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SCOTUS leaves in place ruling that struck down N.C.’s voter ID law

May 15, 2017

SCOTUSThe Supreme Court is leaving in place a ruling that struck down North Carolina’s voter identification law as unconstitutional because it was intended to suppress the votes of African Americans.

Chief Justice John Roberts issued an unusual statement Monday saying the high court’s decision not to wade into the case should not be taken as an indication of the justices’ views on the broader issues at stake. He suggested the high court’s decision was due to confusion over the newly-elected Democratic governor and attorney general’s efforts to have the state back out of the litigation and accept the 4th Circuit’s decision last year voiding the controversial measure.

“Given the blizzard of filings over who is and who is not authorized to seek review in this Court under North Carolina law, it is important to recall our frequent admonition that ‘[t]he denial of a writ of certiorari imports no expression of opinion upon the merits of the case,'” Roberts wrote.
No justice publicly dissented from the court’s decision not to take the case or indicated whether he or she agreed with Roberts’ explanation of why the court was punting on the issue.

146 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • Lkfeinb says:

    You didn’t really vote for this, did you? A trillion dollar budget.
    $635 billion dollar cut to Medicaid
    Having Russian Spies in the Oval Office (A lot worse than Monica)
    De classifying classified info to look good to the Ruskys.
    Trillion dollar spending bill
    Wall St. insiders filling the swamp in Washington
    A destructive health bill that wasn’t what was promised
    85% cut to the National Park Service
    Money cut to the EPA which goes towards cleaning up polution in the Great Lakes, monitoring clean air and water.
    etc. etc. etc

    1. JYuma says:

      Hell! Yes!! If it will get Rid of People like you!!!!!!!

      1. Lkfeinb says:

        You see, none of this will affect me personally. It may affect my children and grandchildren. Do you have anyone at all in your life? Doesn’t sound like it!

        1. JYuma says:

          Actually. This stuff is affecting you Now. Just as it is me, your friends, as well as mine.
          Yes, my Wife and I had 4 Children, We made sure that they were raised to be individuals. To think for themselves. They, with use are raising the Nine Grandchildren to do the same.
          The two Sons are Officers of the Law. The daughters , are Lawyers. They were raised too be able to survive in adverse conditions.
          Were You? Have you taught your children to be able to survive if Society breaks down?
          Have your Grandchildren, been given any guidance on how to depend on themselves and family? Or do you like ,90% of the people like yourself believe that the Government will do it for You?
          Mine don’t. I, and my Wife don’t.

  • JYuma says:

    Actually, the Governor of South Carolina pulled it from debate. He ordered the State Attorney General to drop it.

  • The Redhawk says:


  • usmcltc says:

    Amazing! The Supreme Court just said that blacks are too dumb to get picture IDs. Of course the liberals love this, and blacks love the liberals. Wonders never cease.

    1. Artemis says:

      Yet it was REPUBLICANS that freed them from “Slavery”, Something that lends itself to the Left literally purchasing votes with American tax dollars!

  • Taking care of business! says:


  • Name says:

    Roberts was such a bad choice!

  • Mike McCloud says:

    ” Who is authorized to view—-” ??? What the–? A citizen of The United States-ANY citizen, cannot view a Public Law? BS.

  • DocJimmy says:

    How IN THE FRICK’N WORLD, is voter ID going to suppress the black vote. Its design is for ONE PERSON = ONE VOTE. When it comes to the SCOTUS, I ask: “WHERE’S YOUR HEAD AT…?!!

    1. JYuma says:

      Any person on Public assistance has to have a Photo ID to Get on the Assistance. Be it Welfare, Food, Housing or what ever. They also lave to have one to drive a Car.

  • CCblogging says:

    President Trump must appoint more Constitution following SCOTUS judges. Kennedy is retiring and Ginsberg is hopefully about dead.

  • jake mccollum says:

    No trouble getting one for welfare!

  • justanagent says:

    OK, if they don’t like voter ID then after every election go back over the lists of those who voted and randomly verify whether or not they voted legally, Then use existing law and file criminal charges against those who voted more than once or knowingly voted illegally. It seems this is seldom if ever done but I bet it would suppress voter fraud especially if polling places maintained video surveillance to identify offenders.

