Trump’s campaign says he’ll negotiate directly with TV networks on debates

November 3, 2015

Donald Trump and his advisers have decided to work directly with television executives and take a lead role in negotiating the format and content of primary debates, which have become highly watched and crucial events in the 2016 race, according to Republicans familiar with their plans.

Trump will reject a joint letter to television network hosts regarding upcoming primary debates drafted Sunday at a private gathering of operatives from at least 11 presidential campaigns, the Republicans said.

The move by Trump, coming just hours after a group of Republican strategists huddled in the Washington suburbs to craft a list of possible demands, thwarts an effort by the campaigns and the letter’s drafter, longtime GOP attorney Ben Ginsberg, to find consensus and work collectively to negotiate terms.

163 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • California70 says:

    Good for Trump he will do his own negotiating. Notice, The GOP wants to “Collectively” negotiate terms.
    Trump is an American and an INDIVIDUAL! Just like all Americans.
    Evidently, the rest of the Republicans don’t have what it takes to negotiate a good deal!

    Anyone old enough out here to remember collective is a “COMMUNIST” word?

    Everything they did was done for the COLLECTIVE. That’s because the collective couldn’t own their own business and not even their own piece of property!

    Everything was for the Collective. No Individualism, None, Nada. Week, that’s just plain Communism. Pure, plain and simple!

    1. girls_mom says:

      Yes indeed! When I heard the word “collectively,” negotiate terms; Communism was the first thing that came to mind. It’s the perfect agenda for the Republicans…. a collective initiative … they’re right on track with their same tricks to formulate and ultimately try to gain control once again on all things pertaining to the new league of “Outsider,”candidates sans Rubio, Kasich and Bush and Christy, to a point – those are still insiders.

  • VM Sheppard says:

    Did you see the news feed where Obama laughed and made jokes about this network issue? He insinuates that the Republican Party candidates are fools that can’t handle China and Russia because they can’t even handle a simple debate… yet he accuses the Republicans of being partisan.

    If he was 1/2 the man the Democrats claim he is, and if he was 1/2 as nonpartisan as he claims to be, he wouldn’t be so condescending toward people who disagree with the way he’s doing business.

    These candidates have the right to expect a fair debate, denying them that is a(nother) scar on the face of the Democrats and the liberals who support them.

    1. girls_mom says:

      When was the last time you remember, the great, prompter Orator do an off-the-cuff interview on any FOX network, live? ……You can’t recall it, either??

      Incidentally, Mark Levin just threw down the gauntlet to Obama and Hiltery Rotten Clinton: He invited each of them do to a live radio interview with him. If each have the intestinal fortitude to accept and be interviewed, Mark will donate $100,000 each to the charity of their choice. Think he’ll get any takers? Softballs will not be served! LOL

  • girls_mom says:

    Hey gang. Did everyone vote?….. I’m out of here. Have to get to the voting polls.

    1. VM Sheppard says:

      I did… 7 questions… it was a breeze!

      1. girls_mom says:


  • I Seigel says:

    You really have to acknowledge Donald’s genius here. He didn’t get to be a billionaire by being stupid or spending lots of his own money. In this case, he’s negotiating (demanding) that the network GIVE him FREE time for what is, essentially, an unpaid 2 hour political advertisement. And he’s bragged that so far he hasn’t spent any of his own money on advertising!! BRILLIANT!!!

  • a flag waving AMERICAN mike says:

    Good for Trump.I have a two part question 1 how fast can you bring our Military back up to what it should be.2. are we going to save the USA. after Obama

    1. bobnstuff says:

      So you support the budget deal with it’s increase in military spending. Just how big does the military need to be? If he couldn’t save Atlantic City how is he going to save America?

      1. pete G says:

        If we can give an enemy 150 billion dollars (Iran) we can afford to spend what ever it takes to keep us safe. Without a strong military there is no US, got it? Obama has cut the hell out of our military, on purpose and we need the strength we once had.

        1. bobnstuff says:

          We aren’t giving them one cent, we are letting them have their own money back. It’s not our money. They are only getting about $40 billion of it because they have to pay all the money they owe other countries. I’m sorry you think our military isn’t strong and that the President haves the power to cut funding. It was the Congress that cut the funds and in fact they didn’t really cut them that much. The cuts came out of the Pentagon not the White House. We don’t fight wars the way we did even ten years ago. We don’t need grunts like we once did. You do know that we still have the strongest military in the world.

      2. pete G says:

        That doesn’t deserve a response Bob, it wasn’t his job to save Atlantic City for hell sake. You should envision what it would be like to have a President who would fire people for steeling taxpayer’s money instead of playing along and doing a little steeling of their own. Being very rich gives you allot of power.

        1. bobnstuff says:

          He was the developer, it was his vision. He was trusted with a bunch of money to make it work. He failed and lost a number of other peoples money as well as public funds. The question is just how do you blow a project that plays on peoples vises? Even Pittsburgh has casino’s that are making money. What I think happened was he had a bunch of yes men why didn’t tell him when he was wrong. His management style is that he is the boss and it’s his way or the highway and he doesn’t like to take others advice. In government it’s called being a dictator.
          You seem to give the president powers he doesn’t have as far as hiring and firing people. Most of them money that is lost by government goes through congress. It’s congress that hires the contractors and pays them, not the White House, remember the power of the purse is with congress. The president can’t fire congress although I know that there are time he would like to.

          1. girls_mom says:

            You know bob…
            I think your declaring yourself as an ‘old time Republican’ in one of your postings was an attempt to try and fool us out here. You don’t walk the walk or talk the talk of any Republican I know; old, young or in between. These postings are fun and so are the attempts at phony declarations regarding political ideologies but, in the end, folks can’t keep from espousing their deeper, ingrained feelings and they slip out when they constantly stand up/with or for progressive positions. Fess up’-we’ll still love you and respect your opinions; however, it won’t change who we are and what we stand for and conversion to your thinking processes is definitely out! :))

          2. bobnstuff says:

            Here is some of my back ground that might make you understand my views. I’m a business man, retired. I have started and owned four business’s of my own and worked on dozens of other start-ups. I have written checks to the government totaling well over a million dollars in my life time. I want government to work, I want my roads paved and in good repair and my police to do a good job. I have no problem with the government spending a little money helping people who have problems, it’s the right thing to do. I hate government waste and want the most out of my tax dollar. The republicans at one time was the good business party. They were the practical party. LBJ passed all those welfare bills but Nixon made them work. When there was a problem the republicans handled it well. This is the party I joined and work for. This is still my local party.
            Now I’m an ordained minister and have been blessed by God. I have found that by living a life of faith and by following the teachings of Christ I become a very good salesman. I listen to peoples needs and serve them, it’s good business, I help anyone who comes to me, I don’t care who they are, they all get my best. I don’t judge them, it’s not my job. I try to show Christ’s love to all.
            Next add in a little OCD and I can’t let misinformation go, I feel a need to get the truth and find the facts. I joke at work that I only don’t know the answer to a question once. The computer and internet is both a blessing and a curse for me. I look things up. I read a wide range of areas and try not to take anyone one persons word for things. When I say something on line I try to have sources to back it up, You might notice I give links.
            There are a lot of people that are clueless and believe the party line, I try not to be one of them. I read back ground on people, Take our good friend Rush, I work at the radio station he got his start at WIXZ. he had moved on to the big time about ten years before I got there. I bought advertising on the station he went to second. KQV. I didn’t like him as a rock n roll DJ. He found a place that he is good at. He is one of the kings of misinformation. He has no education past high school and will say anything if it will keep you listening.
            Last I love my country and will fight those people who want to sell it out for profit. Why would a private company do the job better the our government can? They can’t if we have a good government. I know my history and believe that our country can be good for all people if we can keep the blood sucker away from it.

      3. girls_mom says:

        It needs to be large enough and strong enough to have your enemies fearful enough not to engage you in combat. Thanks to your “chosen one” in the White House our military has been reduced to the size it was prior to WWI. He has converted our military into a toothless tiger and we are feared by no one- especially Putin who realizes the suit Obama wears is empty.

    2. I Seigel says:

      The answers to your questions are:
      1. He’ll have it done by his second day in office.
      2. Yes, but only Trump can do it.

      He’ll also deport all 11 million illegal immigrants within his first 100 days in office, build the 1000 mile wall between the US and Mexico within 6 months, get us back on the Gold Standard and shrink the tax code to 3 pages by the end of his first year in office.

      And he’ll promote gender equality by filling his cabinet with Miss America winners (broadcast live from Trump Casino in beautiful, thriving Atlantic City), because we want “10’s” running the government.

      Of course, this is after he declares himself Emperor and has the Trump Casino security squad stage a coup of the Pentagon.

      Now where did I put my ruby slippers………???

      1. Wolfman says:

        I almost fell for your first two answers and thought…OMG Sigs has lost his mind . Thank God I kept reading and realized you were just setting the stage for the ensuing diatribe…I admit Trump does underestimate the time things will take to fully implement/execute. It’s easy to say get this done and do it now…it is entirely another for the doer to actually configure the logistics of the doing.
        However, Trump did not get where he is by just being a mouth that roars. He knows what he is getting into but really is lousy at articulating his game plan. I’m still not convinced what his actual positions are in a lot of areas. I know his stance on immigration…but little else is ever expounded on in any depth/detail. Ben Carson is a much more articulate individual. I agree with Mrs.O about his character.

        1. I Seigel says:

          As to Trump being more than a “mouth that roars” – he is the head of his company and can hire and fire whom he wants. He can’t do that with Congress or the military. He hasn’t proven he can work WITH people not of his choosing. He hasn’t proven that he can deal with other people’s egos perhaps as big as his. He hasn’t proven that he has any powers of persuasion, which is essential in politics.
          As for Carson, he hasn’t proven much of anything either. He has half-baked ideas on taxes, immigration, health care, and science in general.

          1. pete G says:

            He hasn’t proven that he has any powers of persuasion? Where the heck did he get 10 billion dollars, are you kidding.

          2. I Seigel says:

            Persuasion isn’t the same as buying, bullying or ordering. What powers of persuasion does a hedge fund manager have? When you have the power to say “you’re fired” to anyone, there’s no real need to persuade them. You’re kidding if you don’t see the difference.

          3. girls_mom says:

            Such trivia. Who cares? Once you hit billions… game, set, match!

          4. bobnstuff says:

            He is lying to you and you don’t care? This is the guy you want leading the country? Please look at what he says and check out the few facts he give. He will lie when the truth would be just as good.

          5. girls_mom says:

            Bob, I do my research
            I knew what Obama was when he was running for office. But, the lemmings who prefer to swim up stream with ear plugs and commit suicide by vote, would not listen when people tried posting the truth and giving them links to information.

