MI Town is 1st American city to elect majority Muslim council

November 6, 2015

The Polish flocked to Hamtramck in the 1900s and evidence of the city’s Polish roots remain.

However, over the last few decades a new wave of immigrants, primarily from the Middle East, South Asia and Southeastern Europe, has dramatically changed the face and culture of this community.

Now, the Hamtramck City Council is going to reflect that diversity.

66 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • reagangs says:

    This can be a modern day model of “How things can go wrong”. So, the rest of the country needs to pay attention as time goes on.

  • Mort Leith says:

    I would have bet it was DEARBORN

  • Vincent Marcantelli says:

    I, as a kid remember that part of the city of Detroit was (clean, not so neat) but had some nice looking girls. But, from ALL indications that whole area has turned to something of a waste land…….a shame, a damm shame, sorry to see and hear about it.

    1. bobnstuff says:

      From what I’m reading Detroit is coming back. They have a long way to go but they seem to be headed up.

  • girls_mom says:

    Enjoy the day all, I have got to get something done in my house and go shopping. I have been so engaged in all that you folks write out here, that I confess, I have let too many important things slip by and I now have to do double-time to get stuff done. It’s been fun. Bless you all! :)))

  • billwhit1357 says:

    I bet it is a city of filth and stinks like feces there now! Islam is the Syphilis of the Soul and allah is satan and all Muslims will be going to Hell to their allah/satan, just as all sinners will. For those who do make it to Heaven, you will be blessed with no Muslims, Homosexuals, or Democrats! Hope I make it, it will truly be HEAVEN without the scum of the earth infesting it.

    1. bobnstuff says:

      I will take that bet. Muslim are really in to clean. More so the Christians. That’s one of their complains about us.

      1. billwhit1357 says:

        So, do you also practice wiping your ass without toilet paper? I worked with these animals and they had their own separate toilet from “normal” folks, a hole in the ground and a water hose, not even soap! So you can have those pigs of Islam. Now, go peddle your ignorance with someone who gives a shit about what you say and stop being a Troll!

        1. bobnstuff says:

          I think you have Muslims and rednecks confused. Just what are you using for toilet paper now that the Sears catalog is gone? Have you ever meet a Muslim? I work with them for six years. They were well educated hard working and honest. The children had parents that made time for them.

        2. bobnstuff says:

          I think you have Muslims and rednecks confused. Just what are you using for toilet paper now that the Sears catalog is gone? Have you ever meet a Muslim? I work with them for six years. They were well educated hard working and honest. The children had parents that made time for them.

        3. bobnstuff says:

          I think you have Muslims and rednecks confused. Just what are you using for toilet paper now that the Sears catalog is gone? Have you ever meet a Muslim? I work with them for six years. They were well educated hard working and honest. The children had parents that made time for them.

        4. bobnstuff says:

          I think you have Muslims and rednecks confused. Just what are you using for toilet paper now that the Sears catalog is gone? Have you ever meet a Muslim? I work with them for six years. They were well educated hard working and honest. The children had parents that made time for them.

        5. bobnstuff says:

          I think you have Muslims and rednecks confused. Just what are you using for toilet paper now that the Sears catalog is gone? Have you ever meet a Muslim? I work with them for six years. They were well educated hard working and honest. The children had parents that made time for them.

        6. bobnstuff says:

          I think you have Muslims and rednecks confused. Just what are you using for toilet paper now that the Sears catalog is gone? Have you ever meet a Muslim? I work with them for six years. They were well educated hard working and honest. The children had parents that made time for them.

        7. bobnstuff says:

          I think you have Muslims and rednecks confused. Just what are you using for toilet paper now that the Sears catalog is gone? Have you ever meet a Muslim? I work with them for six years. They were well educated hard working and honest. The children had parents that made time for them.

        8. bobnstuff says:

          I think you have Muslims and rednecks confused. Just what are you using for toilet paper now that the Sears catalog is gone? Have you ever meet a Muslim? I work with them for six years. They were well educated hard working and honest. The children had parents that made time for them.

