No Pipeline For You! Feds Deny Permit for Dakota Access

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December 5, 2016

Pipeline DeniedFederal officials have denied the final permits required for the Dakota Access Pipeline project in North Dakota.

The Army Corps of Engineers on Sunday announced it would instead conduct an environmental impact review of the 1,170-mile pipeline project and determine if there are other ways to route it to avoid a crossing on the Missouri River.

“Although we have had continuing discussion and exchanges of new information with the Standing Rock Sioux and Dakota Access, it’s clear that there’s more work to do,” Army Assistant Secretary for Civil Works Jo-Ellen Darcy said in a statement.

“The best way to complete that work responsibly and expeditiously is to explore alternate routes for the pipeline crossing.”

The announcement comes one day before the Army Corps of Engineers’ deadline for demonstrators to leave the protest site. The governor of North Dakota had also issued an emergency evacuation order.

  • Patriot41

    Nothing new here as the Keystone pipeline tactics instigated by the democrat leaders are still enforce. They have spent their wad on renewable energy and rather then admit defeat, they continue to stall efforts to use our natural resources to our benefit.

    There have been multiple studies done on the hazards of the pipeline project and nothing was found that would endanger this nation, yet it has been denied under the Obama administration. So another study must be done so that it too can be denied.

    Solutions to this problem can occur if Trump makes it alive to the White House and tells the Army Engineers to get off their butts and approve the paperwork.

    As for the Indian resistance, give them access to some of the fuel that they need, to provide energy on their reservations. There is nothing sacred about a burial ground, as the body returns to the earth and the spirit leaves the body at death. Get over it!

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  • Ed Stahl

    Hey folks! Have any of you read about history with Indians (Native Americans)! They were first! When people moved West they systematically tried to eradicate all Indians. After all they were here first and so theoretically they owned it! But alas guns rule over knives and bows and arrows! ( It is likely to happen again — when All guns are taken away)! Gov and terrorists will still be armed! Can you guess who will win??– Govern- ment or terrorists!- Sometimes the spread is very similar in nature! Now when there were just a few of them left they (govt) herded all them “like cattle– eventually ending in New Mexico (very desolate country mostly)! And of course to South Dakota Which is for the most part a “sand pit” also– not a whole lot grows there in some places! They adapt and eke out a living there! — Now it becomes apparent a big oil pipeline should cross the Missouri river ….. Now the people up stream said “no pipeline crossing above our town– move it down and go across Indians land! If it brakes and pollutes (so what)! Anybody ever stop to think — Native Americans do not have reservation extended down stream to the ocean! … Oh that is right- Gov. will put a “restraining order” on the oil, – and it will pollute Indian land only! Good luck on that one! Maybe Al Gore can call it “global warming”!

    Now I am not an Indian– ( I am of Germanic heritage – second generation from immigrant parents on fathers side)! — But I went to school long enough ago to be able to read history books! But my wife is-(Indian -69 years old) She told me how she was afraid to leave the reservation, and if any one caught off of it– were subject to being shot on sight!– young children and even under 5 years old- 14 years old “were for target practice! Check history and WW2.. Native American “heroes” helped to save hundreds and possibly thousands or more American iives (white man,– iIdians awr American too incidentally)! In fact they were here and were “first Americans” technically! They come home- and again they are shot at like unwanted preditory animals! Note, these people are human beings too!

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  • Evidently none of you have seen or heard of the mess the Army Corp of Engineers made out on Interstate 27 here in South Florida.. They quite in the middle of what ever it was they were suppose to do. They left the place all torn up and have never come back to at least level the ground and fill in the big craters they made.. It looks awful to have to drive by and see it. They need to be responsible for undoing and well as doing. Whose tax dollars pays for these mess ups? OURS!!!!! in case no one knew.

  • justinwachin

    The route should have been studied much earlier in the process. I have no problem seeing a study done to make sure the pipeline is done in a safe and environmentally reasonable manner. But that study needs to be carried out with the idea that it will be done quickly and not used as a way to delay or kill the project.

    It seems to me that a pipeline will be safer and more environmentally friendly than hauling fuel by ground transportation.

  • Bruce Dunlap

    How does this happen? I will bet they had permission to follow this route before starting construction, and no reasonable company would start construction without approval of the route; but now it is denied.

    There needs to be some ‘media’ research to tell us how this happened.