            Some old time Republican you are. Boo. Hiss. He’s not lying to anyone. He tells it like it is and always has. Read his new book: Crippled America.
            You want talk about liars: Rubio… he has voted twice for Immigration Reform and Amnesty. Now that he is running for President he is back-peddling.The Amnesty and the Illegal Immigration problem would never have surfaced in this election, if not for Donald Trump and it is a major concern for America.
            I wouldn’t trust Rubio as far as I could throw him. If he got in office, he would revert back to his old Amnesty diatribe.

          6. bobnstuff says:

            I worked for a Bain Capital Company, I would have voted for anyone but Romney. He destroyed the company and walked away with a bunch of money by doing it. I would have been happy to vote for McCain until they put Sarah a heart beat away from the presidency. Obama won because the Republican blow it. As far as Trump telling the truth, go fact check just about anything he says. Of all the people running this year he has the most lies. I don’t suppose your read the immigration reform bill. I did and it’s not a bad bill. It takes care of most of the problem will immigration. We need reform now. go look at what laws we have on the books and tell me they can be enforced.
            Look at what we have to enforce them with

          7. girls_mom says:

            We don’t need reform. We need the laws that have worked well for this country for decades followed to the letter. Quotas per year from each country has worked and gave a balance to the ethnicity of this country. You needed a sponsor, a promise of employment and you could not come in this country with a disease.
            If Typhoid Mary came here today, Obama would say,”Come on in, maybe with a little luck you can kill off a whole bunch of Americans to make room, so more Muslims can fill up the USA.” Unfortunately for him, welcoming Ebola didn’t wipe enough of us out.
            We have at least 30-40 million people in this country that are here illegally. Everyone cannot live in this country.That is just a realistic fact. We will be back to back and belly to belly. That is why immigration ceased totally from the late 1920’s to the 1960s. The intelligent true American representatives in government at that time, decided we needed to assimilate the number of immigrants that were already here before allowing more in. If we get a conservative President in this country and we might be able to stop the flow of 100,000 H1Bvisa foreigners pouring in each month taking the white collar jobs of Americans who are more qualified then they.The only reason foreigners are usurping Americans for jobs in this country is they are cheaper. Corporate greed is a great contributor to the immigration problem we are experiencing today, coupled with the Open Borders that have created even more job loss and crime.
            We need to maintain Language, Culture and Borders if we want to remain a country. You can’t be a country without them.

          8. bobnstuff says:

            Please go do some home work, The immigration laws started to change in the 1960’s and then again in the 1980’s Reagan and Bush the First changed them to the mess we have today. The H1B visa is limited to 65,000 per year and is only good for a max of 10 years. That law was passed in 2000. You think that our laws are alright, do you. So If I get caught driving with out insurance it should be a worse crime then being here illegally. A $250 fine and 6 month in jail is the max someone should get for jumping the border and the government must prove that they jumped the border in court. You think $50,000 per person to deport them is fair for us taxpayers to pay to send them home and that we only need 8,500 border guards. You want to blame the president that has enforced the law the most for the problem even though he asked congress for help and was turned down. Go look at the law, I give you a link. Go look at the tools the president has to enforce the laws. The agency has a total of 20,000 employees and illegals is only part of what they do. Check your facts please.

          9. girls_mom says:

            You think I don’t do my homework or research? While you are consistently giving Obama a free pass on everything, you forgot about his pen and phone and how he has passed fiats and Executive orders (mostly illegally) while doing an end run around the Congress.

            If Boehner had not been his enabler and golf buddy, ObamaCare could have ‘monetarily been starved to death,” by the Congress. Congress has always been considered the House closest to the People- they hold the purse strings and under Boehner, did not withhold the money that could have bankrupted Obamacare. Do you think i’ts fair that Obama, under the Congressional majority of Democrats consensus, moved $555-billion dollars from SS and medicare to implement his “Legacy” blood sucking this country dry? I don’t.

            Further, let’s get the Immigration comments on track. b/tw thanks for the links – I have a few for you 🙂

            To stop, what was considered at that time, an overburden of Immigrants during the 1920’s “The Emergency Quota Act”, also known as “The Emergency Immigration Act of 1921” the “Immigration Restriction Act of 1921,” the Per Centum Law, and the” Johnson Quota Act” (ch. 8, 42 Stat. 5 of May 19, 1921) restricted immigration into the United States. Johnson’s other bill “The Immigration Act of 1924,” was a United States Federal Law, that limited the annual number of immigrants who could be admitted from any country to 2% of the number of people from that country, who were already living in the United States in 1890, down from the 3% cap set by the Immigration Restriction Act of 1921, according to the Census of 1890. This Act superseded the 1921″Emergency Quota Act.” and the laws of this act heavily restricted immigration into this country.

            We had the Great Depression that began in 1929. Do you think we should have let more immigrants into the country when Americans were on “bread lines?” And yes, as I previously pointed out the “Quota” system was past-tense,and abolished in 1965.

            Let’ hear a round of applause for good ‘ol LBJ for that, and another cheer for implementing a tax on the pittance known as Social Security (which Americans paid for via the deductions taken from their salaries throughout their hard working careers). Oh, and lest we forget… a New York salute to Al (Global warming) Gore who cast the deciding vote to tax SS under Johnson’s watch.(as an aside – I know you will point out, as with your ongoing defense of Obama, the President can’t make the laws). Yes, its the Congress on behest of the president that shapes, contrives gets the bill on its way- to end up at the Presidents’ desk where he waits with pen in hand, when its what he wants he passes the bill. That worked somewhat, until Obama -he is a country, a government, a dictator and the rule of law unto himself. Obama’s imprint is on everything that either goes through or dies on the floor or is implemented by Executive Order. Be assured of that!

            Are you aware that a cost of living raise (which doesn’t always occur) for SS recipients has hit a high of 3%? Unlike welfare recipients (who pay nothing into the system) who last year received a 30% increase in that true “entitlement.” How did that happen?
            I don’t consider SS an entitlement. People paid into it, and the money which was in a trust and would have been a self- sustaining, “in and out” paradigm by the perpetuation of monies accruing from workers, then paid out retirees ad infinitum, was violated by moving those monies into the General Fund – lift your glass once again, to Lyndon Baines Johnson, the thief that robbed the SS trust to ensure that there would be money in the General Fund for the corrupt cartel in DC to fund Pork Laden” bills in an attempt to wow their constituency with cash brought into their states.

            What a wonderful way to stack the deck for re-election!

            Your question: “You think $50,000 per person to deport them is fair for us taxpayers to pay to send them home and that we only need 8,500 border guards.” We need more than 8,500 border guard until a wall in built to stop this systemic infection.

            First of all agents of ICE have brought a lawsuit against the Obama administration due to Obama’s new non-deportation policy and a previous memo directing them not to arrest certain illegal immigrants.drastic measures to loosen the nation’s immigration laws. In addition to another one of his end runs around Congress an “executive order” protects younger illegal aliens from deportation, the Obama administration shut down numerous Border patrol stations that ended a necessary ICE program that prescribed the local law enforcement agencies to enforce local federal immigration law and actually instructed Border Patrol agents not to make arrests. So much for your letting Obama off the hook again by blaming the Congress.


            Now, let’s take a look at the $50,000 deportation cost per illegal that the taxpayer would be burdened with. That my friend, is ‘chump change’ to the burden we are saddled with per year by this invasion of criminals… yes…. criminals, that have broken our laws, assaulted our borders and are getting rewarded for it.

            Illegal immigration costs U.S. taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state and local level. The bulk of the costs — some $84 billion — are absorbed by state and local governments.

            We the People are paying this at all levels!!!

            The annual outlay that illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers is an average amount per native-headed household of $1,117 (do the math on 30-40 million illegals). The fiscal impact per household varies considerably because the greatest share of the burden falls on state and local taxpayers, whose burden depends on the size of the illegal alien population in that locality.
            here’s much more that identifies what is it costing us in Key bullets on that site.

            I quote from “Fairus ” on the fiscal burden we are enduring:
            [“The report examines the likely consequences if an amnesty for the illegal alien population were adopted similar to the one adopted in 1986. The report notes that while tax collections from the illegal alien population would likely increase only marginally, the new legal status would make them eligible for receiving Social Security retirement benefits that would further jeopardize the future of the already shaky system. An amnesty would also result in this large population of illegal aliens becoming eligible for numerous social assistance programs available for low-income populations for which they are not now eligible. The overall result would, therefore, be an accentuation of the already enormous fiscal burden.]

            Also try going out to the Heritage House website. They have statistical information, also.

            Sorry Bob, you might profess to be a registered Republican, but your ideologies expressed here, are on the other end of the bell curve of what the Republican party’s platform was, when you could differentiate them from the socialist Democrats.
            I have not read any expression by statement from you, that is pro-getting America free from its chains and assault by third world people bringing with them a resolute opinion to change the USA into a mirror image of their country instead of respecting the foundation, laws and system that has defined this country through its citizen’s, that had flourished for decades.
            I am a registered Republican, but the Republican Party’s unconscionable doctrine contributing to the downfall of this country, does not resonate with me and I will not contribute to it despite the email, telephone calls and the snail mail letters asking for my opinion and suggestions ( and don’t forget an inclusive donation)which they ignored for years. I am first and foremost, a Constitutional conservative. 🙂

            As I tried to point out to you previously; everyone in the world cannot live in this country. The infrastructure, water accessibility; free space and lands, the general ecological footprints, including flora and fauna are already seeing effects of negative change. Large scale natural and human crisis that affect
            momentous population centers are a vital consideration from the standpoint of national security, resilient arrangement of cities, and the overall security and well being of society that will be compromised to the nth degree, leaving this country in a state of depredation.
            Too many people, not enough country.PERIOD.

          10. bobnstuff says:

            You are a fool who will believe anything you are told. You still haven’t check to see what the immigration laws are. You can keep listening to your lies and believe them, I’m done trying to show you facts. You are hopeless. Good luck and keep your tin foil hat on.

          11. girls_mom says:

            I’m sorry you choose to project your frustration and the inability to sell me your bill of goods “under the guise of I believe anything I’m told.” If that were the case, I could embrace your viewpoints, without question.
            End, with the “Did you read the Immigration Bill?” I remember reading the H1BVisa bill that was passed. What it turned into was a far cry from what the bill enacted. I have been informed of what the so-call Immigration bill comprises on my Congressman’s website. Once these corrupt politicians get a foot hold on Immigration Reform it will become a free pass for amnesty.
            I provided you with factual information in rebuttal on your perception that $50,000 per illegal for deportation would be a heavy tax burden on Americans. The burden of that cost would be a one-time cost, especially if we enforce our laws and build a wall between the USA and Mexico. We have just paid out nearly 15-million dollars for warehouses in Afghanistan that were completed after we left and sitting empty with no valuable use. A useless taxpayers burden.
            You chose to ignore the the enormous tax burden statistics that are yearly- $113 billion-as opposed to your negative analysis of the cost of a one-time accrual of possibly trillions for 30-40 million illegals to be deported from this country vs the yearly cost of billions.
            How many trillions do you estimate we have spent in the last 20 years supporting these people with our tax dollars and all of the programs providing them with free benefits. The Federal government just spent $160-million on body scanners that don’t work and you press on how its best to keep them here under Immigration reform. If I’m a fool, I’m in excellent company with millions of other Americans and the, albeit, not enough, but always fighting conservative Congressmen and Senators who want their country and its autonomy back and its rules enforced, also.
            The ‘Tin Hat’ reference is a Freudian slip, my faux Republican poster – it is the most notable of the references used by the frustration a Progressive feels when he can’t win a point.
            I’m also done, plying YOU with facts you wave off, but my last bit of advice to you is to keep the pitcher of Kool-Aid close by, in case you seem to come out of the Progressive indoctrination dream-world you live in and the threat of reality becomes too stark. Poor yourself a glass, and retreat once again to that mental ‘Guiana’ state of gullibility and denial that believe will right all that is wrong with this country. Have a wonderful day!;)

          12. girls_mom says:

            I replied to you; however, I saw a misspelling and when I was in edit mode a glitch occurred on the browser. My reply is no longer there. I don’t have time to recreate it as I have to go out. When I find time I will answer you, one last time. have a nice day.