          1. disqus_tKlEuAw2uq says:

            Not all men are equal under Islam. Slaves and the handicapped are not equal to healthy free men, for example (16:75-76). The Quran introduces the “Law of Equality,” which establishes different levels of human value when considering certain matters, such as restitution for murder (2:178).

            Neither are Muslim believers equal to non-Muslims:

            Are those who know equal to those who know not? (39:09)

            Is the blind equal to the one who sees” Or darkness equal to light? (13:16)

            A believing slave is superior to an unbeliever (2:221)

            The Quran plainly tells Muslims that they are a favored race, while those of other religions are “perverted transgressors”:

            Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book[Christians and Jews] had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (3:110)

            As we shall see later, Allah condemns non-Muslims to Hell based merely on their unbelief, while believers are rewarded with the finest earthly comforts in the hereafter, including never-ending food, wine and sex (56:12-40).

            Much of the Quran is devoted to distinguishing Muslims from non-Muslims and impugning the latter. Among other things, non-Muslims are said to be diseased (2:10), perverse (2:99), stupid (2:171) and deceitful (3:73).

          2. disqus_tKlEuAw2uq says:

            Muslims are taught to lie to non believers, wake up to what they are doing once they get some power. It is people like you that let them in and then all hell brake loose.

            nce Allah makes such a strong distinction between Muslims and those outside the faith, it is only natural that Muslims should incorporate disparate standards of treatment into their daily lives. The Quran tells Muslims to be compassionate with one another but ruthless to the infidel:

            Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are severe against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves… (48:29)

            The Arabic word used to describe the ideal treatment of non-Muslims (shin-dal-dal) is the same word used in over 25 places in the Quran to describe how painful Allah has made Hell for them.

            Islamic law actually forbids formal Muslim charity (in the form of the zakat payment) from being used to meet the needs of non-believers.

            Allah intends for Muslims to triumph over unbelievers:

            And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way to triumph over believers[Pickthall – “any way of success”] (4:141)

            The only acceptable position of non-Muslims to Muslims is subjugation under Islamic rule:

            Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (9:29 Jizya is the money that non-Muslims must pay to their Muslim overlords in a pure Islamic state.)

            A common criticism of many Muslims is that they often behave arrogantly toward others. Now you know why.

            The Quran Dehumanizes Non-Muslims
            and Says that They are Vile Animals

            The Ayatollah Khomeini, who dedicated his entire life to studying Islam, said that non-Muslims rank somewhere between “feces” and the “sweat of a camel that has consumed impure food.” Small wonder. The Quran dehumanizes non-Muslims, describing them as “animals” and beasts:

            Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)

            Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)

            Verse 7:176 compares unbelievers to “panting dogs” with regard to their idiocy and worthlessness. Verse 7:179 says they are like “cattle” only worse.

            Verse 5:60 says the unbelievers are unclean. Verse 6:111 says they are ignorant. Verse 23:55 says they are helpers of the devil.

            Verse 5:60 even says that Allah transformed Jews of the past into apes and pigs. This is echoed by verses 7:166 and 2:65.

            A hadith (Bukhari 54:524) says that Muhammad believed rats to be “mutated Jews” (also confirmed by Sahih Muslim 7135 and 7136).

            Verses 46:29-35 even say that unbelieving men are worse than the demons who believe in Muhammad.

            According to Islamic law, non-Muslims may be owned as property by Muslims, but – in keeping with Islam’s supremacist message – a fellow Muslim should never be (unless they convert to Islam under enslavement). Even Christians and Jews are not considered fully human in that the penalty for killing one of them is limited to one-third of the compensation due for unintentionally killing a Muslim.

          3. billwhit1357 says:

            I already told you I worked with lots of Muslims at a firm I worked for, who had their own toilet with a hole and a water hose, not even any soap! Maybe the more educated ones use toilet paper, hopefully. I used to hang with a group of them, Turks, at a Turkish local, drinking Raki mixed with water. Were decent people, until 9/11. Are you old enough to remember 9/11/2001?

          4. bobnstuff says:

            As I said are you sure you aren’t talking about redneck with their four rooms and a path. Not even a hose. The guy up the road had an electric light in his out house that looked strange at night with the fiberglass roof. Are you old enough to remember the Oklahoma booming. How about Northern Ireland a few years back.

