We choose the nominee, not the voters: Senior GOP official

by Matthew J. Belvedere  |  published on March 16, 2016

Political parties, not voters, choose their presidential nominees, a Republican convention rules member told CNBC, a day after GOP front-runner Donald Trump rolled up more big primary victories.

“The media has created the perception that the voters choose the nomination. That’s the conflict here,” Curly Haugland, an unbound GOP delegate from North Dakota, told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” on Wednesday. He even questioned why primaries and caucuses are held.

Haugland is one of 112 Republican delegates who are not required to cast their support for any one candidate because their states and territories don’t hold primaries or caucuses.

Even with Trump’s huge projected delegate haul in four state primaries Tuesday, the odds are increasing the billionaire businessman may not ultimately get the 1,237 delegates needed to claim the GOP nomination before the convention.

This could lead to a brokered convention, in which unbound delegates, like Haugland, could play a significant swing role on the first ballot to choose a nominee.

  • Vangie Martinez

    This could be the death of their political career if they do not listen to the voters.

  • Jim Crumpton

    This is like communism, they tell you what they are going to do and you have no say so. They want to run the country without you having any say so in it.

  • 7papa7

    This is the problem with the entire process. It should be simplified to everybody who votes makes the choice. If one of the folks gets 100 votes and the other one gets 101 then the person with the 101 wins. That should be simple. The people need to get back in control. In the general election it should be done the same way on a state by state basis and the one who wins the most states wins the election. This is not rocket science folks.

  • dawntoo

    They have a choice: Trump as the candidate or Trumps supporters do not vote. Time to get on board with Trump.

  • bones1941

    Your days are over you don’t decide a damn thing this time.You better have plenty of protection at the convention for the Estabishment GOP.

  • bones1941

    If you don’t except the person we put up with the delegates the GOP is done !
    There will be a third party that will bury you Idiots and the Democrats !

  • Original Anna

    I was always under the impression that the Republican Party members picked the person running for President. Just why are we members if that is not the case. And why are we bothering to vote. Do we need a new party that gives its members the right to pick who is their leader? Gees.

  • clem

    The DemocRATS learned long ago that a bullet buys a lot of loyalty, and they are the anti firearm party. The GOP haven’t learned by watching the opposition. It is better to learn from someone else’s mistakes than those of your own. “It is time to feed the hogs.”

  • David in MA

    “We choose the nominee, not the voters: Senior GOP official”
    NOT if America does write-in’s.

  • Mary Eleanor Urso

    Wow! Curly really was one of the Stooges. These people honestly don’t get it. I’m beginning to think one needs to take stupid pills to become a Republican. Maybe it’s time for the creation of a new party… say the Constitutionalist Party?

    • used_to_be_a_liberal

      or the American First, actually I like yours better

    • Ramon1710 .

      There is a Constitution Party. But most people ignore it and vote Tweedle-Dee or Tweedle-Dumb.

      • Mary Eleanor Urso

        Please enlighten me. I would love to know more. Maybe it’s time to help them get more recognition and really get of the ground and get going. I like many, many others, am totally FED UP!

        • Ramon1710 .

          http://www.constitutionparty.com site is best for more info.
          I’ve voted for them several times, when I didn’t feel I had to play the best odds between two evils.

          • Mary Eleanor Urso

            Thanks so much! I am already looking at the article on their web site about the pluses and minuses of the “traditional” candidates.
            Long live the Constitution!!!

  • Roadmantoo

    I think Haugland needs to climb back under that rock from whence he came. If I were in his area of N. Dakota he would be voting at all. This stupid asshole is the whole reason why us Americans For Trump are pissed off, these elites think they are so high and mighty that they don’t answer to anyone. PLEASE, someone in this assholes city go see him and let him know why he is not in charge.

  • ScranunSlim

    “Are you a FLAKE?”
    – Fox Phony Chris Wallace to
    Congresswoman Michelle Bachman

    Now with a deficit close to $20 TRILLION, let’s see if Wallace asks the same question of either of the “Free Stuff” geriatric-crats – Grandma Alinsky or Bolshevik Bernie.

  • ScranunSlim

    Ahhhh yes, the acumen and political savvy that gave us TODD “Legitimate Rape” AKIN

  • Athanasios1

    Precisely the type of thinking that will put Hillary in the White House and finally put an end to the GOP Thank God.

    • panchoVilladeltren

      Maybe Hillary will adopt you, she likes punks like you so bill can play.

      • Athanasios1

        You’re the bitch…she will adopt you.

        • panchoVilladeltren

          So you are in denial that that you are a ‘HO’?

  • Ronney

    You are exactly correct, does anyone know who the fuck these people are, they need to be tracked down and their doors knocked on. I got to research this good post

  • Carolyn

    If the GOP insists on putting “their choice” in as the Republican nominee and defy who we the people have elected, then I will write Trump’s name in the “other” box, as I’m sure a majority of the Trump supporters will do, an that will guarantee that Clinton gets elected. And if that happens the Republican party deserves what it gets – a riot! I will change my party to be independent and will never vote for a Republican again! it is so sad that our choices have to be either two communist socialists on the Democrat side or a “yes” man who will “do nothing” for the people on the Republican side. Both parties need to be eliminate and two new parties create – the Conservative party an the Liberal party. We would certainly get more done that way.

  • Jimh77

    We need a convention of states. This Country politicians are way to corrupt. Bernie Sanders is 100% correct America needs a revolution. Trump says it a different way. The GOP must be dissolved as it is now, It has not represented the people for a long time and it is time to bury the GOP. We need a real revolution or the convention of states and reset to the beginning. Real People representing the American People, anything less is an act of war.

    • Jon Ockunzzi

      GO TRUMP !!!

  • crazyfreddie

    THE GOP CAN KISS MY AMERICAN AZZ

  • loony1975

    Sorry, but WE THE PEOPLE choose OUR president, you can choose whatever nominee you want, BUT THE ULTIMATE DECISION IS OURS…

    • heroay

      Both R&D Commie-tties are run by the SAME rapine world mafia. Check the NAMES of their ‘rulers’. It is time to show these squatter bastards WHOSE country this REPUBLIC is for… 148+ Million Pixxed Americans, with some 328+ Million guns, and 10-20 Billion bullets, is NO toy to play with… Come and GET IT, (S)pawns (O)f (B)aal (s)!!

      • Marilyn

        Very strange!

        • Jon Ockunzzi

          In a very nice way.

        • heroay

          “strange!”… Rather, HORRID. Read the whole story…

          BLOOD RITUAL:
          ● Anti-Semitic fresco causes uproar in Poland – (tinyurl dot com/o2hmto6)
          ● Blood Passover – The Jews of Europe and Ritual Murder – (Ariel Toaff)
          ● Child Blood Ritual to Adrammelech and Anammelech by Sepharvaim – (2 Kings 17:31)
          ● Child Blood Ritual to Molech – (pantheon dot org/articles/g/gehenna.html)
          ● Jewish Ritual Murder – (Arnold Leese)
          ● Mullins New History Of The Jews – 1968 – (jrbooksonline dot com/PDF_Books/MULLINSEustace-Mullins_New_History_Of_The_Jews-1968.pdf)
          ● Ritual Murders – (Vladimir Ivanovich Dahl)
          ● The Excavation of Gezer – R.A.S. Macalister – Bodies of sacrificed young children are found in every strata of jewish remains from earliest times – (archive dot org/download/cu31924084684038/cu31924084684038.pdf)
          ● The History of Jewish Human Sacrifice – (Willie Martin)
          ● The Worship Of Yahweh (Yahu) [Yahoo] As A Bull – (atkinslightquest dot com/Documents/Religion/Hebrew-Myths/Worship-of-Yahweh-as-a-Bull.htm
          ● Yahweh And The Gods Of CANAAN – (William Foxwell Albright, Doubleday, 1968, p. 197)

    • cutterguy

      I wish you were correct

  • Michael

    If the GOP thinks they have the final say in who is the presidential nominee, we no longer need or want the GOP. OUR votes matter and we can start using them in a way the GOP will regret.

    • Marilyn

      Do the Democrats do the same?

      • Jon Ockunzzi

        No. The Democrats are socialists.

  • Jim Terio

    It is precisely this form of snotty arrogance that disgusts and drives Americans to actively hate the federal government on BOTH sides of the aisle. Instead of being our duly elected representatives, these slimy b@stards have become an elite band of scum looking out only for their own interests . The GOP is committing suicide and as a former Republican turned fierce Independent, I say good riddance. I also believe time is ripe for Americans to toss the Liberal-Marxist-Progressive-Democrats out on their collective butts. Enough is enough.