          13. girls_mom says:

            Welp, Bob
            For some strange reason the original posting that I rebutted your comments where the the words ‘tin hat’ and ‘fool’ were injected for some sort of catharsis you might have needed to soothe your ruffled feathers has mysteriously appeared. Saves me the time to recreate it.
            Enjoy your evening.:)

          14. bobnstuff says:

            You do the same. Thanks for the ride. Till next time.

          15. girls_mom says:


          16. I Seigel says:

            I hope you haven’t bought into the myth that Obama has issued a record-breaking number of Executive Orders. If you’ll do some simple research – Google “Obama Executive Orders – you’ll see that, as of now, Obama has issued far less than his predecessors.

          17. girls_mom says:

            Myth? Where did you get that misinformation?

            Obama has issued to date, 33 Executive Orders in that pure form.
            However, always the Devil’s Advocate and trickster, ObaMao has issued ‘Executive Orders’ by another name: a form of executive action known as the ‘Presidential Memorandum,’ more often than any other president in history – using it to take unilateral action even as he has signed fewer executive orders.
            By issuing his directives as “memoranda” rather than
            executive orders, Obama has downplayed the extent of his executive actions.
            As with executive orders, presidential memoranda don’t require
            action by Congress. They have the same force of law as executive orders and often have consequences just as far-reaching. Some of the most significant actions of [his] presidency have arrived, not as executive order but, by presidential memoranda.
            For instance, Obama has used presidential memoranda to make policy on gun control; immigration and labor regulations.





            Renaming executive orders does not hide [his] abuse of power.
            Watch out for the myths that you ply on people that actually do reseach.

          18. YoOleMe says:

            … When you’re not so impeded by brevity, I’d really like to hear your deepest feelings about things ;>) – HOPEFULLY those “girls” took A MAGNUM ISSUE of their innate substance from that “mom”!!!!!

          19. YoOleMe says:

            … TRY looking at WHAT HE’S DONE, and CHECK OUT THE EVIDENTIARY FACT[S] EXTANT in his 30-year career, vis-a-vis the MONUMENTAL NEEDS such prowess in international venue[s] & jurisdiction[s] can serve in his capacity as President of the ISLAMIST SABOTAGED United States of America, RECOVERY!!!

          20. bobnstuff says:

            Daddy gave him a bunch of money that he has come close to loosing more then once. He would be richer had he just put the money in an investment fund. His return on inverstment isn’t what others has been over the same time period. The only thing that save him is the fact that he is a good salesman and can talk banks into giving him money. His track record with international investment is hit and miss at best. Add in the fact that he is a cry baby and spends to much time in court. The first thing I did was go back and listen to the interviews from his past. He tells you that he is a great business man but the facts don’t line up.

          21. YoOleMe says:

            You claim “Businessman” for your I.D.: just for grins, I’m curious as to your successful background qualifications, for bonefide in such scrutiny as offered here – with GREAT PARTICULARITY of INTEREST in ANY “Investment Fund” capable of running ONE-INVESTOR’S, $One-Million (or even $100-Million) “nut”, into MORE THAN the $10-BILLION, over the 30-year period he touts? … This is the very first-time I’ve been aware a 10,000% INCREASE “Investment Fund” opportunity was ever available!?!? … Albeit:

            The most salient “Fact” I find you citing here, i.e.: “he is a good salesman (perhaps even something from which you might gain in emulation?!?) and can talk banks into giving him money. His track record with
            international investment is hit and miss at best.“ is a very large part of my attraction to his candidacy, notwithstanding his DOMESTIC & INTERNATIONAL
            PERSONAL PROPERTY INTEREST to be PROTECTED (or in error, SCUTTLED!!!) WITHIN EVERY Presidential action he would be taking in that office!!!!

            Perhaps, if you pay closer attention in terms of my suggestion, made in my posting to which your retort is being answered here; you could see the merits of a $10-Billion Net Worth, 30-year experienced CEO SUCCESS FACTOR, Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, Inc. (and if you doubt the “Inc.”, I’ll refer you to the constitutionally repugnant, yet REAL: “Act of 1871”) vs. EVERYTHING ELSE TRYING TO GET THAT “TITLE”, BUT VOID OF SUCH COMBINED CREDENTIALS’; then your angst may subside somewhat, and the nature of your day’s pleasures increase.

          22. bobnstuff says:



            Have your read any bio of Trump not written by Trump? Everone says pretty much the same as this one. Forbes is who Mr. Trump said gave him is Net worth but They only say $4.5 Billion not the $10 billion he claims Here is how other people did in the same time as Trump built his wealth.
            You will note that the S&P 500 out performed Mr. Trump.

            As far as my business back ground. I have started and owned four business and been involved in a number of other start up over the years. My first venture grow to be in the top 10% of it’s industry and I was quoted on the front page of the WSJ in 1985 and was a speaker at the largest trade show in the industry. I sold it in 1986. Since then I have played around with other business. I was partner in an engineering firm and still hold a patent, I’ve owned an advertising agency and a Restaurant. I have taught Business on a College level. I have had fun and done well in everything I have tried. I have never been in a lawsuit or been in bankruptcy.

          23. YoOleMe says:

            GIVEN veracity of the above: You have my sincerest
            congratulations – even without name, nor fame for my vetting of your claims (i.e. sites similar to the two published for Trump – the Famous People one, though limited to 2013 data, being one of the better promo’s of which I’m aware for his GET THE U.S. OUT THE OBAMA S_IT-HOLE qualified candidacy)!? … All else aside:

            If the Donald has ONE feather in his hat that exceeds all others, it is his Wharton School success – that same source from which another “Failure” emerged, only to create an entire world-class industry: Fred Smith, whose final dissertation received an “F” – a.k.a. the business plan for a thing known as, FedEx!!!

          24. bobnstuff says:

            Next Bio
            Would you like more, they all say about the same thing. He is a gambler, he wins some he loose some. He spends way to much time in court. He could have made more money just by buying the stocks on the S&P 500. As far as his education, I’m not all that impressed, I know many well educated people who I wouldn’t want as president. Maybe I just run with a better educated circle then you. So I guess your stocks haven’t done as well as mine under Obama, I kind like how my money has grown. Almost no inflation means it is real growth unlike Reagan when you had to make at least 4% just to stay even.. You can have The Donald’s hype and lies. He is a great showman but not some one that should ever be put in the highest office in the land.

          25. YoOleMe says:

            If I may: On the one hand, we’re in fundamental agreement on Carson – who I clearly want for a Trump, V.P., with his suave articulation and properly coupled metaphoric punctuation he uses to alleviate grossly exaggerated racial issues, while establishing his presidential political character for 2020, when I feel certain the Donald would step-down, as by then he would have accomplished at least the bulk of his innate objectives sought at this point – bringing me to the other hand:

            While I find that somehow myopically, you severely under-rate Trump’s prowess in “powers of persuasion” – particularly where the amassing of a $20-Billion Net Worth can only be resultant of such talents applied within the severely exclusive financial strata necessary to accomplish such in business AND EVEN SOVEREIGN DEBT anymore, albeit; given he fails miserably, as in your expected proposal, there’s always “Plan B”:

            Just like the “Screw” that it is; the E.O. can be used to “UNSCREW” the SCREW-JOB he, or whomever else inherits that Oval Office, shall need to use – almost, just to get in the door (alas, we even hope such shall still be in place)!!!

          26. I Seigel says:

            Are you doing PR for the GOP? If not, I’d write a good recommendation for you. You manage to use a lot of fine-sounding words, but meaningful content? Eh, not so much.

          27. YoOleMe says:

            … sounds like the general attitude towards our Constitution today!!! … Perhaps some pre-1970’s Dictionary reading will go a long way towards getting us off this Juggernaut to Hell our abject ignorance of the Law has “strapped us onto” — it could certainly keep a lot of us OUT OF JAILS & REVENUE RIP-OFF TRAFFIC COURTS!!!

            P.S. In light of your actual cognizance of my writings; I’ll take a PASS on that “recommendation”!!!

        2. YoOleMe says:

          IN RE: “I’m still not convinced what his actual positions are in a lot of areas. I know his stance on immigration … but little else is ever expounded on in any depth/detail..”

          Just MAYBE!!!! THAT’S THE BEST REASON YOU HAVE to VOTE FOR him!!! … Or would you rather our ENEMIES SHOULD BE “,,, convinced what his actual positions are in a lot of areas. [AND] know his stance on immigration.[AND EVERYTHING] else … expounded on in any depth/detail..” …

          The man is running for an office of responsibility for the protection of this country from All enemies, foreign & domestic and YOU WANT TO KNOW HIS “GAME PLAN”, IN A WORLD-WIDE INFORMATION FORUM SO YOU CAN KNOW TO VOTE FOR HIM!?!?

          You sound like a true Obama fan: He wrote a book explaining how he would scuttle the U.S. in deference to Islam; you voted for him, and sure as HELL he HAS EFFECTED HIS PLAN!!!

          With ALL due respect; in light of your very questioning here, I’m compelled to WONDER IF you have any TRUE comprehension of what you actually know about his Immigration plan?!?

      2. a flag waving AMERICAN mike says:

        I Seigel

        Trump you may be good but I don’t think he can do it.11million illegal Immigrants in 100 days in more than like a year or 18months.He will put up a wall up between the US and Mexico.But I think it would be better to put Military and Border patrol officers every 75 or100 ft.with orders to shoot to kill might work faster to drive the point home

        1. I Seigel says:

          1000 miles of border. Soldiers every 100 feet. You do the math and tell me how many armies are needed.

          1. bobnstuff says:

            ICE has 20,000 employees to do the job. Why do you think on one has tried to do it up till now.

          2. I Seigel says:

            20,000 employees total? Or border guards? Or border guards assigns to the southern border?

          3. bobnstuff says:

            That is ICE total number of employees.