    1. Artemis says:

      That won’t happen, because if the laws were enforced , Obama, Hillary, and the rest of those that misrepresent themselves would all be in prison! Aiding and abetting a fugitive (Criminal) from justice IS a Felony, I believe in every State, and also Federal Law! Comey, for instance stated that Hillary was guilty, but didn’t think anyone would “prosecute” her….Someone explain to me how he sat there very calmly before the entire world and told bald-faced lies, one after the other…Our “Leader” of the FBI…..?

      1. justanagent says:

        If our government will not respect its own Constitition and fairly enforce the laws enacted within its framework then it loses its legitimacy. We need an article V convention of states. Texas just passed a resolution calling for one. Twenty two more are needed. We are getting there.

  • John R says:

    Requiring identification won’t suppress Americans from voting. Very few cannot afford cigarettes, cell phones, booze or televisions. Even welfare recipients afford those things. They can afford a government issued ID then. There’s no excuse for anyone to not have an ID.
    Birth certificate, drivers license, government issued ID. Anyone at the age of 18 should have an ID at all times.

  • Stan Joy says:

    Right is STILL right and wrong is still WRONG. You don’t have to be an Einstein to know that it is very stupid not to have people show an ID in order to vote. We have to show ID’s for your drivers license, many times when you go to the bank, certain things you buy depend on you showing an ID. We all know why the Leftist favor keeping this ruling and that is anybody would be able to vote! And you know they don’t have to pay for them either! Hey, guess who they will vote for????

    1. Artemis says:

      The Communist way, circumvent the system!

  • mudguy1 says:

    Next who needs to go join Comey is Chief Justice Roberts, He punted on Obamacare now on voter ID. To bad Trump can’t fire him. Both are close to doing more damage to America as Obama did.

    1. JYuma says:

      Carolina, pulled the Case. Not Roberts. He is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he is not the Dullest either. There are three women that make him look Good, when it comes to Constitutional findings.

    2. Lkfeinb says:

      Too bad we can’t fire Trump!

      1. mudguy1 says:

        To bad you want America to be destoyied.

        1. Lkfeinb says:

          I simply do not want someone who is beholden to our enemies to be anywhere near the White House!! And I don’t want a president to give away dearly fought for classified info at a whim. He is a child. What are you that you can still support a traitor! I could understand your loyalty if you were Ivanka.

          1. mudguy1 says:

            To bad that you believe the fake news. Trump gave up NO classified information.
            After what has happened in the last 8 years and you claim Trump is a traitor?

          2. Lkfeinb says:

            Have you had your head in a hole or are you just watching FOX? Why do you think we now have an independent prosecutor? Just a coincidence, eh?

          3. mudguy1 says:

            If you have been watching the main stream media all you know is fake news. And your head is buried so deep in the sand that you will never get it out and you have no idea what is true.
            Just what crime is this independent prosecutor looking into?

          4. Lkfeinb says:

            That is what I mean. The fact that you don’t know even though it has been on every major network (except FoX) and every international channel. Try BBC. Fake news?
            Obstruction of Justice.

          5. mudguy1 says:

            There was and is no Obstruction of Justice. If you don’t watch FOX now do know whats on FOX.
            You have been watching the fake news so much you you have no idea what is true news.
            Did I say anything about watching FOX?
            Assuming that something is dangerous.

          6. JYuma says:

            Independent Prosecuter? Is that what he is?
            Not what I heard him refered to.

          7. JYuma says:

            Then, you must be Very Happy that Hellery did not get Elected! HUH?

  • KKmoderate says:

    “Roberts wrote.
    No justice publicly dissented from the court’s decision not to take the case or indicated whether he or she agreed with Roberts’ explanation of why the court was punting on the issue.”
    Kick the can down the road. Cowards!

  • KKmoderate says:

    SCOTUS members are politically motivated wimps. Our judiciary is slowly dismantling this country. The Congress is putting forth a valiant effort as well!