    • Rodney Steward

      What media do we have we can trust, FOX is the only one, and they’re slowly going to he$$!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Nam1

    If they can’t go over, they’ll go under. They can incorporate Horizontal Directional drilling to lay the piping under the river… Technology that’s been available to the big oil companies for some time now.

    • Rodney Steward

      This was the plan!

      • Nam1

        Yep.

    • Elaine

      It was designed to be an underground pipeline. The way I see it, if the British and French can manage to design the Chunnel that goes underneath the English Channel, surely American technicians can design a pipeline to safely go underneath a reservoir. Methinks this nothing more than Obama politics at play here.

      • Nam1

        Me thinks you are right… That will change come January.

        • Elaine

          Woo hoo!!

    • NM Leon

      Yep, that was the plan, and would/will only be an addition to the 8 pipelines already going under the river.

      • Elaine

        I didn’t know there were already 8 (count ’em, EIGHT) pipelines already under the river! So, what’s the beef? Could it be …… politics??

        • bobnstuff

          It’s not the pipeline it’s where it is that’s the problem. Other pipelines were put in safer places.

  • Dave Jackson

    I haven’t studied the enumerated powers thoroughly but I’m curious. What
    constitutional authority gives the federal government the power to regulate
    state lands? My understanding is: the federal government owns the land
    of Washington DC and any port or fort within individual states. The Constitution excludes the federal government from owning any other land within the United States unless that land was relinquished to the government from that specific state for a specific purpose. So if the federal government doesn’t own
    the land within the state then how do they have the authority to regulate it? I could be wrong but I’m just asking.

    • teaman

      It’s the EPA stupid rules from Obama, The Executive Anus!!

      • bobnstuff

        EPA was created by Nixon and has done a lot of good. Cleaning up our water and air has made a big difference in our country. I don’t know about you but I like having clean water. In this case how ever it’s the Army Corp Engineers that are giving the thumbs down.

        • mudguy1

          True but all too many EPA regulations go far beyond whats needed to have and keep clean water and air.

          • bobnstuff

            You would think that but as a rule when a new regulation goes on the books it because someone has found a new was to harm the environment. If people were responsible and cared about there neighbors we wouldn’t need all the rules but since that isn’t the case the many need to be protected from the few. I hate rules as much as the next guy but I also like how in my like time my environment has improved. Dead streams coming back to life, rivers that once we open sewers now having fishing contests on them. If you don’t think the regulations are needed look at what happens when they are taken off. Here is a link that tells how the regulations are created.
            https://www.epa.gov/laws-regulations/basics-regulatory-process

          • NM Leon

            “as a rule when a new regulation goes on the books it because someone has found a new was to harm the environment.”

            Bullschitte. Obozo has imposed more than 80,000 pages of new regulations costing more than $100,000,000 per year. They weren’t because people discovered new ways to be harmful.

          • bobnstuff

            You understand that they don’t just sit around trying to think of ways to make things harder for people.

          • NM Leon

            You understand that they do “sit around” making up new regulations because that’s part of rising in their job? In exactly the same way it benefits a factory worker to increase efficiency of a process (promotion, pay raise, power) it benefits a bureaucrat to make more rules.

            Bureaucrats are for the most part the same as everyone else, more interested in furthering their own self interest and well being than any theoretical “greater good”.

      • Dave Jackson

        I know it’s the EPA and I agree rules are stupid. And your comment of Obama I fully agree. But my question is: what in our Constitution gives the authority to EPA to regulate state land? In my opinion the EPA, the BLM and other established agencies by Congress and or the president have no constitutional authority over state land. At least I can’t find it.

        • teaman

          You might be one of many to finally catch on. Obama could care less about the Constitution or the BLM. He has violated more laws this past eight years than any POTUS ever. Remember, the Army, all of the Army works for Obama, The Executive Anus, who has pushed EPA crap hard for the last 8 years. Wasted millions on failed green energy programs. Yes, we need to be good Stuarts off the land God gave us, but we don’t nee the money grubbing EPA lying idiots!

        • NM Leon

          It’s federal land, as is all BLM land. Arguably it shouldn’t be, but it is and (usually) has been since before the states existed.

    • jandjnesbitt@aol.com

      It was probably something else that was hidden within the Obumblecare 10,000 etc. pages…You know…The one where Pelosi said: “We have to pass it to see what’s in it”… This is normal daily business for the Democrook, Libtard Party of Corruption. Trump will get it done.