          4. YoOleMe says:

            BREAKTHROUGH!!! … We have this wonderful new vehicle called a helicopter, and peripheral search equipment that day, night, rain or shine, can probably tell you the color of your undies, from 150 ft above & beyond where you are, while it scoots around at ZERO ~ 250 knots (that’s’ 287mph & 3.5 hrs end to end on your1,000 mile fence) LOOKING FOR where you are!!! … Three or four of these little jewels and you’ll not be able to look hard enough for a hiding place.

          5. I Seigel says:

            Why hasn’t Congress authorized the funds?

          6. YoOleMe says:

            … who said they haven’t?

      3. California70 says:

        He has also said he will send the Muslim immigrants to the Middle East and have the Saudi’s help pay for it and give the land for it. All in favor……VOTE Trump!

      4. YoOleMe says:

        (I’d almost have to suspect you don’t perceive your lot as being within those “10’s”?!?)

  • billwhit1357 says:

    Good for Trump! Why should the Conservatives be questioned by the Leftist MSM but the Democrat Scum will not let Conservatives be their moderators? The MSM today is disgusting! TRUMP 2016!

    1. bobnstuff says:

      I didn’t know that Fox was leftist, Trump didn’t like them any better then MSNBC. Trump doesn’t like to be questioned.

      1. billwhit1357 says:

        Go peddle your crap elsewhere Hillary boy!

        1. bobnstuff says:

          Actual I’m a John Kasich supporter. I would like someone who know what he was doing.

          1. billwhit1357 says:

            Kasich is as bad as Jeb, and about the lowest man on the totem pole! Will never happen! TRUMP 2016! Good luck though!

          2. bobnstuff says:

            Trump will be lucky if he makes it to Super Tuesday. He is already starting to take back things he said. He can’t even keep his lies straight.

          3. billwhit1357 says:

            We shall see! Probably be rigged again to let one of the RINOS in, like your guy, Jeb, or Christie. If so, then Trump needs to tell the GOP to stick the oath, they made them sign, up their butts and run as an Independent. RINOS and Demons never keep their promises so Trump doesn’t need to lay down for these lying dogs of the GOP! The GOP are as bad as the Democratic Party of Perverts today, except for a handful, like Cruz, Cotton, Lee, Langford, and a few, very few others.

          4. bobnstuff says:

            Trump going to crash and burn all on his own. He is all flash and no substance. He will do for the country what he did for Atlantic City. My guy doesn’t stand a chance but I still support him, Kasich is the only republican in this thing who could get thing going but he isn’t telling the right lies to get elected.

          5. billwhit1357 says:

            Funny how all the Trump Haters are the same idiots who put a Queer Muslim Kenyan in the Oval Office! Now go back to your Rainbow Butt Boys, bobby!

          6. girls_mom says:

            Trump had nothing to do with Atlantic City’s failure. I have lived in New Jersey my entire life. My family came here from Northern Italy in 1875; For generations, most of us have remained. My dad was very involved with politics and I know my state well. This state has had more corrupt Democratic governors, mayors and representatives than you can imagine.
            Lucky us… We have two more Democrats; Menendez and Corey Booker as Senators. Menendez is a pro-amnesty do-for-illegals advocate and does nothing for his constituents. Booker was mayor of Newark and put that city in a state of devastation, so naturally the morons in this state voted him in as Senator. Now he can help devastate the entire state instead of just a city.
            This state had hit a low of Union corruption and debt until Christy replaced “Corzine the Corrupt”, one of the most virulent, dishonest, graft-ridden clowns that ever held the governor’s office; who was running neck and neck in ‘dishonesty” with the governor before him, Jim McGreevy.. who brought in his ‘boyfriend” from Israel, appointing him Homeland Security Chief of New Jersey and the guy wasn’t even a US citizen. The only one who didn’t know McGreevy (the ex-mayor of Woodbridge, NJ) was gay was his wife. Go figure?
            The “government” in this state is worse than the Mafia ever was! Atlantic City mayors have gone to jail for dirty dealings. They were going to clean up AC, try to contain the riff-raff by doing away with lowlife areas where casinos would rise and the windfall was going to provide money for the elderly, build AC back up again to its heights, etc. None of that happened. The crime abounded in AC.
            Enter… folks with money to spend where the casinos that are flourishing are ringed by crime-ridden neighborhoods and you have a recipe for failure.
            Donald Trump, used his business acumen and saw the hand-writing on the wall. He got out! Smart business move. He had nothing to do with AC and its failure. It was the government corruption from the top down that did it in.

          7. girls_mom says:

            I’m still trying to figure out how John McCain ever got the nomination in the Republican primary to run against ObaMao. Anyone that I conversed with after the primary stated they didn’t vote for McCain. I know I didn’t either. You definitely can’t trust anyone in either party when it comes to tallying votes from machines.
            I always laugh when I hear that the politico’s send US folks as monitors in third world country elections. We need monitors in this country at the voting polls, to keep the dead from voting and people voting in more than one state for the same election. ‘Ya think? LOL

          8. billwhit1357 says:

            You got that right, girl_mom! And Soros owns the company who have the voting machines also. I pray it never comes, but it looks like our nation needs another civil war to cleanse out the scum like Hussein Obama and all his ilk.

          9. girls_mom says:

            Bill, I think we already saw a rigging coming up in this next election. How the heck did Bush make the cut? His numbers on the Newsmax poll which fluctuates daily and comprises nation-wide voters, are in the basement? I can only assume that the corporate money is for Bush and the RINOs are putting pressure on FOX – with the exception of Lou Dobbs, Fox and Friends, Hannity and Stuart Varney.

          10. billwhit1357 says:

            I know, it is truly unbelievable that he still says he will make the grade when no one wants him. The good guys, like Trump and Cruz drive the GOP RINO traitors crazy, but it won’t be half as bad as what will happen if Jeb or Hillary get elected. I think We, the People, along with our Military are really getting fed up with being screwed over. I do think that if either of them win, that is the sign that Patriots need to take up arms and I thing the majority of the military will stand with us. I read an article today saying that they are at the end of their rope (military) and sick of what the current Coward in Chief is doing, using them for his own sick dirty deeds! I pray it doesn’t happen, this old diabled Vet does not want to see war again, but, if it does, then so be it. It will be their own fault, not ours! God Bless and keep the Faith!

          11. girls_mom says:

            Exactly! It’s always a pleasure to read you posts. 🙂

          12. billwhit1357 says:

            Thank you, my Lady! I am a sucker for the old ways of speech, lol!

          13. billwhit1357 says:

            And I bet your think Hussein rectum smells like roses, don’t you?

          14. girls_mom says:

            Hey bob…
            The problem with John Kasich is he is part of the establishment. If Bush doesn’t make it (here’s hoping…. sick to death of Bushes), the machine will throw their money and power behind Kasich.

      2. Phannesa says:

        Get out of here troll!!

        1. bobnstuff says:

          So you do think Fox is leftist.

          1. Wolfman says:

            actually Fox is Rhino and is not supportive of any of the non-establishment candidates.

          2. bobnstuff says:

            They liked Trump at first. The sure don’t support Bush which is the establishments man or was.

        2. girls_mom says:

          Geewhiz! You should know better than telling them to go away. That only makes them dig their heels in deeper. The reason they are here is “to add a little stupidity and their propagandized ramblings,” as a distraction. They obviously don’t care to post on the Left-wing websites as they would bore each other to death.:)

  • bobnstuff says:

    Why should the RNC get to run it’s parties debates, after all the are only elected by the party. Mr. Trump should be free to rig the debates in his favor. He should get to pick we asks the questions and what the questions are so he can have the answers ready. It’s after all It’s reality TV and everyone knows that they are scripted so why not the debates.

    1. used_to_be_a_liberal says:

      and what did Obama do, and how about the Hilda-Beast. They are just more sneaky, at least Trump is out in the open.
      A debate should be a debate on and about the issues, not on fluff and stuff.

      1. bobnstuff says:

        Trump only wants to talk about his trumped up issues. He doesn’t want to talk details because he doesn’t know them, he doesn’t wont to talk about what’s on his web page because he hasn’t bothered to look at it. Most of the tax and spending plans of this bunch show the can’t add or do basic math. Trump wants to be a dictator. This is how he runs his campaign, this is how he runs his business and this is how he would run the country. He will do for America what he did for Atlantic City.

        1. used_to_be_a_liberal says:

          Still better then Obama or the Hilda-Beast. We have had a dictator in the white house for some time now, a combination of a Marxist Socialist Nazi, Commie. So, at this point, I can most certainly put up with a conservative dictator, who will by executive degree, negate as much as possible of Obama’s bull manure.

          1. bobnstuff says:

            You just lost any credibility by saying Marxist Socialist Nazi. It shows you don’t know what you are talking about. You don’t know the meaning of the words you use. Plus you are clueless about what a dictator is but elect Trump and you will find out.

          2. used_to_be_a_liberal says:

            Listen-up progressive. You don’t know where your so-called progressive ideology originated. When you do, then maybe you may wake-up.
            Now tell me that you are in favour of this, no link, just today’s story.

            Attorney General Loretta Lynch recently made an announcement at the UN that the Obama administration will be inviting a “global police force” into several American cities in order to fight “violent extremism.”

            The program called the Strong Cities Network (SCN) constitutes a law enforcement initiative that is set to be implemented across the globe that claims to want to “strengthen community resilience against violent extremism.”

            As Obama stated in a recent speech he delivered at the UN, “violent extremism” is not something that is exclusive to Islam, so who exactly does the president want to use this global police force against?

            According to Breitbart:

            The United Nations is a sharia-compliant world body, and Obama, speaking there just days ago, insisted that “violent extremism” is not exclusive to Islam (which it is). Obama is redefining jihad terror to include everyone but the jihadists. So will the UN, driven largely by the sharia-enforcing Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and the pro-Islamic post-American President Obama, use a “global police force” to crush counter-jihad forces?

            After all, with Obama knowingly aiding al-Qaeda forces in Syria, how likely is it that he will use his “global police force” against actual Islamic jihadists? I suspect that instead, this global police force will be used to impose the blasphemy laws under the sharia (Islamic law), and to silence all criticism of Islam for the President who proclaimed that “the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”

            What is a global police force doing in our cities? This is exactly the abdication of American sovereignty that I warned about in my book, The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America. The Obama Department of Justice made it clear that it was exactly that when it distributed a press release last week announcing the “Launch of Strong Cities Network to Strengthen Community Resilience Against Violent Extremism.” In that press release, the DoJ complained that “while many cities and local authorities are developing innovative responses to address this challenge, no systematic efforts are in place to share experiences, pool resources and build a community of cities to inspire local action on a global scale.”

            So if the local and municipal effort to counter the euphemistic and disingenuous “violent extremism” is inadequate and hasn’t developed “systematic efforts are in place to share experiences, pool resources and build a community of cities to inspire local action on a global scale,” the feds – and the UN – have to step in. Thus the groundwork is being laid for federal and international interference down to the local level. “The Strong Cities Network,” Lynch declared, “will serve as a vital tool to strengthen capacity-building and improve collaboration” – i.e., local dependence on federal and international authorities.