  • Albert Maloof says:

    Show ID to vote, wherever!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • TAM44 says:

    Every state should have to show a voter ID card no matter what race color they are. This BS about not being able to get photos is nonsense, you have to show IDs in every day life, this is 2017 not 1917, Everyone who is a citizens gets a birth certificate and a social security number. The only ones who are disenfranchised by having to show a voter ID are the law breaking illegals, felons, dead people, those who vote and vote in the same election and those who afraid to show one as they have something to hide.

    1. Retired says:

      They do not need a ID at places that thrive on them by charging to cash a check . Places like Title loans and pawn shops.

    2. mudguy1 says:

      We are the ONLY country in the world that dose not requier ID to vote. Also to let illegals stay in the country to work and get free education and to vote. California for one has thousands of illegals that are registered to vote.
      If the Democrats thought that the Republicans were going to get more voters to vote for them voter ID would have been past years ago.

    3. Artemis says:

      Our “Supreme” Court Justices just proved their worth to the whole world, Yes, they gave their permission to all those that perform voter fraud , for whatever reason. I am fed up almost to the point of rage! I am ex-military, and our young people are supposed to lay their lives on the line for a country that continues to “coddle” Criminals????? The U.S. Constitution gives US, “We the People” the right to REPLACE a “Government” that fails, or refuses to do the “will” of the people! The “Supreme” Court is not doing their job, and is deeply rooted in RACISM, is it not? IMHO, “We the People will only see “Justice ” prevail when we take the situation into our “own” hands! SAD! The “so called “Supreme” Court is in itself, as corrupt as the rest of the SEWER in Washington!

      1. JYuma says:

        Article V!!!

      2. TAM44 says:

        I think that term limits are greatly needed to get rid of these do nothing congress men and women. I think the supreme court justices should not have a life time appointment as some of them were dead from the neck up when they were appointment.

  • bobnstuff says:

    When a conservative court say you got a problem with your law, you have a problem. If you want a vote ID it needs to be aimed at stopping illegal votes not democrats votes.

    1. the whistler says:

      We have to present ID to vote in Florida…what’s the big whoop. You do realize that you also have to provide ID to get Federal and State Government services….How do they do that…I think I’ve noticed a lot of people of all colors getting those services. Voting is a Right of the Citizens….what is wrong with proving you are who you say you are. Any time you get a loan, cash a check,etc. you have to prove you are you. Why do you think identity theft is so debilitating to the victim???

      1. bobnstuff says:

        Vote ID isn’t the problem if done right. It’s setting it up so the ID used isn’t easy to get for the poor or minorities that’s the problem. It’s not all voter ID laws they ruled against, just North Carolina’s. The right to vote is a basic constitutional right and every efforts needs to be made to protect it for all citizens.
        “In North Carolina, for instance, the judges at oral arguments noted that government-issued driver’s licenses are an acceptable form of identification but that ­government-issued public assistance cards — used disproportionately by minorities in the state — are not.”
        That’s why it was thrown out.

        1. Retired says:

          Bullshitsky , It has been fought in every state since Obama election No.1 .Ill had voter ID for decades and there was no stink .Even in Mexico you have to receive a voter registration letter in order to vote .

          1. bobnstuff says:

            The courts have rule in favor of some voter ID laws. It’s the ones designed to keep groups of legally eligible people from voting like the North Carolina law that they throw out. Making people have to travel 35 miles to get ID when they have no drivers license that’s the problem.

          2. Retired says:

            That is a crock of bull and you know it , The ACLU comes up with a few hardship cases and blows it into a major crisis , we had the same problem in our state and the media went wild with it . Voting is a privilege and right if you follow the law of the land .

          3. bobnstuff says:

            It’s not the ACLU who made the ruling. The court thinks that any state issued ID should count. Voting isn’t a privilege, it’s a constitutional right just like owning a gun. If the state passed a law making you have to drive 35 miles to get a ID to let you buy a gun the NRA would bring out the big guns to fight it.

          4. Retired says:

            Who do you think is the one that brought the case up in the first place ,Stop being hard headed .Why bring the NRA into it ??? If I wanted to get a permit and could only do it in person my drive would be 100 miles one way . Stop being a hard head and acting stupid. Did you forget about 2012 in your state ???