      • bobnstuff

        The rules are not new ones and in fact go back a long ways. I had to deal with them in the 90’s but they weren’t new then. As far as I know the law was part of the Clean Water Act of 1972 so blaming on Obama is silly.

        • jandjnesbitt@aol.com

          Bobby…what’s silly is “We have to pass it to see what’s in it” Where the Democrooks used corruption as usual in the huge and disastrous obumblecare bill to hide and sneak many things in…and it would not at all surprise anyone to find it in there due to the very long history of Democrook Party Corruption… Obysmal is behind it. It could have just as easily been approved. But Obysmal and the Democrooks do not want America to ever be great and stand on its own. Don’t be afraid though Bobby. Trump will fix it and make America Great Again. This pipeline will run.

          • Rodney Steward

            Go easy, you’re getting over his head!!

          • bobnstuff

            The US government did not start with Obama and his people didn’t make all the rules. These rule predate him by 40 years. Anytime you build a pipeline under a river you must get it signed off. This isn’t a new thing. Any time you deal with any body of running water you must get it cleared with the EPA, also not a new rule.

          • jandjnesbitt@aol.com

            Doesn’t matter what the “rules” are Bobby… Obysmal could have cleared the way…he and the Democrooks chose not to…Obysmal and the Democrooks want America to remain dependent. That’s not going to happen with Trump…It’s just more stupid Obysmal disfunction that Trump will correct. We are counting the days Bobby. Stock up on your tissues. You’ve got a lot more crying and whining to do.

          • bobnstuff

            Go take a look at the project, forget Republican or Democrat for a minute all take a good look at what they are doing. To save 13 miles of pipeline they are running it under a wide spot in the river increasing the risk to everyone down stream. It’s not about building a pipeline, most people don’t care one way or another about another pipeline. It’s where they want to put it. The builders know in 2014 that there was going to be a problem with their route but went ahead with it anyway. Under most presidents there would be a problem getting the project signed of on. Everyone who knows anything has pointed out the mistakes here. Trump will approve it though, not because he has studied it and knows that it’s a good project but because his uninformed followers want him to.

          • bobnstuff

            Why would Obama want to change the rules? The reason the rules are there is to protect people. As I have said over and over I’m not against pipelines. I’m not even against this pipeline. I’m against taking risks with millions of people water. Move the pipeline up river to where it’s a much shorter line under the river.

          • NM Leon

            There are already 8 other pipelines crossing under the river there.

            Why would Obozo want to change the rules?? Are you kidding?? Obozo has added more than 20,000 new regulations, more than 80,000 pages, costing more than $100 Billion a year.

          • bobnstuff

            No there isn’t. If there was then there wouldn’t be all this fuss. There are pipelines running under the river but not there. This isn’t the original route, that one was to dangerous to the Bismark water supply. As far as the regulations costing more then $100 billion dollars. just who does it cost the money to? Also is that number all that much bigger then other president? it turns out it’s just a little bit higher the Bush.

          • NM Leon

            It takes $100 Billion out of the economy each year, ultimately paid by the taxpayer, disproportionately by the middle class.

            Obozo is way ahead of either GW or Clinton (neither of which were so great). https://regulatorystudies.columbian.gwu.edu/sites/regulatorystudies.columbian.gwu.edu/files/downloads/MIDNGHT_econsig_0.png

          • bobnstuff

            You do understand they spend all that money in the economy. They pay people to meet the regulations. It’s a jobs program. Just like accounts jobs are created by the tax code. If you make the tax code simple you put an entire industry out of business. There is an industry based on government regulations. It’s a $100 billion dollar a year business.

          • NM Leon

            You are obviously totally ignorant of economics and I’m not even going to try to teach you.

            Go to the library and check out “Basic Economics” by Thomas Sowell. It’s a textbook, but written without all the technical jargon so that the average person can read and understand it.

            When you have read it, come back here and read your own post. You will be thoroughly embarrassed at the level of ignorance you displayed.

          • bobnstuff

            I think you might just want to re read that book. Any time money changes hands it is as part of the economy. Much of our economy is now service based, those people don’t make things but they still turn dollars. Accountants are a example of members of the service economy. So is the guy that is hired to do nothing but make sure you are not breaking the regulations. Another part of the economy of regulation conformity is the special equipment needed to stay legal. Air scrubbers, sensing equipment and safety gear. Someone has to manufacture those products. It’s all part of the economy. In other words regulations create jobs. It’s all part of the cost of doing business. If you ever write a business plan these costs are part of it. It usually listed next to licenses, accounting cost and insurance.

