonize. Not worthy of a response!!

  • Shaymamma8

    So happy for the women of Texas, now you can make your own decisions about your own bodies!!

    • helligusvart

      Excuse me, honey child, this is not about women’s bodies, it’s about unborn babies’ bodies!! Perhaps if people, both male and female, decided to save sex for marriage, abortion would just about go the way of the dodo bird, since more than 80% (83% to be exact—National Abortion Federation) of abortions are done on unmarried women. But oh, silly me, how could I even suggest that people don’t…have…sex…? AAAAAAHHHH!!!

      • Shaymamma8

        Where did you get those facts? Married women have abortions all the time, some, more than once. The orphanages are full of unwanted children, the world doesn’t need any more. Instead of fighting for a fetus which can not live on its own, try fighting for a child who can live on its own… Talk about your hypocrites. Preborn – we love you, Born – FU, you are on your own!!!

        • bobnstuff

          The 82% is true but it’s not quit what you think. These aren’t young girls playing around in the back of cars. These are single head of households who in a lot of cases already have children. They choose abortions for economic reasons, they can’t deal with more children. Most are poor. It’s easy to say just don’t have sex but we are hard wired to do just that, it’s part of our DNA. http://www.womenscenter.com/abortion_stats.html
          Money is a very large reason for ending a pregnancy, they just can’t support another child. We as a society doesn’t make it any easier, we punish poor children. We also don’t help in preventing these pregnancies with education and birth control. The so called pro lifers close down the very places that do the educating. Most people who say they are pro life are really just pro birth, once the baby is out it’s on it’s own. If a women needs help with those children we call them names and treat them with shame. How many times have you heard a pro lifer talk about needing better daycare or better medical services for the poor. I’ve never heard it. What I hear is shut down the women’s health centers because the might do abortions. Cut welfare because it’s sin that got them into there problems and cut funds to schools food programs because someone who doesn’t deserve help might just get it. Starve the hundred to punish the one. Do I like people getting abortions hell no, but until we are ready to help those children and stop the reasons for the abortions we should walk away. Better to end the life then to kill it slowly because of our selfishness and lack of support. You can’t stop a disease but taking away the preventive medicine and blaming the person for getting sick.

          • TexasSandy

            bobnstuff….You are a pro at excusing every reason to MURDER a baby and NOT hold any of those men or women accountable. If you got too many kids….TAKE A PILL, WRAP IT UP!!! What would we know about what we would do? Y’all have been up to killing your babies for how long now???? I think Americans would quit going across the world to adopt a child if they could adopt here. But, we will not know until the MURDERING stops!! And, according to the PRO MURDER Supreme Court Liberals, you have it a lot easier in Texas now.

          • bobnstuff

            The only real reason most of those abortions happen is because of you. yes I said you and all those pro birthers out there that care only till the moment of birth. What have you done to help the children that are here now? Children that go to bed hungry in houses that you wouldn’t go near. They get to come home to empty houses because both parents are at work. They go to schools that are underfunded and failing to teach. They are punished for being poor. What have you done to fix these things. How many children have you helped? How many times have you looked down at someone for using food stamps? Also have you supported education so women understand how not to get pregnant? Do you support sex education in our schools. Just say no doesn’t work. Coming from a Christian home sure doesn’t, ask Sarah about that one. If you want an end to abortion you have to make keeping the baby the best choice for everyone. Be pro life.

          • TexasSandy

            You are so beyond arrogant. You do not know me. You do not know what I have done!!! Yes!!!! I have been in the trenches of the poor. I have volunteered for years in the public school syste, Oh yes, I know what it is to run home and get a pair of my sons shoes for a child I am mentoring that I just saw running around school with one shoe!!! I know what it is to simply hug a child that is being raised in poverty. I know what it is to look in the eyes of a child that is being raised in hard palces!! I know what it is to take a whole EXCURSION full of children who have never been to a movie or a bowling alley. YES BOB!!! I know what it is to teach a child to read, to help children that are sent to school that don’t even speak our language. I know what it is EVERY YEAR to buy hundreds of dollars of school supplies to deliver to the school to supply those that don’t have anything. I KNOW BOB!!! I know what it is to corporate participation to help schools and children. I know what it is to bring in pizza at lunch and sit with the kid that is eating alone, or consider themselves the outcast. I know what it is to bring the kids together and get to know each other. I know what it is to speak in love, dignity, and respect. I know what it is to have some of those kids live with me because their parents were a hot mess. The list goes on. Here is the one thing I can get you in probably 5 minutes….. At least 20 of those kids that will tell you I made a difference in their life!!! I have put my time, my money, and my life where my mouth is!!! YOU????