          5. bobnstuff says:

            There two groups fighting for your rights under the constitution, the ACLU and the NRA. They have even on occasion ended up on the same side. So when you bought your last gun how far did you have to drive? Did you ever have to go even 35 miles ever? Could you do it easily without a drivers license?

          6. Retired says:

            The ACLU went down hill after LBJ and stopped taking care of the majorety and supported the minority. You know that as well as the rest of us , Why won’t you answer about 2012 in your state as being a target and the voter ID law ????

          7. bobnstuff says:

            When the republicans come out a brag that the law is to suppress voter turn out it will be challenged.

          8. Retired says:

            4 year old article , wow are you proud of yourself ????

          9. bobnstuff says:

            It happened in 2112 so that’s when the case was talked about. What he said hasn’t changed.

          10. Retired says:

            2012 Created the Monster of all times for the USA . I don’t think you will see 2112 ????

          11. bobnstuff says:

            I’m still getting used to a new keyboard. The 2012 law was pure politics. In person voter fraud isn’t a problem in Pa. never has been.

          12. Retired says:

            Then why did federal Judges mess in your state in 2012 ????

          13. bobnstuff says:

            Because the law was unconstitutional. The law was designed to suppress the vote.

          14. Retired says:

            That Is BS and you know that , it was to get Obama elected . They did not bother messing with voter ID laws in 2016 because everyone thought Hillary had it sewn up , Well the voters surprised them . So what is your BS on That ???

          15. bobnstuff says:

            Pa got a new voter ID law in 2016. This one won’t be thrown out.

          16. Retired says:

            You just can NOT bring yourself to the truth of 2012 , judges put Obama into office by allowing ,Bussing – crossing state lines and stopping voter ID laws .

          17. bobnstuff says:

            It’s not the truth that’s why I can’t except it. Remember that a large number of federal judges at that time were appointed by Bush, not Obama. Plus remember I live in Pa and watched it all play out. If you are going to try to rig an election you really need to not tell the world what you are doing. As for those busses, Fake News. Have you ever voted? do you honestly believe they could show up at your polling place with bus loads of people to vote?

          18. Retired says:

            It is evident that you can not think outside of the border of PA. It only went on in a 5 plus states for 2012 . did you sleep through that election

          19. bobnstuff says:

            My reading says that all those stories proved to be false. You see there are all these stories about voter fraud but no proof and very few convictions. Not one of the Bus stories proved true and they really got the election boards hot. We have been doing elections for a long time and the systems are set up to keep them honest.

          20. Retired says:

            Better change brands of toilet paper .

          21. bobnstuff says:

            I ask you again could they do all this voter fraud at your polling place. Even in high turnover populations you have the same people voting at the same place year after year. The poll workers would catch strangers in most cases. You see the system work 99.9% of the time.

          22. Retired says:

            How many times do I have to tell you how it was done ??? Are you that far gone and self centered , that there is life outside of Pa. ????

          23. Lkfeinb says:

            Why do you dismiss rational educated people? Is it because your self esteem would go down the drain if someone knew more than you. Bobnstuff knows more than me and I am not offended.

          24. JYuma says:

            El burro sabe mas que tu !
            I heard that your from Pa. So you probably do not understand that.
            If you think Bobup, the Trump Hater, is smarter than you You are 100% Correct.
            Oh! Ya!
            That means that a Pissant is Smarter than You!!!

          25. Retired says:

            He’s stuck in his own little corner of the world . Coins have two sides and bob has only one side , his There is life outside of his corner in Pa.

          26. Lkfeinb says:

            No, he has research on his side.

          27. Retired says:

            You forget the sources that he comes up with , I use real life as it happens and not what someone puts on the net. Remember garbage in garbage out .

          28. Lkfeinb says:

            So he is giving you resources from newspapers, magazines and local and national statistics and you use your life experiences. Smart!

          29. Retired says:

            Well I guess you don’t get around much like Bob . If you ever took polls you would know they are slanted towards the outcome that is wanted . Honesty has left the USA , our media proves that on a daily basis Many of our statistics are old and not current . People run out of Unemployment and then the numbers go down even though they have no job. People get hired because some retired or died , statistics call them new jobs just like much of our fake news .