  • Rodger K. Shull

    An it is TIME that, we the USA CITIZENS, VOTE of who we want in the SUPREME COURT , an who we want to run for PRESIDENT, not these lazy asses, that have all ready been voted in , an on LIES an FALSE PROMISES, if these OVER PAID UNDER WORKED CORRUPT ELECTED OFFICIALS, pick, an over ride our popular vote, then why in the hell even have one, ????, the ” POLITICAL SLIME “

  • Deanna Sharp

    in other wards your teling me that politcal parties decide who is the one they will runn and screw the voters who you give no rights to. You hear that Trump so like many of the voters I say screw you dudes we are the people who own this country and we paid a price that is not redeemable the ancestry who fought in all the wars to keep america free from dictators joke the poltlcal parties we winnnnnnnnnnn Donald is our choice so watch him winnnnnnnnnnnn

  • horseridingplains

    Above is a political slime ball that thinks he also is above the law and the people–how can this person be removed from the delegation—the bureaucrats need to be stopped

  • Rick

    Let them do it, That will end the Republican Party it will be just like 2012 here’s your candidate like it or leave it. if that happens the people have had it!!!!

  • Liz EntrEkin

    Then WHY should we have Political Parties? I say get rid of them along with Electorial College and have populace vote.! If parties do not vote the will of party members then there is no need for parties.

  • parthenon1

    I suggest these party leaders and hangers-on better remember we the people choose the people who are our candidates, then our national office holders and even the party officials the latter by being ousted by the people. Otherwise we will be in another Civil War Conservatives against Liberals and that is the wrong group to be making war against each other it should be the country against Hillary !

  • paulyz

    Who will ever bother running for the Presidency again then if the People don’t matter? THIS is tyranny. If this happens, Hillary will be President & ensure 1 Party, Socialist Rule forever. Trump & Cruz can screw the Establishment that hates them both, by joining together!

  • Carl Pyzowski

    I thought that we vote for who we want and then he is elected. Not in the big government system where those in power and make the laws can change them at will to keep themselves in power. There will be a revolution soon. Don’t know when but soon. Hard working people are getting sock and tired of sending their hard earned money to Washington to be spent as they choose and still rack up 20 trillion in debt to pass on to our grandchildren. Our Democrat friends are saying (Hillary) Break down the barriers, create more jobs give to the poor and lazy, while our vice president just cost us over 500,000 dollars for a one day visit to Mexico and probably didn’t even know why he was there. Our president has spent more money on vacations than a thousand households earn in a year. Yea, give more money to the government so they can waste it. Trump made his money by smart ideas and making great deals. When was the last time this country made a great deal that benefited us? Oh maybe the Iran deal made by a Woodstock rabble-rouser. Now they have the money to produce ballistic missiles. Great Deal!! Free College for everyone! Yea, Bernie! Add more money to the debt! Let’s give free education to illegals while I’m seventy-one years old and still paying for my son’s college education. What a bunch of BS. The problem is that the schools have indoctrinated the youth to think that everything is an entitlement. And the other half of the students that they don’t have to work. It is the government’s responsibility to support you on welfare. And those in power are very happy to give our hard earned money to laggards and illegals in return for votes to keep them eating high on the hog like 500,000 dollars for a one day trip to Mexico. Wake up America. This has gone on too long. Make this, as Huckabee says a revolution with ballots before it becomes as he says a revolution with bullets. Trump made his money. He wasn’t given his money by the people who pay taxes like the congressmen and senators. They criticize him for his success, but what have they done to help this country? Put it into 20 trillion dollars debt with false promises and out right lies. (Hillary) Get back to basics in our families, government, schools and churches. Stop the free give away that only drive us down and keep us dependent upon a corrupt system. I am not racist. I know many great whites, Blacks, Hispanics, Jews and Muslims. There are good an bad in all races. It is not the color of your skin or the religion you follow that makes you good or bad. It is who you are and how you live your life. We have had forty or fifty years of BS from our elected officials. They have done us great harm. Give someone else a chance and stand behind him and help him. Whether Trump, Cruz or Kasich. Stop the give away for vote system and get back to work.

    • Kristin Leavitt

      Trump inherited his money, idiot – from a father who largely made it building New York semi-slum housing projects. And the mighty Donald has managed to lose significant portions of his inheritance in frankly piss-poor business dealings. The man is spoiled, arrogant, and so used to having money of his own that he truly has very little appreciation of the working man’s [or woman’s] daily grind and challenges. What he does know – apparently always has known – is how to talk a good game and rev people up for his own purposes with rhetoric that makes it sound like their purposes.

      • Carl Pyzowski

        Just the fact that you used the word idiot proves to me that you are not worth answering. (Not directed to you) I wonder if the elite in Washington got elected because their families had money and gave it to them. Romney, Bush, Union money for O’Bama. etc. etc. I suppose that Hillary isn’t arrogant nor her husband. I am sure that the politicians in Washington are aware of the working mans, woman’s grind. I’m 71 and still working to pay my taxes to the elite politicians sitting in their big offices making under the table deals with lobbyists and other politicians. So I’m very much aware of the working grind. My point is, give someone else a chance. We have nothing to lose. We have already lost with these bozos and their empty promises. I’d vote for Donald Duck or Micky Mouse rather than another Democrat or Republican of the same ilk as we have now.

        • roy paul shields

          Money? The Trumps made their fortune working for it. The Clintons? The lieing, cheating, sneaking beggers of foriegn money to enrichen their financial illegal coffer. Underneath their political cloak the Clintons are a danger to America. Prison for Willy and his lieing deceitful old hag.

  • sue lenhart

    The American people want and need to be heard; unfortunately, the situation has reached a crisis point. Enter Mr. Trump. Whether he is an undercover red herring/fox in sheep’s clothing or the real deal, his popularity only underscores the truth that the American people are not going to be taken advantage of/shut out any more. Establishment, take note. Take us seriously now, or you will be forced to do it later. The sooner you wise up and do what needs to be done, the better off we all are.

  • Robert Early

    This scumbag, CURLY HAUGLAND, is exactly the type I want to personally hang; along with all who think like him. I am armed and ready for revolution.

  • ADRoberts

    These arrogant Establishment Republicans are confident that no one will call their bluff and start a third party. They ARE the elite and are determined to be in control as they were in 08 and 12. McCain and Romney were their pick as they were going along with the elite plan to put Obama in office.
    Folks, they have taken control of our government. It is now out of our hands. Don’t forget WHO these people are, including Haugland, when anarchy comes.
    They ARE the ones who are working to bring America down. And they will don so by causing chaos.
    God help us.

    • roy paul shields

      God helps those that are willing to help themselves. Trump is the only canidate that is not bought and paid for by the political machines and special interest enemies. Vote Donald Trump and save America. Or a cleansing revolution. Semper Fi. 51-56 GOD BLESS AMERICA

      • ADRoberts

        The first sentence is NOT sound doctrine and is not from the Bible. But those who quote it often don’t know or care. It is a tool of argument and not valid. It is for those who do not trust God and are trying to motivate actions that others might not want to do. LOL
        Trump; IS bought and paid for. His master is MONEY. and the one who masters money, the devil. You can tell that by his filthy language.
        Now you want to save America. Then read II Chronicles 7:14. One single verse that tells you what God has promised to do.
        And IF you are not on God’s side, no amount of planning, power, and effort will win.

        • roy paul shields

          I wasn’t quoting sound doctrine; It is what I believe. My grandmother was a woman minister; I am not a bible toter shouting “Paise The Lord’ to everyone; But my life would be meaningless without my closeness with my Higher Power God. For those of us that believe Our Lord is Almighty; We may travel in different directions; But all in the hope of going to Heaven. Save America, vote Donald Trump. GOD BLESS AMERICA

          • ADRoberts

            “Whosoever is ashamed of Me and My Words, of him shall the Son of Man be ashamed, when He comes in His own glory…….”
            And then there is the Church of Laodicea. They also were careful not to upset anyone by remaining very calm and not getting excited about serving God. Look up what John says will happen to the Church of Laodicea.
            ANd then tell me how proud you are that you do not “PRAISE THE LORD” when you get a chance

          • roy paul shields

            ADR; I have a large pool with an attatched sauna or Jacuzi of which I go in every night. The first thing I do once I get settled into the heat; I look up and thank God; And if neccessary; Say a prayer for a relative, friend or someone or somthing I know is needy. That is part of my day winding down. I don’t say “I pray the Lord; But I often thank my Higher Power, GOD. Stay warm and dry !!!!!!!!!