          5. billwhit1357 says:

            What the hell are you blabbering about now? You don’t even make any sense, just spewing vomit. But, that is to be expected from the uneducated Liberal Leftists of today. No sense, especially Common Sense. No Honor, Dignity, or Integrity within any Liberal like yourself, only full loony tunes. Now, go upstairs, I hear your mama calling you to dinner.

          6. Fred says:

            bob, you sound like you are very young, like young enough to be in kindergarten. I don’t think you remember the Oklahoma “booming” that was when there was a gold rush. So you better get back to school and learn how to spell. I think the word you want is spelled Bomb ? !

          7. Marilyn Z says:

            MOST of them live in a dirt hovel, even in the big cities, and you are right…a hole over the sewer with a jug of water standing by.

            MOST of them rarely bathe…they don’t have baths in their homes and they can’t afford the tiny pittance it costs to go to the hammom.

            My house was built of steel girders and sun dried mud and dung bricks in an arch to hold up the roof with more mud and dung plastered to smooth out the arches on the top and bottom with marble aggregate tiles to cover the mud walls. It was IMPOSSIBLE to heat in the winter and impossible to clean any time….forever dusty.

            You were exposed to the wealthy 1%. I was invited to tea at an army officer’s home to meet his family. He was one of my students and a very nice man. It was winter and in the middle of the room was a little *box* with hot coals in it , over that was a large blanket like thing (it looked like it had never been washed) and we all sat around in a circle with our feet under that very dirty blanket to keep our feet and legs warm.

            Over four years there and I could give you endless examples. There was no trash pickup. Instead a little man came away with a wheelbarrow, rang the bell, you run out with the *trash* (including TP that would stop up the plumbing if you flushed it down). He would empty everything into his cart and the wind was blowing trash out and all over the neighborhood and NO ONE CARED.

            I had to catch a taxi ONE time and was instantly sorry. On the seat back behind the driver was some sort of little louse looking bug crawling along looking for another victim. So gross. One of our friends thought he had hit the jackpot getting fresh milk delivered to his house every day until he met the milkman on the street milking his mare. I was a huge lover of yogurt until I saw the factory with large pots of yogurt in the open air and birds flying freely over head.

            Every night I had to pasteurize about a dozen tiny bottles of milk so my kids would have milk the following day. They did not even have the ability to pasteurize milk and some Americans got deathly ill.

            My son in IT currently works with some. He said one of the biggest problems is getting them to bathe. It is very hard to work with people who smell to high heaven. I was behind one in a checkout line last week and you could hardly breathe with her there. I was afraid people who were behind me would think it was me.

            About a year ago, my son and his family went to a fabulous Persian wedding at the ritziest hotel in Dallas where everyone wore beautiful clothes, wore expensive perfumes and served the finest Persian food. That is an example of the 1%.

      2. disqus_tKlEuAw2uq says:

        they are into raping, killing and torture of people wake up before it is too late.

      3. Marilyn Z says:

        OMG….I lived among them in the Middle East. We considered the fly to be their national bird.

        1. bobnstuff says:

          I have lived among American Muslims and find them better education then most Americans, they have true family values and actually raise their children instead of letting them run wild.

          1. Marilyn Z says:

            I did not let my children run wild, they are now 48 and 51 and well-respected professionals NOR did any of my acquaintances. I still do not know people like that. Do you live in the tenements? Sounds like it.

          2. bobnstuff says:

            I live in a upper middle class suburb. We have a bigger drug problem then the ghetto. The kids drive nicer cars then the drug dealers. They keep the problem out of the news and buy the kids out of jail. We have the best justice system money can buy.

          3. Marilyn Z says:

            I have no doubt it goes on. I heard the other day that 50% of ALL kids have used drugs to some extent. My 48 yo son was over for dinner with his family that same day and I asked him why he was so smart and avoided them. He said he knew we would kill him if he did. Our now 51 yo daughter told us long ago that when we lived abroad and you could walk into any pharmacy and get anything you wanted, she made a conscious decision that it was not for her.

            I, PERSONALLY, do not know even one child who has used drugs illegally…nor do I know any adults using them.