          30. Lkfeinb says:

            You actually should learn a bit from bobnstuff. He knows what he is talking about.

          31. Lkfeinb says:

            Look, retired, you sound off without having any facts. I guess your ego is so thin that you cannot be wrong about anything. Unfortunately you are wrong about almost everything.

      2. Artemis says:

        Because it’s part of the Communist “Agenda”

      3. Artemis says:

        You’re too rational., Liberals are incapable of rational thinking!

    2. Retired says:

      Voting is for legal Citizens , the law is Quite clear on that . Excluded are felons and illegals . Bringing in ID laws have been fought by the ACLU nation wide ,did you forget about the 2012 voting, how federal Judges banned ID laws so Obama could win . Did you miss what happened in Va.. this last election ???? Those that can not get a ID are usually wanted by the law . Vey few are the ones without Birth certificate that the ACLU dwells on .

      1. bobnstuff says:

        The case is about an attempt to make it harder for some US Citizens to vote. Not because they didn’t have state issued ID but that they didn’t have the right state issued ID. Cases of in person voter fraud is very very rare. I Pa. you have to sign your name and the signatures have to match the registration card you signed.

        1. Retired says:

          That is what the ACLU presented . I remember 2012 the Judges fighting your state Voter ID law . Voter ID law should be federal and states that do not follow will lose federal funding , just like it was with the 55 speed limit . It is that simple .

          1. bobnstuff says:

            Elections are run by the states and they control the rules. every state is a little different. Do you want to take control out of the hands of the states? More Federal over reach. In Pa. we have no early in person voting. You vote on election day period. You can get an absentee ballet but you must request it well in advance.

          2. Retired says:

            No where did I say take it away from the state other than Voter ID should be regulated by the federal Gov. as we vote people into federal positions .Early voting was created by Demo Rats for a Obama win and you know that as well as others . My way of thinking is Voting should be held on the first Sunday in Nov. and all businesses required to be closed except for emergency type , that way there would be no excuses of not voting.

          3. bobnstuff says:

            You just said the voter laws should be federal, that means taking the power away from the states. Early voting predates Obama’s election in most states. Many of the states with early voting are strong republican and were when the rules were created. The Idea is to get as many people who are eligible to vote to the polls. It’s called democracy. In this country voter turnout is a crime. The last election had a 53% turnout. The 2014 mid terms had a record low 27%.

          4. Retired says:

            Voter ID and voter laws are two separate Issues except in your mind. Reason for low turn out is due to voting for the lessor of two evils and lack of quality people .It has nothing to do with what you believe and the rags you read .

          5. bobnstuff says:

            I will agree that this last time our choices were between to two really bad candidates.

          6. Retired says:

            It has been that way since Kennedy was Murdered .

          7. bobnstuff says:

            I don’t know, I kind of like Bob Dole.

  • Linonweb says:

    I think they are afraid of starting a race war. So sad. We all used to get along better prior to 8 years ago.

    1. Retired says:

      Obama started the race war .

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  • Dea Whyte-Mansburten says:

    Nogs are afraid that the po-po will discover outstanding warrants on blacks if they have to present or apply for IDs.

    1. Retired says:

      That includes Whites and Illegals as well .

      1. Dea Whyte-Mansburten says:

        Illegos are not white, of course…until the DOJ starts counting them as “criminals.” And whites do not typically ignore bench warrants, as they don’t look like every other white, and don’t want to be arrested and go to prison. Prison is like a luxury vacation to nogs.

        1. Retired says:

          Sorry to burst your Bubble , but living in Demon Rat country there are many whites picked up weekly wanted by law enforcement .

          1. Dea Whyte-Mansburten says:

            Of course, since white are the majority (still), but nogs commit the most violent crimes per capita…even if you still believe they are only 13% of the population. Cite me some examples of white murders who torture, mutilate, or set their victims on fire! No, this is straight Africa.

          2. Retired says:

            What part of Demon Rat country don’t you Understand ?? Demon country has the Highest welfare and free stuff . The black and Muslims are taking over .