  • Wounded Warrior

    Party “robots” like Curly Haugland actually don’t understand that they are the cause of the problem and definitely not the solution. People are sick and tired of both corrupt political parties who actually believe they know better than their own voters what is good for them. If I were Donald Trump, I’d probably say “Curly is probably bald anyway!”; but I try to be civil. “Heads will roll.” “Pass the baskets!”

    • ADRoberts

      They understand. It is just that their attitude is that we are stupid and they, THE ELITE, are the only ones qualified to run anything. ANd they have the backing of CFR and the Bilderbergs to PROVE that they are superior.
      You want to be free of the slavery they have in mind for you? Turn to II Chronicles 7:14. Put God back in the picture by acknowledging that He is God and that we are His people.
      Human efforts will not prevail against the elite. WHY? They are serving satan and the only one powerful enough to overcome them and him is God.

      • Wounded Warrior

        Amen ADRoberts: I fully concur with 2Chronicles7:14. As a believer first, I think we need to “be right with God” and be sure that our own motives line up with the admonition of Jesus to be “salt and light.”

        • ADRoberts

          Only two options as we enter the NIGHT of the Ten Virgins. All were ready to go to heaven when he night began. Only five made it. So much for “security of the believer”.

  • joleenworden

    Curly needs to shut up. With any luck at all Trump will get to the magic number and all this haggling can stop. It is time to focus on the real enemy which is Hillary, not Trump. Wake up Curly. You guys picked the losers McCain and Romney. This time the voters are picking a winner.

    • ADRoberts

      Right now, a lot of voters are showing just how gullible they can be. Trump is a fake. And all that he has SAID is just words. Not even his claim of bringing jobs back to America. He could do that right now with all of HIS companies that are overseas. HE TOOK THEM THERE.
      And now you think he is going to DO something. He could be doing it right now but ISN’T. THat SHOULD tell you loads. He is conning you.

      • gerald Hughes

        Stick it RINO go play in traffice, we are going to dump all of you rinos this time, one way or another, quit ahead jerk

        • ADRoberts

          If I am anything, I am not a RINO. But I guess you could not think of another way to insult me. But it is so lacking in reality that their is only disgust that you would do such a thing. It is like me calling you a woman for using fault reasoning.

    • roy paul shields

      Good post Joleen; TRUMP IS THE ONLY CANIDATE RUNNING THAT IS NOT BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE POLITICAL MACHINES AND SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS which are all afraid of Donald Trump because they can’t buy him or order him what to do. True Americans, real Americans are voting for a true American, Donald Trump. Save America, votre Donald Trump.

  • danstewart

    Establishment repubs & dems alike, belong in gitmo.

  • Seedman

    With the field narrowed to three, a candidate will emerge who consistently receives more than fifty per cent of the vote. Arizona and Utah will set a trend for the eventual nominee.

  • jlcham

    This is exactly the “political slime” Trump is fighting. Whether it is GOP or Dems, it has got to stop and the voice of the people have to be heard. We may have a revolution like the French revolution where we cut off the heads of the bureaucrats and the DC elite. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!

    • ADRoberts

      You still don’t get it. Trump is a RED HERRING. He is a liberal Democrat, pretending to be conservative. And he has been planning this since before Obama got into office. The elite know that America is sick of liberal socialists and their actions are killing us. So they have got to find a way to take away the only evident opposition by sending over a Trojan Horse.
      And you are all falling for it.

      • jlcham

        Is your head up so far you can’t see what’s going on? Who would you rather have, HC? The elites are the very ones that are trying to dump Trump. Why would they dump their own man?

        • rockcut

          I would take Hillary over Trump in a New York heart beat.

          • Michael

            And you’re a complete idiot. Hillary needs to be in Gitmo, along with Obama.

          • rockcut

            Thank you for such a brain washed reply. But, I guess that comes with the result of watching Fox News …..;LOL

          • Jean Langford M.

            SON….SHIT IS BRIGHTER THAN YOU.

          • rockcut

            Thanks for the 3rd grade bully answer. I am so proud of you. I bet you support Trump.

          • Jean Langford M.

            YEAH..THAT’S RIGHT SUNSHINE…i FOUGHT IN THE VIETNAM WAR AND SOME OTHER WARS TOO…YOU AND THAT PIECE OF SHIT HILLERY “CLITON”….ARE WHY WE ARE IN SUCH BAD SHAPE AS A NATION…”BUMBOCRAP…..”

          • rockcut

            Back off bully, I served 22 yrs in the USAF and also worked many years with a national military organization. You can have your opinion, however that does not give you the right to act like a 3rd grade bully on the school yard.

          • Jean Langford M.

            FUCK OFF PAL….YOU SHED NO BLOOD FOR THE CAUSE…BULLY YOUR ASS…YOU CAN NOT HANDLE REALITY…YOUR GETTING YOUR ASS KICKED IN THE POLLS ALONG WITH YOUR DUMB SHIT IDEOLOGY…WAKE THE FUCK UP KILLER. BACK OFF YOUR ASS.

          • rockcut

            The reality you present is on the level of a school yard bully with a very foul mouth. I suggest you call the VA and get an appointment for that anger. It is easy to spot with the way you try to communicate.

          • Jean Langford M.

            PISS OFF PAL….YOU DON’T LIKE MY RETORTS…DON’T BOTHER READING THEM…YOUR THE THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO SEE THE PSYCHIATRIST…YOU HAVE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF PSYCHOSIS…GET THERE SOON BEFORE REALITY SWALLOWS YOU WHOLE…..LOL….LOL….

          • rockcut

            I cannot believe how weak your replies are to me. I will take pity on you and back off since you are now out and out yelling like a mad man when you reply to me. My word you are such a child.

          • Jean Langford M.

            AND YOUR A CHICKEN SHIT IDIOT….HAVE A NICE A MILLENNIUM…..SHOULD YOU LIVE SO LONG…AS TO YELLING…I WAS WOUNDED 4 TIMES….ONE OF THE WOUNDS EFFECTED MY EYE SIGHT…MAGNIFICATION IN CAPS HELPS….DON’T WORRY ASS HOLE…MY INTELLECT IS JUST FINE…..ON THE OTHER HAND DUMB ASS YOU NEED A MOTHER TO TEACH YOU HOW TO RECOGNIZE REALITY….ADIOS DUMMY.

          • rockcut

            Out of respect for your service, I am discontinuing this dialog with you. I see it is upsetting you too much. Calm down.

          • Jean Langford M.

            FUCK OFF DUMMY…YOU SAID THAT TWICE YOUR DISCONTINUING DISCOURSE…YOU DON’T REMEMBER WHAT YOU POST?…YOUR A IDIOT…PISS OFF..YOU DON’T UP SET ME…YOUR EXISTENCE IS SO IRRELEVANT IT COULDN’T…I JUST RETORT TO YOUR INANE POSTS….PISS OFF DUMMY….BEING REDUNDANT NOW.

          • dfinch

            PTSD?

          • Athanasios1

            Did you bomb innocent people like shithead McANUS?

          • panchoVilladeltren

            So you are a draft dodging Bi#*ch? Worthless sewage.

          • Athanasios1

            Go fuck yourself. You know it all cock suckers destroyed America.

          • panchoVilladeltren

            Sorry, no can do. I am at the moment with your Mother, making you a sibling. Your sister is next.

          • Athanasios1

            No sister…no mother. Proof positive that you are fucking yourself.

          • panchoVilladeltren

            And you are still sucking, piece of garbage.

          • crazyfreddie

            SAW U IN THE CHOW HALL > THAT IS WHY WE DID NOT EAT THAT DAY

          • Carolyn

            Oh like you are doing?

          • americanpatriot

            your full of shit you were never in the usaf…if you were you wouldn’t be so stupid

          • rockcut

            You cannot wish away that I did serve 22 years in the USAF./ What silly statement.

          • dfinch

            flagged

          • Carolyn

            You Liberals are the bullies.

          • rockcut

            I guess you did not read the posts to me. There content was content of a bully and I am not impressed.

          • James Bowser

            You are so correct. Do you see us on a liberal post? (Democrat) no, we are here talking about our own political party. It is the same thing that happened in Chicago. The radical dumbocraps can’t get any attention on their own. So they go to where Trump or his supporters are.