            I live in what they call an affluent suburb, as was our previous hometown where we were PD volunteers and never heard of a problem there either. These are primarily Christian communities in north central Texas. I know my own grands spend a lot of time with church and school activities and their parents keep very close contact with them. Any odd behavior will be noticed immediately.

            I did lecture my kids constantly while they were growing up and told them they would mess up their genes and future children if they did. My teacher daughter says she is convinced that her students with various problems have them because their parents used drugs. She says that once she gets to know the parents it is pretty clear to her what the problem is.

          4. bobnstuff says:

            People that use drugs don’t hang signs around their necks saying drug users. You might be surprised just who are using them. I grow up in the house I live in and there has always been a drug problem here. I worked hotlines and got to see the real world.

          5. Marilyn Z says:

            No, but I found them fairly easy to spot and still do. I worked as a librarian and you could always tell if one walked in who was not quite there although the time I had one pegged and called the police because she could not talk coherently. They came and talked to her and discovered she was diabetic with a blood sugar problem.

            I sat next to a seemingly very nice black man for three months on a grand jury. He was a drug counselor on the side and one day he said EVERYONE under the age of 40 had used drugs including MY children. I said that was not true at all and after that it was like we were sworn enemies and he ragged on me every chance he got.

            I was raised in a house where my father was always talking about the horrible junkies out there. He would have killed any of us kids that he ever thought might be using something.

          6. bobnstuff says:

            I once was stupid enough to think my kids were different form others but now that they are grown up I find that I was just being blind. You can’t always see things right in front of your face. There is a lunch lady in my grandsons school that I have known for years and the other day I found out that she is a junky. You never know. I had a family down the road from me that had a construction company and was doing very well. Now the father and two sons are in jail for drugs and it turns out that the only reason they hadn’t been in jail before was lots of money being paid to a very good lawyer. I have been trained to look for the signs and still am surprised from time to time.

  • girls_mom says:

    Muslim’s aren’t nice even when in the minority.You have to realize that war-mongering groups such as ISIS, Hamas, er al, are in effect, the armies of Islam and its people. There are exceptions to any rule such as: Ann Barnhardt, Brigitte Gabriel -all defectors from Islam and its teachings. These people are all under death threats.
    One notable “good guy,” who truly had to also fear for his life, is Mosab Hassain Yosef, the son of the second- in -command of Hamas. He has become a Christian and also has a website and wrote a book; “Son of Hamas.”

    If you want the truth about Islam, rather than the hype you’ll get from the Left-wing, Progressives, ObaMao, and left-wing posters (out here, especially, and on the Daily Caller) go directly to the “horse’s mouth,” instead, as the old saying goes.

    Here are website links for those who want the truth, and Gabrielle’s link to her facebook account. God protect and keep these courageous people from harm. “The truth will set us free!”




    1. bobnstuff says:

      You put a race baiter website who went out of her way to insult their God on here as proof the they are war mongers. Lets have a contest to draw pictures of Jesus giving BJ’s and see how many death threats you get. Miss Gabriel grow up in a war zone and makes her living off it.

  • teaman says:

    Michigan is becoming the islamic butt kissing state……..and you will be S O R R Y!!!!

  • Debbie says:

    Hope it works out for you,

  • Firbolg says:

    Muslimes are conservative? Only if your idea of conservatism is that practiced in 7th Century Arabia. Thank you, b-n-s, for proving the ‘taqqiyah’ point… deceit of any stripe being encouraged when dealing with kaffirs.

  • bobnstuff says:

    The conservatives are taking over, Muslims are conservatives as a rule, They believe in family values as well as most of the other things the conservatives believe in. The only problem is the old white men of the Tea Party are to blind to understand this. My guess is that this is going to be the only posting here that will not be negative. People are so busy looking for the differences and reasons to hate that they miss the common ground and the shared values. I have known a number of Muslims over the years and I can’t remember any of them getting welfare or even being out of work. It should be interesting to see how this town does.

    1. oldvinnie says:

      You can’t be serious? They will cut off your head some day.

      1. bobnstuff says:

        Thank you for proving my point.