          • NM Leon

            Read the book. You are ignorant as a brick and don’t know it. Trying to teach you economic theory (and yes I have 3 years of university econ) would take far too long.

          • bobnstuff

            I taught business classes on a college level.

            “An economy (Greek οίκος-household and νέμoμαι – manage) or economic system consists of the production, distribution or trade, and consumption of limited goods and services by different agents in a given
            geographical location.”

          • NM Leon

            Then you really have no excuse for your ignorance. In your world it would work to have a nation of government workers. That has been tried and failed on numerous occasions in the 20th century, always accompanied by mass murder.

          • bobnstuff

            I’m amazed in how little you understand about these regulations. The cost isn’t on the government end, it’s the business that pays the price of them. I have own four different types of business and have dealt with regulations in all of them. Enforcement costs are low and in a lot of cases the government turns a profit on them, more fine money then cost. Everyone attacks the EPA for their regulations but more of those new regulation can from all the other regulatory bodies. Would you want to get ride of all of them? No FDA to protect us from dangers drugs, no Department of Transportation, no Consumer Product Protection Agency, no Department of Agriculture, no Bureau of Mines, no FAA, etc. All these agencies produced new regulations. You say that leave this all to the states, the federal government doesn’t need to be involved but if you did that each state would have it’s own rules and it would be even more costly for businesses who operated in more then one state to keep up with them. One of the reasons our founding fathers had for creating the United States of America was interstate commerce. Uniform rules across the land making doing business easier. It all comes down to who do you trust? Do you trust businesses to look out for your best interests even when it will cost their bottom line? Do you trust businesses to know all the dangers to both their employees and to you and deal with them without help? I learn a lot from the health department when I was in the food service business, thing I wouldn’t have thought of myself but that could have cause damage. The book 1984 gave us the idea of Big Brother watching us as a very bad thing but there are times when your big brother can keep you out of trouble.

          • NM Leon

            Let me guess, you were fired from the college because they didn’t want a communist teaching business?

            “The cost isn’t on the government end, it’s the business that pays the price of them.” Jeez, go to the library and get the textbook. Businesses don’t pay any costs, their customers do.

            “each state would have it’s own rules and it would be even more costly for businesses who operated in more then one state to keep up with them.”

            Newsflash since states (and countries) do make their own regulations, businesses already have to deal with differing sets of regs. Fed regs are just another (largely duplicative and time consuming) layer.

            One of my businesses was buying US Army backup generators from the Property Disposal Office in W. Germany, reconditioning them (in a customs bonded shop), and selling them to the Nigerian government. I dealt with regs from US Army, Germany, Nigeria, and the ICS.

            Another was converting, shipping and selling German spec autos to US customers. US DOT, EPA, German, and ICS regs.

            Another (which I still have an interest in) is designing and installing IT systems for rural hospitals and clinics. OSHA, EPA, and FCC regs.

            I currently own an oilfield services company doing business in TX, NM, and OK. I deal with the RRC, OCD, and OCC regs ad nauseam, and then have to deal with (largely duplicative) EPA regs.

            Believe me, I am well familiar with the hassle and cost cost of regulations. The cost of compliance is proportionately greater on me as a small business than it is on a large company, putting me at a competitive disadvantage.

            http://www.forbes.com/sites/williamdunkelberg/2016/07/12/the-cost-of-regulations/#2b21d25a416e

          • NM Leon

            “Any time you deal with any body of running water you must get it cleared with the EPA, also not a new rule.”

            Actually even standing water, fairly new (May 2015), put in place under Obozo, and probably one of the first regs repealed by Trump and the GOP. Trump will emasculate or eliminate the Employment Prevention Agency.

          • bobnstuff

            I guess you want to drink chemical waste. Cancer isn’t a problem for you. You don’t need clean air. These are the things that the EPA regulate. Water is the one thing you can’t live without but you are will to risk it for what? Are you old enough to remember what it was like before these regulations? I am and I don’t want my grandchildren living in that world. In the case of this pipeline the rules are very old.

          • NM Leon

            I guess you are an idiot. It’s not a matter of disaster or perfection, there is a middle ground that’s reasonable.

            By the way, every state has it’s own EPA, and they are more able to pass reasonable regs than are the feds.