        2. bobnstuff says:

          Race has little to do with being a criminal although Blacks do get longer sentences and are more likely to get jail time. Whites are every bit as likely to ignore warrant’s as any other race.

          1. Dea Whyte-Mansburten says:

            Blacks need to be deported to special prisons in Haiti…so they can play the race card all day long…see how far it gets them.

          2. bobnstuff says:

            You don’t know many blacks do you? Do you know that you ,as I guess are white, have a much greater chance of being killed by another white person then by a black. Most of your beliefs about Black are based on misinformation.

          3. Dea Whyte-Mansburten says:

            I have seen many sensible Blacks on youtube (many are Trump supporters; as I gather you voted for Ms. Pantsuit)…otherwise, I’d believe all blacks were ignorant felons belonging to BLM. But, not unlike Islam, negroes need more vocal “civilized, 21st Century” example to speak up against the BLM crowd.

          4. Retired says:

            You win , figuring out bobnstuff , a big BSer .

          5. Lkfeinb says:

            This is the only web site that would tolerate your BS.
            It shouldn’t be allowed. France doesn’t allow editorial stations that promote fake news like FOX. That is why a moderate won by 65%.

          6. Artemis says:

            By the fact that there are way more whites, simple math, NOT Rocket Science….Why don’t you people stop fighting the Civil War, Blacks included?

          7. bobnstuff says:

            Here’s a fact. Whites kill whites and blacks kill black as a rule. The most likely person to shot you is someone you know. Strangers don’t kill strangers very often. You spouse is the first person they will look at if you are found murdered.

          8. JYuma says:

            Your are correction your facts.
            There is one thing that you are wrong about.
            DWM, is not misinformed.
            DWM, is not Informed about anything at ALL.
            DWM, is a Stupid assed Racist!!!
            Oh! Ya! I am White!

          9. ipsd48 says:

            not according to FBI statistics

          10. bobnstuff says:

            “While the image references 2015, the year is not over, and no official numbers have been released. The latest data comes from the FBI for 2014. This table contrasts Trump’s figures with the official ones.”

            Trump # FBI # Error factor
            Blacks killed by whites 2% 8% 4 times
            Blacks killed by blacks 97% 90% Just a little off
            Whites killed by whites 16% 82% 5.4 times
            Whites killed by blacks 81% 15% 5.4 times

          11. JYuma says:

            Which the Blacks ,Killing every one like they are.
            What color do you think that they will run out of First?

          12. Lkfeinb says:

            Bob, I don’t know who you are, but you always have rational answers.
            Do you think that after Trump revealed highly highly classified information to the Russians from one of our partners about ISIS that any of the fools on this site may turn around?
            This man is dangerous to the world. We have got to get him out of there!!
            It would be interesting to see how these people defend him when there is no defense.

          13. bobnstuff says:

            The standard here is deny, redirect or call names. Any fact that isn’t agreed with is fake news and all links are liberal fake news. The National Review was once call a left wing rag as has Consumer Report. Most people here think Trump can do no wrong and will attack like a rabid dog if they are cornered. Many people here hate Obama and will claim he destroyed the country. It’s a fun place to play.

          14. Lkfeinb says:

            OK, keep playing. We need you

          15. Paul Dean says:

            Where are you getting your BS? msnbc? cnn? the view? huffpost? salon? You lost, bubba. Suck it up.

          16. Artemis says:

            So you can “install” your lack of morality, and principles in OUR GOVERNMENT? Communism has failed the world over, I suggest that you do a “reality check”…….

          17. JYuma says:

            Trump, did nothing that he, as President can not do Legally!
            I know that you know better than the 3 other Top people in that room do. You have proven that with the other Bull that you Opine about!

          18. Lkfeinb says:

            It may have been legal, but stupid and immoral. It was made legal for national security reasons, not for bragging rights. Loose lips sink ships and Trump has definitely caused some people working against ISIS to be killed. How utterly irresponsible and , even criminal, even if he cannot be prosecuted for it.