        1. Terry Stromky says:

          http://www.politicalislam.com Please read the Koran. Muslims are allowed to lie to the infidel which is anyone who doesn’t believe in Allah. When they are minority they are nice, majority is when all hell breaks loose. Muslim faith is to live under Sharia law. Their ultimate goal is to dominate the world. The ones cutting heads off in the middle east are doing what their bible tells them to do. You might want to study history of Muslims. brian kilmeade thomas jefferson and the tripoli pirates

          1. bobnstuff says:

            Why don’t you do some studying about the real religion instead of the lies told by non believers. Bill Warner is no religious scholar, He doesn’t even read the language it’s written in. Learning about Islam from him is a great way to be filled with wrong facts and be mislead. His view of Islam is about as the same as studying Christianity from the KKK.

          2. girls_mom says:

            Your’re absolutely correct Terry. Good work!

            The Muslims have two forms of lying to non-believers permitted under certain circumstances: ‘taqiyya’ and ‘kitman.’
            The circumstances are typically those; which, advance the cause of Islam and used without hesitation to gain the trust of non-believers in order to have them drop their guard and become vulnerable,as to defeat them.
            The words are:
            *taqiyya: saying something that isn’t true
            *kitman: this is lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a portion or fragment of verse, neglecting to mention the rest of the verse which would not entirely support the proposition they are trying to fool you about.

            Most people aren’t aware, that, unlike the Tanakh ( the Hebrew bible), and the Christian bible, the Quran never mentions the word “Love” in any form such as “Love they Neighbor as thyself” or “spontaneous, impulsive love” (in Hebrew: ahab) nor a “deliberate choice of affection and kindness,” (in Hebrew: hesed) or universally as to “have compassion, brotherly love ( in Hebrew: raham).”
            When you see the word, Love (which rarely appears) in the Quran, it’s used to define “the love of material things.” not a wife, a child or a friend.

            This alleged religion of peace and love is a misnomer and the antithesis of what it states and how the pervert Mohammed and his deranged followers believe(d) and structured the Quan. .
            Does the avocation of ‘love and peace subscribe’ to a brutal death for any and all who refuse to embrace Islam ( aka non-believers)?
            What I have found that renders Islam useless (a religion that came into being in 500 AD) is when Muslims cannot find answers in the Quran, they turn to the Tanakh, the bible of the people they hate with a passion and want obliterated from the earth- the Jews.

          3. bobnstuff says:

            Before you take Bill Warner’s word for what Islam is or isn’t, look at his back ground. He has only been studying it for 15 years, he doesn’t have a back ground in religion and he gets it wrong more then he gets it right. This is where you are getting your information about Islam from. Would you go to a Jewish chemist to learn about Christian faith?

          4. girls_mom says:

            Please stop assuming that I have a personality that is easily swayed by others by making unsubstantiated statements such as, “This is where you are getting your information about Islam from.” Wrong! You have absolutely no idea where my information comes from, so let me enlighten you!
            I haven’t a clue who Bill Warner is and have never read anything he’s written or stated. I’m college educated Bob, and have a Masters degree ( and I would never write that or provide any personal information about myself as I just enjoy a occasional trip to conservative websites, to be part of a nice group of people who have great ideas and read what they think and learn about other people’s viewpoints)
            And, I’m sure many of the folks out here have better qualifications than I. You pushed me too far this time, and I apologize to anyone out here that thinks some how I am tooting some sort of horn. I’m not!!!! But, I’ll be damned if I will allow someone to assume facts and express them about me, when they are so far from the truth, that it is starting to really irk me!!!
            One of my college minors was “Religious History.” Let me be clear…. there was no nuances of religion overtones or undercurrent imported into the teachings from the professors I had that were magnificent in their historical knowledge and didactic.
            They didn’t spare any religion from a historical point- you got it straight and unadulterated, sans bias. Hence; my understanding of the historical aspects of religious paradigms.
            You, on the other, dismiss everything that doesn’t mesh with your thinking. YOU can’t accuse people of being mislead, reading the wrong information and therefore; you, will tell them what is real instead of what they perceive or know to be factual from myriads of sources.
            Get a grip Bob, before other people start lambasting you in the same fashion. We conservatives have been damn tolerate in getting verbally slapped around by one who hasn’t the room in his reality for our reality.
            Have a great day!!!