            Lynch made the global (that is, United Nations) involvement clear when she added: “As we continue to counter a range of domestic and global terror threats, this innovative platform will enable cities to learn from one another, to develop best practices and to build social cohesion and community resilience here at home and around the world.”

            Allowing a global police force that is not subject to American laws or the Constitution to operate within the United States — without the consent of Congress — is something completely foreign and unacceptable to the American consciousness. Although AG Lynch claims the SCN would be used to “enable cities to learn from one another, to develop best practices and to build social cohesion and community resilience,” Americans should be on alert.

            Since when has the Obama administration done anything to strengthen America? He refuses to call terrorism by its name and refuses to accept that those carrying out terrorism throughout the world almost exclusively belong to one particular group.

          3. bobnstuff says:

            Breitbart is one of the least reliable news sources on the net. If you check real facts you will find that this story is a twisting of half truths and lies. If this is where you get your news then no wonder you are clueless.

          4. girls_mom says:

            Don’t waste your time. It’s a study in futility. I have answered him, one last time. Conversion to the truth come in an epiphany. One day a cord will resonate as being out of tune and a mental shift will occur. Until, that time, explanations, facts etc., will do nothing to allow the slightest ray of light to penetrate the darkness of a mental state that does not allow your reality any place in what they consider their reality.
            God Bless America and the patriots who believe in what she has always stood for, and will again!!

          5. used_to_be_a_liberal says:

            you are right, and we will again, right after Obama is gone.

          6. girls_mom says:

            Credibility Gap? All of those philosophies have similarity and some interchangeable parts. Each of them is designed to oppress, control, and stifle any form of individuality or autonomy.

          7. bobnstuff says:

            Each of these philosophies have their own economic system and are not anti democratic in their own right. Socialism and communism are true economic systems that can and do work in a democratic society. Using them as swear words seems wrong for me. Calling the President them is childish and shows just how immature these people are. Why not just call him a poopy head.

          8. girls_mom says:

            Sure- they’re not anti-Democratic! They all support individual freedoms.(sic) That’s why Eastern Germans died by the thousands, trying to get over the wall and out of the Russian-occupied section of Germany until pure Communism went the way of all philosophies designed to support the “state;” and those brave souls who defied it, were cruelly punished. Death in those cases would have been a welcomed relief!
            Name me one country displaying that “true economic and democratic society’ that you praise so highly; that is flourishing and its people are thrilled living under their totalitarian oppression?
            How many Chinese students died fighting for freedom in Beijing, China’s Tiananmen Square at the hands of government troops? While the anti-Pope was glad-handing his friend Castro ( I’m a practicing Roman Catholic -so no remarks, thank you about my description of that Peronista, Francis) while dissenters in the street, rallying against Castro’s regime of brutality and denial of Human Rights were hauled off, in front of the Pope, and locked up. Would you like to hazard a guess on what their fate is?
            You know what the problem is? You have never lived under pure socialism, communism. Marxism, Stalinism, and the other infamous “isms” It’s easy to view it from a distance and be mesmerized by orations of “Transformation,” which happens incrementally as to not feel its horrendous effects, until it’s is too late.
            There should be an Optional Exchange program, for folks such as you, to be allowed to live in an oppressive country for 5-years (must stay there- no running back when it gets ugly) and be subjected, just as a citizen of that country is, to its laws, brutality and its denial of simple rights; all of those good things that you seem to think are under those systems that “can and do work” in a democratic society. These systems have failed time and again. People have revolted to claim the humanity which is denied them under these systems.
            The green grass won’t seem so green if you’re looking at it from those shores, in the shoes of the people condemned to live it every day.
            Take off the rose-colored glasses and stop advocating systems you have never, in your life, labored under and talk to people who have escaped from those “fiestas of freedom” so you jauntily express as good and workable. Listen to their stories while tears roll down their cheeks and only then you may get a slight understanding of what we are in for if our course does not change and be grateful for what you have have in this country instead of vilifying it.
            Have a great day!

          9. bobnstuff says:

            Here is a list of the ten most socialist countries. You will notice all but one are democracies.

          10. Wolfman says:

            Democratic actually has nothing to do with it. The USA is A Constitutional Democratic Republic. It is our Constitution that has set us apart from everyone else…and it is this sitting President who has violated his oath of office to support the Constitution that has this country riled up. Voting is nothing without an honest Government( they voted in the USSR, they vote in Russia, in Cuba, etc.)….to paraphrase Yogi Berra ” Voting ain’t got nothing to do with democracy in a lot of places”.

          11. bobnstuff says:

            People keep saying that Obama violated the constitution but the facts say different. As far as being a Constitutional Democratic Republic it still doesn’t make a difference. Did you look at the list of the most socialist countries. You will notice Canada is on the list. Ireland is there to. It’s funny that when the 4th amendment was gutted by the Patriot Act the Constitutionalists didn’t say a word, when Bush did warrantless wire tapes no one complained much but let someone at Fox tell the world that Obama is breaking the constitution and the right goes wild. By the way the guy at Fox has no education in the law or anything else.

          12. girls_mom says:

            I have friends that live in Canada. He’s Canadian, she is an American and their children have dual citizenship. They have a thriving business, are wealthy and continue to work long, hard hours for that success.Incidentally, they started out with nothing and worked for everything they accrued in life.
            Neither of them are happy Buckeroos in having socialized medicine (they sometimes come to the USA for excellent medical care) and paying great sums of taxes for Canada’s version of “wealth distribution.”
            When, do you kill people’s incentive to keep creating and working hard when you are literally punished for succeeding by having to pay enormous taxes to support others who would rather “take’ than “do” for themselves?
            This is the fallacy of “socialism” vs. “Individualism.”
            That’s why the majority of people in this country love OUR Constitution that outline our Liberties.
            Here’s one that the Progressive Left-wing ignores totally: Number 7 of the 28 Principles of Liberty:

            “Principle 7 – The proper role of government is to protect equal rights, not provide equal things.”
            The Founders recognized that the people cannot delegate to their government any power except that which they have the lawful right to exercise themselves.

            Progressives ignore Principle 7- because it succinctly defines that equal rights are protected by the government; those rights do not extend to providing (those are the defining words “not providing “equal things.”)
            So much for “wealth distribution” coming under the auspices of the government!! It’s against the principles of our Constitution.

            What always amazing me; when progressives push so diligently to convert this country to socialism, Marxism or Communism, why these disgruntled anti-America advocates, just don’t move to a country operating under the form of government with the “ism” closest to the heart, instead of trying to destroy this form of government.
            This Republic was designed to promote ‘Individualism’, my and the majority of Americans’ favorite “ism.”
            There is a plethora of horrible places to live in with sad “isms,” so, why don’t they emigrate there, allowing those who prefer this ‘ism’, their choice, also?

          13. bobnstuff says:

            Canada has an effective tax rate of 32% we have an effective rate of 27%. I get to pay another 10% of my income for health insurance with a $5000 per year deductible,. Why do I get the bill for a sports stadium I have never been in, an airport I don’t fly out of and extra police in the better neighborhoods? Why is it bad to redistribute wealth down but not up?

          14. girls_mom says:

            The people shouldn’t be getting bills for sports stadiums, paying for airports in any way, nor should we be supporting public television that is government owned (the government is not supposed to own anything) and we should not be providing money to support failing car manufacturers nor alleged “public” transit, owned by individuals.
            I hear commuter trains at our home at the shore go by in two-hour intervals, half of the cars are empty, and the tax payers are footing the bill for this so-called public transportation not owned by the “public” (owned by individuals) whose elite upper echelon running these trains are drawing salaries of several hundred thousand per year. Corporate Welfare needs to be abolished.The middle-class which is the largest contributor of all taxes that these socialist programs come from, have the least of all. The rich can afford to live on their own and we are graciously supporting those who get welfare who in many instances are hail and hearty and can work. It’s the middle-class that is barely surviving trying to maintain food, clothing and shelter for their families. College? The illegals get it for free and so do welfare recipients. Once again, it’s the hard working middle-class trying to find a way to educate their children.
            I am a firm believer in Ayn Rand’s philosophy of “Capitalism.” If a business cannot succeed on its own and make a profit, it should fall by the wayside and make room for a business that can.”
            The only people in this country that should have any type of welfare are the elderly and the sick. If you’re healthy and on welfare, you should be put to work doing something in the town or city you are drawing your welfare checks from.

          15. bobnstuff says:

            You have a large case of misinformation. The government doesn’t own public broadcasting. They are privately own my non profits. We loaned money to save the Auto industry which is now doing fine but would have been gone had the government not stepped in. Most people on welfare have jobs, they get food stamps. I guess you have never heard of the working poor. You also don’t seem to know that if you can work you are limited on how long you can get support. Illegals don’t get college for free and many get nothing from our government but still pay taxes. Ayn Rand was a spoiled little girl who slept with the rich and famous. She also wasn’t a very good writer. You really need to start checking what you think are facts because you have been very mislead but someone.

          16. girls_mom says:

            Once again you’ve jumped the gun and landed in the lake.. Every one, and me specifically, seems to be very misled on all issues, even when facts are provided.

            Here you go.. public tv.. for your reading pleasure

            The Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) is a non-profit corporationcreated by an act of the United States Congress and funded by the United States federal government to promote public broadcasting.[1] Between 15 and 20 percent of the aggregate revenues of all public broadcasting stations have been funded from federal sources, principally through the CPB.[2]

            The CPB was created on November 7, 1967, when U.S. president Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Public Broadcasting Act of 1967. The new organization initially collaborated with the existing National Educational Television network. In 1969, the CPB talked to private groups to start the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS).[3] In 1970, the CPB formed National Public Radio (NPR), aradio network consisting of public stations.[3]

            The CPB provides some funding for the PBS, NPR, and, to a lesser extent, for other broadcasters that are independent of those organizations. In more recent years, the CPB has started funding some Internet-based projects.


            Thanks once again to LBJ. The Progressive Democrat’s best friend who interfered with and kept spreading out the long, obtrusive and choking fingers of government.

          17. bobnstuff says:

            Here is a link to the license for WQED TV in Pittsburgh, the oldest public television station in the country. Look at who it is issued to .

            The person who got congress to fund public TV was Fred Rogers,

          18. I Seigel says:

            A Nazi is a far right wing nutjob. A Commie is a far left wing nutjob. Are you talking about a Norman Bates-type of person? Do you even understand what you’re talking about? Used_to_be_a_liberal is now_just_a_clueless_idiot.