          19. JYuma says:

            More Fake News.
            When did Trump get someone Killed.
            Do you have any of the Facts as to what he told the Russians?
            No, All you have is something that a person, that hates him almost as much as you do said. Even though that person was not there when it was said.
            The people in the room have said that Trump did nothing Illegal, that was Damaging to this country. They All are well known for their Honesty.
            I will believe them , before I will believe a parer or Media report from a Source , that has Lied, Printed cause reports about Trump, every day that he has been in the White House.

          20. bobnstuff says:

            Tell the family of this seal who great Trump is. they might not know. The next group that will die are the people who will lose their health insurance under Trumpcare.

          21. JYuma says:

            The Raid of which you speak, was planed in the last two months of last year. Trump had no hand in it.It was to have taken place before he took office, but was held up by the Military . Trump had No , hand in that ,too.
            I have never seen any where that Trump had any knowledge , of or the he even Ordered, the Rid.
            I have seen where o’bozo did.
            I Truly Hate to see any of our Service men, die from any kind of Action that they are ordered to undertake.

          22. JYuma says:

            At least he is fighting them.Thats more than that Freaking Indonesia. If you read more reports you will fin that this raid as I said was planed ,ok by your president.
            OH YEA HE IS!!!! You keep defending what he CAUSED on Trump!
            Go find , and read the Complete report.

          23. bobnstuff says:

            I guess you must miss those body bags coming in every day or so. Don’t worry President Trump will fix that for you.

          24. JYuma says:

            You ARE a Very Stupid Piece of Shit aren’t YOU???

          25. bobnstuff says:

            You do know that boots on the ground means body bags, right. We have been bombing the heck out of them for years. Trump is already starting to send more people in, he’s doubled the troops so far.

          26. JYuma says:

            I do not care for t Either.
            Trump is doing what the Generals want to do. They have control.
            Maybe, Just maybe. If they run the War, they will WN it. Not like Viet Nam, or Iraq. were we Won, and the Congress and the President pull the Troops before we had completed training the country Army on how to stand and Fight instead of running like The Cowards they are!

            But you do not have to worry, about us sending to many more of our troops over there.
            For before too long those that o’bozo, brought in will start there things like they are doing in Europe.

          27. bobnstuff says:

            Why did we pull the troops out of Iraq? Do you know? We tried for six months to negotiate for 10,000 to stay but in the end there was no deal and we left. The pull out was set up before Obama was elected. The thing is we should have never been there in the first place or Viet Nam for that matter. Also who many Terrorist in the US have been refugees? In Europe it’s the same. With all those refugees in Europe they are still safer there then we are here from being murdered.

          28. JYuma says:

            O’bozo, wanted out, He promised to pull us out. Had he not done that we may have been able to stop ISIS before they got big.
            There was to be a Pull out yes, there were to be ? of troops left for training , they were pulled to. When the troops were pulled all the Equipment , Tanks, were left there .ISIS went in and Armed themselves with our equipment that o’bozo left there.
            As for how many of the refugees have been Terrorists. I believe there have caught about 300 so far.
            The most published were the Brothers in Boston.
            We may never should have been in Nam , we did have a Defense agreement with them. That is why we wen there. Iraq, He was training , the Highjackers. I know tat you will doubt me on this. They found an area in Bagdad, that had planes, that they trained in how to take over one.
            As for Europe being safer? How many comings have we had here? How many drive up on side walks have we had.
            No, the FBI have been on their Toes and have kept us safe for Terrorists. But not from each other.

          29. bobnstuff says:

            If you truly care about the facts of the matter you might want to do some reading on it because I have found that much of what you are saying doesn’t hold up when you look at all the facts. At the time of the pull out the Iraqi troops seemed to be doing OK and ISIS wasn’t in the picture. We equipped the Iraq Army and if was because of their running away from battle that ISIS got any of our weapons. The facts and the time line is worth understanding if you care.

            As far as refugees as terrorist, it just doesn’t happen.

            As far as Vietnam we were the reason for the war in the first place. In 1954 there were to be free election, the French were leaving. We blocked those elections because we didn’t like the man who was going to win. I could get into a long history lesson here but the whole thing started by the US sticking our noise in were we shouldn’t have. We did it in Iran also. If you look at all the leaders we have forced on other countries just since WW II you will see just how little we learn from our mistakes.