        2. girls_mom says:

          They aren’t even nice as minorities! These war-mongering groups, ISIS Hamas, er al are the equivalent of the Islamic religion’s armies.

          1. bobnstuff says:

            ISIS has killed more Muslims then any other faith. There are more Muslims fight against ISIS then any other faith.

          2. girls_mom says:

            Bob, this is the problem with trying to help in Iraq and Afghanistan. You can’t help people whose view of life has not changed since the 7th century.They are Barbarians, have been and always will be.
            The Sunnis hate the Shiites and the Kurds and they in turn hate each other back. They think, live and act as if the lived in tents with camels and are traversing the desert.

          3. Fred says:

            The problem is the “muslims” ?are to scared to fight back or to peaceful (political correctness) This was exactly my point above. They even kill each other !

          4. billwhit1357 says:

            Your just beating your head against a wall trying to talk and sense into bob, he would get on his knees and give a Muslim a bj if they told him too! Libs are Loons, as can easily be seen by the idiocy he writes! He is also a Troll, always taking his crap on Conservative sites.

          5. bobnstuff says:

            Tell me what conservative Christians believe in. Look at the list and then tell me what Muslims believe in. Christians have never had a problem kill non Christians. Look at history. We have had no problem killing Muslims.

          6. billwhit1357 says:

            I can see where there would be no problem at all making maggot food out of you, TROLL! Like I said before, go peddle your Leftist Muslim Loving Vomit elsewhere! Trolls are truly sickening scum, and no, I do not care to hear again about all the education you claim to have! And when are you going to realize, no one gives a rats ass about what you say or think? Just like no one cares what I say or think either! At least I am intelligent enough to realize that, whereas, you head is buried too deep in your own ass to see it! No one cares if you die, no one cares what you say, you just a pimple on satan’s ass.

          7. girls_mom says:

            You’re right Bill. He wrote me a synopsis of who he is, and if not a fabrication, I can’t understand how his thinking has made a 360-degree turn to the left. It’s sad that he embraces such a philosophy of destruction. Oh, well…. thanks, Bill 🙂

          8. billwhit1357 says:

            Oh, did he give you the whole how educated and how many degrees he has BS? Lol, he did the same to me. For someone who “supposedly” had an education, he seems completely blind to actual facts and truth, but, of course, most of these Leftist Trolls are. And he will troll you on other sites too, and quote back to you what you posted on other posts. Even if he does have an education, as he tries to claim, that does not give a person Common Sense and some of the most educated people in the world are complete idiots, just look at all the Leftist “Professors” who talk trash! Titles and degrees are nothing but printed toilet paper! Only Professors due respect are those in the medical field, like my doctor and surgeon who performed my liver transplant. God Bless you and yours, my friend!

          9. girls_mom says:

            I totally agree with you. I didn’t get that harangue from him. I got a complete rundown on his career, his earnings, taxes he’s paid from his many businesses, and now……God help us, he stated he’s a minister ( I got the sense I conversing with an Elmer Gantry). LOL Search around, its still out there under the Trump article, I think. It was a bit distressing to read all that he wrote and try to understand how that information fit into his view of the world. It just doesn’t mesh(?).
            The Progressive Liberals have been trying to take over this country for over 40-years. It has been an underground movement and God help us….. we got the worst of them now, the leader who was waiting in the wings for the right moment (with is Pro-Muslim backer- George Soros) who has pulled this all together -the Manchurian President, Barry Soetoro -Indonesian citizen.
            Progressives are in the minority in this country; however, they surreptitiously took over the “heartbeat,” of the USA: Unions, the Judicial system, the Legislature, the media, Hollywood- a sick dream world that a society of idiots vicariously live through and believe the feckless Left-wing actors/directors et al’s every word. Hollywood at its best, use to be run by Conservative studios and lastly, Education (this is the root of indoctrination) – which is a mirror of what Hitler’s SS Child movement was in the 40’s. Obama and his minions, luckily have been unable to seize the absolute power as Hitler did, to remove the children from their homes and lodge them in school campus’ to brainwash them completely. If we get another socialist/ Marxist in the White House the assault on transforming this country will continue.
            The Communists/Marxists/Socialists that are teachers and professors have a ‘lock’ on the youth of America’s minds… and… they can’t be fired. We are witnessing a society of people from adolescence to their mid-life that are void of patriotism, and American History in it’s true form – they believe in all instances everywhere America has gone in to help, we are and always have been, “the bad guys.”
            It’s really frightening how ignorant and apathetic a segment of our society is- especially the millenniums.
            We use to be Number 1 in the world in education, now, thanks to incompetent, Progressive Left-wing teachers/professors, we are 46th.Teacher’s are the only people who have a job for life without parents having the power to petition and have them removed.
            There has to be a way once a conservative President gets into office to dis-empower the unions- especially the Teacher’s Union. Most unions usefulness are archaic and just another form of power and control over the country and in some cases, the Union members.
            We’re going win this country back and clean house from top to bottom, and give America’s ‘Heartbeat” a transfusion of ‘Old Glory.”
            And now that I have been told you have a new lease on life…. God Bless you and yours also, and much more – Keep you healthy for a long and happy life, my friend! 🙂