          • americanpatriot

            stupid boy

          • David in MA

            it was Reno.

          • heroay

            Do NOT we EVER forget, that crazzy b*tch gave the order to attack the Davidians in Waco TX… not Willi… and needs to pay for such crime… ALSO.

          • Athanasios1

            It was that other bitch, Janet Reno.

          • heroay

            Reno had NO authority to unleash the massacre at Waco; even threatened to expose the murderers if they insisted on blaming her. Willie had the authority, but Hillabeast seems to stand on that half-Rockefeller idiot since the beginning. You must download and pass along that Waco video online (was suppressed by ashkeNazi subversive YouTube)..

            CLINTONGATE:
            ● Waco – The Rules of Engagement – (twomovies dot net/watch_movie/Waco_The_Rules_of_Engagement)
            ● It Takes a Clinton to Murder a Village – (Robert Morrow)
            ● Hillary Ordered The Final Massacre At Waco – (tinyurl dot com/orjzspf)
            ● Hillary was absolutely cold blooded – (rense dot com/general80/hillms.htm)

            Waco was an early drive to disarm Americans, and a big distraction away from their early CHEMTRAIL poisoning of our air, soil, and water (and LUNGS), and disruption of our local rain season, for planned drought and famine. Failed criminals! Keep your guns loaded and build a CHEMBUSTER…

          • Athanasios1

            It was Hillary that had no authority to kill and burn those Christians. It was Janet Reno that acted. You are a liar…

          • heroay

            Paraphrasing ‘someone’ who just commented…:

            ‘To someone who can DISCERN, no explanation is necessary. To someone who cannot DISCERN, NO explanation is possible.’

            Or maybe you are TRYING to protect Hillabeast AND the other accomplices who covered up for her, Chucka Schuma and Joe Biden, just LIKE YOU??

            Here, swallow AGAIN, even if you choke in the process…

            CLINTONGATE:
            ● Waco – The Rules of Engagement – (twomovies dot net/watch_movie/Waco_The_Rules_of_Engagement)
            ● It Takes a Clinton to Murder a Village – (Robert Morrow)
            ● Hillary Ordered The Final Massacre At Waco – (http://tinyurl dot com/orjzspf)
            ● Hillary was absolutely cold blooded – (rense dot com/general80/hillms.htm)

          • Athanasios1

            Heroay, Hitlary had no authority to attack at Waco you whacko. It was Janet Reno that burned those men, women and children. Hitlary was responsiblle for the murder of Vincent Foster, the annihilation of our sons at Benghazi and a good part of the “Iran gets Nuclear weapons deal” finalized by asshole John Kerry.

          • heroay

            Hillabeast, under a Constitutional Republic, would be in jail (at least) for all her crimes, including the Waco Massacre. Instead, the ruling ashkeNazi mafia dares pretend to stick her in the Residency.

            ‘To someone who can READ, no explanation is necessary. To someone who cannot READ, NO explanation is possible.’

            CLINTONGATE:
            ● Waco – The Rules of Engagement – (twomovies dot net/watch_movie/Waco_The_Rules_of_Engagement)
            ● It Takes a Clinton to Murder a Village – (Robert Morrow)
            ● Hillary Ordered The Final Massacre At Waco – (http://tinyurl dot com/orjzspf)
            ● Hillary was absolutely cold blooded – (rense dot com/general80/hillms.htm)

          • Tom Farrell

            Do you REALLY think Old Lady Clinton cares about you or any other American? Just ask the families of the American’s that were murdered in Benghazi while she stood by and watched.

          • crazyfreddie

            UR CAN HAVE KILLER HILLARY

          • ScranunSlim

            Hillary Botox Sniperfire is an incomptent STIFF!

          • rockcut

            You miss the key word “Trump” I stand against Trump.

          • americanpatriot

            LEAVE AMERICA YOU ASSHOLE

          • rockcut

            What a childish request. I have as much a right to be an American as you do. Grow up !

          • gerald Hughes

            Who cares, where you stand?
            Shortly aftr Trump takes office, He will resicnd all of Obama’s exec orders, he will have Clinton, Obam, Holdser, Lerner Lisa Jackson, Lyinch all in front of Grand jury.
            Within 180 days you liberal dem bloodsuckers will lose the welfare and food stamps, we look forward to watch you garbage get a job or starve.

          • rockcut

            What hateful vomit you spit out in your post. Nothing that makes sense, just school yard nonsense.

          • gerald Hughes

            Don’t like it liberal dem bloodsucking leech, feel free to KMA

            Not hateful, truthful you liberal scum still think that this is about politics.

          • rockcut

            I smile at your school yard bully response to life. You think you can g thru life spouting hateful nonsense and call it the truth. You are nothing but hot air. Now go back to your cage.

          • gerald Hughes

            You haven’t seen hateful yet, liberal dem bloodsucking parasite, soon, it’s work or starve leech.

          • rockcut

            What a arm chair bully you are with your childish rants. You put on display in writing a mind filled with confusion, hate, and nonsense. Thanks for showing what you are to me. Get help !

          • gerald Hughes

            uh huh, buy weapons and kevlar, liberal dem bloodsucker.
            You really think that all you scum have to do is keep talking and voting don’t you?
            The decent people are sick of you feces, soon, your life is not going to be any fun.

          • rockcut

            Wow, you talk like a grade school yard bully and what you are saying makes no sense. Grow up the world ins not black and white and Americans that do not happen to agree with you are not scum and you sorry are not decent and your post proves it.

          • gerald Hughes

            You liberal dem bloodsuckers are not Americans, you are low life scum, without merit worth, value, morals honor or integrity.
            You scum will destroy the last best chance of mankind on this planet to live free.
            The disgusting part, you fing feces will do it for a few bucks a week in handouts.
            Very soon, we will separate ourselves from you ersatz life forms. close our borders, station marksmen there and shoot anything crossing our borders illegally.
            Then we will kick back and watch as you ticks starve to death.

          • rockcut

            You are a very hateful self indulged human being trying to act tough and all you do is bring shame on you. You view of the world is seriously flawed. You need help. I suggest you try to get back to reality and get your anger under control.

          • gerald Hughes

            My view of the world is all wrong??
            hateful yeas I am.
            We cordially despise you liberal dem bloodsuckers for 50 years, that has evolved over the last 7.5 years, we now hate you with a depth, intensity and bitterness, that has no bottom
            You garbage still think that, this, is about politics.

          • rockcut

            I will not give in to your type of thinking. You, with your hate, do not represent the America i fought for. In fact, you are part of the problem not the solution.

          • gerald Hughes

            Great don’t give in your worthless fing low life liberal dem bloodsucker.
            Soon the decent people will get enough, then we will laugh as you fing handouters starve to death.

          • rockcut

            You are nothing but a fowl mouth child bully with your claims. Grow up

          • gerald Hughes

            You think, worthless liberal dem bloodsucking ersatz life form?
            Take bully and misspelling out of your posts you would have to go back to screaming, “Bush did it”
            Kill yourself worthless life form, help us get the garbage out of the gene pool.

          • rockcut

            You are a sick person and I need no more posts from the likes of you. your potty mouth tells me all I need to know.

          • gerald Hughes

            No liberal dem bloodsucking parasite you do need them, but , you won’t pay attention, you will keep trying to screw people pay to pay for your handouts
            C’mon liberal tick, kill yourself before your children find out that they are related to you.
            No point in hanging that cross on them, for life.

          • rockcut

            Your posts show you are a very hateful, ignorant, and challenged person. You spit out your nonsense no stop. Grow up.

          • gerald Hughes

            I am indeed hateful, but much more informed than you low life liberal dem bloodsuckers
            Soon, we will separate ourselves from you,. laugh as all of the businesses and rich people leave your portion , then applaud as you worthless low life parasites starve to death.
            You scum have lived off of some one else’s efforts for 50 years, now, you are going to pay the price.

          • americanpatriot

            your a stupid fuck

          • rockcut

            I see you are putting on display your school yard foul mouth. You are displaying you are a BULLY. A childish one at that my american patriot !

          • David in MA

            commie

        • ADRoberts

          I would prefer Cruz.
          But you are so simple that you can’t see just how crafty and devious the elite really are. You see. They don’t care what we do. They have ALL contingencies covered. That is how powerful they are.
          The ONLY one they don’t have covered is God. And they either don’t believe in Him or know that He will not interfere in their END TIMES game.