          19. used_to_be_a_liberal says:

            Yes I know what I am talking about, obviously you don’t, so here is a little lesson for you;
            Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD), German Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands, Germany’s oldest political party and one of the country’s two main parties (the other being the Christian Democratic Union). It advocates the modernization of the economy to meet the demands of globalization, but it also stresses the need to address the social needs of workers and society’s disadvantaged.History

            The SPD traces its origins to the merger in 1875 of the General German Workers’ Union, led by Ferdinand Lassalle, and the Social Democratic Workers’ Party, headed by August Bebel and Wilhelm Liebknecht. In 1890 it adopted its current name, the Social Democratic Party of Germany. The party’s early history was characterized by frequent and intense internal conflicts between so-called revisionists and orthodox Marxists and by persecution by the German government and its chancellor, Otto von Bismarck. The revisionists, led at various times by Lassalle and Eduard Bernstein, argued that social and economic justice could be achieved for the working class through democratic elections and institutions and without a violent class struggle and revolution. The orthodox Marxists insisted that free elections and civil rights would not create a truly socialist society and that the ruling class would never cede power without a fight. Indeed, German elites of the late 19th century considered the very existence of a socialist party a threat to the security and stability of the newly unified Reich, and from 1878 to 1890 the party was officially outlawed.

            Despite laws prohibiting the party from holding meetings and distributing literature, the SPD attracted growing support and was able to continue to contest elections, and by 1912 it was the largest party in the Reichstag (“Imperial Diet”), receiving more than one-third of the national vote. However, its vote in favour of war credits in 1914 and Germany’s disastrous fate in World War I led to an internal split, with the centrists under Karl Kautsky forming the Independent Social Democratic Party and the left under Rosa Luxemburg and Liebknecht forming the Spartacus League, which in December 1918 became the Communist Party of Germany (KPD).

            The right wing of the SPD, under Friedrich Ebert, joined with liberals and conservatives to crush the Soviet-style uprisings in Germany in 1918–20. Following World War I, the SPD played a central role in the formation of the Weimar Republic and in its brief and tragic history. In the general election of 1919 the SPD received 37.9 percent of the vote (while the Independent Social Democrats received another 7.6 percent), but the party’s failure to win favourable terms from the Allies at the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 (terms embodied in the Treaty of Versailles) and the country’s severe economic problems led to a drop in support. Nevertheless, together with the Roman Catholic and liberal parties, it was part of several coalition governments, but it was forced to expend much effort on its competition with the KPD for the support of the working class. In 1924 the SPD, which had by then reunited with the Independents, won only one-fifth of the vote. Although its core support among blue-collar workers remained relatively stable, the SPD lost support among white-collar workers and small businessmen, many of whom switched their allegiance to the conservatives and later to the Nazi Party. By 1933 the SPD held only 120 of 647 seats in the Reichstag to the Nazis’ 288 and the Communists’ 81.

            The SPD was outlawed soon after the Nazis came to power in 1933. However, in 1945, with the fall of Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich, the SPD was revived. It was the only surviving party from the Weimar period with an unblemished record of opposition to Hitler; unlike other Weimar parties, the SPD had maintained exile organizations in Britain and the United States during the Third Reich. In addition, an underground organization had operated within Germany and managed to survive fairly intact. Thus, when democratic elections resumed in occupied Germany after the war, the SPD had a large advantage over its rivals, and it was expected to become the country’s governing party.

            The SPD did indeed do very well in most Land- (state-) level elections held between 1946 and 1948. However, in West Germany’s first national election, held in 1949, the SPD was narrowly defeated by the newly formed Christian Democrats, who were able to put together a majority coalition with several smaller centre-right parties. The 1949 loss was followed by decisive defeats in 1953 and 1957.

            Following the 1957 election, a group of reformers drawn largely from areas where the party was strongest (e.g., West Berlin, North Rhine–Westphalia, and Hamburg) initiated a reassessment of the party’s leadership, organization, and policies. They concluded that the SPD had badly misread postwar public opinion. Most Germans, they believed, were tired of ideological rhetoric about the class struggle, economic planning, and government takeovers of industry—policies then central to the party’s program. Voters were also satisfied with West Germany’s membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the European Economic Community and had little interest in the SPD’s emphasis on reuniting the country through a neutralist foreign policy. Thus, at a special party conference in Bad Godesberg in 1959, the SPD formally cast off nearly a century of commitment to socialism by embracing the market economy; the party also endorsed the NATO alliance and abandoned its traditional anticlerical attitude.

            The Bad Godesberg program proved successful. From 1961 to 1972 the SPD increased its national vote from 36 to nearly 46 percent. In 1966 it entered a grand coalition with its chief rival, the Christian Democratic Union–Christian Social Union (CDU-CSU) alliance, and from 1969 to 1982 the SPD governed as the dominant coalition partner with the Free Democratic Party (FDP). During the party’s tenure in office in this period, both SPD chancellors, Willy Brandt and Helmut Schmidt, initiated major changes in foreign and domestic policy; for example, Brandt pursued a foreign policy of peace and reconciliation with eastern Europe and the Soviet Union, and Schmidt successfully guided Germany through the turbulent economic crises of the 1970s. By 1982, however, 16 years of governing had taken their toll. The party was deeply divided over both environmental and military policies, and the party’s leaders had lost support among much of the rank and file. For example, Schmidt’s support for a new generation of NATO nuclear missiles to be deployed in Germany was opposed by the great majority of the party’s activists. In 1982 the party’s coalition partner, the FDP, ousted the SPD from office and in turn helped elect the CDU’s Helmut Kohl chancellor.

            The SPD remained out of power at the national level from 1982 to 1998, suffering four successive election losses. In 1998, led by Gerhard Schröder, the SPD, running on a centrist agenda, was able to form a governing coalition with the Green Party. Schröder had campaigned on a platform of lower taxes and cuts in government spending to spur investment and create jobs. Despite the inability of Schröder’s government to revive the economy and reduce unemployment, the SPD was narrowly reelected in 2002, a victory largely credited to the popular appeal of Schröder’s response to historic floods in the country and his pledge not to endorse or participate in U.S. military action against Iraq.

            During its second term in government, the SPD was unable to reduce unemployment or revive the country’s stagnant economy, and it suffered a series of devastating losses in state elections. Thousands of party members left the SPD in protest over cuts in what were considered sacred programs, such as unemployment benefits and health care, and some ex-SPD members formed an alternative party under former SPD leader Oskar Lafontaine; the new party jointly campaigned in 2005 with the eastern-based Party of Democratic Socialism (PDS). Despite the split and dissatisfaction with the SPD government, Schröder still retained widespread popularity, and the SPD captured 34 percent of the national vote. It fell only four seats shy of the CDU-CSU, but neither was able to form a majority government with its preferred coalition partner because of the success of Lafontaine’s new party and the PDS. After negotiation, the SPD entered into a grand coalition with the CDU-CSU as the junior partner, and Schröder resigned the chancellorship.David P. Conradt

            In Germany’s 2009 parliamentary elections, the SPD experienced a devastating drop in support. The party won just 23 percent of the national vote, and its number of seats in the Bundestag fell from 222 to 146—a number well below the CDU-CSU’s 239 seats. The SPD was thus forced out of Germany’s coalition government and into a position of opposition. Its position improved as a result of the 2013 parliamentary elections; though it finished second with about 26 percent of the vote, the SPD faced the possibility of joining the government of the election-winning CDU-CSU alliance, whose previous coalition partner, the FDP, had failed to reach the threshold necessary for representation in the Bundestag.Ed.Policy and structure

            Although the SPD still proclaims its allegiance to social justice and the welfare state, the majority of the party recognizes that economic growth and employment require a favourable investment climate and that Germany’s traditionally high labour and nonwage labour costs (e.g., pensions, unemployment and health benefits, and accident insurance) were sometimes a hindrance to the creation of new jobs. Reluctantly, the SPD has come to support comprehensive reductions in the costs of these programs. In foreign policy the party is firmly committed to the European Union, and it has at various times been lukewarm to the country’s partnership with the United States.

            Historically, the SPD has been a mass-membership party that has sought to encourage individuals to become active, dues-paying members. As a result, the SPD has had the largest membership of any German political party, and it receives more financial support (about one-third of its overall income) from membership dues than any other party.

            The SPD’s internal organization is highly democratic, a characteristic that also extends to its procedures. The core unit of the party organization is the local association (Ortsverein), of which there are more than 12,000 throughout the country. These are grouped into subdistrict, district, and state organizations. At the national level a party congress is convened every two years to determine policy and to elect the members of the Executive Committee and the arbitration and control commissions. The Executive Committee, which manages the party’s internal affairs, in turn elects the 13-member Presidium, which serves as the party’s ruling inner circle. Women must make up at least two-fifths of both the Executive Committee and the Presidium. The Presidium meets at least weekly at the party’s headquarters in Berlin to formulate and announce party positions on major issues and to schedule major party events. In 1998 the office of General Secretary was created largely to coordinate the party’s electoral campaigns.David P. Conradt

          20. bobnstuff says:

            Did you read what you posted?

          21. I Seigel says:


          22. Duzinkiewicz says:

            Thank you for your accurate history of the SPD. The text is cut off with “the success of Lafontaine’s new party and the PDS”. I would add to your history how the first social safety net was created by Bismarck in the 1880s in response to the growing number of SPD members in parliament despite the party being illegal and, the second point, how the SPD was the last party to oppose the Enabling Act in 1934 and hence the last defender of Weimar democracy. Why do you assume people you disagree with are ignorant, especially since you are so knowledgeable?

          23. girls_mom says:

            I found no indication of his assuming people are ignorant if they disagree with him. All he did was supply historical data in rebuttal to a statement that was totally inaccurate by supplying him with a composite of facts. Never let an opportunity to teach or learn more, go to waste…seems admirable to me.

          24. Duzinkiewicz says:

            He did say the individual did not know what he was talking about. But after reading that individual’s comments, I misspoke.

          25. girls_mom says:

            We have all had those moments. 🙂

          26. girls_mom says:

            Excellent! Thanks for enlightening those who haven’t a clue about historical facts. You must realize of course, that “facts” never come within the liberal purview when their opinions are always more valid, in their minds, then historical data, which is not only over their heads, but booorrrring. 🙂

          27. used_to_be_a_liberal says:

            thanks, it is really too bad that they don’t bother to search out where ALL of their so-called progressive ideology originated.

          28. girls_mom says:


          29. Wolfman says:

            Very informative….however I believe that when the Nazi Party is mentioned it is typically associated with Hitler and not the modern SPD. Plus I learned a long time ago that Sigs feeds off this political bickering like a shark. In actuality he is a very interesting person to have a dialogue with …and contrary to his posts actually has an open mind.

          30. used_to_be_a_liberal says:

            thanks for the input, I will keep that in mind.

          31. Wolfman says:

            Now ! Now! Now! Sigs….be like sedate Tony Romo and mix a Nazi and a Commie and call it a Nommie… settle down your BP is thru the roof. You are correct though consistency is a mark of excellence and putting together inconsistent strings of various extreme political philosophies is a mark of a very frustrated individual.

          32. I Seigel says:

            You must be a remarkable individual if you can monitor someone’s BP from far away. Amazing! As to the rest of your post — huh?

          33. Phannesa says:

            bobncrap only wants to fight!