            We had EPA regs imposed on a village of 700 in NM that I lived in, halting the burning of trash and burying in a landfill. It more than tripled the cost of disposal for an extremely small, extremely rural village who couldn’t have generated significant pollution in 1000 years, but according to EPA the rules that might make sense in a large metro area applied equally to a tiny village…idiocy.

    • Rodney Steward

      Look at Lavoy Finicum, the rancher murdered on state land by the FBI AND BATFE in cold blood! The gov. can do basically what ever it wants!

    • NM Leon

      All but the original 13 colonies and Texas were federally owned territories before they were states. When they gained statehood the federal government ceded them land, but not all of it.

      The feds didn’t take state land (with a few notable exceptions), they kept fed land. As to whether they should have kept that land, that’s another question altogether.

      • chris berrian

        The north west ordnance was supposed to become usa but old George Washington screwed the pooch on that when he never took the proper Oath to the usa

    • chris berrian

      Dave I hate to say but George Washington never took the Oath of office for president of the United States of America. He took the Oath for the north west territory which is called the united states. A federal land that consists of Michigan, minisota, Indiana and a couple more states that we took from king george the 111. The 13 states that radified the original Constitution the Confedration never was put into force and from this day not one president has taken the Oath to be the president of the United states of america that would restrain the president by the articles of cofederation. The Only power the president of the United States has is legislative power over federal government and lands.
      Check out the Organic laws institute taught by Dr. Edwin vieira jr.

  • gerald Hughes

    There are going to be a large number of these people hunting work as soon as Trump takes office., then the permit will be issued.
    Just because Obama told you to do this, does not relieve of responsibility.

    • ArcticGrayling

      Obama wants them to be out of work. That gives the government more wards of the state.

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  • dosadoe

    Who gave the Army Corp of Engineers the power to say that certain projects on private lands cannot proceed? This looks like another part of the swamp that needs draining!

    • bobnstuff

      I trust the Army Corp of Engineers a lot more then a pipeline company or politicians. The river they are crossing is public land and covered by many federal laws and rules. Because that river runs through a number of states it falls under interstate commerce.

      • Rodney Steward

        This isn’t much coming from a man that voted for Obama twice, can we say uninformed!

      • Elaine

        It is Obama who tells the Army Corps of Engineers what to do.

        • Rodney Steward

          Bingo!!

        • bobnstuff

          You really believe that the Army Corp of Engineers would take that order? These aren’t political hacks. This is part of the military. There is very little presser the out going president could put on them.

          • Elaine

            Think about what you just said. Military. Commander in Chief. Two plus two ….

          • bobnstuff

            Here is what Obama said about the pipeline.
            “My view is that there is a way for us to accommodate sacred lands of Native Americans. And I think that right now the Army Corps is examining whether there are ways to reroute this pipeline,” Obama said in the video interview.
            I didn’t hear him say not to build it, did you?

          • NM Leon

            Did you hear the phone call Obozo made to Eric Fanning, or perhaps directly to General Stevens? Yeah, didn’t think so.

          • bobnstuff

            I know that Obama has opened more land for drilling then any other president. I also know that the only reason we aren’t producing oil at a record pace is the price on the world market. Obama isn’t anti oil. You don’t hear the environmentalists singing his praises. What he doesn’t want to be though is the president that helped create a major disaster buy not listening to the experts. Have you noticed how he hasn’t said a lot about this.

          • Elaine

            The increase in production of oil and natural gas in this country is not because of anything Obama did. Quite the opposite. This “boom” is happening on private land, not federal land. In 2013, the Obama administration sold the lowest amount of oil and
            gas leases since 1988 and approved the fewest drilling permits since
            2002. Getting a permit approved on federal lands take 194 days on
            average.

          • bobnstuff
          • NM Leon

            You are delusional. Obozo hasn’t “opened up” anything.

            In 1988, there were 80,570 oil and gas leases, 82 percent more than in 2015. In 2009, at the beginning of the Obama administration, there were 53,431 oil and gas leases, but by 2015, the total number of leases had dropped to 44,213.

            In 2015, just 852 leases were issued, down by more than 1,000 percent from 9,234 in 1988 – and less than half of the 2,072 leases issued in 2009.

            You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

          • bobnstuff
          • NM Leon

            You mean like these (from your link, lol)?

            Obama blocks new oil drilling in Arctic Ocean, keeps Gulf of Mexico open

            Obama blocks new oil drilling on Pacific coast

            The Obama administration also hopes to make parts of Alaska off-limits to oil and gas development.