      • kbfallon

        Hillary sticker for you!

        • ADRoberts

          And why would that be? Is that supposed to be an insult?

      • Carolyn

        Not true.

        • ADRoberts

          And you know this HOW?

      • panchoVilladeltren

        You are s-o-o correct. Trump is as big a liar as Hillary, and/or Obama, whose intentions are only for personal gain. And like obama, he is a coward, a traitor, a mobster, and as big a phoney as you might ever hope to find.
        What gets me is how many political prostitutes are out there, being Ho’s thinking Trump is their pimp, all because he flashes ill gotten cash. They are no different than the slimy goldiggers that soon find that they were fooled.
        Trouble is, these political harlots can help the skunk bring us down.

        • ADRoberts

          Best proof of his cowardice is his refusal to deal with Megan Kelly.

      • used_to_be_a_liberal

        why, because he doesn’t thump a Bible, go to church every Sunday, and quote “scripture”? If you think that those things will get Cruz elected, your sadly mistaken.

        • ADRoberts

          You don’t get it. But you should. It is a fact that if you can trust a person in the small things, you are likely to be able to trust them in the BIGi things.
          Now what part of the Trump charade do you see that has been consistent and actually conservative.
          That claim of being a Christian is just an indication that he cannot be trusted in anything else HE LIES. And he will lie about anything to get what he wants. He has no integrity. (foul mouth) He has no morality ( brags about his affairs with married women.) He has no respect for anyone (Fiorina, Carson, Cruz, and anyone else who “might” be a threat to his plans; he shreds them.

          So what is his GOOD characteristic? One====== he makes money. And sometimes he makes it at the expense of others with bankruptcy, casinos, eminent domain, and “deals”.
          And you want that kind of person as president.
          I can assure you. He WILL appoint his sister to the SCOTUS. Forget conflict of interest.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            I agree with your first paragraph to a certain degree, and then the variables kick in.
            Then there is the morality, the womanizing thing. JFK comes to mind on that one, and his brother Robert. How many other presidents “played” around.
            Then there is the thing on how fortunes were made, family or on an individual basis. Bootlegging, Mafia ties, and international intrigue, for the Kennedys and the Bush family.
            Lies, some out-right lie, some spin, some embellish, others exaggerate. Cruz is not innocent of that either.
            Now we can nit-pick on a number of things, and when all is said and done Cruz, and Trump would come out tied. These two guys have more in common, then not. I have said this before, either one of these guys would just be fine with me. I would like to see a Trump/Cruz ticket or a Cruz/Trump ticket.
            We need both of them. A bull in the China shop, and a sly fox.
            The last thing we need is a mr. nice guy. We are in a revolution. By the way to Cruz’s credit, he called the Hilda-Beast a total disgrace, laced into her a bit too today. So much for “respect” not that she deserves any.
            There are some changes coming our way, and like it or not they are going to have to happen. If they do not happen, then we can expect more Commie Bernie’s, and more Hilda-Beasts.

          • ADRoberts

            I would ask proof of the following:
            1. “Cruz is not innocent either”. I assume that you are speculating
            2. “These guys have more in common, than not” Really? Cruz has a conservative record. Trump’s record is of liberalism that only changed when he decided to run for office. So what do they have in common?
            3. “The last thing we need is Mr. Nice guy.” So you fail to understand that we are where we are today NOT because of NICE GUYS but because of those who are shrewd and aggresive

            Conservative guys are nice guys. If you want aggressive and bullies, you will find out that they are always liberals and nasty.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            We could play this game all week long.
            Just type into your search window Cruz lies, then do the same for Trump. The same can be done for any issue. There are hundreds of sites if not thousands.
            I do not care what Glen Beck says, or any other talking head for that matter.
            These two guys are more alike then we are lead to believe. The GOP, and the DNC are running scared because of these two. The fact is that the Clinton people are more afraid of Trump, because he won’t play by the political rules, he will tear her to pieces, Cruz will be a little more polite.
            Washington needs a kick in the butt, these guys will do that.

          • ADRoberts

            RECORD. That is what you are so careful not to mention. And don’t forget that filthy mouth that Trump has. You think you can compare that to Cruz? LOL
            No way. Cruz is much closer to being a REAL Christian. And I can assure you that from the mouth comes a reflection of the soul. So I CAN declare that Trump is a vile and arrogant seeker of power. And Cruz appears to be a patriot constitutionalist who has already shown integrity by his actions in the Senate.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            Listen you have your opinion, I have mine. I told you either one is fine with me. I do not care who said what and when. I don’t care about he said she said, I am not interested on who is the so-called better Christian. I don’t care if they both have foul mouths, that is a sign of the times.
            What I do care about is cleaning up that cesspool called Washington. Either one of those guys will do it.
            Now, one more thing, and that’s it.
            I wrote the following about Obama, on May 5, 2008. I think I had him pegged pretty good. I don’t see any of this in Cruz or Trump.

            05/05/08 at 12:24 PM
            All Hail The Obama,The Spawn of Satan Prince of Darkness Great Deceiver Anti Christ,He shall lead you into a world of darkness,and spread his evil Marxist socialism all over thee,and thou willst lap it up,for ye believeth that thou willst have more then 15 minutes of feel good stuff.The Obama shall ravish the land,then give it unto those who deserve it not.He will protect a false relegion,and by his sly means inflict it on all. ALL HAIL THE OBAMA, the new messiah, the great saviour. All HAIL THE OBAMA,his voice shalt be heard through every boombox throughout the land.He shall let the white powder flow,for he has tasted,and said,”Wow this is good”,and ye, his followers shall cheer,bow and pay homage to the spawn of the devil,as he devours the very soul of a nation.The Messiah Obama shall cumith and spread his seed all over the land,but the land will surely die,as this Obomination spreads his deceit.

          • ADRoberts

            The biggest sign of the times is YOU and you willingness to accept a foul mouthed lying arrogant 1%er. Where are all those people who KNOW that the one percent do not care for anyone but themselves?
            And your thinking that Trump will clean up DC. LOL He fits right in. He is the master of the “deal” And since he has NO PRINCIPLES as indicated by his vigorous support of Pelosi, Schumer, Reid and all the other destructive liberals, there is no reason to believe he will be concerned about ANY of the corruption that is going on. In fact, he brags about seducing marriage women, and about his “greasing he wheels of business” And THAT is corruption by a “legal” name.
            As to the death of the nation. Each and every person shall stand and give account of their own actions. And just the fact that they continue to support such wickedness as is Hitlery and Trump is full indication of how they will fair before God.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            whatever

          • ADRoberts

            Atta boy. No response. But still trying to show disrespect.

      • Mic

        I prefer to vote for someone who might ‘ b a false hope than those I know to be . Yet with corruption as prevalent as it is in politics , it is entirely possible that any and all these candidates r totally bought and paid for . In that case , Go Governor Ventura !

        • ADRoberts

          And you think that Ventura had any integrity? LOL

          No, Cruz is without a doubt the most likely to be honest and intelligent and knowledgeable. But he does not have one thing. The ability to deceive because he has no need to deceive.

    • rockcut

      You got your head on backwards Trump is the swine.

      • Bill Matthes

        And you apparently have yours up your rear-end! Or Obama’s!

        • heroay

          NO, “rockcutbrain” zio-trollo has his IN BOTH crevices at the same time! HOHOHO!!

      • heroay

        Mmmm…. No wonder, “rockcutbrain”, YOURS seems to be upside down SOMEWHAT, DOH??

        • rockcut

          You must be an understudy bully for Trump.

          • heroay

            WHAAT?? Did ya’say ‘some-thing, ‘”rockcutbrain”, or did ya’f@rt??

      • crazyfreddie

        U NEED TO PULL UR HEAD OUT UR BEGINNING TO SMELL LIKE KILLER HILLARY AND MONEY BOY BERNIE

      • Athanasios1

        Go fuck yourself. You know it all cock suckers destroyed America.

        • rockcut

          Why do you put on full display that you are no more than a foul mouth low life?

          • panchoVilladeltren

            Because Athanasiosi is pure-dee sewage. No brains, with a gator mouth, and a hummingbird butt. Like Trump, another coward.

        • panchoVilladeltren

          And YOU are destroying it as YOU suck.

        • David in MA

          YES, and it came from the Chicago bath house…. with your lawn boy.

          • Athanasios1

            The name of my lawn boy is Jose or Joseph in English.