          • bobnstuff

            I’m very glad you understand what is needed and are doing it, praise God. Now we need to get our country do to do those very same things for all the people of our nation. You shouldn’t be out there alone and in fact much of what you do shouldn’t be needed if our government really cared about the people instead of the rich. My question for you is can you support someone for President that wouldn’t do those very same things for others. Would you support a person who takes an old persons home so they can build a parking lot for Limos? It sounds like you have heard much of what God has said we should do, can you take it to the next step. Can you help create nation that cares for our poor and supports the family with what ever is needed?

          • TexasSandy

            If Hillary Clinton is your suggestion for president? We have nothing more to share with each other. I’m not alone!!! There are a lot of us out here doing what we can do. And, we are doing a lot!!! The root of the problem started long ago with the decay of a woman’s value. Women decided being a mother and a home maker was just to demeaning. The Women’s Liberation movement was the beginning of the end of family, home. The moment women decided their real value was out in the work force and not at home raising, protecting, and teaching their children, that was the beginning of a slow slope downwards. Talk is cheap to many of the ladies we are talking about. No one told them how valuable or precious they are. They didn’t/don’t know. The music the youth listen to is nothing more than a mental brainwashing of the value of women. And, the women have drank the cool aid. Calling each other BITCHES. What is that??? I am in the trenches. The culprit is total ignorance and a bunch of liberal like minded thinkers that keep them in good company. All that company comforts them while they do their dirty deeds, and we get to pay for it. We get to have knowledge that little babies are being murder all over this Country, and NOT ONE PERSON IS SAYING THE RIGHT THING!!! I would rather a woman have to carry that child, and give it up for adoption, than kill it. I DO NOT want MORE government for the people who live only to receive their monthly stipend. You watch a video of an abortion. See if you feel the same way. You cannot negate PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. I will tell all my friends that work hand in hand with me, you said THANK YOU!!!!

          • bobnstuff

            I can’t vote for Trump, he is a slimy self centered rip off artist. Clinton was not my first, second or third choice but Trump was my very last. I have been watching Trump for a lot of years and he hasn’t gotten any better. I spend way to much time looking into things and even though there are things I don’t like about Clinton if given the choice it’s her or Johnson. We agree that much of the problems we have are because people don’t take responsibility for their actions. Look at Trumps life. over and over people have had to bail him out but never does he come right out and say I made a mistake. It’s never his fault. He has even said he has never asked God to forgive him. Is it a case that he believes he doesn’t make mistakes or is he not big enough to admit to them. Either way it’s not good. At least Hillary has admitted to having made mistakes, she also has spent a good part of her life serving others. Am I happy about voting for Hillary no but will I hold my nose and do it, yes most likely. With all the good people in our country why do we always get to pick the lesser of to evils.
            You bring up adoption, have you ever seen what they put a person through to adopt a child. My wife and I tried to adopt a child a few years back, he is mixed blood and he is related to our grandson. His mother is in jail for the next twenty years and his father is dead. We were turned down because we were to old and white, they felt he would do better with a black family. He is a year younger then the grandson we are raising. We had the house, the money, the love but they didn’t seem to believe that was enough. They also seem to work against getting the girls to give them up. The system and the society seems like at time all they want to do is punish these girls instead of helping them make the right choice.

          • charben47

            One on God’s side is a majority.

          • TexasSandy

            By the way Bob, had the parents of these children put half the time into their children they put into have more unprotected sex and other unwanted children, then we wouldn’t have the problems you so passionately wrote on…..UGH!!!! ACCOUNTABILITY…RESPONSIBILITY!!!!! By the way, it is not my responsibility to raise anyone else’s kids. YOU seem to be missing the point. A clear message to our children really does reap good results. Unfortunately, you people seem to think those of us who do live responsibly OWE YOU something. No, Bob, there are plenty of people that go through their whole life without murdering their babies. This issue is preventable!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!

      • I Seigel

        Might I suggest that you and all other taxpayers fully underwrite the cost of raising a child until the age of 21? If you’re not willing to do that, then don’t go around forcing “unfunded mandates” on others.

      • TexasSandy

        Please do not respond to I Seigel!!!Just here to antagonize. Silence him out!!! Not worthy of a response!!! I totally agree with you!!! I want shaymamma8 to watch an abortion, Hell, for all we know she is very familiar with the whole procedure of MURDER. Ignorance ABOUNDS!!!! No glory in MURDER!!!!

    • Cindy

      Does this include the responsibility of keeping their legs crossed instead of spread open and not killing the resulting child???? This is not about responsible adult women.

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