            Instead of doing a Bing search (that you don’t read, lol), look at actual data.
            https://www.data.bsee.gov/homepg/data_center/leasing/WaterDepth/wdlist.asp
            http://www.eia.gov/analysis/requests/federallands/pdf/eia-federallandsales.pdf

          • Elaine

            Obama presides over the Army Corps of Engineers, and is holding back in order to shift the responsibility of this decision to the Trump administration. That’s all there is to it. It’s politics.

          • johnt

            Relisten to other species obama has made in the past about that pipeline… And after he put those 10,000 out of work with the swipe of the same pen he put 12,000 more oil workers out of their jobs here on the gulf Coast… So I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that obama is the cause for atleast 21,000 jobs just in the south and midwest…with the swipe of his pen…maybe with a swipe of someone else’s pen obama and his vacationing family will disappear, never to return…

          • bobnstuff

            You don’t suppose that a fall in oil prices had anything to do with the cut back in production do you. Obama approves pipeline, not stupid ones but he has worked with the industry on pipelines.
            https://www.pipelinesinternational.com/2016/06/30/obama-approves-pipes-act-2016/
            Here something to think about. The pipeline was approved except for the choice of the location to cross the river. This is the only part that isn’t approved and no one ever said they couldn’t make a river crossing, just not there. This pipeline had been approved at a different spot to cross the river until some one noticed that the original point of crossing put the water supply for Bismark in danger. The new choice is an even worse location.
            Other pipelines have been approved.
            http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/us-canada-pipeline-approved/4071
            http://yournewswire.com/obama-secretly-approves-two-new-dakota-pipelines/

      • NM Leon

        Yeah, but you’re an idiot libtard. That’s okay, come Jan you will complete the journey to irrelevancy.

    • NM Leon

      It’s federal land they aren’t permitting, not private.

    • johnt

      The Army Corp of Engineers has the last say when it comes to our waterways… As soon as the bitch is gone and she takes her husband with her The Corp will find a way to make everybody happy except the before mentioned…and find a way to either go around the Missouri or safely cross it…

  • bobnstuff

    The problem isn’t the pipeline but the route. They picked the cheapest not the best route. No matter what the industry says pipelines can and do have problems from time to time and the longer there river crossing the greater the risk of ending up with a major disaster. Millions depend on that water. This year we have had 26 pipeline breaks. Move the line farther north where the river is narrow and reduce the risk. I don’t feel sorry for the pipeline owners, they knew there could be a problem but went ahead anyway. They are putting in a new pipeline about a hundred yards from me and no one has any problems, It’s a good company and they have taken the time to do it right.

    • CrustyOldGeezer

      The Interstate highway system in Colorado had a choice.

      Go over the mountains or go through Glenwood Canyon.

      OVER would have been the fastest and CHEAPEST route, BUT…

      Glenwood Springs, a well known and popular tourist trap would have been bypassed, as would the towns accessible from Glenwood Springs. (including Aspen and numerous ski areas.)

      They stacked the east and west highways through the canyon.

      Now Interstate 70 is often blocked in both directions for hours, days, and a couple of times for weeks due to house sized rocks falling on, and THROUGH the top (westbound) lanes and blocking the eastbound.

      A number of people, whole families, have met their deaths in those rock falls.

      Eisenhower’s “Interstate system” was to MOVE MILITARY from Coast to Coast in the shortest possible time when needed.

      NOT make it easier for tourists and skiers.

      Give a politician an inch, and he won’t care if it doesn’t work, or gets people killed, as long as he spends money on it.

    • Rodney Steward

      Dear bobby, do you know who is pushing this with these paid protesters! Warren Buffet, he bought the railroad system that is hauling the oil right now and making very large profits, and a little help of, yes, Soros! Obama’s just taking orders, after all he’s their pet boy!

      • bobnstuff

        Sorry but your little conspiracy theory is bunk. With only a million barrels per day hauling capacity he doesn’t need any more oil to haul. You can only haul 104 cars per train. Buffet has no reason to spend money on paid protesters.

        • Rodney Steward

          There’s more than one train bobby!!

          • bobnstuff

            As I said they can only handle a million barrels per day and they are running out of tracks. Plus Buffet also owns pipelines in case you didn’t know. Buffet will own part of this pipeline, about 6%.

          • Rodney Steward

            With the pipe line, they can triple the barrels and twice as fast!!!

          • bobnstuff

            And Buffet will own a piece of the action. The pipeline will be built but it my be up river where it should have been from the start.

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