      • used_to_be_a_liberal

        well then, if he is a swine, a pig, then that is exactly what we need to keep Islam out. Trump 2016, and choke on it.

        • Conrad

          Trump would cause much more problems than we already have, we sure don’t need any more.

          • used_to_be_a_liberal

            I don’t buy that. Cruz and Trump have more in common then they would like us to believe. We say that we don’t want to be swayed by talking heads, and left-wit media, but, as far as I can see they are doing a pretty good job.
            The DNC, and the GOP, especially the RINO faction are scared to death of Trump, they are all trying desperately to malign him because their power structure, their perks, their lobbyists, their cronyism, their agenda for illegals, their money flow/gravy train, and their agenda’s will end, and they know it. Departments, agencies, and czars are all at risk. There will be a house cleaning, and people will be prosecuted.

      • David in MA

        and, what is the alternative, the Canadian, the anchor baby or the idiot Kasich?
        I will take my chance with Trump.

        • rockcut

          I would never vote for Trump under any conditions.

          • David in MA

            ok, but why not?

          • rockcut

            Trump is selling emotional empty promises that I see as snake oil. He is crude, and communicates on the emotional level of a child. He has no detail plans, he jumps most times into telling everyone how great he is and how great America will be but has no plans to make it great. It is one big Con.

          • David in MA

            No, I asked why a no vote for Trump, not a run down for the one you did vote for, Obama.

          • rockcut

            Cute, but that is my heart felt view of Trump !!! Since I am a New Yorker, I have been exposed to Trump for a very long time. He is a BIG ASS CON MAN.

  • Phil Esposito

    There will be a revolution if we pick Trump and they change our pick. I’m willing to fight!

    • gerald Hughes

      We need to be planning to be there for the republican convention, a couple of hundred thousand of us.
      bring ropes

      • ADRoberts

        What for? To back the Democrat who is about to take our nomination away from us.
        Trump has DONE nothing so far except be a liberal. And all the stuff he claims to be liberal at, is all falling apart.
        Pro-life? NO, he still supports PP
        Build a wall? No, He told the NYT that it won’t happen.
        For man/woman marriage? No. He wrongly told Kim Davis to “obey the law of the land”, when there is no law. SCOTUS cannot make any law.
        You all are suckers.

        • gerald Hughes

          That you Prinze
          Listen carefully a-hole, we don’t g9ive a rat’s patoot.
          We want some one in offce that isn’t there trying to get rich, get it, a-hole?And we are perfectly willing to go there ropes in hand.
          Continue to mess with us RINO, we will put the republican party out to graze, you stupid a-hole.

          • ADRoberts

            Flagged for your inability to discuss without foul language. And then I will point out that you “want” all you want. And I guess that the “ropes in hand” is a threat of violence.
            Now , smart BOY. Get this. I don’t care what you do with the REpublican Party. The leaders are not through with YOU yet. They still have control, even though you are not smart enough to know it.
            And yes, they are just as evil and destructive as the Democrats are.
            But I assume you can only think BAD things about anyone who opposes you “precious” Trojan Horse.

          • gerald Hughes

            POh no, not that, flagged me, OMG, please tell me it isn’t so.
            Stick it in your nose RINO a-wipe.

          • ADRoberts

            So you think that it means nothing to you. That says even more about how worthless you are to any discussion. No one will consider you worth commenting to or with. But you know that already, don’t you. You are pathetic. And you are weak minded. Only a weak minded person resorts to profanity to try to be forceful in their dialogue.

          • gerald Hughes

            kill yourself ersatz life form, anyone as miserable as you is better off deadDo it expeditiously, you can probably do it before your children find out that they are related to you.
            No point in hanging that cross on them for life, ersatz pos.

          • ADRoberts

            My, how intelligent you must think yourself to be. You can’t address what I post. So you want to tell he to commit suicide. Let me tell you. I have joy in my life because of Jesus Christ. You are the one who focuses on smearing and attacking and hate. So where did you get the idea that you know ANYTHING? No point in posting since you have nothing to say about the topic at hand.

          • gerald Hughes

            There is no joy in your life you are an individual of no value, worth, morals honor or integrity.
            Think of your children,. kill yourself

          • ADRoberts

            And by your own words, you are a servant of satan.
            God have mercy on you.
            I was going to say that triggering your response gives me great joy. But in truth, I am saddened by your lack of integrity, respect, and common civility.
            But you do act much like a preteen internet bully.

          • gerald Hughes

            This is national, “clean up the gene pool week” help us out, kill yourself.

          • ADRoberts

            And I will remind you, since you are obviously a secular person that God has declared that you will answer for every idle word. And that sentence was not idle. It was that of a bully who could not think of a way to answer whatever I had said. LOL.
            You prove for everyone to see. You LOSE.

          • gerald Hughes

            have a direct line to God, do you?
            Kill yourself scumbag

          • ADRoberts

            I will flag you again. But it appears that the moderator does not mind your bully act.
            Yes, I do have a direct line to God. And you obviously have NO desire to know Him or serve Him. So I will leave you in HIS hands.

          • gerald Hughes

            Oh no, not that, flagged again????
            OMG
            Please kill yourself cretin

          • ADRoberts

            Bright BOY. I am 6″ 3″. I bet you don’t what that means as to your claim. LOL

          • gerald Hughes

            Cretin, if you were 10 feet tall, you would still be a very small life form of no value.

          • ADRoberts

            You will account to God for every word. And nothing you say will negate the Word of God.
            Now repeat yourself again. Since that is all the intelligence you have. LOL>

          • gerald Hughes

            You say the same things over and over again cretin.
            On and On.
            I freely admit that I have little in the way of religion.
            i do believe in God and expect that I will pay the price some day for my life.
            Then, there are the people like you, that presume to know the mind of God and have the unmitigated gall to speak for God.
            Friend, I most sincerely hope that I don’t die the same time that you do.
            When you get there and attempt to tell pete what God said, he i going to look at you and say, “hang on a minute, then, God will come to you and you will start lecturing him.
            I don’t know what can be worse than burning for eternity, and brother, I don’t want to be there when you find out.

          • ADRoberts

            I serve Jesus Christ. I have proof. And I assure you that you will not see anyone in hell. It is a place of isolation, pain, darkness and regret.
            I know that my Redeemer lives. I have done the simple thing of accepting HIS gift of salvation. And you can too. All you have to do is say the words, meaning them, “I accept Jesus Christ’s gift of sacrificing His life for my sins.” And then turn away from sinning.

          • gerald Hughes

            You have the proof in your closed little verbose mind, no where else.
            You bear a striking resemblance a to liberal dem bloodsucker in your constant certainty of being right about everything.
            Now, give us break garbage, kill yourself.

          • ADRoberts

            You are illogical and irrational. I am beginning to believe you are mentally ill. But for certain, you are evil.

          • gerald Hughes

            Are you still alive? Think of the gene pool, help us out.

          • ADRoberts

            ANd who is the “us”? You seem to think that you have backing.So let’s look at your “likes” Just as I thought. You are not very popular. Apparently there is NOBODY in that “us” but you. And I will allow God to give you a break. But He will give justice instead.

          • gerald Hughes

            Lol, you fing creting , you will allow God to give me a break!!!
            Well, that is big of you.
            I don’t want to be anywhere in the area when you find out what God’s plans are for you, you low life ersatz life form, without merit, worth, value, morals, honor or integrity

        • kbfallon

          Two stickers..

          • ADRoberts

            Don’t know what that means.

        • Robert Early

          You, my friend, lack basic understanding of reality. Trump is neither Liberal or Conservative. He is an Independent Pragmatist. He appreciates success wherever he finds it, regardless of political or social labels.
          I am about as Conservative as anyone can be; but I’m also an intelligent realist. A pure Conservative has no chance of changing Washington. The situation requires a skilled negotiator to systematically put this country back on the right track. Even Trump can’t do it by himself. In proper order, we voters must also do our part to rid government of the RINO and Socialist Scum.

          • Michael

            Amen!

          • heroay

            Trump right or wrong, WE The People CAN end the mafia run DC Latrine… Keep an eye on the 10th Amendment drive around the country. It’s hitting the mafia across their criminal treacherous faces. But it is NOT on the Mess Media blabber-mouths, of course.