          30. JYuma says:

            I believe that there were to about 50,000 troops left in Iraq at the end of the pull out. oboma, was for 10,000. Iraq wanted 25.000. boom, pulled all. He did leave
            1,000 tanks, and other equipment store there. When the Iraq troops run . ISIS did get their equipment and the Stored equipment.. It was BIG News in the rest of the World. Not here, but every where else.
            Yes, I do care. I just spent a week, proving to you that you have a problem understanding the wording in the Constitution.

            As for Viet Nam. Indeed, In 1954, Ho Chi Min, did indeed come here, talked to Eisenhower.He ask him for arms money ,so that he could, fight the Government of South Viet Nam, free them from control of the French.
            At that time, France was a Friend of this country’s, we had just saved their butts from the Germans. Eisenhower, told them NO. That is when Ho Chi Min, went to China , for the Arms, and became a Communist.
            As for your getting into a BIG long History lesson here!
            I Lived it.

          31. Lkfeinb says:

            OMG! Aren’t you embarrassed to write this sht?

          32. JYuma says:

            No more than you are for writing your Illiterate Crap!!!!

          33. ipsd48 says:

            Amazing how the left didn’t bother counting american KIAs while Obama was in office, but IMMEDIATLY jump on it when dems lose

          34. JYuma says:

            Or the Homeless either!!!

          35. Lkfeinb says:

            He was bragging to our enemies that he knew soooooooo much info.
            He told them the city the informant lived in. It was Israeli intelligence.
            No, it wasn’t illegal, but most people in that job know not to divulge classified info even if he is allowed to. Do you not think that ISIS will look for the Israeli mole?
            Of course it hurt us. Other countries rely on us and will not share information so easily with this motor mouth in the White House. Would you? It takes years to form a relationship with someone who will betray ISIS. It is for our safety that we have inside information. He has compromised us by his stupid mouth and by having Russian Agents in the Oval Office in the first place.

          36. JYuma says:

            You really need to take your meds.
            I have read your posts for about two weeks. To this date. You have said nothing with any Intelligence, about any subject that you have make a statement on.
            Your knowledge of what the President , may or may not do is Third Grade..
            As far as I am Concerned. Having two Russian Diplomats in the Oval Office is much more preferable than having 17 Muslims, in the White House as the Last President had!

          37. ipsd48 says:

            Asking a question based on a lie doesn’t show perspicuity………………just partisanship

          38. Lkfeinb says:

            Wishing they were lies does not make it so.

    2. Artemis says:

      Isn’t that just too bad now…..Washington has no conscience or relevance in my mind….what a “crock”!

  • Ramon1710 . says:

    “The Supreme Court is leaving in place a ruling that struck down North Carolina’s voter identification law as unconstitutional because it was intended to suppress the votes of African Americans.”

    It’s amazing how people (The SC) so stupid and self-absorbed can be put in charge of dictating the actions of others. I’d like to hear from Sotomayor, Roberts, Kagan, or Ginsburg if they think blacks can’t present ID because they are viewed by the so-called “Supreme Court” as too stupid or lazy to get it, or exactly what their brilliant insight entails.

    1. Retired says:

      Many can not get a state ID as they are wanted on a warrant ,it is that simple . That is why so many drive without a license and it is not just Blacks , there are Illegals and whites in the sane boat .

      1. John R says:

        i agree,however, those people shouldn’t be voting anyway. So, the ID requirement isn’t an issue.

        1. Retired says:

          Those are the people Demon Rats Support .

      2. Rick D. says:

        Am I missing something? By your logic, if you are facing legal action, then you should still be able to vote? So, I’m free to go to the voting booth but I need to avoid revealing who I am? Explain to me how that makes sense or should be condoned!!

        1. Retired says:

          The greater majority are Criminals that have broken parole violation and would end up in prison . You are mixing up parking ticket warrants and Criminal warrants . Like in my state most are from out of state because we have a high paying welfare system which is common in democrat controlled states .

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