          34. used_to_be_a_liberal says:

            well, can’t expect much more then that from a left-wit, after-all they are far too easily offended.

    2. Wolfman says:

      John Kasich lost it at the last debate. He is a Rhino who’s time has passed. He is basically an old time Democrat , with a fiscal control / liberal social type of mentality. He is no conservative by a long shot….I believe you will not find a lot of like minded voters in this election, unless they are non-socialist Democrats, which are a disappearing breed.

      1. bobnstuff says:

        I don’t want one of the “new republicans” most of them are fools and would lead the country right into a ditch. John understands the government, the country and can get things done. He’s a moderate which is what the country needs to pull it back together. The far right seems to think that they are the only Americans and that no one else should have a say. That view is un-American and is killing our country. A moderate can see both sides and will work with both sides for the good of the country. You can call them all the names you want but it’s the moderates that are the true Americans. I believe that there are more moderates then conservatives would like to believe. The Freedom Caucus only makes up about 15% of the congress, the Tea Party is dropping in followers. Us old time republicans may just be able to get our party back.

        1. girls_mom says:

          The reason that we are seeing a surge in energy in this country and the will for the People to rise up and take this country back is predicated on the ‘Outsiders,” that are running and not the same old business as usual phonies.
          A moderate Republican will lose the election. McCain (RINO personified), Romney (moderate with baggage- RomneyCare and no appeal for the Evangelicals and Fundamentalists) consecutively lost the last two presidential elections.
          Why vote for a moderate Republican when we would get nothing more than a Democrat-light, espousing the same give-it-all-away, amnesty for illegals and the People be d#mned, policies?
          The Republicans garnered both houses in the last two elections because of Tea Party candidates taking seats with conservative ideologies. It took more than just Republicans to swing those two houses to a Republican majority. You had Independents and Reagan Democrats that hoped for change, also.
          Unfortunately, we had Boehner (and now Ryan with the same mindset) and still have Old McConnell, the RINO chicken farmer, as usual -enabling Obama and blocking important bills that never get to the floor.
          The People have seen, first hand, every move that conservatives make to realign America back on track from ObaMao’s path of destruction, gets blocked by RINOs and socialist Democrats.
          This country has been at a stale-mate. So, now the People have rebelled nationally. We have no intention of joining them, so we are out to beat them!
          How do you do that? You ignore the party machines and the candidates they are pushing for the nominee that they can control.
          Moderates don’t work with both sides for the good of the country, [they] fall in line with the socialist Democrats and join forces.
          We have been witnessing the effects of moderate Republicans in cahoots with the socialist Democrats as we speak. The Democrats have one philosophy: It’s their way or the highway.
          Remember ObamaCare? That mental case, Pelosi, told us, “We have to pass it, before you know what’s in it?”
          They told the Republicans to basically sit in the back of the bus. The Democrats “owned” the Congress and without any input, discussion or reading the darn bill, shoved it down the throats of Americans, without needing any votes from Republicans.That’s the Democrats idea of “working together.”
          The label “moderate,” means nothing more than the status quo will remain.
          That’s why an “Insider” is out for President – they are untrustworthy, and the People know it. Only a conservative “Outsider,” can make this country great again.
          Here’s a example of Outsiders gaining support of all people who want this country off this road to Perdition:
          Maryland just voted its first Republican governor in 40-years, into office. A Conservative businessman – an Outsider.
          Lincoln said it…..You can’t fool all of the People, all of the Time, and we’re not being fooled anymore.PERIOD
          B/tw if you’re an old time Republican, you wouldn’t be looking for a moderate – you would be part of the 58% of the base – conservative and the Tea Party is alive and well and not losing, but gaining followers, thank you. The Tea Party is, what the Republicans use to stand for. 🙂

  • Mrs. O says:

    Good for Trump. The moderators don’t ask the questions WE want to know.

    1. bobnstuff says:

      Did you know where the questions came from? They got most from people on line, they asked for questions. These were the thing people wanted answers to. Here are some of the questions that were asked, tell me which one you didn’t think needed asked.
      I guess you want a two hour long campaign ad, not a debate.

      1. Phannesa says:

        The moderators are leftist at heart, never vote Republican, their audience for MSNBC is hard leftist. The questions were the kind to provoke fights and insult the debaters. I, for example, want to hear the plans for their taxes, obamacare, etc, as well as the plans for taking control of the borders. We hardly if ever hear these questions. I don’t need an entertainment debate, I need figures and clear strategies. You never hear these moderators being insulting and disrespectful during democrat debates!!!! Enough is enough!!!

        1. bobnstuff says:

          The Democrats didn’t jump at the bate, the republicans did. If Trump really wanted to present his plan for America in the debates why would he want them shorter? I fear you have been listening to the right for so long you don’t know where hard left is. The debate is reality TV like most news shows today, not a great way to get information.

          1. Phannesa says:

            You mean bait. the questions to the dem debate went extremely easy on the debaters. You don’t know me, ahole, you are the low info voter, a true liberal!!!

          2. bobnstuff says:

            So what question that you wanted to hear the answer to wasn’t asked?

          3. girls_mom says:

            And pray tell, what bait was thrown out to Democrats? That was a love-in. All that occurred on that so-called debate was soft-peddling questions designed to give Hitlery Rotten Clinton a platform for another campaign speech while the moderators pushed their progressive agenda to what they hoped will be another level of enchantment to the viewers, to buy into further destruction of the true American way of life in favor of an oligarchy.
            Puleeeze. Comrade Bernie’s sham candidacy is nothing more than a foil to make Clinton appear to have a rival.This guy’s chance of becoming the President is about equal to a snowball’s chance in H#ll.
            Are you really so naive that you believe the American people will vote for an admitted Socialist as opposed to sneaky,denying supporters of Alinsky who are appealing to the lazy, want for free conglomeration of losers that keep thinking Free is really Free? Margaret Thatcher said it best, “The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money [to spend].”
            Are you aware that Hiltery Clinton’s thesis in college was dedicated to Saul Alinsky? There’s a clue….
            People with a brain are on to her and what other horrors she has in store for this country on her way to topping Obama and his destruction of this country from the inside out.
            Since you are such a fan of progressive left-wing ideologies I’m sure you are familiar with Coward-Piven, the paradigm Obama is following courtesy of two of his communist professors at Columbia? It’s a blue-print on how to transform a free country into a disabled communist society from the core outward.
            Obama thought he was the Pied Piper of Orations and I think he never expected any dissenters but thought we would all be enthralled by his orations (via his inimitable” Binky,” -the prompter he is never without). He honestly believed this country would be a piece of cake to ‘Transform.”

            He doesn’t have a clue on just how rankled real Americans get when you push them too far. Grassroots organizations cropped up like scented spring flowers and they will continue as more and more Americans have joined forces with them.
            We’re seeing the effects of what he has created that is unacceptable to the People. Both political parties that are a cartel of corruption though their unscrupulous overt actions imagined they would just continue to keep the status quo without any confrontation, as usual, all joining together to have complete power over the masses. Wrong! They are shaking in their boots because they have finally lost control of the People who are fighting back.This is one of the best years we’ve experienced in peaceful revolution since Obama took office. And it’s looking even better for 2017!

          4. bobnstuff says:

            Secretary Clinton, I want to start with you. Plenty of politicians evolve on issues, but even some Democrats believe you change your positions based on political expediency. You were against same-sex marriage. Now you’re for it. You defended President Obama’s immigration policies. Now you say they’re too harsh. You supported his trade deal dozen of times. You even called it the “gold standard”. Now, suddenly, last week, you’re against it. Will you say anything to get elected?
            I guess questions like this are to soft.
            If Obama is going to convert our county to a communist country he had better get started, he only has a little over a year to do it.
            No I don’t think Bernie stands much of a chance but you never know.
            You have a very limited view of what is happening in this country. People are going back to work, the stock market is back, home prices are back, our economy is growing. All with out the help of the republican party. Just think what could have been done had the republicans decided to help.
            Just for the record, I’m not a Hillary supporter. I’m a Kasich supporter. I would like some one in the White House that knows what they are doing.

      2. girls_mom says:

        Dealing with liberal minds en masse are we…. no wonder one of the most profound questions was ” Do you see yourself as a comic book, villain…?.” that was asked of Donald Trump.
        That amazing question gave the voters some real insight into Donald’s position on what? The Unemployment System? 52-million people encouraged by ObaMao to hit the Welfare roles? All the free phones and credit cards handed out to illegals in New York.. ad infinitum….. ignorance is bliss, seems to be the mantra of liberals. Look what we have running our country, voted in by blissful ignorance.

        1. bobnstuff says:

          Here is a little fact you don’t seem to know. Obama has nothing to do with who gets welfare. The system is state run. Obama didn’t cause the job loss, that was because of the economy going over a cliff. The free phones are not government paid for and the program started under Bush. You want to blame the president for a lot of things he has no control over. You really need to get your facts straight. By the way the comic book question was from a voter. About half their questions came from people.

          1. girls_mom says:

            I know, 8-years later…… it’s Bush’s fault. So, what’s new???
            No, you need to get yours straight and stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
            We have lower gasoline prices? Do you think Obama had anything to do with that? Quite the obverse.
            Here’s an example of facts: After the oil -spill in the Gulf, Obama illegally declared a moratorium on drilling, which is outside his purview as President. In a 22-page opinion, a Federal Judge, Martin L.C. Feldman of the United States District Court, blocked Obama’s Moratorium. Obama was then held in contempt of that court for failure to comply, until he played one last trick – lifted the moratorium, but has made it virtually impossible for any certifications to be had, to drill in the Gulf.
            [He] had impeded, in every way possible, the Canadian pipeline to get on the fast track to create jobs for Americans and send those Middle-Eastern, Muslim oil magnates into a lower income bracket by not being beholden to them for oil.
            But….. wait for it…..Obama got trumped (love that expression) by private citizens who have oil laden properties that he can’t get his hands on as long as we have some Judges that are still willing to uphold our Constitution. It is the private citizens who are producing the abundance of oil that has lowered the price of gasoline to take some of the financial burden off downtrodden Americans. Not Obama. Do you understand that….Not Obama!
            Just as Obama showed up in New Jersey yesterday to speak about crime and the effects of lowering it according to his newest plans; was trumped again, when Governor Christy, who is the real author and push behind the lower crime rates in New Jersey, made it clear on Fox and Friends, here comes Obama, to take credit once again, for nothing he had a hand in.!!

          2. bobnstuff says:

            The Keystone XL pipeline would have created 55 full time jobs and the oil wasn’t for us. The Tar Sand oil is nasty stuff and if you look at the record of the Keystone pipeline that is in service running to Illinois you might realize just why expanding it might not be a good idea. Obama has opened up public land to drilling like no president before him.
            As far as the push behind the lower crime rate I think the guy who paid for the program might get some of the credit.

          3. girls_mom says:

            Oooooh Bob, motherjones? really? One of the most anti-american, left-wing blogs on the net. Geesh!