            ● NULLIFICATION – Tenth Amendment – (tenthamendmentcenter dot com/2015/08/03/six-state-laws-to-nullify-federal-actions-in-practice-go-into-effect/)
            ● ProjectFreedomUSA – (projectfreedomusa dot org/about/)
            ● Get the Hell Out of Our Country! Parts 1 to 5 – (veteranstoday dot com/2015/02/05/get-the-hell-out-of-our-country/)
            ● PROPOSED DECLARATION of War against Rothschild
            Khazarian Mafia – Preston James and Mike Harris – (veteranstoday dot com/2015/05/08/proposed-declaration-of-war-against-the-rothschild-khazarian-mafia/)
            ● Republican Party of Texas – Report of
            Permanent Committee – 2014 – (texasgop dot
            org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-Platform-Final.pdf)
            ● BOMBSHELL: Snowden downloaded entire roster of
            U.S. government – all names, home addresses and other personal info of **all** officials and gov’t employees — including law enforcement — plus bankers,
            corporate boards of directors and more! – (turnerradionetwork dot com/news/266-pat)

          • ADRoberts

            He is not independent.
            He is not pragmatic.
            He is and always has been a liberal and he does ANYTHING and says anything to get what he wants.
            He IS for Trump.
            Your claim that your are a “realist” means that you lack principles and are willing to compromise at the first sign of trouble.
            Now hear this. The ONLY thing that will change DC is God, OR a massive revolution. They right now believe that they have all bases covered, including revolution. But they have NO idea of controlling God, because they truly don’t believe in Him or they would not be doing the wicked, evil things they have been doing for fear of His judgement.
            You put your trust in a “skilled negotiator”. What a lack of wisdom. We are headed for end times with all the power of the accuser being brought to bear. And thousands of Christians are dying every day at the hands of the muslims, who Obama and the Bilderbergs seem to support. And you think there is hope in a mere “negotiator”.

            Fact: If y;ou are not living in John 14:12, you arfe not really trusting God and are not serving Him and have no real hope.

          • Robert Early

            Friend,
            I have been a Christian pastor for over fifty years. While I respect your views, I do not agree with your theology. The “end times” have occured many times in history. Our Lord Jesus specifically said that not even the angels in heaven know the appointed time. Only God knows. So, I suspect that you don’t know either. This is certainly not the first time that Chrisians have been persecuted; and likely will not be the last. Until then, I will resist evil.
            If necessary, I will join the revolution to take on the forces of evil.

          • Jon Ockunzzi

            and you know this how?

          • ADRoberts

            Observation of contradicting behavior. Like complimenting people until he sees that they aren’t going to “play” his game. Then viciously attacking them.
            And flipping of so many issues after years on the other side. ANd conveniently, all of this just before running as a conservative Republican.
            And then all of his blatant lies. Like claiming to be PRO-LIFE and then continuing to give to PP.
            If you don’t see it, you are intentionally blind

          • Jon Ockunzzi

            Oooh, observation. I see…….

          • ADRoberts

            Yes. You see. You have yet to figure out that most if not all of what you think you know, you got from someone else. And the problem is WHO you choose to hear.
            Observation is what a person sees with his own eyes. So I guess that you are a sheeple.

          • Jon Ockunzzi

            “So I guess that you are a sheeple.” – You got that by observing………….I see………..Well, I get nothing from anyone but myself.

          • ADRoberts

            What blind arrogance. YOu did not even get ONE PLUS ONE from yourself.
            And all of what you THINK you know about ALL of the candidates come from some other talking head. LOL. And you got it from yourself? LOL
            Think again. Unless you have spent every waking moment with every one of the candidates for the last 40 years, you DID NOT. And here you are on a site that puts out articles that someone wrote. I guess you don’t read them or get anything from the either.

          • Jon Ockunzzi

            I fail to comprehend your logic and you fail to understand what I am saying. I will try to explain. Some “talking head” (LOL) may have told me that one plus one equals two but I did not believe the fool until I physically held one object in one hand and another object the other hand and put them together to make two objects. I got that from myself.

          • ADRoberts

            Now if you have taken a courser in PHILOSOPHY, you might have come up with that one. But I doubt you have. No. My point is that just about NOTHING we think we know comes from actual experience where we can say, “I know that this is true.”. Just like ONE PLUS ONE. But you play your games. And I will say that all you know, you could write on the head of a pin. Oh, and your claim. That is so bogus. You had to have someone tell you the definition of every single word before you could even have THAT claim of knowledge.
            How did you know what ONE meant if someone did not tell you. LOL

          • Jon Ockunzzi

            I have taken courses in philosophy and have 2 college degrees, a Bachelor of Science in Education and a Bachelor of Arts. You should brush up on how infants and toddlers become aware of their environment and learn to speak. EVERYTHING comes from actual experience. Each and every word does not have to be defined before the child can use the language, Now here’s the rub; how did I know the definitions of the words used to define the word ONE?

          • ADRoberts

            No, I have enough sense to see how even babies learn. If you had half a brain, you would know that IF you take a child and put them in an environment devoid of human contact, they will not learn ANYTHING.
            No, you don’t define the words to them. But for SURE, they do learn from others. Every last thing they learn they get from others.
            Now tell me how much you know about, say Trump, that you did not get from others. I will tell you how much. You get it ALL except for what you hear IN HIS SPEECHES. Not a thing that you are told about him came from personal knowledge. You got it ALL from others, who you CHOOSE to believe.
            Point of fact. I read a book about John Adams. It was a very good read. But further reading proved that the author of the book I read was very rosy about him. Others don’t like him and portray many of his actions in a different light. You see, we get it ALL from others. By the way, I still like Adams much better than I like Jefferson or Franklin. Adams was MORAL.

          • Jon Ockunzzi

            You are right, we do learn from others. Every last thing we learn we “get” from others. We learn nothing from our environment. Devoid of human contact we would just die. By the way, I know Donald Trump. He is a business associate of my niece’s in-laws, but I don’t know a thing about him, and I grow weary of our discussion. You are right about Adams.

          • ADRoberts

            I would like to clarify. I do not believe that we learn NOTHING from our environment. But compared to the massive volume of things we believe we KNOW, it is not that much.

          • Jon Ockunzzi

            You are absolutely correct.

          • ADRoberts

            What you THINK you know depends entirely on WHO you listen to.

          • Jon Ockunzzi

            Well, I see, …, works for you I guess, ………..

        • heroay

          Here, enjoy your tribe’s LAST stand on squatted territories…

          DEATH TO JWO:
          ● Be Wise As Serpents – (Fritz Srpingmeier)
          ● BOMBSHELL: Snowden downloaded entire roster of U.S. government – all names, home addresses and other personal info of **all** officials and gov’t employees — including law enforcement — plus bankers, corporate boards of directors and more! – (turnerradionetwork dot com/news/266-pat)
          ● Daniel Friberg – The Last Days of the Lunatic Left – Hour 1 – (youtube dot com/watch?v=Fe8ixXrldxA)
          ● EU issues new ruling on labeling of Israeli products – (follownews dot com/eu-issues-new-ruling-on-labeling-of-israeli-products-cz6k)
          ● Europe has taken one more small step towards making Israel a pariah state – (follownews dot
          com/europe-has-taken-one-more-small-step-towards-making-israel-a-pariah-state-czz1)
          ● Expulsion of Jews from Europe and the US imminent? – (firstlightforum.wordpress dot com/2009/01/10/expulsion-of-jews-from-europe-and-the-us-imminent/)
          ● Following EU Decision To Label All Israeli Goods, Netanyahu Breaks Diplomatic Contact – (follownews dot com/p/myuo)
          ● NULLIFICATION – Tenth Amendment – (tenthamendmentcenter dot com/2015/08/03/six-state-laws-to-nullify-federal-actions-in-practice-go-into-effect/)
          ● Get the Hell Out of Our Country! Parts 1 to 5 – (veteranstoday dot com/2015/02/05/get-the-hell-out-of-our-country/)
          ● Israel a cornered rat – “In 10 years there will be no more Israel” – Henry ‘Balloonie’ Kizzinger – (darkmoon dot me/2014/israel-a-cornered-rat/)
          ● Texe Marrs Khazar Fake Jews And The Coming Destruction of Israel – (youtube dot com/watch?v=qsbSVtxS83c)
          ● ProjectFreedomUSA – (projectfreedomusa dot org/about/)
          ● PROPOSED DECLARATION of War against Rothschild Khazarian Mafia – Preston James and Mike Harris – (veteranstoday dot com/2015/05/08/proposed-declaration-of-war-against-the-rothschild-khazarian-mafia/)
          ● Tanstaafl – Race, Biology & Modus Operandi of Jewish Extremists – Hour 1 – YouTube – (youtube dot com/watch?v=6mK_qFnr1jg)
          ● Republican Party of Texas – Report of Permanent Committee – 2014 – (texasgop dot org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-Platform-Final.pdf)
          ● Revelation 20: 1 to 3 – Beast to Abyss for A Thousand Years – (Christian New Testament)
          ● Revelation 20: 7 to 10 – Beast to Abyss for All Eternity – (Christian New Testament)
          ● Spain town with ‘Kill Jews’ in name mulls change – (conservativeread dot com/spain-town-with-kill-jews-in-name-mulls-change/)
          ● The Tide Turns: Majority of US Citizens Think America Gives Too Much to Israel – (davidduke dot com/tide-turns-majority-us-citizens-think-us-gives-much-israel/)
          ● Timeline of Punishment of ‘jews’ since 722 BC – (tinyurl dot com/porrc45)
          ● Updated: 5 Minutes To Self-Immolation Of The Israeli ‘Empire’ [Squatters] – Video Rebel’s Blog – (vidrebel.wordpress dot com/2013/08/29/updated-5-minutes-to-self-immolation-of-the-israeli-empire/)