    2. heights2012 says:

      Only a died in the wool LIB could possibly link Conservatives to the Muslim movement accelerating today—-You might be better off linking Conservatives to American Patriotism rather Than mohammad loyalists.
      Ignorance and agenda is a truly poor excuse to attack American Conservatism, but its the only tool you have in your tool box

      1. bobnstuff says:

        Think about what they stand for, Family values, anti gay, God and country being one and the same. They don’t believe in drinking. Women are to respect their husbands. Like it or not they are conservatives. Doesn’t God and family come first. Think about all the things the conservatives want to change in our country, They want the Christion version of a Muslim state.

        1. Ameripat says:

          Seventy Virgins come first…also death to Infidels. Not sure how that would be considered conservative…maybe Hollywood Progressive though.

        2. Jack Hollis says:

          I often wonder what compels a left wing miscreant like yourself to go to a conservative web page and post the kind of diatribe you post here. I tell you I have never and will never go to some left wing rag and try to make a fool of myself like you do. I’ll bet the farm that a psychiatrist would have a field day getting you on his couch so he can probe your inner being.

          1. bobnstuff says:

            Most times I find a lot of ranting and party line crap here. However every now and then I find someone who can actually think for themselves and enter into intelligent discourse. If you only want to hear the same old anti everything slap on the back junk that’s fine but every now and then a different take can make you think. I don’t want to hear my view repeated over and over again. I gain nothing by only hearing one side. In defending my view I gain because I have to truly look at it and see where it is based. If you tell me some fact and I don’t believe it I must check it out to say why it is or isn’t true. So you see I’m here to learn an grow. I do find it funny that there are people here that get really upset if someone says something different from what they believe. It’s also interesting that people will quote Rush and Glenn almost word for word but claim they never listen to them. Look at todays postings. Everyone is all bent out of shape because a town elected Muslims to their government, The voters have spoken. Isn’t that what our country is suppose to be about. Freedom to choose the people to run their government as the voters see fit. Last time I checked this is still a democracy and the guy who gets the most votes is suppose to win.

        3. Fred says:

          They don’t drink, so how do they get crazy enough to run around cutting off people’s heads and even go as far as blowing themselves up to kill the infidel( that is us)plus raping, killing their own women and any one who doesn’t follow their beliefs. They must be taking something to make them that way ! I don’t know any conservatives that practice this way !

    3. billwhit1357 says:

      And that is a Fact, Jack, or bob!

    4. girls_mom says:

      Hey Bob,
      Check out the ones Obama had dumped in Idaho ( another one of his sneaky maneuvers, hidden by the media ) . Its seem ObaMao thought Idaho was too white….he’ll fix that. He gave the Idahoans a gift…. a load of losers on welfare, benefits and another hit on the taxpayers.
      Bob, I’m so disappointed in you…. a minister. You make my heart feel sad:(

      1. bobnstuff says:

        If you care to know anything about Muslim Americans here is a link. I’m afraid that it doesn’t agree with the view most people have of Muslim Americans but it’s a valid picture of who they are.

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