          4. girls_mom says:

            Obama opened up public land to to drilling? Where? Any drilling has come under the purview of the States where it is flourishing.
            The Gulf of Mexico is now a memory – too late to even consider that “public” area for drilling. The crews, equipment have all gone to on to fertile areas that welcome drilling.
            The reason behind Obama’s permanent shut down of the Keystone XL pipeline has nothing to do with conserving the oil for a time we really need it. We have more oil in this country than the Arabs do.


            Obama has killed the Keystone XL pipeline at the behest of his “pal” the owner of the Canadian Pacific Railway that brings the oil in from Canada -Warren Buffet (who has vehemently denounced it…. what a surprise??), the billionaire that was an Obama supporter twice-around.
            Obama can’t let Buffet’s profits diminish in exchange for any number of jobs that would help Americans; whether it be 50 or 50,000.
            Buffet is another ‘switch-hitter’ when it comes to providing us with his “pearls of wisdom,” (sic) from politics to what people should eat.
            A greedy, unconscionable, self-serving, little man( running a close second to Soros -the Nazi-collaborator in WWII); whose major concern first and foremost is Warren Buffet -buying dirty politicians is just another part of his corporate sphere which has served him well in his lust for more money and power.

          5. bobnstuff says:

            Obama opened up the Atlantic coast for drilling. as well as parts of the north shore of Alaska.
            The Gulf produced 18% of the oil in the US in 2014 and it looks like production could be higher this year.
            If you check the facts on Keystone XL you would see it’s a bad deal for the US, we take the risks and Canada gets the profits. It’s nasty oil that eats pipelines. Check the records of the Keystone pipeline in use right now. You do know that there already is a pipeline running right now from Canada to Illinois. Special rail cars need to be built to haul the stuff because it is much more explosive then sweet crude. Ask yourself just why does Canada want to ship it across America instead of across Canada? As far as jobs what creates more jobs, a pipeline or a railroad?

      3. Mrs. O says:

        I submitted questions too and the moderators didn’t even touch on them.

        1. bobnstuff says:

          But would your question have made good TV, it’s all about ratings. Ask Trump, he will tell you that. He thinks that the Networks should be paying him. It’s all part of the show!

          1. Mrs. O says:

            I know it’s all about ratings. That’s what I hate about the moderators. I’m not interested in being entertained. I want to hear the candidates beliefs and plans of action so I’ll know who better fits my idea of who the President should be. The questions the moderators ask are purely for entertainment value which leaves us all still wondering what the candidates plans of action will be. The election of a President is a serious thing and should be treated as such. I’m tired of watching 2 hours of debates and still not knowing any more than I knew before.

          2. bobnstuff says:

            I don’t believe you can learn much from these primary debates. I try to watch them but I have a real problem with being lied to. I have a system for studying the candidates. First I read their Bio, on line. I want to know who they where before college and what jobs they have had growing up. Then I look at the college years. What did they study and where. I want to see if they have lived in the real world. Once out of school did the do anything that served others. This is the base they will build their lives on. I don’t like rick kids, they don’t understand the people that work for a living. In this election I ruled out Trump and Bush right off the line. Next I look at what they have done with their adult life. Ted has never worked for anyone but the government. No real world job. Rubio is to young and is in to big a hurry. Carson doesn’t have the back ground to lead the country, I have never know a Doctor that was good in the real world. Bernie is just a little to flaky for me plus I don’t think he is electable. Hillary has the back ground but I just don’t feel comfortable with her as the leader of the country, If it’s her or Trump I would have to vote for her but she isn’t my first choice. The only one running that I believe could do the job well stands about as much chance as Bernie and that’s John Kasich. I know the area he grow up in and I’m sure he understands the working man and the real world, you can’t get much more real then McKees Rocks Pa. As I say it’s to bad he would be the candidate.

          3. Mrs. O says:

            I don’t go into all the research you do. It’s a good idea but I don’t do it. I’ve always relied on my gut feeling of a person’s character and I’m happy to say I’ve never been wrong. I’m a good judge of character. I listen intently to what they have to say and I watch their eyes and facial expressions. I won’t denigrate any of the candidates except for Hillary. I have never liked or respected her ever since she was the First Lady. I would vote for Peewee Herman before I’d vote for Hillary. I like John Kasich and had a good feeling about his character and liked what he stood for but he is too low on the polls and doesn’t have a chance. Of the candidates that are highest in the polls, my best gut feeling as far as character goes is Dr. Ben Carson. He doesn’t have any political experience but neither did George Washington. I believe Dr. Carson is wise enough to surround himself with experts and seek their advice, which is what every smart President does. He thinks things out and when he speaks his words have a huge impact, unlike Donald Trump who blurts out words before he thinks about them and then has a hard time explaining to people what he really meant to say. As of today my vote is for Carson. I also like Huckabee a lot and I donated to his campaign several times but he’s falling way behind and I don’t think he has a chance either. Too bad.

          4. bobnstuff says:

            I believe in evolution and find it hard vote for someone how doesn’t.. They base their disbelief on the bible. One doesn’t exclude the other in my mind. Evolution is the how the bible is the why. It’s way to early to put any faith in the polls or even the first primary or so. After all Santorum won Iowa last time, there’s a real slime ball. I was near his house the other day, every time I drive by it I think about the lies he told about living there after he had rented it out. Kasich is still my first choice and I hope he lasts long enough that I get to vote for him in the primary. I would like just once to vote for some one I like.

          5. pete G says:

            Bob, How did i guess that you weren’t a Christian? Guys like you are scared to death of the very people that made this country great and now you want nothing to do with them.

          6. bobnstuff says:

            I have been saved for a very long time and walk in the shoes of my Lord Jesus. I try to be Christ like and be caring and giving to others. Because of my faith I don’t fear the world. I pray for those people that are so selfish that they forget that we must help all people and care for all people. I hate no one.

          7. pete G says:

            You try to be Christ-like? You’re so full of it bob it’s hard for me to believe. You think Christ is rooting for Hillary? Or is he just waiting for Hillary? You vote for anyone you choose bob but don’t try to convince me that you are unaware of the evil spirit the Democrats posses.

          8. bobnstuff says:

            Just when have I ever said I was a Hillary supporter? I am John Kasich supporter. You are the one supporting the anti Christian right wing nuts. Your guys are the ones that would let children starve and have old folks eating cat food so the rich can have a tax break. You do know that Christ said to take care of the poor, the sick and love each other. He didn’t say that you should that from the poor to give to the rich which is what your guys are trying to do.

          9. pete G says:

            Anti Christian right wing nuts? I have to admit Bob i haven’t heard that one before. Usually right wingers are accused of being gun and bible toting Christians. I know Christ said to help the poor and i am for that but he didn’t say give the poor more than the working did he? That’s what is happening in a hell of allot of cases. If they drug tested these idiots who won’t work welfare would probably drop by 50%. PS you’re going to find this hard to believe Bob but i have been a registered Democrat for over 50 years, i just woke up and decided i was sick of the lies and corruption from this narcissistic fool, unlike you.

          10. bobnstuff says:

            They have their bibles alright, KJV. They like to pick and choose what part of the bible to follow, they love the book of Deuteronomy but skim over the Book of Mathew. The don’t understand what they are reading and believe that God helps those that help themselves. They believe that you are poor because you have some kind of sin and if you are rich it’s because God favors you. They are Sunday Christians. They are everything Christ came to change.
            Don’t blame the poor for employers not paying a living wage. No one who works full time should need welfare but a very large part of the people getting it have jobs and work hard. You really need to check the real facts on welfare and drug use. A number of states have tested for drugs and spent more money on giving he test then they save. Less the 3% failed Florida’s drug tests. Most welfare is run by the states, each has their own rules and ways of doing things.
            You might find this hard to believe but I’m a registered republican and have been all my life. In fact I have been a Ward Chairman and been on my local republican committee. My local party has a lot of good people who want to build a good community. There seems to be something about the national party that make them become stupid.

          11. girls_mom says:

            You know what Bob, you’re correct about the picking and choosing, and please don’t forget the ‘verbal editing’ of quotes from the bible.The Progressives are champs at using a bible quote to underline some PC clap-trap verbiage to emphasis a point they want to lay on you.
            Here’s one of my favorites the left wing (who are trying to quash Christianity) use when needed, to try to ‘guilt folks’ to embrace “wealth distribution” they are forcing on us via Obama.
            B/t/w this is the quote from the 1917 Tanakh:

            “And the LORD said unto Cain: ‘Where is Abel thy brother?’ And he said: ‘I know not; am I my brother’s keeper?’ Cain’s reply was a question!!
            The Left-wing changes what Cain replied, as a statement, taken out of any context, but lays it on you that we, are our brother’s keeper; hence we need to shell out what is ours and make it theirs. There are so many great bible quotes that have been cut off from the complete quote as to use to their benefit of monetary gain and its dire consequences. Too bad the ‘Limousine Liberals’ are never included in their harangue against success.

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          13. pete G says:

            So you really don’t mind being lied to after all, do you bob?

          14. bobnstuff says:

            I hate lies but am smart enough to check for facts. I see a lot of people on line that will believe just about anything and never even think about what they are told. There seem to be a lot of math challenged people here. They believe that 20,000 people can round up 11 million people and deport them while watching the border. They believe that there are enough police that they could take all the guns away. My favorite lie going around is that if you if you got rid of welfare cheats you could effect the amount of money the government has to spend. People don’t check the math.

      4. pete G says:

        Hey Bob one question, did you watch the Democrat’s debate? Not one personal question, Case closed.

        1. bobnstuff says:

          Would asking about flip flopping be personal? That was the first thing they asked Hillary. The republicans were much more fun to watch.

    2. I Seigel says:

      You mean like, “What’s your favorite thing to do on a moonlit beach?”, and “What wine would you pair with a lobster flambé?”

      1. Mrs. O says:

        Now you’re being ridiculous and insulting.

      2. Wolfman says:

        Hey Sigs….who’s acting like the comic book villain now??? Haven’t lost your touch.

    3. MadInTexas says:

      Trump, playing the little dictator, oops, I mean President already!

      1. girls_mom says:

        We already have a dictator in the White House, thank you! We have experienced the horror of it, and are smart enough to never want it in another President, again.That’s why the “outsider” candidates appeal to a majority of intelligent Americans.
        The only ‘dictatorial posture’ you will see from the Donald is a iron will ( that can’t be bought by any Political party or politician), to rid this country of illegals, political corruption, the Chinese manufacturing bind that has destroyed our domestic manufacturers and the choke-hold the Left-wing Progressives have maintained on us and this country, for too long.
        That type of “Dictatorial posture” I, and more people than your little mind can imagine, are looking forward to.
        As far as ObaMao and his hideous wife are concerned, 2017 will see them somewhere else, instead of polluting our White House.
        I only wish that “somewhere else” was the Red Planet Mars – they can’t do anymore damage to this country ‘in or out’ of office it they are in space.

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