          • ADRoberts

            Don’t know who JWO is.
            ANd your entire post is meaningless to me.
            But it looks like a list of videos and publications that are based in lies and deceit.
            Don’t know for sure. And Don’t care. Getting ready to leave you to your master, whoever that. (Note that it could be either satan or Jesus. But for sure, it is one or the other)

          • heroay

            WHOA! AiDsRoberts, MOST ignorant JWO troll argues like he KNOWS something, but knows NOTHING about ANYTHING?? Here, a refresher course for diaper Yeshiva zio-troll ‘newbie’. Keep babbling; i’ll keep plugging your lying mouth:

            ASHKENAZI TREACHERY:
            ● The Jew World Order and the Talmud – Sherry Shriner – (thewatcherfiles dot com/talmud_nwo dot html) )
            ● What The Jews Did To Germany now in the USA – (youtube dot com/watch?v=xw2FhXZ9tiw)
            ● A Real Case Against the Jews – (Marcus Eli Ravage)
            ● The Hidden Tyranny – (Harold Wallace Rosenthal)
            ● The Hidden Hand – The Secret World Government – (Cherep-Spridovich)
            ● The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia (Updated) – Preston James Ph.D – (veteranstoday dot com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/)
            ● The International Jew – (Henry Ford)
            ● The Pollard Spy Case – (crimelibrary dot com/terrorists_spies/spies/pollard/1 dot html)
            ● The Jew Media Octopus – (Incogman dot net)
            ● Jews, Generals, & The US War Machine – (realjewnews dot com/?p=477)
            ● Ebola, AIDS Manufactured by Western Pharmaceuticals, US DoD – (Liberian Observer dot com)
            ● Evidence of the use of Pandemic Flu to Depopulate the USA – (Jane Burguermeister)
            ● Tracing America’s Enslavement to Jewish Bankers – (realjewnews dot com/?p=640)
            ● The Age of Treason – Chemical Attack on Humanity – (oldthinkernews dot com)
            ● Zionist Infiltration of the Christian Churches – Jim Condit Jr – (youtube dot com/watch?v=roZ8No6D87s)
            ● Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution – (Antony Sutton)
            ● The Mossad Role In The JFK Assassination Conspiracy – (Michael Collins Piper)
            ● How Ehud Barak Pulled Off 9-11 – (bollyn dot com/how-ehud-barak-pulled-off-9-11-2)
            ● Who Brought the Slaves to America – (Walter White)
            ● The Israeli Criminals Behind the NSA Spy Scandal – (tinyurl dot com/luy788h)
            ● The Protocols of the Elders of Zion – (Zio-Psychos)
            ● The Rothschild Octopus – (Vlada Sindjelic)
            ● The USS Liberty Attack – (uss-liberty dot com/2011/02/08/the-attack-on-the-uss-liberty/)
            ● The Zionist Matrix of Power – (youtube dot com/watch?v=58O023HXGUM)

          • ADRoberts

            So you believe every cracked pot conspiracy theory that comes along. And yet you have no use for God. If you did, you would know that HE is in charge and He gets to pick and choose who He likes. And He likes me. And He likes the Jews.
            Personally, I have nothing for or against the Jews. But I do know that IF you believe the Bible, you have to know that in the end times, they WILL accept Messiah.
            Now get this. God is God. And one of the things He tells us in the Book of James is that we should be joyful when we face “troubles of many kinds”. But yo can’t understand that. Yet you can believe all this fantastic make believe or real attacks on people who you have never met and will never have anything to do with. YOu have sold your soul. And for what?

          • heroay

            >>”every cracked pot conspiracy theory”

            The ONLY crackpot is YOU; ALL the conspiracies are by YOUR ashkeNazi rapine mastas; and all we can theorize given the circumstances, is whether you are gay, or lesbian… under their control

            >>”you have no use for god”

            Coming from YOU, it can only mean (‘god’): El, Elohim, Baal, Yahu, Yahwah, Molech, Satan, Jehovah, ad nauseam… Of Coz NOT, AiDsRobot!

            >>”he [Satan] gets to pick and choose who he likes”…

            YOU!! That’s WHY you are in THIS forum, pretending to confuse the FACTS, TWIST logic, and SPIT your lies to cover your god’s CRIMES.

            >>”Personally, I have nothing for or against the Jews.”

            Of Coz you don’t! You are an accomplice to their crimes by pretending to ignore what they have done to humanity for the last 6000 years. Are you on the payroll, JUDAS?…

            >>”joyful when we face “[ASHKENAZI] troubles of many kinds”…

            BLIND of convenience… Or, COLLUDED with these satanic criminals, for PAY.

            JEW EVIL:
            ● “Ye are of your father the devil” – (John 8:44 N.T.)
            ● “Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?” (Matthew 23:31-33)
            ● Haskala Demands Diversity and Tolerance from Goyim but Vile Judeo-Centrism from Jews/Israel – (gilad dot co dot uk/writings/alain-soral-and-gilad-atzmon-on-jewish-power-and-cultural-na.html)
            ● Gentile Children Have Sex With Dogs – (Rabbi Boruch Lesches)
            ● “Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our God is Lucifer… We are his chosen people..” – (Harold Rosenthal – The Hidden Tyranny – 1970)
            ● Mullins New History Of The Jews – 1968 – (jrbooksonline dot com/PDF_Books/MULLINSEustace-Mullins_New_History_Of_The_Jews-1968.pdf)
            ● New Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of Israel David Lau’s racist comments – (destroyzionism dot com/page/108/)
            ● Ovadia Yosef: The Israeli Rabbi Of Hate (ccun dot org/Opinion_Editorials/2008/March/5_o/Ovadia_Yosef_The_Israeli_Rabbi_Of_Hate_By_Khalid_Amayreh.htm)
            ● Sayings by vile rabid rabbinos from the sewers of Shinar – (destroyzionism dot com/page/3/)
            ● The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia (Updated) – Preston James Ph.D – (veteranstoday dot com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/)
            ● Twofold More the Child of Hell – (texemarrs dot com/012014/twofold_more.htm)
            ● The Synagogue of Satan – (Andrew Carrington Hitchcock)
            ● The Talmud Unmasked – (I. B. Pranaitis)
            ● Rev 2: 9 – “…but are the synagogue of Satan.” – (antichristconspiracy dot com/synagogue_of_satan.htm)
            ● Revelation 20: 1 to 3 – Beast to Abyss for A Thousand Years – (Christian New Testament)
            ● Revelation 20: 7 to 10 – Beast to Abyss for All Eternity – (Christian New Testament)
            ● “What a wretched depravity of sentiment and manners must have prevailed before such corrupt maxims could have obtained credit! It is impossible to collect from these writings a consistent series of moral Doctrine” – Thomas Jefferson on the depraved state of the Talmud – (fathersmanifesto dot net/tj.htm)

      • Jean Langford M.

        ROPES???….NO IT IS TIME FOR ARMED REBELLION.

        • gerald Hughes

          Works for me.,

    • James Lowder

      Don’t be foolish. If there is a huge revolt against the government it will give obama all the excuse he needs to declare martial law and stay in office indefinitely. Don’t let them play you into their plans.

  • Alvis Jenkins

    Voting in America is a total farce!!!

    • Robert Early

      Alvis, as long as you are not a farce, then voting is not a farce. Hang in there. You and I are millions.

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